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Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz' aar K'in
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:37:00 - [5251]
 

Threadnarok.

That's the word you've been looking for. Threadtitan sounds a bit forced, and Threadnarok nicely foreshadows doom.

London
Imminent Ruin
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:38:00 - [5252]
 

This might sound kind of silly, but maybe they are paving the way for a F2P Eve Online given the insane popularity of F2P games lately.
I realize that you cannot sustain such an endeavor on a mere 8 items in the money store, but foreseeably for the future they would have ships/ammo/gear or premium level training much like World of Tanks.

Now I know this isn't what Eve's model is about, but hey... just my guess that they want to keep their options open given how rapidly the industry is changing.

Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:38:00 - [5253]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.


Something I can finally agree with The Mittens about, this must be hell.

ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
The Veerhouven Group
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:38:00 - [5254]
 

Originally by: Ender sup
Originally by: ACY GTMI
One thing that I would like to point out. CCP knows the stats on actual subscription cancellations. We lose OUR credibility if a thousand people say they canceled and CCP notices that only 1 person actually did it.


I don't want to quit eve. It's place where I could enjoy spending my free time and spin ships in stations, it's not like one day a candy factory stops making candy and everyone can go next door. Bring back the fun ccp, do it right and give us back eve online and more, all those dreams you shared at all the fan fests. We're fighting for it why aren't you cpp?


I agree completely. I have a lot of time and money invested in the game, and I, frankly, love it. But I love what it used to be. Not what it is turning into.

And, after reading some of the info leaks from CCP, they've lost any trust/respect/credibility they've ever had as far as I am concerned.

Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr
Iure Divino
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:39:00 - [5255]
 

Jita at 2K people. Come join the party, and break the records.

Alexingeras
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:39:00 - [5256]
 

Omwto Jita!

Kary Tamona
Crom Demons
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:40:00 - [5257]
 

OMW to Jita

Ven'Nochthos
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:40:00 - [5258]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.




For once I agree wholeheartedly with you mittens; now it's time for you an goons to pull whatever aces you have up your sleeves and help us lowlives in what is a righteous cause.

LordElfa
Gallente
Golden Lyon Warriors
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:40:00 - [5259]
 

Originally by: Miilla



Somebody want to log into Eve to see if its still there?




Yes it is, it still has the average amount of around 43,000 players, so this isn't having much effect.

Gutuie
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:40:00 - [5260]
 

Originally by: Fantome
CCP : That is the most ever stupid thing i've read, add that to those new tax (99) for developers on API that shows you only want now to do the very MAX money with the game from us without thinking even a very little to the players bases.

Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad


99 per year is not that much, BUT the idea of ccp to act like cheep greedy company to charge a 3rd party who do job for them is really bad.
If this company stay in few hundreads dollars per year better dismiss ccp soundwave they get more money per year

Eladaris
Amarr
Excessum Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:40:00 - [5261]
 

Originally by: Al Crowley
Quote:
Jita protest is in full swing.... Jita over 1.5K in system.


Now they can report a spike in logins, and show that Incarna is well-received. Good job.


Unless half those people in Jita care enough to pop over to the forums and learn about the current issues, the spike in Jita will do nothing more than tell CCP they were succesful.

Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 - [5262]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.

The prices on the NEX is what worries me. It gives the strong impression that the people making decisions have a disconnect with reality. I don't see anything I would pay money for, maybe there would be some kind of vanity item at some price point that I would think "meh, why not" at some point, but there is a complete disconnect with reality when CCP makes a pixel shirt that costs more than a RL shirt.

Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 - [5263]
 

Originally by: Kary Tamona
OMW to Jita

Meatay
Night Theifs
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 - [5264]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.





sparkleponies may just solve this whole thing

Soren Bolimar
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 - [5265]
 

2000 spectators in Jita and counting... This is the view from the main arrivals hall at 4-4:

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

raker
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 - [5266]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.

Points:

*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.

*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.

The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.

*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.

My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.





Csm input is welcome but its time that CCP responded

They have a big fire to put out before it gets out of control

Elondris Singh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 - [5267]
 

Originally by: Eladaris
Originally by: Al Crowley
Quote:
Jita protest is in full swing.... Jita over 1.5K in system.


Now they can report a spike in logins, and show that Incarna is well-received. Good job.


Unless half those people in Jita care enough to pop over to the forums and learn about the current issues, the spike in Jita will do nothing more than tell CCP they were succesful.


