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Merasa Tro
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:01:00 - [5581]
 

For whatever it might be worth, my 2pence worth..

We the Eve players are a 'different' sort to other MMO/FPS gamers. We like the long game, we like the economy, we like the mystery and intrigue.
For us, buying success just isn't right.

Playing Eve is risk v reward, buying something shiny to make you win is NOT what we like or want.

I suspect someone at CCP has seen the FPS culture while working on Dust514 and got excited at the potential of DLC.
An FPS game is designed for immediate reward and thrill. Jump in, shoot, die, respawn, bigger gun, repeat.

This is NOT Eve.

Non Vanity items for MT is NOT what Eve is about.

Unfortunatly your timing of this was catastrophically bad.

A buggy patch on its own is nothing new.
Content we dont like is nothing new.
PR fail is nothing new.

But you've combined all of these into one almighty disaster.

You 'seriously' need to address these:

1) A commitment to resolve/improve/redesign the CQ technologies (optional seems to be the best way)
2) A commitment to not ever release performance enhancing MT items.
3) Restore your communities faith in you.

The fact this threadnaught continues is just proof that we the Eve players WANT to be here, we want to pay you reasonable subs for reasonable content.

It's because we care.

Grimster
Reikoku
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:01:00 - [5582]
 

Damn near 8 years playing this game.

Nice to know we're just seen as cash-cows for the CCP machine.

Screw it, I'm outa here.


Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:01:00 - [5583]
 



Eve Customers will flex a little, they have, they accepted vanity items in the NEX store, they accepted the PLEX, but game changing MT items, they won't budge on most likely. CCP has a plan, they are executing on it, doesn't matter how far customers flex a little. CCP doesn't care, it is their time table and their demise.

No sense in fighting what is already comming, let em screw it up, it's just a game for us, it is a job for them, which is now at greater risk, we have no risk to take. Let em screw themselves.

I have no problem with this at all, really, I have 110 days remaining, I just hope CCP don't go bankrupt between now and 110 days time, after that, I don't care if they get layoffs. Not my problem really.


I plan to have fun all the way out, if that fun means laughing at CCP and their employees, Fine by me, Just another form of fun.

No sense in being miserable over it, it's not worth it, and neither are CCP.


When the rats trolls leave the game, that is a time to worry, really, it is.






TODO:

1) Play Eve
1.5) Post in threadnaught
2) Watch CCP's demise - IN PROGRESS
3) Watch real train wreck to compare with item 2)
4) If no train wreck available, watch a sinking ship to compare with item 2)



General Xenophon
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:01:00 - [5584]
 

They can't hear us because their building is made of this new cloaking device which blocks sound - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13905573

Raz Xym
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:02:00 - [5585]
 

over 1/2 a million views and getting close to 200 pages with no official response. They are polishing this turd so much they better put sun glasses in the vanity shop once it hits the light of day

YouShouldntEatIt
Caldari
Interstellar Waste Management Committee
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:02:00 - [5586]
 

Cant Ceep Promises

quite cute kinda
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:02:00 - [5587]
 

does a thread with over haf a milllion views get given a special name? Maybe like ZOMGBIGTHREADNAOW?

Enuen Ravenseye
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:02:00 - [5588]
 

Originally by: Cailais
According to the latest rumour Ive just heard its worse. Much worse.


YOU CAN'T DO THAT, DAMMIT! Details, man, details.

Traderjohn
Caldari
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:03:00 - [5589]
 

T'Amber did not overreact. This whole situation is rediculious. This matter should be reviewed by CCP Internal Affairs. To try and give a none bias opinion. Clearly so many of the playerbase are not happy with this with events, it needed something to bring alot of these to a boiling point before it exploded.
Just a few of the issues which members have commented on, RMT, AT9, Incarna. Things are not being done fast enough to satisfy the player community. So again I strongly surgest things start to change. Or really its the playerbase which will just move to another game.

