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Jaroslav Unwanted
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:50:00 - [4381]
 

Originally by: Haunting Widow
Originally by: Rail Gun
No need to apologize, ewerything went better than expected. We are busy playing eve enyway so take all the time you need to give us feedback. Some people are just slightly overreacting but they will cool down eventually.

I also like to thank CCP for one of the best expansions in long time.


You must be kidding.. he's kidding right? Someone tell me he's kidding.


Not necessarily, just luck of information .. Ignorance is bliss right ?

Anyway as i wrote before :

We appreciate your effort you put in EVE online and wish we can stay along with this great game and watch how it grows. To do that we need EVE to stay on its own principles, the EVE we play, the EVE we like.

/sorry for obligatory we, i hope it will all go well.

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:51:00 - [4382]
 

Originally by: Bane Necran
Originally by: Ancyker
So I was on massively and they had a link to the now infamous newsletter, which I thought I had already read on evenews24.

But it said something about "missing pages". This peaked my interest so I downloaded it to compare to the first one. There are actually 20 pages in total in the original. It's pretty much the same thing, it appears the pages themselves were not edited, but pages were removed which dropped the context of the remaining pages. So while I'm still upset at those individuals my anger towards CCP as a whole has diminished.

The most notable line is:

DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP.

Though it still upsets me that certain individuals at CCP think as outlined in the PDF, I do feel a little better with that simple paragraph. It definitely opens the door for them to fix it, where before I didn't see a chance in hell of that happening.

Compare them for yourself:
EVENews24.com Version
Original Version

The tldr difference is basically this is just asking people within CCP their opinions on the matter and doesn't actually represent any actual plans. I still want confirmation in writing and signed by the CEO himself before I believe anything that CCP says, but I'm a bit less ragequit-y now.

While this doesn't restore my trust/faith in CCP, it damages what little I had to start with in evenews24. Ok, well, I never actually trusted evenews24 at all, but now I definitely won't ever trust them :P


Things just got much more interesting.

Good eye, sir.


No they really didn't. CCP's opinnion in the end is same than opinnion of those who drive the change forward. If they try sweep this issue under the rug with some smallprint, it is bye bye.

Things like this should not even be discussed inside CCP office walls. Period.


Algathas
Minmatar
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:51:00 - [4383]
 

"DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP."

Yeah, sure you can say that but lets analyze this for a moment:

The personal views of the leaders of a company *are* the views of the company, as those leaders will impress those views on their subordinates and push for that direction. Plus using "personal view"/"individual opinion" and "Internal information"/"Trade secret" in the same sentence kindof clashes don't you think?

Thevani Khashour
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:52:00 - [4384]
 

Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 15:47:54




Is Eve dead yet?

Have they told us the bad news yet?




I don't know if it's dead, but it's certainly not feeling well, right now.

No news.





ThirdEyeBlenny
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:52:00 - [4385]
 

Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Ancyker
So I was on massively and they had a link to the now infamous newsletter, which I thought I had already read on evenews24.

But it said something about "missing pages". This peaked my interest so I downloaded it to compare to the first one. There are actually 20 pages in total in the original. It's pretty much the same thing, it appears the pages themselves were not edited, but pages were removed which dropped the context of the remaining pages. So while I'm still upset at those individuals my anger towards CCP as a whole has diminished.

The most notable line is:

DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP.

Though it still upsets me that certain individuals at CCP think as outlined in the PDF, I do feel a little better with that simple paragraph. It definitely opens the door for them to fix it, where before I didn't see a chance in hell of that happening.

Compare them for yourself:
EVENews24.com Version
Original Version

The tldr difference is basically this is just asking people within CCP their opinions on the matter and doesn't actually represent any actual plans. I still want confirmation in writing and signed by the CEO himself before I believe anything that CCP says, but I'm a bit less ragequit-y now.

While this doesn't restore my trust/faith in CCP, it damages what little I had to start with in evenews24. Ok, well, I never actually trusted evenews24 at all, but now I definitely won't ever trust them :P


you could have saved some time by just reading the links in the second post in this thread - CCP Pann has confirmed the newsletter. FFS browse a little before posting.