I'm going anyways, cuz why not. I've screamed. Time to have some fun with it :P

Dunarad
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 - [5268]
 

if you want to break the node, use a lot of drakes using rocket launchers.
Just sayin' ;)

Jin Gennare
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 - [5269]
 

Why do people think protesting the game by playing the game is a good idea?

Urah Dedman
Minmatar
DEEP-13
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 - [5270]
 

Originally by: LordElfa
Originally by: Miilla



Somebody want to log into Eve to see if its still there?




Yes it is, it still has the average amount of around 43,000 players, so this isn't having much effect.


Mostly in Jita it looks like.

Rtu
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 - [5271]
 

People in this thread made lots of great posts that clearly explain all community concerns.
All of them, not only that big yellow question.
CCP haven't answered a mere 0.1% of those questions.

Anyway, I think that now it's a little bit too late for talking. Players demand actions to prove good intentions. When you lose trust such things happen. You broke far too many promises, you haven't done anything about REAL game's problems, and in the mean time you make that outrageous newsletter. You're either indeed became too greedy or is it the head (that big thing up on your neck that you see in the mirror) is what you think with or something else?

related picture (sorry if it breaks layout though I don't know how it can - fits into forum frames perfectly on my screen.. would be cool if eve-o forums could have picture thumbnails like most modern forums do... takes not too much coding to implement it):
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Kewso
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 - [5272]
 

haha more suicide bombings in jita...

this is hilarious watching griefers vs the whiners


now this is what eve is all about... CCP knows they are extremely successful, look how many are logged in

haha we gonna hit a record

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:43:00 - [5273]
 

Originally by: Eladaris
Unless half those people in Jita care enough to pop over to the forums and learn about the current issues, the spike in Jita will do nothing more than tell CCP they were succesful.


I took a look, a number are being informed, some are as we would normaly expect.

Eve crashed twice of course, lovely, same module, same offset ...

Nikki West
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:43:00 - [5274]
 

Jita at 2.1k... Log to Jita and let's make a difference!

Dogo Duma
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:43:00 - [5275]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence.



You have just no credibility whatsoever do you, with the emberassing fanboyism while your peer CSM members are trying to work their asses off to make it possible to build a bridge.

You're either still coping with the booze, or you're just playing the usual "I don't care as long as my dev buddy says it's cool".

Words, words, words. Just like CCP, it is beyond that stage. Go inform yourself, do the homework. Talk with your peer CSM members. Then come back.


Malachi256
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:44:00 - [5276]
 

Jita was at 2000 a few minutes ago, now it's at 2100, climbing rapidly. Lots of people attacking the statue.

tulsIP
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:44:00 - [5277]
 

In the words of SirMolle:

Tick-Tock.

OCHOYTNIK
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:45:00 - [5278]
 

I was debating with myself whether to let my accounts drop and this has been a watershed moment.

I have real life flesh and blood people all over the world who know me as Ocho, they are my friends so it's weird to be letting go of three accounts. I won't kid you and say that I have done this because of this thread solely but it's tipped the balance. I could sell a tengu and plex my accounts and I'm hoping that I'll be back at some point.

I love eve, it's my hobby, it's the reason I bought an M11X. I live in Romania and don't get out much as I'm a Brit. Eve has been a lifeline back home and given me something to look forward to. I want to come back but as of the 7th Ocho is going into stasis 32 mil sp. on the 9th of next month seop follows 35 mil SP. What really makes me happy is that I'll be able to play on my third account until september when it too will lock up.

I really hope that CCP starts listening because we wait for fixes to things for way too long and it appears that the focus is on short term Operating Profit rather than preservation of the player base. I'm not mad about monocles, I would never buy one. I'm not mad about AUR because we'd be able to gank the noobs that use it easily enough, the skill factor is still there (not that I possess any!). What worries me is that I have poured money and time into these characters and they are going into a future where the developers don't listen and respond to our needs.

I understand that you want to bring in Monocles, Great! I'll hunt anyone wearing one. What I can't understand is a company that leaves it's entire customer base sitting for so long with no information.

If I can justify the 300 Euros I'll bring back my characters. I'm one in fifty thousand I know. Please pull up, please save my game.

"Not like this... Not like this..."

Sarah Moonshine
doMAL S.A.
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:45:00 - [5279]
 

Originally by: tulsIP
In the words of SirMolle:

Tick-Tock.


This isn't molle's; he was just reproducing an old eve meme.

Amber Villaneous
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:45:00 - [5280]
 

It's past business hours in Iceland.

CCP could not come out with:

"We promise that there will never, ever, be MT for game affecting items. A more comprehensive statement will follow"

What does this mean?Confused


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