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Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:23:00 - [4531]
 

Originally by: ISquishWorms
Unlike you SoundWave I don't think greed is good therefore I sent you this free of charge.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


+1 for a good chuckle! :)

KhaosStar
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:23:00 - [4532]
 

Edited by: KhaosStar on 24/06/2011 16:24:14
2 Subscriptions canceled
Reason: InGame Issues
Reason: Latest Patch
Comments: F**K Incarna

I'm talking with my wallet. I suggest those that are upset with Incarna do the same until the change we want happens.

CCP. This is NOT your game. You made it. We fund it. Without us you have NOTHING. You had better remember that.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:23:00 - [4533]
 

Originally by: YarrMama
So CCP will post some BS response 2 minutes before they shut down for the day and hope that this will all go away by monday. Anyone taking bets?Very Happy


There is no point betting on those odds.

Le Sabre
Gallente
The Dead Canary Mining Corporation
Legion of Honor
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:23:00 - [4534]
 

CCP_OhWell CCP OhWell
solutions are not easy in this. #tweetfleet #eveonline
1 minute ago


Yes they bloody are, get rid of barbie dollars (Aur) now and ditch the mt plans totally.

Cant understand why they don't see this. YARRRR!!

TenTon Tommie
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:23:00 - [4535]
 

Originally by: Miilla


Eve Customers will flex a little, they have, they accepted vanity items in the NEX store, they accepted the PLEX, but game changing MT items, they won't budge on most likely. CCP has a plan, they are executing on it, doesn't matter how far customers flex a little. CCP doesn't care, it is their time table and their demise.

No sense in fighting what is already comming, let em screw it up, it's just a game for us, it is a job for them, which is now at greater risk, we have no risk to take. Let em screw themselves.

I have no problem with this at all, really, I have 110 days remaining, I just hope CCP don't go bankrupt between now and 110 days time, after that, I don't care if they get layoffs. Not my problem really.


I plan to have fun all the way out, if that fun means laughing at CCP and their employees, Fine by me, Just another form of fun.

No sense in being miserable over it, it's not worth it, and neither are CCP.


When the rats trolls leave the game, that is a time to worry, really, it is.






TODO:

1) Play Eve
2) Watch CCP's demise - IN PROGRESS
3) Watch real train wreck to compare with item 2)
4) if no train wreck available, perhaps a ship sinking to compare witn item 2)




Miilla - after being tormented by endless spam in Rens local, after seeing endless scam's posted in contracts, and even after the self-satisfaction of podding you during the last Hulkageddon, I have to admit. I think I like you. To bad, it happened so close to the end. Cheers in your future scamming endeavors.

TTT

Ghurthe
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:24:00 - [4536]
 

I wonder how many people will just outright quit eve if CCP announces MT, or more accurately RMT, for any advantages involving space ships.

I know I'll be ceasing subscription payments until it's gone.

Maximillian Dragonard
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:24:00 - [4537]
 

Several above have posted what matters most to me.

Eve is my hobby... I pay for 3 accounts, play when I can, and I'm ok with that setup. It's become readily apparent that my hobby is nothing more than a "cash cow" for CCP to milk in order to fund their other projects.

The decline in quality started around the time of the White Wolf merger. Focus for the revenue stream began to shift from Eve, to WoD. When Dust was announced, it accelerated the downward spiral in game quality and updates. This last abomination of an "expansion" has me seriously doubting my continued presence.

You want a MT store for vanity items, no biggie. Use that revenue to support your other projects. However, I feel my subscriptions should primarily be used to support WHAT I'M PAYING FOR. This has obviously not been the case, and without a shift in priorities, I see no reason to continue along this path.

I love this game, but my level of frustration with it has been growing steadily, and the latest revelations have ratcheted that frustration up to a critical level.

Max

Phyridean
LEGION OF PROFESSOR CHAOS
Darkmatter Initiative
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:24:00 - [4538]
 

Originally by: YarrMama
Originally by: Zverofaust
CCP_OhWell CCP OhWell
We're still in intense meetings... solutions are not easy in this. #tweetfleet #eveonline
1 minute ago


Not everyone tweets - tell them to post an update here so we don't feel abandoned by CCP as usual.


Thanks for the lulz on a crappy day. You obviously don't tweet either.

Marcus Vorenius
Caldari
Task Force 42
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:25:00 - [4539]
 

Edited by: Marcus Vorenius on 24/06/2011 16:25:44
Originally by: Zverofaust
CCP_OhWell
We're still in intense meetings... solutions are not easy in this. #tweetfleet #eveonline
1 minute ago


She is not CCP

So they booted Helicity and you are still here Shocked

YarrMama
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:25:00 - [4540]
 

Originally by: Phyridean
Originally by: YarrMama
Originally by: Zverofaust
CCP_OhWell CCP OhWell
We're still in intense meetings... solutions are not easy in this. #tweetfleet #eveonline
1 minute ago


Not everyone tweets - tell them to post an update here so we don't feel abandoned by CCP as usual.


Thanks for the lulz on a crappy day. You obviously don't tweet either.


