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Poppin' Tittays
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:03:00 - [5851]
 

Originally by: Valek Noor
196 pages in less than 24 hours just has to be a record

WE need that dev blog this is getting insane


we dont need a dev blog. we need player action. we need to find a financial way to take control of this game for ourselves.

lets figure out what it would take to make this company something the players can buy out as a group IRL

Tea Ester Elliot
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:03:00 - [5852]
 

LOL ABSOLUTE FAILURE TO DELIVER

See you all in the next space mmo.

Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:03:00 - [5853]
 

**** THIS **** I'M OUT

RU Sirius
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:03:00 - [5854]
 

Oh hai, boss. I couldn't agree more.

Originally by: Cap Tyrian
This sums it up. I feel CCP has already stolen my Subscription fees for something that can not be described as Content in any way.

Originally by: Jade Constantine
Sure when you have been playing Eve as long as we have you learn to take the rough with the smooth but you do so with the general feeling that CCP developers understand and “get” what makes Eve great – and that’s the problem now. This internal newsletter (if real) shows that one of the leading developers does not “get eve” does not care about eve, and simply sees eve as a cash cow to be milked ferociously to fund other projects. This is about keeping the golden goose of eve subscriptions (on a drip feed if necessary) while chasing and grubbing every little loose cent he can from the player base.

Let me give you a couple of examples of how this can and does (and has already) impacted our enjoyment of this game:

1. The Captains Quarters – it’s not gameplay its a display cabinet for vanity items. And the price of this display cabinet for you and I is that multi-client performance in stations is now terrible – if you have a bad graphic card it’s a jerk fest – if you have a decent graphics card it’s heat-fest. I can run 3-4 clients with CQ’s turned on – I can run it smoothly – but do I want to? Hell no because my Gtx 580 sounds like its melting my motherboard now! So I need to turn off the CQ’s on multiple accounts and as a result have more limited functionality on those accounts and an ugly wallpaper. No more station environment, no more clicking on my ship to open cargo hold, no more dragging ship to the hanger to board it. The delivery of the CQ vanity item display case has impacted my gameplay.

CCP could have made it optional and given us the option of keeping the old hanger view and added a “disembark ship” option to the UI but “oh no” to do that would have meant we weren’t being forced to look the vanity display case that marketing insisted must be front and centre if we’re to even think about buying these ridiculously overpriced items from the Noble store.

2. If you read the newsletter you’ll see reference to saved fitting slots – and I don’t know about you Verone but in JF we’ve run out of saved corp ship fittings. We want CCP to up the limit but is that really going to happen while the “biz-devs” talk honeyed words about how to squeeze extra income from players for such “minor upgrades.”? How long till we pay aurum for extra corp standing slots? For wardec options? For a usable corp management screen?

3. And who develops these vanity items? Yes thats right its Eve artists and developers whose salary we pay with our subscriptions. Given the choice wouldn’t you rather have engine trails and flashy cyno effect for all players rather than a bunch of overpriced tat in the Aur store for a fleeced few?

Because that is precisely the compromise being made here -> CCP using our subs money to pay for vanity item production they want to sell back to us for greedy prices and it is something you SHOULD get mad about.

So here’s the thing.

The time to fight for the game we love is not in six months time when these concepts have bedded down and CCP is feeling bold enough to start selling Noble Faction ammo and +9 implants. The time to fight is now. Because this newsletter embodies everything that many of us feared but didn’t want to believe CCP were becoming capable of. It is a massive betrayal of the compact we shared as players and developers of this game and indicates that CCP is preparing to leap down a very dark and deep path of self-immolation in the months to come.

I don’t want to see Eve Online die Verone. That sounds dramatic I know, but gameworlds die when the dreams and visions are extinguished and that can happen through a succession of bad ideas foisted on a community by people who really don’t have much of a clue in business.







Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:04:00 - [5855]
 

It's no fun playing in a sandbox if there's a turd buried in the sand.

Eve is a sandbox.

MTs are turds.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:04:00 - [5856]
 

Took you 2 days to write that???

---

Dear concerned citizens of New Eden

This week has seen quite a controversy unfold. In almost the same instant as we deployed Incarna - which by the way is one of our more smooth and successful expansions, not to mention absolutely gorgeous - an internal newsletter with rather controversial topics addressed leaked out. To further compound the confusion there was a clear and rather large gap in virtual goods pricing expectation and reality with a large segment of the community. I‘m going to address both these issues right here.

Fearless

Fearless is one of our company values. It‘s also the name of an internal newsletter that has been designed and developed specifically to catalyze discussions on controversial topics. One of the biggest elephants in the room these days, not just for EVE but for the gaming industry as a whole, is virtual goods sales and microtransactions.