He's not disputing the fact that the newsletter's authentic, you moron, he's disputing claims that have been made with regards to the newsletter representing official policy.

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:52:00 - [4386]
 

Originally by: Mekhana
I will forgive you if... If you fix hybrids. Pretty please?
Yes! Use that extra revenue from Unfamed II's monocle to work on this issue!

FantomChaser
Amarr
The Cursed Navy
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:53:00 - [4387]
 

ive read a few of the good posts. i must admit yes ccp is growing the inflation is here and we still only pay around the 15$ a month ... considering the amount of players dont grow in that huge amount they have to go for the MT deal... but heres is the problem im fine with MT aslong its for EYE CANDY and not power.. for example that idea selling a scorpion with a differnt skin its fine ASLONG you also have to give them a scorpion ... so you dont just get a ship created out of thin air because.. all ready now its clearly to see eve as it is atm will come to a flatation at some point because if we get 1b new isk every month we only pay 200m to npcs... its fine that the whole marked is now created and supported by the players but by doing so we lost a big outgoing amount of isk every month... and then by further doing ppl can buy a ship that is spawned of thin air it will make the inflation worse.. and as ccp is working atm it for me sounds like it will be the people with alot of irl money that has the biggest part to say so we will start as some F2P games and browser games... sure you can play but if you want some power you must pay so in the end we will have alliances saying you can only join if you r willing to use xxx amount of money per month.. and so forth.. id rather have they fixed alot of the 0.0 issues and used more resourses changin the code to a new and better one but i guess ccp wont lisen to all these players who are so kind to give you hints and constructive critism and not just ***** without giving a hint what should and shouldnt be done

Mechael
Minmatar
Helhest 1st Prospectors' Collective
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:53:00 - [4388]
 

Originally by: Joao Duarte
Originally by: Ancyker
So I was on massively and they had a link to the now infamous newsletter, which I thought I had already read on evenews24.

But it said something about "missing pages". This peaked my interest so I downloaded it to compare to the first one. There are actually 20 pages in total in the original. It's pretty much the same thing, it appears the pages themselves were not edited, but pages were removed which dropped the context of the remaining pages. So while I'm still upset at those individuals my anger towards CCP as a whole has diminished.

The most notable line is:

DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP.

Though it still upsets me that certain individuals at CCP think as outlined in the PDF, I do feel a little better with that simple paragraph. It definitely opens the door for them to fix it, where before I didn't see a chance in hell of that happening.

Compare them for yourself:
EVENews24.com Version
Original Version

The tldr difference is basically this is just asking people within CCP their opinions on the matter and doesn't actually represent any actual plans. I still want confirmation in writing and signed by the CEO himself before I believe anything that CCP says, but I'm a bit less ragequit-y now.

While this doesn't restore my trust/faith in CCP, it damages what little I had to start with in evenews24. Ok, well, I never actually trusted evenews24 at all, but now I definitely won't ever trust them :P


1. The "CCP employer" expressing his "opinion" is a lead game designer.
2. His "opinions" are insulting.


+1

Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr
Iure Divino
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:53:00 - [4389]
 

One hour until 5PM Iceland time...

Let's see that spinblog get released, CCP! Better than nothing!

Xavier Novae
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:53:00 - [4390]
 

Originally by: Algathas
"DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP."

Yeah, sure you can say that but lets analyze this for a moment:

The personal views of the leaders of a company *are* the views of the company, as those leaders will impress those views on their subordinates and push for that direction. Plus using "personal view"/"individual opinion" and "Internal information"/"Trade secret" in the same sentence kindof clashes don't you think?




Phew.. thanks.. you saved me some typing.

Views of higher ups at ccp = views of ccp.

Roderak Pleem
Minmatar
Abandoned Land
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:53:00 - [4391]
 

We need to get off the whole "Incarna isn't a good expansion" thing.