I'm too old to tweet, I'm just here for the laughs. Very Happy

Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:25:00 - [4541]
 

Originally by: Riithi Bashere
Edited by: Riithi Bashere on 24/06/2011 16:18:26
Quote:
To be perfectly honest, Iím here to buy time while we try to sort things out.


Time is running out.

Quote:
Iím willing to step out front and take a lot of heat for that since I was the one who made the decision to hold off on responding for a while to see if things cooled down once the new wore off. I was wrong to do that and I apologize.


And now you'r doing it again...




These are not :lolcustomers:, CCP. These are guys that I flew with, guys that aren't the type to whine on forums about anything. Stand-up people that make this game what it is, that you are pushing out because your vision of EVE doesn't include them.

Fix this.

Max Kolonko
Caldari
Worm Nation
Ash Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:25:00 - [4542]
 

Damn, I skimmed trough all those 4500 posts but only read CCP/CSM/YELLOW posts.

CCP, please listen to reason. You are keep pushing the boundry to check if it bugde a little further, but instead at one point it will snap. Please keep Vanity items truly Vanity.

Other than that fix all bugs You made with 3 last patches.

And for god sake, allow us to fully TURN OFF CQ and get back to all-favorite station-spinning

Ga'len
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:25:00 - [4543]
 

Originally by: Zverofaust
CCP_OhWell CCP OhWell
We're still in intense meetings... solutions are not easy in this. #tweetfleet #eveonline
1 minute ago


You do know that CCP Ohwell is NOT an actual CCP employee, he's a twitter troll. Yes, humorous at times, but just a twitter troll.

Grog Barrel
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:26:00 - [4544]
 

meanwhile, in CCP HQ:

"who leaked the info, you are goin to jail, we gonna find out who was!"

instead of caring about the real issue.

Ancyker
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:26:00 - [4545]
 

Originally by: ISquishWorms
Edited by: ISquishWorms on 24/06/2011 16:23:37
Unlike you SoundWave I don't think greed is good therefore I sent you this for free, hope you put it to some good use.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


So I hacked in Soundwaves account earlier and found this:
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Neom Disaki
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:26:00 - [4546]
 

Originally by: Ga'len
Originally by: Zverofaust
CCP_OhWell CCP OhWell
We're still in intense meetings... solutions are not easy in this. #tweetfleet #eveonline
1 minute ago


You do know that CCP Ohwell is NOT an actual CCP employee, he's a twitter troll. Yes, humorous at times, but just a twitter troll.

QFT

Tanjita
Amarr
Team of Programmers
TOP.
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:26:00 - [4547]
 

This sums my feelings up perfectly!

CQ/NEX

Stormchyld
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:26:00 - [4548]
 

Originally by: visableone
im upset that there was'nt one person in the whole of ccp who stood up and said

'NO, are you mad? you can't do this to my game, i love to play it and this would totally spoil it, we can't monetize third party apps now after all the community has done, we can't add MT for items in a new release of eve after they already pay a sub which allowed us to design and develop the expansion to begin with, and we certainly can't destory our player run market by adding in MT items that our players can not build for themselves'

was there no one in ccp that was opposed to this?

i cast a vote of no confidence with ccp


my real worry now is that years of delvelopment and money have been push into this,. and even if ccp were to turn around and address these issues, eve is in for some hard times over the comming year or so, to which i hope it recovers, but hope is all i have.


... +1 ... have been thinking the same thing.

Technovar
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:26:00 - [4549]
 

Originally by: Zarak1 Kenpach1
CCP must think of its employees as serfs and slaves if they make their opinions and ideas trade secrets.

Does CCP give out shares to their employees and if so how many? Can CCP employees actually pull off voting in bloc for a new board and CEO?


CCP doesn't even own itself anymore, I'd bet.

How much do the VCs own, CCP?

Coh1ba
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:26:00 - [4550]
 

CCP proving to be evicient. So much words for such a few changes.

Melkath Bandrom
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:27:00 - [4551]
 

Originally by: Zverofaust
CCP_OhWell CCP OhWell
We're still in intense meetings... solutions are not easy in this. #tweetfleet #eveonline
1 minute ago


ccp_ohwell isnt a ccp employee. poster on the tweetfleet is all he is. Has no official affiliation with CCP.

Herring
Caldari
Pimpology
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:27:00 - [4552]
 

Thanks for having the stones to make that post.

I'd like to resub and support the game in general, but:

1. only if I'm supporting the game in general, NOT vanity items. Paying a monthly fee is the price I thought it was worth paying to not be nickel and dimed for items that were being sold for rl cash. Play for free MMO's do this. You want us to pay monthly, and pay again for virtual goods and services? NO DEAL.

2. as the CQ is just a display case for vanity items, make it optional like you promised originally. Look back at the last 150 pages of posts. How many people are happy about it? If you take a look at that and still decide it needs to be forced down peoples' throats, then NO DEAL.