Therefore we dedicated an entire issue to exactly that topic. It‘s worth mentioning that the topic of the issue was "Greed is good?" as a way to ask a question that would then be debated back and forth and often exaggerated purposefully to draw contrasts and make points. The result of that is now widely available on the internet.

The opinions and views expressed in Fearless are just that; opinions and views. They are not CCP policy nor are they a reliable source of CCP views as a company. The employees who submitted articles to that newsletter did exactly what they were asked to do, write about theories and opinions from an exaggerated stand.

While it‘s perfectly fine to disagree and attack CCP over policies or actions we take, we think it‘s not cool how individuals that work here have been called out and dragged through the mud due to something they wrote in the internal company newsletter. Seriously, these people were doing their jobs and do not deserve the hate and ****storm being pointed at them.

Pricing structure

People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are.

We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than what‘s in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale.

I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.

Thanks,

Arnar Hrafn Gylfason

Senior Producer of EVE Online

--

Consequence Zero
Non Affiliation
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:04:00 - [5857]
 

Adding yet another voice to the pile.

I wonder if this is another tactic to:

**Make us forget about the semi-failed bot wars?

**Put under the rug the fiasco of the off the shelf forum that they worked for a year to perfect (by removing any security)?

** I could go on and on but why bother.......

The concept of MT for Vanity items I could live with but the direction and the path that is seems to be going leaves me shaking my head.

As for the Golden Goose comment I give you this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OStX_wrWGg

fail edit: My link skills suck

Lanrick
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:04:00 - [5858]
 

Greed is good... but pitchforks and torches are better.

Gordon Hellbender
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:04:00 - [5859]
 

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=932
Quote:

People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are.



Weak excuse, imo.
Clothing or not, these items are on your character - nobody will see them until the station interaction area is open. Thus the NeX should have remained closed until that time.

It's still just pixels which add nothing to the game. Putting up a price like 15 euros for a shirt is fine in real life because it took EFFORT to make those clothes. Here it's just a few bits enabled or disabled that make up a different shape or color on your avatar.

Calling them clothes, is no excuse for the huge price at all.

Mr Plack
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:04:00 - [5860]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine
Sure when you have been playing Eve as long as we have you learn to take the rough with the smooth but you do so with the general feeling that CCP developers understand and “get” what makes Eve great – and that’s the problem now. This internal newsletter (if real) shows that one of the leading developers does not “get eve” does not care about eve, and simply sees eve as a cash cow to be milked ferociously to fund other projects. This is about keeping the golden goose of eve subscriptions (on a drip feed if necessary) while chasing and grubbing every little loose cent he can from the player base.

Let me give you a couple of examples of how this can and does (and has already) impacted our enjoyment of this game:

1. The Captains Quarters – it’s not gameplay its a display cabinet for vanity items. And the price of this display cabinet for you and I is that multi-client performance in stations is now terrible – if you have a bad graphic card it’s a jerk fest – if you have a decent graphics card it’s heat-fest. I can run 3-4 clients with CQ’s turned on – I can run it smoothly – but do I want to? Hell no because my Gtx 580 sounds like its melting my motherboard now! So I need to turn off the CQ’s on multiple accounts and as a result have more limited functionality on those accounts and an ugly wallpaper. No more station environment, no more clicking on my ship to open cargo hold, no more dragging ship to the hanger to board it. The delivery of the CQ vanity item display case has impacted my gameplay.

CCP could have made it optional and given us the option of keeping the old hanger view and added a “disembark ship” option to the UI but “oh no” to do that would have meant we weren’t being forced to look the vanity display case that marketing insisted must be front and centre if we’re to even think about buying these ridiculously overpriced items from the Noble store.

2. If you read the newsletter you’ll see reference to saved fitting slots – and I don’t know about you Verone but in JF we’ve run out of saved corp ship fittings. We want CCP to up the limit but is that really going to happen while the “biz-devs” talk honeyed words about how to squeeze extra income from players for such “minor upgrades.”? How long till we pay aurum for extra corp standing slots? For wardec options? For a usable corp management screen?

3. And who develops these vanity items? Yes thats right its Eve artists and developers whose salary we pay with our subscriptions. Given the choice wouldn’t you rather have engine trails and flashy cyno effect for all players rather than a bunch of overpriced tat in the Aur store for a fleeced few?

Because that is precisely the compromise being made here -> CCP using our subs money to pay for vanity item production they want to sell back to us for greedy prices and it is something you SHOULD get mad about.

