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oldmanst4r
Minmatar
oldmanst4r's Corporation
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:29:00 - [5701]
 

screw you and your apology ccp.

Carmine Lady
Amarr
Sinners.
Yarr Collective
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:29:00 - [5702]
 

Originally by: CCP Manifest

CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.




And I will call itbeing full of now:

BULL****ING ****.


GekoIQ
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:29:00 - [5703]
 

Posting in Threadnarok.

Will cancel both subs if MT are used to purchase non-vanity items.

Greavus
Minmatar
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:29:00 - [5704]
 

OK Everyone its time...

I NEVER read forums usually but the current situation has forced me to read and hell forfend post.

ok the good bit...
the station stuff finally in motion ..exelent (needs a window tho to live space outside the stn)

The new fittings and icons good ...

there are many good things you have done that have been exeptional...

BUT...

I AM NOT AMUSED...i have played this game, i have paid for this game,
I have had 3 oclock in the morning phonecalls for this game. and i am not alone...

every player has bled for the enjoyment of this game ...and yes its a game....not real life ...its our escape from this mad world.

I have played personally for many years...and loved it ...I have enjoyed some of the changes CCP have made and equally been vexed at the nerfing of ships the blatent disregard for the rules regarding devs and toons ..but i lived with it ...I forgave you CCP...

NO MORE I TELL YOU!!!!!

The leaked memmo and the latest nerfs are BAD

You messed with Jumpbridges. just as we thought you were going to tweak them to be better..(Making them work on standing and a password would be good by the way).

Giving with one hand and taking with the other whilst slapping us in the face in the process.

Stopping jumpdrive ships from using the bridges was BAD

Reducing the Jump bridge to 1 per system was BAD

Regarding the leaked newsletter

Treating us like your piggy banks is BAD

This AUR is also a BAD idea..all it will do is devalue isk..
this will lead to the destruction of the eve economy..and in the end the destruction of the game...(JUST DO IT WITH ISK)and charge much less than your planning as its rediculous.

Destruction of EVE-ONLINE is BAD if you have forgoten.

CCP, eve is what put you on the map. Why do you now treat it so badly. Go to your board room ..have a long long rethink about this before its too late.. Dont kill eve.
Dont destroy an international community that has formed.
The friendships and brotherhood that has formed shows that the human race can work together. Why didnt you ask us the players what we wanted?..we play we pay and if we enjoy it we get our friends to play and they get their friends to play. This is your bread and butter...

The past coupple of years i have been asked if eve is a good game..I can no longer recomed your game as the best game because I feel that it is gradually getting worse..even with the good bits(they dont last). My belife in CCP is almost gone. The other issues brought up by my fellow pilots need not be repeated again.

I hope that you really listen to the players. we are the ones that will be getting our friends to play eve and dusk with us too. you have an opetunity to expand eve in a way that will blow every other game out of this world.

I dont want to have to play a new game ...

Why should i pay this game anymore CCP?

Please forgive the bad spelling grammer ..between my annoyance and dyslexia it ait pretty

Turbo Nurpo
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:29:00 - [5705]
 

Problems in eve, by me:

- prototype cloak keeping ratting bots safe
- lvl4 missions in highsec keeping mission bots safe
- logoffski keeping all bots under threat safe
- local chat not being delayed keeping bots safe

Solutions:

- more interactive, non-bottable content like incursions
- remove lvl4 missions in highsec in favor of higher reward lowsec lvl4 missions.
- prolonged time of exposure after emergency warp and before disappearing from logoff
- delayed local chat outside highsec like in wormholes. It's awesome.

In general, anything that promotes leaving highsec and spreading out players around the universe.

If you like this, please spread the word.

50freefly
Caldari
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:30:00 - [5706]
 

I personally think we should just revert back to summer 2007 eve. That includes a full rollback, meaning a deletion of all accounts created after that date.

Kristina Vanszar
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:30:00 - [5707]
 

Originally by: CCP Manifest

CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.



Thanks Manifest,
so and soemone shall say protests are useless....

Alar Tangor
Caldari
Decadence.
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:30:00 - [5708]
 

Originally by: CCP Manifest

CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.



The blog in a nutshell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeP6CpUnfc0

Aganola
Amarr
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
HUN Reloaded
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:31:00 - [5709]
 

Edited by: Aganola on 24/06/2011 20:32:12
This thread is awesome!

Every time I press F5, tere is a new page waiting for me...

