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Gutuie
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:45:00 - [5281]
 

Originally by: Urah Dedman
Originally by: LordElfa
Originally by: Miilla



Somebody want to log into Eve to see if its still there?




Yes it is, it still has the average amount of around 43,000 players, so this isn't having much effect.


Mostly in Jita it looks like.

i got the feeling that numbers with ppl online is pumped up by ccp

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:45:00 - [5282]
 

Jita: 2200

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:45:00 - [5283]
 

Originally by: Meatay
Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.





sparkleponies may just solve this whole thing


not empty quotin'

Mittani, get us our sparkleponies!Very Happy

Rona Trudko
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:45:00 - [5284]
 

Just standing up to be counted. One day our children will ask, "Where were you when..."

Full support to:

http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html

Neom Disaki
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:45:00 - [5285]
 

Originally by: London
This might sound kind of silly, but maybe they are paving the way for a F2P Eve Online given the insane popularity of F2P games lately.
I realize that you cannot sustain such an endeavor on a mere 8 items in the money store, but foreseeably for the future they would have ships/ammo/gear or premium level training much like World of Tanks.

Now I know this isn't what Eve's model is about, but hey... just my guess that they want to keep their options open given how rapidly the industry is changing.



I think that is EXACTLY what they're doing, and they want their subscribers to pay for the transition.

Alexingeras
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:45:00 - [5286]
 

Lol, some1 petition CCP to reinforce node i can't load grid in jita.

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:46:00 - [5287]
 

Originally by: Bagehi
Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.

The prices on the NEX is what worries me. It gives the strong impression that the people making decisions have a disconnect with reality. I don't see anything I would pay money for, maybe there would be some kind of vanity item at some price point that I would think "meh, why not" at some point, but there is a complete disconnect with reality when CCP makes a pixel shirt that costs more than a RL shirt.



I just can't bring myself to give a crap about vanity items. People pay almost a thousand bucks to get a special tiger mount in WoW. I care about spaceships, since this is a spaceship game, not a dress-up game. They could literally charge 5000 bucks for a monocle and I wouldn't lift a finger to stop them. vOv

For me, the long knives come out if they start trying to mess with the gameplay itself with micros. Gold ammo, ships that are different from existing ships statswise, etc.

Gouzu Kho
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:46:00 - [5288]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.




I'm very glad we have the CSM right now. o7

Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:46:00 - [5289]
 

Where is the massive CCP reply we've been promised?

El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:46:00 - [5290]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.




Good words, but when did they last work on the stuff most important to you and most of us?

Tea Ester Elliot
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:46:00 - [5291]
 

The official decision to...

a. ****-over everyone who is against non-vanity mt
b. scrap the over-arching plans of that newsletter

is being delayed?

Someone tell me how this is a hard question to answer? Are they googling the word vanity in the hopes a perfect definition exists in some obscure codex?

Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:46:00 - [5292]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.


Sup, Mittens. That mook, Soundwave as well as the other opposing view, Diagoras, were obviously just used as faces by marketing to make what was already an executive decision look like a discussion for the more challenged within CCP. The MT, pay to win, decision was obviously made, long ago. If not they would have said so in one of the devbogrolls this morning at the latest, not when the sh!tstorm was hitting close to 200 posts.

They're not going back on that, obviously, and have mostly been dithering amongst themselves on how to say that to the customers in a way hat won't make this worse. That is probably nigh on impossible right now.

Jake McKay
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:47:00 - [5293]
 

Originally by: Fred Barbossa
The rage is over ccp denying it but apparently they've been planning it internally for a while and someone was nice enough to leak that.

Its especially nice when you see things like "saved fittings" moved server side so they can charge us for it. Standings made invisible so no one knows if you bought them, a system for distributing skillpoints added.


So, basically once all this is implemented, some day 1 noob with a bank account can come in to eve and be sitting in a machariel with maxed skills behind it, where as the poorer subscriber that I am, has had to bust a** in this game since early 2009 to get what I have in game?

Someone explain to me how that's fair...

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:47:00 - [5294]
 

Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 18:49:31

Going to take a different tact for a moment.

As a software engineer with a talent for architechure and planning I actually think CCPs plan was pure genius and have done for some time.

* Paying for WoD while passing it off as WiS (Incarna, notice the working title similarity, puntastic).
Genius.