We have seen the first phase. Once Incarna is fully rolled out, then let's call it what we think it is.

The truly pressing item here is AURUM for anything other than vanity items. We don't need to let anyone buy items that appear "magically" that help them have an in game advantage.

AURUM for vanity items only!

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:53:00 - [4392]
 

Originally by: Chogon Toil
What I'm ok with:
AUR / ISK for in-game benefits: $50 for a full set of +6 implants? Cool. X Aur / Isk for +x% damage implant? Cool. Slightly better ships, alright, fine. Better ammo? Fine. Etc. If the benefits are minor and not huge and reasonable in price (a minimum wage worker in any country could afford a few of such items a month).


I do hope you are not serious. All of these things break the sandbox.

Marcus Vorenius
Caldari
Task Force 42
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:54:00 - [4393]
 

Originally by: Ancyker
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Ancyker
So I was on massively and they had a link to the now infamous newsletter, which I thought I had already read on evenews24.

But it said something about "missing pages". This peaked my interest so I downloaded it to compare to the first one. There are actually 20 pages in total in the original. It's pretty much the same thing, it appears the pages themselves were not edited, but pages were removed which dropped the context of the remaining pages. So while I'm still upset at those individuals my anger towards CCP as a whole has diminished.

The most notable line is:

DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP.

Though it still upsets me that certain individuals at CCP think as outlined in the PDF, I do feel a little better with that simple paragraph. It definitely opens the door for them to fix it, where before I didn't see a chance in hell of that happening.

Compare them for yourself:
EVENews24.com Version
Original Version

The tldr difference is basically this is just asking people within CCP their opinions on the matter and doesn't actually represent any actual plans. I still want confirmation in writing and signed by the CEO himself before I believe anything that CCP says, but I'm a bit less ragequit-y now.

While this doesn't restore my trust/faith in CCP, it damages what little I had to start with in evenews24. Ok, well, I never actually trusted evenews24 at all, but now I definitely won't ever trust them :P


you could have saved some time by just reading the links in the second post in this thread - CCP Pann has confirmed the newsletter. FFS browse a little before posting.

The newsletter is real, the one most of us seen (the one on evenews24) was edited. The one on massively (originally hosted by megaupload, ew, now mirrored by me and linked in my reply) was edited. Pages were removed taking the remaining pages out of context. Read moar.


The disclaimer is mentioned in multiple threads - yesterdays news. Make up your own mind.

Zinyai
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:54:00 - [4394]
 

Originally by: Erinni Tisifone
MT is ..... Money Trading??? MT is against the EULA!!! ;)


Moron.

Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr
Iure Divino
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:55:00 - [4395]
 

Originally by: Xavier Novae
Originally by: Algathas
"DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP."

Yeah, sure you can say that but lets analyze this for a moment:

The personal views of the leaders of a company *are* the views of the company, as those leaders will impress those views on their subordinates and push for that direction. Plus using "personal view"/"individual opinion" and "Internal information"/"Trade secret" in the same sentence kindof clashes don't you think?




Phew.. thanks.. you saved me some typing.

Views of higher ups at ccp = views of ccp.


And to add to that, the whole newsletter is filled with plenty of pro-microtransaction BS even without the Touborg-Turbefield debate.

Da Gooch
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:55:00 - [4396]
 

Originally by: Chogon Toil
Edited by: Chogon Toil on 24/06/2011 15:50:35
Originally by: Da Gooch
Can all the idiots supporting any form of boost to the sandbox through MT's shut the hell up now, you are not helping @ all, now gtfo out of this thread.


So if we don't agree with you and those you agree with our points are invalid? How does that work?


What are you on about?? do you want eve to sell skillpoints in the future? really?

