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Manos Heimenbarger
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:51:00 - [5551]
 

Still nervously waiting for that devblog. Gonna feel sick to my stomach as soon as I hear it's been posted. The fact that it's taking so long to put the thing out makes me think that it will contain bad things. I don't want to have to find another game.

ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:52:00 - [5552]
 

Originally by: TV Evangelist
Originally by: Crye MultiCam

Originally by: Da Gooch

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?







!!


.

RU Sirius
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:52:00 - [5553]
 

Some on the thread referring to T20 and whether he got fired, he didn't met him a few fanfests back well after the T20 fiasco laughing it off. No one will get fired over the newsletter except the employee who leaked it.

Pedro Carnicero
Amarr
Hartes Beton
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:52:00 - [5554]
 

Edited by: Pedro Carnicero on 24/06/2011 19:52:34
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx
It's working!


No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.

Really, this needs to stop.


More gasoline!

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536909&page=2#36

leth ghost
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:52:00 - [5555]
 

CCP YOU 4UCKED UP ON THIOS BIG TIME ITS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER

Sol Kal'orr
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:53:00 - [5556]
 


A'riel Thong
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:53:00 - [5557]
 

CCP, read and learn. This has been done before!

Linkage

Qwyp
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:53:00 - [5558]
 


More plexes are bought and traded for isk than those cancelling.

We are close to breaking another record for logins today

Tards cancelling = less lag for rest of us real players

I'd say CCP wins overall

keep it up!


littlet15
Amarr
Anquietas Protectorate
Bang Bang You're Dead
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:53:00 - [5559]
 

so the plex to AUR convestion rate is a sickening joke, you're moving beyond vanity items for AUR, and now you won't even talk to your playerbase anymore. i would firstly like to offer a sincere applause of ccp Pann for stepping up when apparently the rest of you didn't even want to comment.

1. the second you give people with more rl money an advantage in eve, this game will lose what has made it everything it is. FREEDOM. here, everyone starts on level footing. the only things you have to gain you an advantage over anyone else is your friends, and your own inteligence and experience.

2. if i understand this newsletter right, you want to make it so dust players can trade isk they earn in dust over to eve players for AUR, which can in turn by limited run weapon systems and so on. please. look at battlefield heroe's and battlefield4free. go look at the number of players there. and then at the number of players on battlefield bad company 2, call of duty series, and my god, even the people still playing battlefield 2 ( back from 2005, still hundreds of servers up and running and populated ) MICROTRANSACTIONS IN FPS'S DON'T WORK. if you even try it on ps3, i garuntee you every single player who picks up a copy and doesn't play eve will return theirs within 2 days, and most eve players now knowing this won't even buy the thing. i know if theres even a slight hint of a MT system in place for it, i won't be buying it.

3. The one reason this game has lasted so long, the second longest running popular mmo of all time, is because CCP LISTENED TO IT'S PLAYERS. team BFF, the alliance tournaments, titan and supercarrier balancing, sov changes, and so on. AND WE LOVED YOU. please, for the love of god, don't become another ignorant games developer who ignores its player and treats them like cattle with bottomless pockets for you to feed on. WE LOVED YOU CCP.


It's going to take you a long time to pull back from this PR disaster, and without a complete rebalance of the AUR system, IMMEDIATELY, you're going to start losing subscriptions at a daily rate, i know i'll be pulling all but 2 of my accounts off their subscriptions. but really CCP, i hope you do, its been a good 8 years. you've lost at least my trust, and that of almost everyone i've talked to, and if we don't see immediate action, i'll be off and finding a new game to play, or maybe i'll venture back into the real world and see what the rest of humanity has done to itself.

Valthax Kelkore
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:54:00 - [5560]
 

Parlay? 180+ pgs in this thread and no worthwhile response.

Yeah, great negotiating/PR skills CCP.

Oh, wait, my bad, I forgot those both take 45d 12hr 36mins to train to 5.

Guess we'll hear back from you in a few weeks...

Joni Festus
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:54:00 - [5561]
 

I for one cant afford to pay micro transactions and the thought other people might and so giving me a disadvantage makes me want to quit.

Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr
Iure Divino
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:54:00 - [5562]
 

Originally by: Pedro Carnicero
Edited by: Pedro Carnicero on 24/06/2011 19:52:34
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx
It's working!


No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.

Really, this needs to stop.


More gasoline!

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536909&page=2#36


With all due respect, we've gone past the point where cleaning up our pony **** really matters anymore. Stop doing it, and focus on what we need to hear from you - plans for your implementation of MTs. Then this nightmare will be over.

Aineko Macx
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:54:00 - [5563]
 


cpu939
Gallente
Volatile Nature
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:54:00 - [5564]
 

Originally by: Thevani Khashour
Protest going on in Amarr at the monument! Come on down and enjoy the fun!


Still waiting, CCP.


they said they would do a post tomorrow, I have to admit using the term tomorrow is great as tomorrow never comes or will ccp's post

Jefferson H Clay
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:54:00 - [5565]
 

Originally by: Pedro Carnicero
Edited by: Pedro Carnicero on 24/06/2011 19:52:34
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx
It's working!


No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.

Really, this needs to stop.


More gasoline!

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536909&page=2#36


Confirming CCP Fallout requested ponies.