TJ

P.S <3 T'Amber :)

Tea Ester Elliot
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:03:00 - [5590]
 

Originally by: Aineko Macx
More fuel to the fire:
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CCP-Games-Reviews-E159347.htm


OH my my my.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:03:00 - [5591]
 

Originally by: Garreth Vlox

....them banning ppl in local isnt making them any friends either, kinda like macing a crowd all it does is **** them off.



That's what makes it so good to watch!

Big Business1
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:04:00 - [5592]
 

Originally by: Miilla


Eve Customers will flex a little, they have, they accepted vanity items in the NEX store, they accepted the PLEX, but game changing MT items, they won't budge on most likely. CCP has a plan, they are executing on it, doesn't matter how far customers flex a little. CCP doesn't care, it is their time table and their demise.

No sense in fighting what is already comming, let em screw it up, it's just a game for us, it is a job for them, which is now at greater risk, we have no risk to take. Let em screw themselves.

I have no problem with this at all, really, I have 110 days remaining, I just hope CCP don't go bankrupt between now and 110 days time, after that, I don't care if they get layoffs. Not my problem really.


I plan to have fun all the way out, if that fun means laughing at CCP and their employees, Fine by me, Just another form of fun.

No sense in being miserable over it, it's not worth it, and neither are CCP.


When the rats trolls leave the game, that is a time to worry, really, it is.






TODO:

1) Play Eve
1.5) Post in threadnaught
2) Watch CCP's demise - IN PROGRESS
3) Watch real train wreck to compare with item 2)
4) If no train wreck available, watch a sinking ship to compare with item 2)





tbh.. I fully agree i wouldnt extend my subscription either... But I'm happy to see you leave, only spamming the forum with your useless ****.

Snake Johnson
Gallente
JOVE INC
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:04:00 - [5593]
 

Originally by: Reed Tiburon
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Originally by: cerbus
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


Now I see why you left the CSM in protest, T'amber. I thought you were overreacting and silly but it all makes sense now.

Quoted because it's sad but true. Sad


R.I.P. EVE

Sol Kal'orr
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:04:00 - [5594]
 

CCP killed EVE and Columbo!

Solstice Project
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:05:00 - [5595]
 


There seems to be a protest in amarr too.

sorry if that's written down already, it's hard to follow.

any news on where protests are ?

dodixie ?

altnumber6
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:05:00 - [5596]
 

Originally by: Myra2007
Still nothing?

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!


band wagon time

Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:05:00 - [5597]
 

Apology? Seriously CCP? That's it? You want to "apologize" and ask for a "parley"?

The PARLEY was when the entire community and the CSM told you devs you were going where we DIDN'T want you to go with MT in game AT ALL!!!!

The PARLEY was when game changing MT were ruled UNANIMOUSLY COMPLETELY out by the community and the CSM, and yet the memo PROVES you COMPLETELY IGNORED US and they are VERY much alive!!!

The PARLEY was when you gave us ALL the middle finger and did ALL of this anyway!!!

And now that it is hitting you where it REALLY hurts, when it is costing you the ONLY thing you give a damn about, THE MONEY, NOW you wanna TALK?!?!???
NOW you wanna listen!?!?

Well. I got two words for you. One begins with "F" and the other begins with "Y". You guess which ones I mean.

Your so called apology rings as hollow as the literally THOUSANDS of times this 8 year veteran has heard you say "We apologize for the inconvenience" every time we have unscheduled DT or you run MORE than 50% over planned time with scheduled DT. You don't give a DAMN about us, that much is ABUNDANTLY clear!! Your apologies are as meaningless as you pretending not to be the greedy bastards you have turned into.

Guess what CCP?!? You are NOT gods!! You are NOT the Alpha and the Omega!! And it looks like the only place you are going to finally figure that out is in the unemployment line!!

Sick and disgusted with your behavior and abuse of the community dose not even BEGIN to describe where I am at with the atrocity that is Incarna.

I better stop.... my blood pressure can't take this..... and YES, this is AFTER I have had a few days to calm down.

/out

Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:05:00 - [5598]
 

Edited by: Cap Tyrian on 24/06/2011 22:11:48
I know ccp wants to invest in their microtransactions but there are so many things that ccp "wanted" to do until the community crucified some people.
CCP is just wasting time making us upset. And it has never been of this proportion.