Don't give me the whole, well we have character selling crap. there is a huge difference, 1 being a form of higher purchase.
Not many people can go out and just buy a 96mil sp character, as it costs so much rl money.
Let that same person have an option to buy skillpoints, oh look i can buy 10mill a week.
Then a game that takes over 22years or whatever to learn everything and is the fundamental part which keeps so many addicted to the game, is reduced to a much shorter period to those willing to spend a chunk of there rl cash on it each week. see the ripple effect yet? good

and for the record, mostly all the main points brought up in this entire thread i agree with, 1 or 2 *******s jabbering on about yes +6 implants and faction ammo are good in my books, no just ****ing no, and you sir can go **** yourself if you think they deserve there voice to be heard.

Mitchello
B O R G
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:55:00 - [4397]
 

Edited by: Mitchello on 24/06/2011 15:57:22
Originally by: Ancyker
The tldr difference is basically this is just asking people within CCP their opinions on the matter and doesn't actually represent any actual plans. I still want confirmation in writing and signed by the CEO himself before I believe anything that CCP says, but I'm a bit less ragequit-y now.

While this doesn't restore my trust/faith in CCP, it damages what little I had to start with in evenews24. Ok, well, I never actually trusted evenews24 at all, but now I definitely won't ever trust them :P


Originally by: ThirdEyeBlenny

He's not disputing the fact that the newsletter's authentic, you moron, he's disputing claims that have been made with regards to the newsletter representing official policy.



Nice try.


Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto

Hey CCP Abathur, how's that freedom working out for you?



Aside from watching a game I love getting taken down the road to Crazyville, the view is just fine from where I'm sitting. I'm not talking about just Incarna or MT or whatever; I mean the whole package of miscommunication and poor decision making that has taken place in the past week...

I don't envy the task of CCP in the coming days but, in all honesty, they did it to themselves. Nearly everything that's happened in the past 72 hours could have been done better if CCP had taken a different approach to their messaging.

This thread that 'Pann' started... I can understand why it was done, but she's the wrong person for this particular damage control job. I may be a year removed but I still know how CCP as a corporate culture functions and that there is no such divide as she is trying to suggest from company intentions and even policies. I've got half a dozen old Fearless newsletters that read just like this new one and I've seen first hand what happens when the forums catch fire.

This, however, surpasses anything I've seen previously from either side (players or devs). Too many mixed messages and bad ideas have happened all at once and it's created a perfect storm for people to rage about any and everything. It's all I can do to even keep up with the threads, but I'm trying to read as much as I can so I can keep a measure of how the winds are blowing.

I'm going to start a thread on the CSM forums specifically aimed at this 'new effort' and ask how we can 'help' if only to see who responds and what they have to say. If CCP wants to drive on without using the CSM for the purposes they said they wanted to time and again... well, I'll certainly keep everyone updated as best I can.


http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.com/2011/06/good-morning-ccp.html

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:55:00 - [4398]
 

Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 24/06/2011 15:57:53
Originally by: Jonny Foreigner
Am loving the Hypocrisy of:

"I'm protesting in game advantage for money by cancelling my multiple account"

You do realise that multiple accounts is an in game advantage that you pay for?


Hypocrisy? Are you really that blind? Here, let me explain it for you:

- Blueprints are seeded on the market for ISK. You need a POS and fuel to research it. You need to mine materials to build it. Then you have a product ready for invention or ready to be used in LP store's blueprints as a base item for production of the faction mods.

Parties involved:
- Blueprint researchers
- Manufacturers
- Planetary Interaction (POS modules and fuel)
- Ice miners (POS fuels)
- Highsec ore miners (low-end T1 materials)
- 0.0/Wormhole miners (high-end T1 materials + Morphite)
- Mission runners (LP store for faction mods)
- Inventors

Now fast forward to MT system:

- Blueprints for things that have alternatives in the existing production lines are seeded on NEX for cash.
* Blueprint researchers get screwed (not profitable to research) >>> Planetary Interaction get screwed (BP researchers don't consume POS modules and fuel)... hell even DUST get screwed even before it goes live (no initiative to set up or fight for a useless PI colony) >>> Ice miners get screwed (ice fuel lost a POS market) >>> Inventors get screwed and datacore market collapses >>> exploration get screwed (data interfaces are made from COSMOS/exploration materials)

Depending on the quality and performance of the MT item:
Mission runners get screwed (LP store item prices failscade)

If you seed a whole module/ship in the store you'll kill ore miners and manufacturers and collapse the whole economy too.