Wyatt Herb
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:54:00 - [5566]
 

From the leaked .pdf, on using "consumerism as a powerful game design tool" (I work for a game company and I can't see how that makes any sense btw):

"If successful, this will result in their increased emotional attachment to our product and services for the benefit of all. If not, we run the risk of sucking our customers dry and leaving their shriveled corpses by the side of the road to the benefit of none."


So it seems to me that you're about to achieve the second option even before you really get started?

I have to pay for a game and the game leaves me as a second-rate player for not paying more? You can count me among those shriveled corpses left by the side of the road.

I'm a loyal customer, I'll even call myself a fan. I've recommended Eve to quite a number of people and always brag about how well the game is run to friends who play other games. I felt greatly disappointed reading your internal .pdf.

It's especially disappointing to see how you regard your customers. I was under the fantasy that CCP cared about the game and us loyal customers. Turns out they only care about the money, and are interested in good game play only as long as it makes them money. If ruining the game play would yield better revenues they would apparently be willing to do it.


Well since money is the only thing that'll work as an incentive, how about this: If you add non-vanity MT to Eve I'll cancel my subscription immediately. Good luck funding two other projects with no Eve player base.


El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:54:00 - [5567]
 

Originally by: RU Sirius
Some on the thread referring to T20 and whether he got fired, he didn't met him a few fanfests back well after the T20 fiasco laughing it off. No one will get fired over the newsletter except the employee who leaked it.


Wasn't an employee.....they had them laying around during AT9 from my understanding.....

cerbus
Minor Annoyance...
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:55:00 - [5568]
 


Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:56:00 - [5569]
 

Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 19:58:39
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1352648

Back when there was still time, probably one of the last moments before the final fall.

edit: There is another thread related to the issue of the day, :18 months:?

Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:57:00 - [5570]
 

Originally by: cerbus
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


Now I see why you left the CSM in protest, T'amber. I thought you were overreacting and silly but it all makes sense now.

xynix
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:57:00 - [5571]
 

The riots have spread all across New Eden. Jita, Amar, where will it end. I bet CCP is carefully wording their response for as much damage control as possible, but will they get away with it?

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:57:00 - [5572]
 

Getting tired to wait their blog?



Originally by: CCP Pann
While most of what I do happens behind the curtains, I am still aware of whats going on front and center.

Its clear that many of you are <understatement alert> angry </alert>.

I was the one who made the decision to hold off on responding for a while to see if things cooled down once the new wore off.

I was wrong to do that and I apologize. We should have said something much sooner.

I promise well start getting some info out tomorrow.

If you have something to say, Id like very much to hear it.

Humbly yours,
~P~



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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:58:00 - [5573]
 

Originally by: Qwyp

More plexes are bought and traded for isk than those cancelling.

We are close to breaking another record for logins today

Tards cancelling = less lag for rest of us real players

I'd say CCP wins overall

keep it up!




Hi CCP!

Max Gades
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:58:00 - [5574]
 

Edited by: Max Gades on 24/06/2011 20:06:35
The development will hide on Twitter because they are spinless and are afraid of us wait for them to post here on the forum because they are at the barrel end of a Titan DD. But hey I more than welcome to see even one fallout's smart a$$ comment on the forum right about now just to show he's still following weather than just posting that he's scared of us on Twitter.

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:58:00 - [5575]
 

Still nothing?

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!

Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:59:00 - [5576]
 

Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Originally by: cerbus
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Now I see why you left the CSM in protest, T'amber. I thought you were overreacting and silly but it all makes sense now.

Quoted because it's sad but true. Sad

Kurvica Kravlja
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:59:00 - [5577]
 

Originally by: Dennie Fleetfoot

I've been gaming for over 30 years now and what CCP have achieved in the last 72 hours is nothing less than the biggest epic fail in gaming history.



its not the biggest fail,remember star wars galaxies?
CCP is just repeating that mistake,btw don't plan to extend my subscription......I may rethink it if something drasticaly changes but otherwise **** this ****

Breanna Tobith
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:59:00 - [5578]
 

2005 called...

They want their position of 'Worst year of NGE' back. I'd say CCP should give it back to them.

Don't make EVE the next Star Wars Galaxies, CCP.

Professor Atomic
Totenkopf Division
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:00:00 - [5579]
 

Why did CCP get into bed with Sony? History repeats itself...

NPE...NGE...whatever you call it; it has all the hallmarks of the team that ruined SWG.

Garreth Vlox
Minmatar
Obsidian Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:00:00 - [5580]
 

Originally by: Krispy Dingo


Have you forgotten that they are people, too, because all you see are walls of text?


I have always seen, in the past, how the EVE community is more mature than in any other MMORPG out there,



If you don't like the direction the game is taking, then it has ceased to be fun for you, and you have to wonder why you are wasting your money on it.


1) believe me us haters know they are ppl, they happen to be the ppl ruining the game, so yeah im gonna give them all the hell i can on this forum in the hopes that i make their day as miserable as mine was yesterday after i read their internal memo looking for anyway possible to squeeze another dime out of me

2) just out of curiosity have you ever actually "read" coad?

3) this seems to be what ppl are doing we'll just have to see what the damage is in a few weeks, but it doesnt look good, given the 2000+ character local riot moving between the trade hubs, them banning ppl in local isnt making them any friends either, kinda like macing a crowd all it does is **** them off.


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