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Tea Ester Elliot
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:17:00 - [5641]
 

Originally by: Isis Soryu
Quote:
CCP Fallout
Arnar's blog should be ready and published in about an hour, but that is an estimate.
51 seconds ago


Why we aren't hearing from Hilmar him ****ing self is beyond me.


CBA to post during minor forum upsets, tbh. Wink

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:17:00 - [5642]
 

Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 20:17:57
Originally by: Tea Ester Elliot

I think the problem is the opposite. The WRONG things are being done faster than the community can protest them. Thus we have a huge pile of issues that we simply HATE because CCP refuesed to hear that before and change course. I doubt even the internal affairs bunch could have an air of non-bias at this juncture without endangering their position in the company. No, this needs to be a direct conversation between the players and devs/managment/decision makers. They need to see once and for all that this direction will lead to a mass exodus from EVE and that does not bode well for their present or future endeavours as a company.

Only a dramatic re-alignment of priorities from on-high can save the game. We don't need a new patch tomorrow, but we do need to know the next patch will be something the players want instead of another batch of the same.


They know that already.

Only problem is we foundout way too soon.

Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:17:00 - [5643]
 

Just recieved a sms from my friend/corpie. He's playing Eve since 2006 with several accounts.

"All CCP needs is a cleansweep operation to kick all biz-devs. 100 real developers are enough for Eve"

TK Stalk
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:17:00 - [5644]
 

Meh......least the maller looks sexy!

Sandar Orontur
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:18:00 - [5645]
 

One more reaosn for being upset: The way the Mac client has been treated in the Incarna release (actually not only there...). Read the forum yourself to get the details, but in short:

  • several bugs in release which were reported weeks before on SiSi means either they were ignored or no one takes SiSi feedback into account

  • a silent change in the minimum requirements for this software through adopting shader model 3.0 although Mac drivers for some GFX cards don't support SM3.0 although the card itself does.
    It wasn't communicated before and people were left out in the dark on release day once they out that now they can either buy a new Mac or quit playing Eve

  • various problems with patch not working, forced to install full client, etc. and over several hours after opening TQ: no reply from CCP what to do, what works, what not

Muchos Besitos
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:18:00 - [5646]
 

I hate to be Mrs. Obvious, but the direction of Incarna has been trending to this point for quite a few years now. Why? Well... because people DO abuse the legalities and DO buy/sell items outside of Eve for real cash. Hoards of macroers are strangly untouched and left to wreak havoc on the game's integrity... all to pocket MORE cash into CCP's wallet as they turn a blind eye.

CCP is in fact nothing more than a drug lord pushing their crack on the streets to those already addicted. I hate to say it, but Eve is the latest scam to hit the internet.

The bottom line is that CCP has lost it's way... a long time ago. Many of you were too blind to see that, because of the crack they kept feeding you.

Seurimas
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:19:00 - [5647]
 

As a player of another MT-heavy game, I'd like to share an observation:

They don't seem to think it's a slippery slope if they just saunter confidently downwards.

That is all.

Leshnikotroshachkata
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:19:00 - [5648]
 

Originally by: Isis Soryu
Quote:
CCP Fallout
Arnar's blog should be ready and published in about an hour, but that is an estimate.
51 seconds ago


Why we aren't hearing from Hilmar him ****ing self is beyond me.

So that if CCP Zulu ****s up, Hilmar can still play the "misunderstanding" card.


Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:19:00 - [5649]
 

Originally by: Sandar Orontur
One more reaosn for being upset: The way the Mac client has been treated in the Incarna release (actually not only there...). Read the forum yourself to get the details, but in short:

  • several bugs in release which were reported weeks before on SiSi means either they were ignored or no one takes SiSi feedback into account

  • a silent change in the minimum requirements for this software through adopting shader model 3.0 although Mac drivers for some GFX cards don't support SM3.0 although the card itself does.
    It wasn't communicated before and people were left out in the dark on release day once they out that now they can either buy a new Mac or quit playing Eve

  • various problems with patch not working, forced to install full client, etc. and over several hours after opening TQ: no reply from CCP what to do, what works, what not



Actually, the SM3.0 change wasn't silent.

IT has been talked about for ages before the Incarna release.

Shoot2kilI
Caldari
Unchained Potential
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:19:00 - [5650]
 

I've said my piece on several other threads. MT has absolutely no place in this game. The current business model does work for games like LOTRO, and while it caters to a select group, the Eve demographic is NOT that group. This game is unique in the aspect of who it attracts. Never before have I seen so many people unite/back each other in god awful internet spaceships, and if I'M seeing this, I can only imagine what it is that is going through your minds. Divert from the course. If Dust legitimately is going to swivel around MT (Which I now understand why it was planned for PS3 rather than xbox) you might as well plan as little integration as possible with the current eve universe. MT will kill eve. We're freaking out about vanity items and a leak of an in-office memo. Do you honestly think that we will keep paying your subscription fee's / MT prices when you offer tangible items for this game that affect gameplay? We won't. I have six accounts, and due to the apology/confirmation, I've cancelled three of them. $45/month you won't be getting from me ever again.

Meatay
Night Theifs
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:19:00 - [5651]
 

Originally by: Zanziba'ar
I don't see what peoples problem is. Who cares if CCP haven't told us everything They have made an amazing game Get over it.


you must be new here

CCP Manifest


C C P
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:19:00 - [5652]
 


CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.