So here’s the thing.

The time to fight for the game we love is not in six months time when these concepts have bedded down and CCP is feeling bold enough to start selling Noble Faction ammo and +9 implants. The time to fight is now. Because this newsletter embodies everything that many of us feared but didn’t want to believe CCP were becoming capable of. It is a massive betrayal of the compact we shared as players and developers of this game and indicates that CCP is preparing to leap down a very dark and deep path of self-immolation in the months to come.

I don’t want to see Eve Online die Verone. That sounds dramatic I know, but gameworlds die when the dreams and visions are extinguished and that can happen through a succession of bad ideas foisted on a community by people who really don’t have much of a clue in business.



I couldn't have said it better myself. This posts reflects my feelings of outrage very well.

Nice one.

Kerigras Darshwitz
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:05:00 - [5861]
 

all this hype reminds me of the star trek TNG episode 'drumhead'...the people posting here of course being that psycho chick who was seeing too much into everything and wanted to go on a conspiracy rampage locking people up and having heads roll.

really people, stop blowing this out of proportion..if your going to leave then do it, dont forum troll dont say your going to do it but not have the balls just go, thatll make it a better game for all of us that stay.

Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:05:00 - [5862]
 

The problem as I see it (since you are finally asking, CCP), boils down to the fact that you essentially told your customers: "We hate you."

This was then confirmed by the leaked memo, though we got the message loud and clear already (see MT and monocle). It was not so much the prices, but the F U factor.

Now before the patch, Eve worked on both of my computers. After the patch, only on 1. Don't expect people to go out and buy a new computer to play your game, I doubt very many will.

But it's in the name of progress you say. Okay, let's see. Walking in Stations - sounds cool. What's this? There's nothing I can't do just as efficiently (or more efficiently) with a mere button click in the old hangar view? No way!

Oh, I get it. You want us to playtest the engine for your future game. No problem. I've loved Eve and I'm happy to help. Why didn't you just say so? Dishonesty turns me off. Well, I tested it. It's slow and does not agree with my hardware very much, so I turned it off. Now all I can see is a door. Did I mention I liked the old hangar view better? What, you don't care? I get it.

By the way, locking the hilarious door screenshot thread was just plain wrong. You gotta keep your sense of humor in times like this.

Anywho, we've put up with bugs, incomplete features, etc. for years. We love this game and all we really want if for you to fix that stuff. Eve is supposed to be a harsh and cold universe. We get it that only about 300,000 people like harsh and cold while a million like shiny and sparkly. We don't need or want MT or WiS (at least until you can make it something fun/useful), but we don't mind helping you out if can simply be honest and communicative with us.

We put up with Plex because you couldn't (didn't want to?) stop gold sellers. We would rather see you get the money if people were going to buy gold. But now you take advantage of our goodwill. This upsets us as you (hopefully) have noticed.

In short, the players have given you the benefit of the doubt for years. I need not get into RMT, Dev assistance of certain alliances, etc. We stuck with you anyway, but there is only so much we can take. You have now exceeded that limit.

Where do we go from here? Well that's up to you. If the things that made us love Eve are gone, we will go elsewhere. There are lots of games that do shiny real well. We're not here for shiny.

Chogon Toil
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:05:00 - [5863]
 

That's our reply?
Are you f*c*king kidding me?
What a joke.

Peace. It's been fun.
o/
See you all in GW2, or Tera, or SW:TOR
or...
WoW

You're done, CCP. Done.

Needa3
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:05:00 - [5864]
 

Things that need fixing

- AUR: why do we need it when we have ISK?

- CQ: looks good but serves no purpose, where's the promised option of disabling it. BTW it has a lot of graphic bugs.

- Probes: didn't need a boost as they were overpowered already

- Unprobable ship: was the only option to counter the overpowered probes in PVP, you just took away one of the last options to diversify the pvp in EVE. The abuse by bot mission runners is just the symptom of you game designers failures. Old probing was way better and gave us, as pvp'ers, an option to fight the blob. A blob created by your designers as you clearly lack the view on how the develop the game. All eggs were put in the blob warfare basket and you started designing your game around a flawed starting point. MMO, yes. Blobbing, no. We {the players} have been telling you this for several years. Instead of changing the mechanism you only worked on graphic shiny things that never needed change anyway. You kept fixing things that were not broken. We have even offered to help you out in making pvp a better experience for smaller groups of pvp'ers. I know other alliances have offered similar assistance.

- RMT... I like how you fight it everyday yet think of doing something similar.

