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Py Thon
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:45:00 - [6031]
 

I'll make this quick.
I'm as concerned about this "Fearless-Leak" as everyone else here (especially because I have seen what so called microtransactions did to other mmos).
I'll quit this game if Faction-Standings, Skills or anything else that gives advantage to Players for (extra)Money will be sold in this shop, this would be sad as i really love this game.
Selling sunglasses and shirts? -> so be it - that's stuff for kiddies (like ccp soundwave it seems :P) and i don't seem know many kiddies in eve.

But all this raging get's us nowhere, let's see what we have here:
This was a leak of an internal Magazine discussing pros and cons (though pros seemed to overweigh there...) and internal discussion is not actually offical and written in stone and generally considered a good thing.

At this point I don't see what's wrong with CCP Zulus Blog, but that's it already, there is also nothing right with it as he doesn't clarify about what the most are concerned about -> buying Standings, Skills and in general advantages for real Money in this shop in the future.
I would like this to addressed in the next blog (should there be one).
Also i'd like clarification on the point of having a button to switch from hangar to station view.

OCHOYTNIK
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:47:00 - [6032]
 

Those CCP company values in full:

Fearless
Deafness
Blindness
Shameless

Prove me wrong CCP, I am funting begging you.

dunnhill
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:48:00 - [6033]
 

sigh, what about CQ / people wanting ship spinning back as the cq is buggy? the dev blog didnt say much :/

Huyai Tsukurit
Caldari
Grau Foundation
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:49:00 - [6034]
 

Edited by: Huyai Tsukurit on 24/06/2011 21:49:27
although I would like to take you at your word CCP Pann that you are passing on peoples' concerns up the ladder, it seems from CCP Zulu's latest blog it seems that nobody there is listening.

Mamayev Kurgan
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:49:00 - [6035]
 

I am speechless .. I have never seen a company so dependent on community good-will act with such reckless disregard for said community.

-2 subs on top of the pile.

Eve = NGE

Oranen
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:50:00 - [6036]
 

Only CCP could throw gas on a ragin fire like this lol.

Jaak 242
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:51:00 - [6037]
 

Originally by: ariana ailith
The best thing though is... CCP won't die. Or stop. Or change.

If they ignore all this and wait for it to blow over, which it will!
A few thousand players leave. Then CCP waits till these angry threads are gone. pushed to the back. Perhaps patch some things in a good way to get some positive stuff going on.

Then suddenly on Steam EVE becomes free or time codes work for 90 days or some kind of similar promotion and 10000 new players walsch right in. Problem solved. Since they don't know the old system they like eve. And happily empty their real pockets to fill their virtual ones.

CCP grows stronger and bigger. And nobody is any the wiser.


This is irritating, but I'm afraid it really might happen. How can we make sure that it doesn't? Is there some kind of credible information source that online gamers check before they buy?

Achmebenzadream
Minmatar
Havoc Violence and Chaos
Merciless.
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:51:00 - [6038]
 

Is it just me or is this forum getting seriously laggy?

Btw I cancelled both of mu subs.

Wyatt Herb
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:52:00 - [6039]
 

Please end the CCP nosedive!



This is the worst PR disaster I've ever witnessed. I am in awe at your ineptitude.

Don't you see that your paying customers don't want what you're shoveling?

Account cancelled. Will be resumed if you guys get back on course.

Random Womble
Minmatar
Emo Rangers
Electric Monkey Overlords
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:52:00 - [6040]
 

People seem to be forgetting Zulu has a history of causing rage with deve blogs who can ever forget his first blog as Zulupark and the rage that caused mainly because he seemed totally out of touch with the player base back then.

Archer Desade
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:52:00 - [6041]
 

Just read this "Devblog".

Next thing was cancelling my Subs, with a notice to the current ****storm.

Main will run until August, I will wait what happens until then.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:53:00 - [6042]
 

dev blog did not cover the issue. community needs clarification on pay-to-win vs vanity-only store

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:53:00 - [6043]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 21:55:17
Originally by: Chogon Toil
Originally by: Miilla




I see what CCP are doing with EVE: They think EVE is an EXTENSION of REAL LIFE; and thus PRICE ITEMS AT REAL LIFE VALUES.

That's just FECKED UP.

CCP: IT IS A GAME, not REAL LIFE.






They said this at this year's FanFest. They said, very clearly, that EvE isn't a game. They said it's real. Helps you understand their mentality.





If they think that, they need their heads examined, because we play it for what it is, A GAME.

For them thinking it is REAL LIFE and thus expect items to be real life prices, THEY'RE LIVING IN A FRACKING DREAM WORLD.

Now that CCP's QUACKJOB MENTALITY is showing, I think that is a big concern of the STABILITY of their MANAGEMENT, THey obviously have no idea what a GAME IS if they think it is AN EXTENSION TO REAL LIFE.


They are the laughing stock of the industry now. Quacknutjobs at the helm.