* Developing a quick and easy console shooter clone for cheap, to bolster coffers and get past the hard times.
Not bad. If it is just a quick clone and if you talk to the distributors *FIRST*

At the same time, stupid and crazy groupthink, from an isolated bunch of idiots who think too much of themselves.

I never really understood the "hints" of MT/P2W/F2P leaks and things that would come along from time-to-time. From a coders angle it never did make sense.

edit: oh and of course "corification" comes into the WoD/WiS thing where it's all just the same code over and over.
Which means whenever they patch something in WoD they can say "We fixed a major Eve bug!".

edit edit: I just never thought it would work :-D

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:48:00 - [5295]
 

Won't let me into Jita, too congested

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:48:00 - [5296]
 



So, Who is your favorite CCP person?


Anna Maziarczyk
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:48:00 - [5297]
 

I wouldnt put it past them to wholesale start selling everything weve been asking for.

I think the "Evil Capitalist" bit, if it had worked, would have opened the door for a cash shop beyond imagination.

Troll Bridgington
Incompertus INC
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:48:00 - [5298]
 

Because of FalcoN!!!!!

saltrock0000
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:48:00 - [5299]
 

I am writing this on my main character as i want people to know who has this opinion.

Very quickly scanned a few posts here, and a big grief people have is load on your computer, which im assuming means your all running 386's back from the feking 1990's.... BUY A NEW COMPUTER if your a gamer, and dont ask a buisness who is joining the 20th century with graphics to stay in the dark ages jsut because your a cheap ass! If the game didnt upgrade and start looking better as other games progress they would slowly loose custom and the game would die, you'd jsut have the few cheapasses left who cannot stay up to date with new games!

The price of aurum is high... is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy it?! I mean cmon its decorative. GROW UP PEOPLE!

The grief about the captains quaters.... WTF is wrong with it? Its a STEP towards walking in stations. Would you enter a marathon before you could walk?!

Use common sense people Rolling Eyes


Nikki West
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:49:00 - [5300]
 

We reached Jita's cap lol.

Pakokkie
Caldari
Under Heavy Fire
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:49:00 - [5301]
 

plz, let this go trough as planned. If I pop a pod from a pilot with a monocle it will be much more fun.

Eladaris
Amarr
Excessum Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:49:00 - [5302]
 

Originally by: Maisonian
I'd gladly pay Aurium for a Hybrid turret that actually worked.



Isn't that sort of the problem? You'd pay AUR for developer time, and once CCP figures that out they'd just sell you everything in the future via AUR.

Sure you'd get buggy updates that need constant patching, but the really cool and shiny stuff would be deferred until after CCP finishes Dust and WoD and only then would your RL currency be pushed towards fixing the issues in Eve.

Soren Bolimar
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:49:00 - [5303]
 


Ronin Silfar
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:49:00 - [5304]
 

Up to 2100 in Jita

General Paul
Atomic Heroes
The G0dfathers
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:49:00 - [5305]
 

I came to protest but it seems Jita is full =/

Zemkhoff
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:49:00 - [5306]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.





Maya Firewish
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:50:00 - [5307]
 

Originally by: Miilla


So, Who is your favorite CCP person?




Whomever resigns first.

Achmebenzadream
Minmatar
Havoc Violence and Chaos
Merciless.
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:50:00 - [5308]
 

BTW Jita's dropping back to 2k rapidly

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:51:00 - [5309]
 

Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 18:51:29
Originally by: saltrock0000
I am writing this on my main character as i want people to know who has this opinion.

Very quickly scanned a few posts here, and a big grief people have is load on your computer, which im assuming means your all running 386's back from the feking 1990's.... BUY A NEW COMPUTER if your a gamer, and dont ask a buisness who is joining the 20th century with graphics to stay in the dark ages jsut because your a cheap ass! If the game didnt upgrade and start looking better as other games progress they would slowly loose custom and the game would die, you'd jsut have the few cheapasses left who cannot stay up to date with new games!

The price of aurum is high... is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy it?! I mean cmon its decorative. GROW UP PEOPLE!

The grief about the captains quaters.... WTF is wrong with it? Its a STEP towards walking in stations. Would you enter a marathon before you could walk?!

Use common sense people Rolling Eyes




lol.

Just wake up?

edit: to save you scanning more posts. CCPGames the company is failing. Not some feature.

Marcus Vorenius
Caldari
Task Force 42
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:51:00 - [5310]
 

need moar capsuleers for Kongo line around JITA 4-4: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536803&page=3


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