- Plex prices: I remember an add, a couple of days before the patch, where you CCP announced that plex prices were rising and that players should get them while they were "cheap". According to the graph prices were not rising, instead you artificially inflated the price to get more money out of it. CCP you aren't just lying, you are also scamming and cheating.

Too bad i just re subbed 2 of my characters otherwise that would have been 2 less accounts. The other 5 will be done for, for a while.

Nice job. If I was boss, a couple people would be pointed door wise.

Kewso
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:06:00 - [5865]
 

Please add more than just vanity items for AUR! And the ability to gamble with other players for AUR! Customers have spoken!


Kueijin Legion
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:06:00 - [5866]
 

Zulu

...

That's it?!

ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME?!

Aedeal
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:06:00 - [5867]
 

You missed the fundamental reason for many people's annoyance: We want assurance that no game-affecting items will EVER be added to RMT, and we want something CCP can be held to.

As far as I'm concerned, you can RMT on the character clothes as much as you want, it doesn't affect anyone ingame, it generates revenue for the EVE we love... but you loose the tag of a 'player driven economy' to me.

Regarding CQ, simply keep the option to turn it off there for a bit longer. Simple. It's a nice addition, but that's what it is right now, an addition. Maybe just go for the idea of deciding to 'get out your pod' rather than being thrown out each time you dock. Don't get me wrong, that is some seriously cool work, but EVE *is* spaceships primarily. New Eden is branching out, but EVE will (hopefully) always be the spaceships side of it.

Short story even shorter: We want assurance on RMT, and we want the *option* of using the CQ.

Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:06:00 - [5868]
 

Your last 2 years have amounted to next to no real content for eve online. Your push out awful expansions and then insult us with awful responses.

You have a few weeks left to re-earn my sub, this is not the way to do it.

Maria Holmes
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:07:00 - [5869]
 

Shocked

Is this the blog they present us...well.. i guess eve is dead soon. Time to risk **** you havent before dudes. Undock the shiny **** and lets go down in a ball of fire and glory ugh

Ragnoroc
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:07:00 - [5870]
 

So there is our reply, F off and we are going to do what we want. This blog addresses nothing. I fear that MT is the CEOs baby and he has sold this to the investors, being a hard nosed arrogant w^h^hbanker( you don't get to where he was without being that way) there is no way he is going to lose face with his precious investors, CCP as we knew and loved is dead guys, time to move on!

Arimius
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:07:00 - [5871]
 

Absolutely agree

Originally by: GARRAK
Have to agree

Originally by: Cap Tyrian
This sums it up. CCP has already stolen Subscription fees for something that can not be described as Content in any way.

Originally by: Jade Constantine
Sure when you have been playing Eve as long as we have you learn to take the rough with the smooth but you do so with the general feeling that CCP developers understand and “get” what makes Eve great – and that’s the problem now. This internal newsletter (if real) shows that one of the leading developers does not “get eve” does not care about eve, and simply sees eve as a cash cow to be milked ferociously to fund other projects. This is about keeping the golden goose of eve subscriptions (on a drip feed if necessary) while chasing and grubbing every little loose cent he can from the player base.

Let me give you a couple of examples of how this can and does (and has already) impacted our enjoyment of this game:

1. The Captains Quarters – it’s not gameplay its a display cabinet for vanity items. And the price of this display cabinet for you and I is that multi-client performance in stations is now terrible – if you have a bad graphic card it’s a jerk fest – if you have a decent graphics card it’s heat-fest. I can run 3-4 clients with CQ’s turned on – I can run it smoothly – but do I want to? Hell no because my Gtx 580 sounds like its melting my motherboard now! So I need to turn off the CQ’s on multiple accounts and as a result have more limited functionality on those accounts and an ugly wallpaper. No more station environment, no more clicking on my ship to open cargo hold, no more dragging ship to the hanger to board it. The delivery of the CQ vanity item display case has impacted my gameplay.

CCP could have made it optional and given us the option of keeping the old hanger view and added a “disembark ship” option to the UI but “oh no” to do that would have meant we weren’t being forced to look the vanity display case that marketing insisted must be front and centre if we’re to even think about buying these ridiculously overpriced items from the Noble store.

2. If you read the newsletter you’ll see reference to saved fitting slots – and I don’t know about you Verone but in JF we’ve run out of saved corp ship fittings. We want CCP to up the limit but is that really going to happen while the “biz-devs” talk honeyed words about how to squeeze extra income from players for such “minor upgrades.”? How long till we pay aurum for extra corp standing slots? For wardec options? For a usable corp management screen?

3. And who develops these vanity items? Yes thats right its Eve artists and developers whose salary we pay with our subscriptions. Given the choice wouldn’t you rather have engine trails and flashy cyno effect for all players rather than a bunch of overpriced tat in the Aur store for a fleeced few?