3. Stop the hardon with upgrading graphics, all the time. Refocus on fixing issues that are broken or that people are unhappy with. If I can't see the launch tube on missile launcher in high definition, the universe will not end. Especially if instead of upping the graphics engine (again) maybe some effort were put into things the players think need attention. Heed the posts of people here; they're not angry without good reason. If you cannot do this, I, among others, cannot send you money again.

Here's hoping you take these posts seriously. Being from swg, I've got I serious case of pessimism that anything will go in the direction that's pleasant.

Mechael
Minmatar
Helhest 1st Prospectors' Collective
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:27:00 - [4553]
 

Originally by: Nath Blazek
Edited by: Nath Blazek on 24/06/2011 16:24:19
Originally by: Jimmy Juice Lips
WHY ARE EVE PLAYERS BEING PENALISED DUE TO THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD OF DARKNESS AND DUST 514 ?

CCP FAIL.


Read why from the Editor of the Fearless, infamous newsletter.

And it couldnít come at a better time. As EVE edges closer to being the
grand dame of gaming, turning 8 years old this month, and our other
game titles continue their prodigious growth (yes, World of Darkness too
Ė you got the t-shirt to prove it), our development road map is shaping up
stronger and better. However, as a subscription based golden goose, EVE
needs to incorporate the virtual goods sales model to allow for further
revenue Ė revenue to fund our other titles, revenue for its developer: you.
The model also supports the notion of creating a meaningful experience
and identity for the player (more in our main feature on page 4).


Get out now unless you support beta testing and paying for their development of titles they still care about (not EVE)


Whoever wrote that needs to be fired. Pronto. GTFO away from my game!

Jaroslav Unwanted
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:27:00 - [4554]
 


S'qarpium D'igil
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:27:00 - [4555]
 

Edited by: S''qarpium D''igil on 24/06/2011 16:42:41
Edited by: S''qarpium D''igil on 24/06/2011 16:33:07

Please don't fire anybody over this: that would be absolutely ridiculous. Welcome to the N-a-z-i party if Soundwave loses his job over this.




I like the idea of the CQ and WiS. I think this release is buggy, untested, and doesn't live up to it's potential. That said, I look forward to seeing what you do with it in the future.


I just want the old hangar view back, with a [disembark] button that takes me to my captains quarters. At this point, the old UI (neocom) will be gone until you're back in the pod (follows game lore).

Also, please move the pod off of the balcony and into its own room.



I don't care about the NEX as long as it's for vanity items only.

Also, you should explain more clearly that everything in the game can be considered to be on an MT market since we have PLEX ($ for ISK).



That's all. Good luck with this CCP, I hope you can walk out of it alive.

Demure Guise
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:27:00 - [4556]
 

Edited by: Demure Guise on 24/06/2011 16:29:15
CCP_OhWell CCP OhWell
We're still in intense meetings... solutions are not easy in this. #tweetfleet #eveonline

IF this is not a spoof:- Hey, THIS is the official forum, right? How about a little word or two HERE? I wouldn't **** on Twitter.

Eladaris
Amarr
Excessum Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:28:00 - [4557]
 

Originally by: Zverofaust
CCP_OhWell CCP OhWell
We're still in intense meetings... solutions are not easy in this. #tweetfleet #eveonline
1 minute ago


Isn't CCP OhWell on twitter a troll, and not an actual CCP employee? Pretty sure I've seen that stated a ton of times on twitter.

Although, by the time I hit the Post Reply button twenty other people will have said the same thing faster ^^:;

dhunpael
Caldari
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:28:00 - [4558]
 

so ccp decided that scamming is nice when they can do it them selves?

BTW patch notes are there to tell us what's going to chance, not what HAS BEEN changed, like the scanning formula, anyone?

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:28:00 - [4559]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 16:28:48


Having never experienced a company die practically over night, then watch as their financials bleed over the next year..

I must admit, I FIND IT FRACKING AMUSING, at this time, even MORE AMUSING than playing eve.


This is another one for the history books, filed under "we told ya so"


Huan CK
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:28:00 - [4560]
 

Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Originally by: Clone Whisper
It's not fair to [the CSM] to be elected and than be forbidden to communicate with the people they are representing about what's going on behind the screens. I say, truely make the CSM the voice of the community tehy are suposed to represent and stop having them be barricaded in their movement to do their jobs.

We try and communicate with the players as much as possible. Sure, there are some things that are NDA, and (alas) there are things like the virtual goods pricing strategy (or, for that manner, <insert recent CCP screwup here>) where CSM was simply not consulted. But outside of those limitations, we do the best we can.

Similarly, we convey both our personal opinions and player opinions to people in CCP. Some are receptive to the outside perspective, some are not.

As for what you should do to best express your opinion of recent events in New Eden, all I can tell you is that CCP pays more attention to what you do than what you say.


TRUTH BE TOLD!!!

I cannot unsub, cause I pay with PLEX and timecodes. But you can expect 3 accounts to expire within 20 days if CCP doesn't change path drastically! If I was able to, I'd unsub to set a mark, but I cannot :( PM me if you have any other idea on how to "do" something. Thanks.


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