I don't even like vanity items to be priced, I know that the poker table will be a vanity item, and a bar and all interior is , yup, "vanity items".

We know exactly what will happen, they won't be able to go full ****** and will stick to vanity items at first. vanity items like poker tables and bar subscription and basically anything that will be develop from now onwards, I Do Not want to support the construction of MT Items with my subscription

Cham Palaung
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:06:00 - [5599]
 

CCP has lost my trust twice these last days : First, of course, because of what is written in the internal memo, and i really thank the courageous persons who have given us that document with all my heart. Really, whoever you are, thank you, that's the only way we have left to fight these marketing sharks.
But CCP has also lost my trust in another way : technically.
Yes they are good at making EVE, the spaceship game. I know they have the talent to make it good (if not the will anymore). But as for Incarna... i see now the result of all these years of "work"... and it sucks seriously : not even able to give us ONE room with ONE character in it which is optimized, and which has a good ergonomy... and they want to make a full station, with dozens of npcs and players ?
Sorry, i don't think anymore that they have the competence to carry this project. I have played a big amount of mmos since 12 years, and none have proven so bad as Incarna technically, even the worse ones were at least able to deliver the most basic things, such as a large place with many characters in it. most had emotes, special movements, etc...
No really, so many years for that result... All what comes to my mind is : they made that just to force their f***ing ingame shop on us, they have no clue how to make a good Incarna, and they f***ing don't care. All what they want is to sell us their monocles, before to sell us all what will come out of their short-sighted marketing brain to try to milk us more and more.
CCP doesn't give a damn anymore about EVE nor us.
The only way they could earn a bit of trust back would be a complete change of direction and behavior toward us, and that won't happen, i'm not naive.
Well done CCP for selling your soul and dirtying EVE.

Major Failsauce
Caldari
Covert Operations Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:06:00 - [5600]
 

Edited by: Major Failsauce on 24/06/2011 20:06:54
Originally by: Raz Xym
over 1/2 a million views and getting close to 200 pages with no official response. They are polishing this turd so much they better put sun glasses in the vanity shop once it hits the light of day


LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing good stuff!

Gardogg
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:06:00 - [5601]
 

I have paid way too much money to this game to be lied to! We all know what the issues are and why we are mad. I don't think there is much you can do now to appease your player base.

"Can I please count on at least some of you to help bring the pitchforks and torches down a few notches?"

You are ridiculous if you think that we are going to accept liars and cheaters from our developers. You take our money, time, and emotion and then lie to our faces, and you have the nerve to say something as stupid as this? Pitchforks are the only things that might get you to listen and start telling the truth! I am not only grabbing my pitchfork, I am sharing all I have to others so something starts to actually happen. I have had enough!

Wouldulike Sometea
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:07:00 - [5602]
 

Originally by: Myra2007
Still nothing?

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!


yes

Mara Jorin
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:07:00 - [5603]
 


Meatay
Night Theifs
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:08:00 - [5604]
 

hmm, it seems there are thoughts and opinions...

Magister Wu
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:08:00 - [5605]
 

Amarr close to 1200 and growing fast.

Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:08:00 - [5606]
 


Mukutep
The Freelancer's Mining Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:08:00 - [5607]
 

Originally by: Sylthi

Well. I got two words for you. One begins with "F" and the other begins with "Y". You guess which ones I mean.



FROZEN YOGURT?!Shocked

Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:09:00 - [5608]
 

Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Garreth Vlox

....them banning ppl in local isnt making them any friends either, kinda like macing a crowd all it does is **** them off.



That's what makes it so good to watch!
Are they really ****ing banning people in local? HAHAHA, HOW IDIOTIC ARE THESE *******S?

Mag Theron
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:09:00 - [5609]
 

In other news, SWG is shutting down: Link

Ronin Silfar
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:09:00 - [5610]
 

I have closed EVE and the sounds of the assault on Jita are still playing. This is hillarious. I cannot escape the protest on Jita no matter what I do!

AWESOME.. TRULY AWESOME.


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