Also people should take a look on this:

CCP review by the employees
tl;dr: in one word: auch! :(ughShocked


Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:31:00 - [5710]
 

Originally by: Mater Dolorosa

"We need to milk them 9 more months to get enough cash to finish Dust & WoD. Be brave guys, in 2013 Eve will be a f2p and we'll get rid of them..."



This just sums up their position so well.

I really can't see what they can say.

Anon Forumalt6858
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:31:00 - [5711]
 

Edited by: Anon Forumalt6858 on 24/06/2011 20:32:48
Originally by: CCP Manifest

CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.



Oh dear god...the app licensing guy? Seriously?

How about you go back and get us someone important enough to earn our attention and at least has a shot at earning a little confidence(if that is at all possible at this point)? I don't know...maybe a red headed dude named Hilmar?

edit: typo

Olleybear
Minmatar
I R' Carebear
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:31:00 - [5712]
 

Wait... CCP banned Liang Nuren for a free Helicity pic? Are you guys serious?

I'm flabbergasted, dismayed, sad faced panda, and I'm scratching my head going...

w...t...f...

Who's next? Akita T?, Tippia? Chribba? Garmon? Maybe that cute young lady Mintchiplol?

CCP, in case you don't realize, you are treating you customers like a tyrant treats their subjects and how a fortune 500 company treats their own employees. Which is to say, pretty badly.

You know what? People need a place to live and a way feed themselves. It's not easy to move and start over. This gives the tyrant/employer power over their subjects/employees. The difference between a tyrants/companies relationship with their subjects/employees and your relationship with your customer base is this. Your customer base can leave at anytime and can still live and feed themselves just fine. The only thing Eve provides is entertainment.

The bannings that are going on for linking documents that apparently anyone in a tour group at CCP headquarters can pick up and read, the bannings over a simple picture posted by Liang smells like a power tripping management team who cant take being told they screwed up even though they like pointing out where someone else screws up through a ban. Smells exactly like management where I work.

I'm tired, I'm grumpy, I still care about Eve, and I think I might just be... done... sigh.

In the words of CYVOK, ex-leader of the ASCN alliance, to a friend of mine when talking about Eve a few years ago, "Your still playing that game? lol"

/me dies a little inside...

Tea Ester Elliot
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:31:00 - [5713]
 

Originally by: T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


****ing brilliant! Laughing

Zverofaust
Gallente
Ascetic Virtues
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:31:00 - [5714]
 

I've fought it, but after carefully reading the Fearless newsletter and hearing a compelling "history" of SWG's NGE fiasco, I'll say it too: Lower NeX prices, GUARANTEE vanity items only, and get the rest of WiS rolling ASAP or I'll find myself somewhere else to play. :(

Taja Jolina
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:31:00 - [5715]
 

It is so simple - stop the payment - close the accounts. This is the kind of message - EVERY COMPANY! - will understand directly.

And than they will react as fast as they can!

Magos Angstbringer
Minmatar
Pandorum Research Incorporated
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:31:00 - [5716]
 

WTT MONOCLE FOR MY KIDNEY.

Elondris Singh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:32:00 - [5717]
 

Originally by: Magos Angstbringer
WTT MONOCLE FOR MY KIDNEY.


Not enough. I require your liver and pancreas as well.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:33:00 - [5718]
 

Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 20:33:16
Originally by: Zverofaust
I've fought it, but after carefully reading the Fearless newsletter and hearing a compelling "history" of SWG's NGE fiasco, I'll say it too: Lower NeX prices, GUARANTEE vanity items only, and get the rest of WiS rolling ASAP or I'll find myself somewhere else to play. :(


Saw coming across through the day, was near painful to watch.

Wanna find a FW private server? lol

edit: oh **** that sounds as gay as eveonline

Erichan
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:33:00 - [5719]
 

and it better not start with "I know that the price of monocles has been the top issue in the Nex store...."

Raivi
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:33:00 - [5720]
 

Edited by: Raivi on 24/06/2011 20:33:57
Looking forward to Zulu's blog, but unless it is followed by concrete action it won't help.
What CCP needs to do is start rebuilding trust, and you can't do that with words alone.

I'm also really hoping that in the time we've been waiting CCP has been consulting with the CSM. If not then I have little hope for things improving today.

bear1990
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:33:00 - [5721]
 

Say no to MT

Morgan Polaris
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:34:00 - [5722]
 

At this point, most people (2100+) have had their say. I can draw but one conclusion:

Get rid of AUR. Roll back Incarna and finish it. Get some real people on there, hire them if you have to.