It's not about what you can get for cash or with multiple accounts... it's about destroying every single industrial profession in EVE with one MT swing. You need effort to maintain multiple accounts, you need planning, spreadsheets, calculations, observation of the market, hauling/logistics, business agreements with miners, your own POS,... (the list goes on and on) to be able to use those accounts in their full capacity and it actually boosts the economy and helps out those who are playing a different type of the game. With MT in place, one can be just another rich bastard with no life that will conveniently cash out his "production line" with no effort at all while selfishly monopolizing production to the point where other players find it unprofitable or not fun to engage in any of the industrial activities.

Please tell me that those two things are the same.


Nalren
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:55:00 - [4399]
 

Good on you for coming forward with something, though somewhat delayed. Like others, I'm waiting for the devblog. At this point we need changes/fixes more than rhetoric, imo.

A quick point - I've heard this sentiment more than once: the amount of time and resources spent on this content has irritated many longtime players, as it could have been spent fixing or improving existing content. POS security, hybrid gun buffs... hell, anything.

Instead we can shuffle our feet around a small studio apartment attached to a meaningless hallway and spend insane cash on clothes and eye patches. Is it any wonder the player base is annoyed?

I don't mean to be rude, that's not my intent here - it's just that this content set wasn't really likely to appeal to the majority of your player base; it's not really involved with playing the actual game. The performance issues just add injury to insult.

Zanetia
Gallente
The Interstellar Lunatic Asylum
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:56:00 - [4400]
 

Originally by: Algathas
"DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP."

Yeah, sure you can say that but lets analyze this for a moment:

The personal views of the leaders of a company *are* the views of the company, as those leaders will impress those views on their subordinates and push for that direction. Plus using "personal view"/"individual opinion" and "Internal information"/"Trade secret" in the same sentence kindof clashes don't you think?



Yeah, I'm not quite understanding how an employee's personal opinion can be considered confidential and a trade secret of the company?

Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:56:00 - [4401]
 

Originally by: Xavier Novae
Originally by: Algathas
"DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP."

Yeah, sure you can say that but lets analyze this for a moment:

The personal views of the leaders of a company *are* the views of the company, as those leaders will impress those views on their subordinates and push for that direction. Plus using "personal view"/"individual opinion" and "Internal information"/"Trade secret" in the same sentence kindof clashes don't you think?




Phew.. thanks.. you saved me some typing.

Views of higher ups at ccp = views of ccp.


Wrong. Remember CCP is not only EVE. On EVE itself the Lead Designer is a quite HIGH up in the scale of how things go and where they go. Not by any stretch of imagination absolute, but by a lot.. meaningful.

Valari Nala Zena
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:57:00 - [4402]
 

People who cancel their subscriptions will just pick it up again while their account is running out.

I'm sure CCP is making lots of profit selling vanity items, way more than the few who unsub for real.

Futile Rhetoric
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:57:00 - [4403]
 

Oh man, the guy who thinks a proforma disclaimer somehow changes anything is hilarious. Do you really believe that? Because if so, there's this jump bridge you might be interested in buying...

Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:57:00 - [4404]
 

Originally by: Ancyker
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Ancyker
So I was on massively and they had a link to the now infamous newsletter, which I thought I had already read on evenews24.

But it said something about "missing pages". This peaked my interest so I downloaded it to compare to the first one. There are actually 20 pages in total in the original. It's pretty much the same thing, it appears the pages themselves were not edited, but pages were removed which dropped the context of the remaining pages. So while I'm still upset at those individuals my anger towards CCP as a whole has diminished.

The most notable line is:

DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP.

Though it still upsets me that certain individuals at CCP think as outlined in the PDF, I do feel a little better with that simple paragraph. It definitely opens the door for them to fix it, where before I didn't see a chance in hell of that happening.