Because that is precisely the compromise being made here -> CCP using our subs money to pay for vanity item production they want to sell back to us for greedy prices and it is something you SHOULD get mad about.

So here’s the thing.

The time to fight for the game we love is not in six months time when these concepts have bedded down and CCP is feeling bold enough to start selling Noble Faction ammo and +9 implants. The time to fight is now. Because this newsletter embodies everything that many of us feared but didn’t want to believe CCP were becoming capable of. It is a massive betrayal of the compact we shared as players and developers of this game and indicates that CCP is preparing to leap down a very dark and deep path of self-immolation in the months to come.

I don’t want to see Eve Online die Verone. That sounds dramatic I know, but gameworlds die when the dreams and visions are extinguished and that can happen through a succession of bad ideas foisted on a community by people who really don’t have much of a clue in business.


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Havok Wren
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:07:00 - [5872]
 

What a load of **** Mad

Jaak 242
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:07:00 - [5873]
 

I apologize to all of you, but, my first canceled subscription doesn't run out until the 3rd of July. I've made an agreement to pass on my alliance and my 'stufz' to whichever of my two managers continues to play, or let it burn if neither does.

So, I'm going to continue to play, and add to my stufz as long as possible. Unfortunately, two of my subscriptions were renewed this week, so the 4th one won't expire until July 22.

Once again, I'm sorry for the apparent lack of social conscience, but an addiction is an addiction.

Thevani Khashour
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:07:00 - [5874]
 

Dear CCP.


**** OFF. Bye.

Esme Calladine
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:07:00 - [5875]
 

Brb guys, just going to buy some $1000 jeans

Urgg Boolean
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:07:00 - [5876]
 

Thanks CCP Pan for opening the door for discussion.

I'm sure the PR people at CCP have heard of the 5::1 Rule. It usually applies to marriage, as in the linked article, but it can be applied generally to any relationship. Ignoring this rule kills marriages. "Working on a relationship" can, many times, mean satisfying this rule.

So my question is what 5 good things is CCP going to do to satisfy the 5::1 Rule? Cuz according to this very real rule, the marriage is about to break up.

My biggest concern is the fantastically poor performance and mechanics of the CQs that have been repeatedly stated already.

If I thought MT would result in an improved game environment, I'd vote for it. But it seems it is intended to be a blatant abuse of paying customers. In a very real way, I would vote for F2P in which we would have to pay for expansions. In this way, CCP would learn very quickly that we would NOT pay for content we do not want, and Incarna in it's current state would be a epic flop - nobody would pay for it. As it is now, CCP chooses how to spend our money. The profits from MT would be no different. And since CCP can't keep the alleged 350K subs happy, what makes them think they can satisfy a broader audience? Think about how well the proposed new player base for Dust or WoD will tolerate CCP's typically massively buggy patches. They will not.

Back to my original question: What are the 5 good things CCP will do to satisfy the 5::1 Rule ? At this point is seems like the good things needed are some multiple of 5...

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:08:00 - [5877]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 21:13:17

"I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog."



Uhh no? YOU TOTALLY EVADED THE ISSUE.

This says one thing.. CLEARLY

CCP has a plan, they are executing on it, doesn't matter how far customers flex a little. CCP doesn't care, it is their time table and their demise.

No sense in fighting what is already comming, let em screw it up, it's just a game for us, it is a job for them, which is now at greater risk, we have no risk to take. Let em screw themselves.



Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:08:00 - [5878]
 

copied from the nothing blog of ccp:


what a waste of ****ing time. you spent 5 days on that

you ****ing ******s

CQ has broken the game experiance for many of your players and nothing for you about that?

you lied about MT giving peopel real game advantages and you dress that up like its nothing?

quote 'This week has seen quite a controversy unfold. In almost the same instant as we deployed Incarna - which by the way is one of our more smooth and successful expansions'

are you that blind you can not see how peopel feel about this expansion your calling it successful?

FU CCP, FU

Rodrom Caldera
Gallente
Don't look at me
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:08:00 - [5879]
 

Please Dont implement game enhancing MTs, This is Not good for the future of eve-online.


Spr09
Posted - 2011.06.24 21:08:00 - [5880]
 

this was the 1 game i pay a monthly subscription for, isn't 75-100k people giving $15 a month not good enough for you?! do the math! 100,000*15 is 1.5 MILLION a month, and over a year that becomes $18 million a year! Stop becoming money hogs and deal with the huge amounts of money you greedy SOBs already have!


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