Henrica Gaufridus
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:53:00 - [6044]
 

Originally by: Cutter Isaacson

ARE YOU GOING TO BE INTRODUCING NON-VANITY ITEMS INTO THE DAMN NEX STORE OR NOT?



Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Seriously, WHAR IS YES OR NO CCP, WARR?

Fullgaz2010
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:53:00 - [6045]
 

CCP stop this

If not i close my accounts to

Ragnoroc
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:53:00 - [6046]
 

Edited by: Ragnoroc on 24/06/2011 22:07:22
This devblog insults our intelligence!
It also reenforces my fear that MT was driven by the CEO who has already sold this to the investors as the big way forward for CPP.

Being an arrogant hard nosed w^hbanker (no one ever got to the postition he was without being that way) he will not back down for customers. We all know what bankers think of customers!

In light of this I believe the Fearless was not a discusion paper but an internal PR job by upper management to get the devs and others into line with the new corporate 'vision'.

The CPP we grew up with from the start is well and truly dead, welcome to corporate CPP and it's money grabbing investors, they don't give a sh*t about the game.

Nothing left here, time to move on!

Cpt Stratos
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:54:00 - [6047]
 

Originally by: Widowscar
hey CCP,

You know there's another sci-fi MMO where you can walk around stations and buy game changing items via microtransactions, right?

It's called Star Trek Online.

It's dying in it's infancy as a game, despite being based on probably the 2nd most popular sci-fi franchise of all time (a benefit EVE doesn't have). Learn from the mistakes made by your contemporaries at cryptic studios. Don't force us to walk around when we just want to pew. Don't offer gameplay advantages to those with a higher credit card limit than others.

"Snip"

Widow


I don't know where you get the idea that STO is bleeding customers, infact it seems like it is growing. When it first launched it was as bad as Champions Online. But it is much better than before and the cash shop is mainly some interior fluff and uniformes. And what ships you can get you can get in the game.

On topic: It seems that CCP is beating around the bush instead of coming out and saying yes or no. Thats all we want to hear. I love EVE Online, but if they add that stuff into the game then I will cancel.

Garbol Hellbrecht
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:54:00 - [6048]
 

Did CCP Zulu just called us chaep bastards and compered real life clothes to virtual ones? Just checking... Rolling Eyes

Xtasy Virpio
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:54:00 - [6049]
 

Is CCP going to prostitute game play for real life money? Is that why they went after ISK sellers and macro miners so determined? Is it they dont want any competition?

Sinker1345
ANZAC ALLIANCE
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:56:00 - [6050]
 

CCP Zulu your devblog was a travesty Get someone on these forums who can answer our concerns someone from upper management

Mr Digs
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:57:00 - [6051]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.




For once, I agree with Mittani.

If you want to put clothes on your character, play some other game.

Do you remember the time before all this incarna stuff came along. You made an avatar and stuck with it (unless you pay money to CCP to change it). Granted, this patch should of fixed what is broken in eve. It made it more broken.

But messing up Jita and Amarr. Doesn't help it just ****es people off.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:57:00 - [6052]
 

"Arnar Hrafn Gylfason.... I've heard that somewhere before.... Isn't he the guy who crashed CCPGames with a bad press release?"

DiaLogical
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:57:00 - [6053]
 

Originally by: Py Thon
But all this raging get's us nowhere, let's see what we have here:
This was a leak of an internal Magazine discussing pros and cons (though pros seemed to overweigh there...) and internal discussion is not actually offical and written in stone and generally considered a good thing.

Actually the whole newsletter was focused around one thing and one thing only, creative use of MT in all possible ways. There only was one, now infamous, pro-con piece in there. The rest clearly indicated the focus was already on implementing more gamechanging MT dynamics to increase revenue. There's not much doubt these ideas already exist on a whiteboard in a dev room and are not brought up just for the sake of argument.

Originally by: Py Thon
At this point I don't see what's wrong with CCP Zulus Blog, but that's it already, there is also nothing right with it as he doesn't clarify about what the most are concerned about -> buying Standings, Skills and in general advantages for real Money in this shop in the future.

Exactly because of not addressing the things people are concerned and worked up about it feels very insincere and doesn't show in any way that anything we're trying to convey got through to them.

Stormchyld
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:57:00 - [6054]
 

Edited by: Stormchyld on 24/06/2011 21:58:14

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:58:00 - [6055]
 


protojanahi
Minmatar
T.R.I.A.D
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [6056]
 

NO TO MT !

Los Quinton
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 - [6057]
 

Originally by: Fullgaz2010
CCP stop this

If not i close my accounts to


Laughing

Triple Entendre
Atrocity.
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [6058]
 


Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [6059]
 

Wow, just wow. It's a fascinating thing to watch a company self destruct.

I didn't think my opinion of CCP's management could go lower.

I was wrong.

I wonder how much lower they'll be able to push it?

Darod Zyree
Gallente
Zyree Holding
Posted - 2011.06.24 22:01:00 - [6060]
 



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