Compare them for yourself:
EVENews24.com Version
Original Version

The tldr difference is basically this is just asking people within CCP their opinions on the matter and doesn't actually represent any actual plans. I still want confirmation in writing and signed by the CEO himself before I believe anything that CCP says, but I'm a bit less ragequit-y now.

While this doesn't restore my trust/faith in CCP, it damages what little I had to start with in evenews24. Ok, well, I never actually trusted evenews24 at all, but now I definitely won't ever trust them :P


you could have saved some time by just reading the links in the second post in this thread - CCP Pann has confirmed the newsletter. FFS browse a little before posting.

The newsletter is real, the one most of us seen (the one on evenews24) was edited. The one on massively (originally hosted by megaupload, ew, now mirrored by me and linked in my reply) was edited. Pages were removed taking the remaining pages out of context. Read moar.


http://www.failheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?p=121462#p121462
You're about 24 hours late, chief.

Originally by: Adam Reed
A note of caution: in the newsletter, the main EVE-affecting section was obviously written up as a 'For' and 'Against', with Touborg on one side in favour of non-vanity MTs, and Turbefield on the other against them. While I agree it's hugely dissatisfying to think they're actually considering it, there's little point in crucifying all of CCP because one guy was asked to write the 'For' side of an argument in a newsletter - to essentially simply state his own personal opinion.

If they come out and say they want to introduce it, fine, I quit too. But if they come out and say it's just one guy's opinion and there are no plans to implement it, don't be in any way surprised.


That "one guy" is the lead game designer for EVE Online. And read the rest of the newsletter too. This stuff is coming, maybe within 6 months, certainly within the year.

Anything else is a sucker's bet.

Morar Santee
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:57:00 - [4405]
 

Originally by: Sarina Berghil
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Nikodiemus
FRIENDS! There is a reason for this horrible incident and lack of communication and salesmanship.

CCP Hiring New Chief Marketing Officer

Someone should apply since CSM is obviously bull**** and kill the lies from within.


Was there a Chief Marketing Officer before? Normally Sales & Marketing reports to the CFO - this just proves that CCP new business plan is already being implemented ... or that they realised the current CFO is an incompetent money grabbing coward.


I couldn't help to notice this little snip from the job details:

Quote:

... leading thought innovation in marketing to the point of inspiring development rather than be framed by it.


Actually, I found this part more interesting:
Quote:

- Ability to understand our product and services which includes:

-> in MMO’s / video games is a positive, but not required

Says it all.

Monsieur Rigolo
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:57:00 - [4406]
 

Account cancelled. Incarna is the worst expansion i've seen in 5 years.
I'll come back in a few months to check the direction EVE Online is moving into.

fly safe CCP


Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:58:00 - [4407]
 

I smell ALTernative damage control team posting smallprint to this thread and all they really said was LALALALALA



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Felo Maxun
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:58:00 - [4408]
 

CCP ZULU is writing words I hear http://twitter.com/#!/ArnarHrafn

Go easy on him guys, although he is the man, he is also in part just a messenger for the company.

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:58:00 - [4409]
 

Good to see CCP dug up CCP Pann, that brings back memories.

While the expansion was a big empty fail, the forums certainly have been a blast the last day. Laughing

Off to shoot some noobs in the face in TF2... a game that DOES understand how MT works.

Jefferson H Clay
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:59:00 - [4410]
 

Originally by: ThirdEyeBlenny

He's not disputing the fact that the newsletter's authentic, you moron, he's disputing claims that have been made with regards to the newsletter representing official policy.



We've moved beyond it being representative of official policy. I'll cover this one.
A year ago CCP said no MT in EVE ever.
We have MT in EVE.
We all thought MT would mean MICRO... we were all annoyed to discover we were wrong.

The newsletter, whilst being an opinion/discussion piece is the, apparent, opinion of the lead designer of this very game. We are described in terms that are... unsavory.

It has been pointed out by ex-employees and others that quite often what is featured in this newsletter comes to pass.


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