Sounds drastic? If you decide to continue this little sideshow, I can safely say we'll show you drastic. Second book of the bible drastic.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:34:00 - [5723]
 



Start ganking HAULERS in hubs during the Protests


larry hotter bigpants
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:34:00 - [5724]
 

Originally by: Miilla



Start ganking HAULERS in hubs during the Protests




why, its fun

Roonia
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:35:00 - [5725]
 

CCP...an apology will not do im afraid. You need to take action and not just the NEX prices. You just spend I dont know how many months, years to come up with this Incarna as a ploy to basically treat players as cash cows. Instead focusing on game quality, and replay value you chose to do this?!!

NO CCP, Apology will not do. Fix it and whoever has been pushing for this, fire him/her.

We, the players are CCP's life line and we why you have a job. We can go on without CCP just fine, you will not without us.

Make the game for the players not for CCP revenue. The revenue will come if you have more and more players. This should be your golden rule.

Raster Fain
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:35:00 - [5726]
 

Well, i was going to say this last patch was full of promise hype and all that.... but it left me with nothing but anger and an empty feeling inside. 5 YEARS i've played this game from Red Moon to now and i've had fun, good times, bad times and now i'm left staring at a door in a station.

I ask myself is this what it was meant to lead to? So many dreams of possibilities and now it might as well be ashes in the wind......

Right onto the bits that make me rage:

1a) The CPU hog that's CQ needs taking out behind the back of the chemical shed and shooting. If you can't do it right why bother?

1b) The drag and drop ship in the screen to change ships... it's GONE!!! WHY WHY WHY?????

1c) The DOOR!! I want to opt out and here was me thinking you'd leave me something to look at... maybe a static picture of the ship i'm in from the info?.... maybe the old hanger?.... maybe even a little porthole on the wall with ship picture from fittings?.... erm no you leave me a wall and a DOOR!!! Not even a nice door at that.

2) The oh so "micro" transactions, i can get a REAL SHIRT for less than one in Eve. I mean what the ****? How is that making sense for even a "VANITY?" transaction? I once considered maybe getting something from the vanity shop before i saw hose prices. BUT IT WILL BE A COLD DAY IN HELL BEFORE I USE IT NOW!

3) That internal letter...... erm yes I wrote about that 3 times but i had so many "*" in it that i figure it best to just say "i'm very angry and not at all happy with you"

Oh and yes i cancelled all 5 of my subscriptions, they still have time on them..... The first runs out in 3 months so if you want me to extend after that you better have done some good work or else that's it no more money from me.

Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr
Iure Divino
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:36:00 - [5727]
 

Originally by: Aganola
Edited by: Aganola on 24/06/2011 20:32:12
This thread is awesome!

Every time I press F5, tere is a new page waiting for me...

Also people should take a look on this:

CCP review by the employees
tl;dr: in one word: auch! :(ughShocked




Quote:
Fun game play is not a priority, promises made to investors and aesthetics are. ‘If it looks good then it is good’ is an often heard motto. CCP is committed to use technology in EVE as well as WoD and DUST, so certain features are made and used in EVE knowing they will not be fun, nor fit EVE and no one expects them to be appreciated by the playerbase. Alienating the playerbase of EVE further. Objections from employees who point this out are waved away.


Well then. All very nicely spelled out for us. Cool

Luc deLobo
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:36:00 - [5728]
 

Wait...WHAT? Zu...
Will it sound like the "New Dev Blog: Dev Track Feedback: Monetizing Your Apps and Services" excuses?

We will see...


Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:36:00 - [5729]
 

Originally by: 50freefly
I personally think we should just revert back to summer 2007 eve. That includes a full rollback, meaning a deletion of all accounts created after that date.


/me looks at "born on" date...

\Very Happy/ I make the cut!

Riicca
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:36:00 - [5730]
 

Originally by: Roonia
CCP...an apology will not do im afraid. You need to take action and not just the NEX prices. You just spend I dont know how many months, years to come up with this Incarna as a ploy to basically treat players as cash cows. Instead focusing on game quality, and replay value you chose to do this?!!

NO CCP, Apology will not do. Fix it and whoever has been pushing for this, fire him/her.

We, the players are CCP's life line and we why you have a job. We can go on without CCP just fine, you will not without us.

Make the game for the players not for CCP revenue. The revenue will come if you have more and more players. This should be your golden rule.


^^


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