General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:20:00 - [5653]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
CCP HOW COULD YOU

ASKING ME TO PAY FOR A MONOCLE IS JUST THE SAME AS MURDERING MY MOTHER AND LEAVING HER SEVERED HEAD IN MY BED. IT'S THAT BAD.

AND I AM GOING TO RAGE ABOUT IT ON THE FORUMS BECAUSE IT REALLY REALLY REALLY IS VERY IMPORTANT.


Step away, please, BD. This is MY trolling thread. You can have the other one.

Ven'Nochthos
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:20:00 - [5654]
 

People should see jita / amarr right now. I gotta say I'm proud of this community.

Draconus Lofwyr
Gallente
CryoTech Engineering
Omega Vector
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:20:00 - [5655]
 


pushdogg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:20:00 - [5656]
 

been playing since 2006, took an 18 month break and return to this.....im a little disappointed. even though i havent un-subbed yet, i plan too if things arent altered in many respects......especially me being able to get past the customization screen.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:20:00 - [5657]
 

Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks
Just recieved a sms from my friend/corpie. He's playing Eve since 2006 with several accounts.

"All CCP needs is a cleansweep operation to kick all biz-devs. 100 real developers are enough for Eve"


Yup, clear out everything, management included.

Then just throw some devs with passion at it and tell them "Your job is to keep the cow alive so me and my family can eat.".
i.e. Maintain the service for the customer.

Investors are trouble...

Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:21:00 - [5658]
 

Originally by: Tea Ester Elliot
Originally by: Isis Soryu
Quote:
CCP Fallout
Arnar's blog should be ready and published in about an hour, but that is an estimate.
51 seconds ago


Why we aren't hearing from Hilmar him ****ing self is beyond me.


CBA to post during minor forum upsets, tbh. Wink
Well until he can be bothered to address his customers, I can't be bothered to give any credence to his spinblog doctor Zulu or bothered to pay his fat ass salary with anymore of my cash.

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:21:00 - [5659]
 

Originally by: Leshnikotroshachkata
So that if CCP Zulu ****s up, Hilmar can still play the "misunderstanding" card.

No, that's whay they dragged out Pann for already.

Nin Kimrov
Minmatar
Kenzi Arms and Munitions
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:21:00 - [5660]
 

Like if a dev thread could resolve anything...

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:21:00 - [5661]
 

Originally by: pushdogg
been playing since 2006, took an 18 month break and return to this.....im a little disappointed. even though i havent un-subbed yet, i plan too if things arent altered in many respects......especially me being able to get past the customization screen.


Now you can BUY those 18 month's worth of SP back! Isn't that wonderful!!

Welcome to the new Entropia Eve.

Where you don't just get EVEN, you BUY IT!

Sinker1345
ANZAC ALLIANCE
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:22:00 - [5662]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Leshnikotroshachkata
So that if CCP Zulu ****s up, Hilmar can still play the "misunderstanding" card.

No, that's whay they dragged out Pann for already.


they can say what they want, I went from a loyal fanboy to being on the verge of cancelling they have to SHOW me they want to change

Lynx Amurie
Caldari
CRUX CORPORATE ARMADA
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:23:00 - [5663]
 

Edited by: Lynx Amurie on 24/06/2011 20:23:10
Originally by: CCP Manifest

CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.



GOOD.

but first lets get this threadnarok to 200 pages :D

Rixiu
The Inuits
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:23:00 - [5664]
 

Originally by: CCP Manifest

CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.



Better brace yourself ;)

Amber Villaneous
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:23:00 - [5665]
 

Originally by: CCP Manifest

CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.



No new comment thread required, we like this one.

Skrypt
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:23:00 - [5666]
 

Originally by: CCP Pann
That's really all I can say about it. I am not a game designer. I'm a mouthpiece. I'll admit it. By the time I get involved, the decisions have been made. Not making excuses for myself, just explaining.

Quit your job. That's not how public relations works. I understand that you need a paycheck, but you damage the credibility of an entire profession by claiming to practice something that you clearly do not. Two-way, transparent communication is the backbone to any legitimate communications strategy.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:23:00 - [5667]
 

Originally by: Isis Soryu
Quote:
CCP Fallout
Arnar's blog should be ready and published in about an hour, but that is an estimate.
51 seconds ago


Why we aren't hearing from Hilmar him ****ing self is beyond me.


Not Hilmar? WTF?!? They are still that far behind on where they are at?

Tarix Loken
Amarr
Pandorum Research Incorporated
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:23:00 - [5668]
 

Originally by: CCP Manifest

CCP Zulu will be finishing and publishing his dev blog in around an hour, but less.
We will start a comment thread, as always.



ugh

FIliphys
Organization of Unallied Capsuleers
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:23:00 - [5669]
 

Edited by: FIliphys on 24/06/2011 20:23:57
At the risk of sounding trivial, what label can we add to this thread that is more than EPIC? We've hit 200 pages now, so a new description seems appropriate.

Sry, 190. I'm getting ahead of myself. Embarassed

Amarrian Soul
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:23:00 - [5670]
 

Originally by: Zanziba'ar
I don't see what peoples problem is. Who cares if CCP haven't told us everything They have made an amazing game Get over it.


WTF are you doing here....go macro mining!!!


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