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Limited Knowledge
Posted - 2011.06.23 13:39:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Moved from General Discussion.

All feature requests and ideas belong in this section.


Here is an idea Navigator. Go **** yourself.



Darht Navigator didn't got it:
It's trolling, not a suggestion

Republica Winder
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.23 13:39:00 - [32]
 

Coming soon:

Titan (any race), 1,000,000 Aurum

Markis Silvairi
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.06.23 13:41:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Markis Silvairi
I just spent the better part of a year getting my other toon into a cap and it's supposed to suddenly be cool for someone just starting the game to bust out the CC and do it out of the gate? I think not.

I couldn't care less if a new player has 30 million SP, why should I care?


If you don't care then why bother posting at all? Not that I care about your opinion anymore..

Katra Novac
Posted - 2011.06.23 13:47:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Katra Novac on 23/06/2011 13:47:08
Originally by: Nullity
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Markis Silvairi
I just spent the better part of a year getting my other toon into a cap and it's supposed to suddenly be cool for someone just starting the game to bust out the CC and do it out of the gate? I think not.

I couldn't care less if a new player has 30 million SP, why should I care?


It devalues time spent in the game.


Sounds like they're just trying to turn the game into some instant pew-pew game.

SP for cash will certainly change the game from what it was to something different.

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.06.23 13:50:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Limited Knowledge
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Moved from General Discussion.

All feature requests and ideas belong in this section.


Here is an idea Navigator. Go **** yourself.



Darht Navigator didn't got it:
It's trolling, not a suggestion


New way to make money = suggestion!

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.06.23 13:53:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 23/06/2011 14:09:25
Originally by: Nullity
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Markis Silvairi
I just spent the better part of a year getting my other toon into a cap and it's supposed to suddenly be cool for someone just starting the game to bust out the CC and do it out of the gate? I think not.

I couldn't care less if a new player has 30 million SP, why should I care?


It devalues time spent in the game.

You mean money spent on paying subscription? Why should I care?

I come from guildwars, you can have a max character in no time and even all classes and subclasses. What's important is your teamplay, tactics, knowledge of the game and personal player skills. Maximum versatility to learn things and try things out. Not crippled by silly artificial SP to do anything or silly gear stuff.

One of the best things I've seen thus far in a mmo.
EVE is quite the opposite.

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:10:00 - [37]
 

If CCP did some thing where the prices scaled up as you got more SP, I could actually see this being a halfway decent idea. Spend a bunch of plex to get up enough skills to be competent, but after that it's more efficient to wait it out.

Also, at this point I don't think this would be a huge step back since we're going all new-player friendly again, and hell EVE is already ruined by the Aurum store so why not make the most of it.

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:15:00 - [38]
 

How about renaming systems for AUR? I'd like to rename Jita "Dorksville" or something else incredibly immature and immersion-breaking. :thumbup:

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:26:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Gypsio III on 23/06/2011 14:26:29
so good i posted it twice. Cool

Radik Kalhar
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:39:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Shyrke
If you add skill points packages to the shop, we will be able to construct our own characters without the need to spend time on skilling them. Of course, since that is pretty big convenience, raw skillpoints should be adequately expensive.

You could also offer time-shortening packages, like other games do, for example "double-skilling-speed for a week", or even VIP item "up the skill a level".

Raw skill points would be best option though, as most people would fall into the trap of spending them on all the unnecessary skills and they would soon need to buy more, which means more money for ccp : )




How about you grow another neuron and rub them together? The resulting synape my que you in to how terrible of an idea that is.

Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:06:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 23/06/2011 14:09:25
Originally by: Nullity
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Markis Silvairi
I just spent the better part of a year getting my other toon into a cap and it's supposed to suddenly be cool for someone just starting the game to bust out the CC and do it out of the gate? I think not.

I couldn't care less if a new player has 30 million SP, why should I care?


It devalues time spent in the game.

You mean money spent on paying subscription? Why should I care?

I come from guildwars, you can have a max character in no time and even all classes and subclasses. What's important is your teamplay, tactics, knowledge of the game and personal player skills. Maximum versatility to learn things and try things out. Not crippled by silly artificial SP to do anything or silly gear stuff.

One of the best things I've seen thus far in a mmo.
EVE is quite the opposite.



This isn't a game that failed 8 years ago like guildwars, ***got. This is Eve, a game we care about, and the things being done to the game now are NOT what made this game last the past 8 years.

Dryll Namarra
Posted - 2011.06.24 13:19:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Dryll Namarra on 24/06/2011 13:19:40
most destructible players of mmos, are the one who want to get anything fast and easy without any problems or restrictions, intended for more comfort only - infamously and destrcutable this development of player base in mmo games.

circumvents. pointless and the ruin of realtime-/offline-skilling, especially for SP per Aurum, Plex, GTC or ISK.

sometimes, only sometimes it is heavily to decide between pure joke and epic fail in special play environments.




Fakespace
Posted - 2011.06.24 14:17:00 - [43]
 


NOOOOO

Buying skillpoints out-right would just be too much...

However, buying a "name-change/corp history reset" and/or a "reset of your skillpoints" is something that will probably come sooner or later, thus you will get something like this to some extend anyway (unfortuanly, just beeing realistic here)



Emiko Luan
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.24 14:35:00 - [44]
 

No.

Also Guild Wars is still going strong (and GW2 is going to be amazing), it's different ofcourse, though there is some merit in pvp games being focused on the pvp...fact is you can be competent in eve skillwise, within a month if you specialise. You won't have that player skill to fight properly before then anyway so what's the problem.


Beck Thomson
San Joaquin Navy
US Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 14:38:00 - [45]
 

Unless it's $1 per 1 skill point,

NO.

Jail Baiter
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:11:00 - [46]
 


No, just no.

It goes against the whole point of the game, to develop your character.





shadowace00007
Amarr
Beyond The Gates
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:22:00 - [47]
 

Look its another way to destroy a game! HOW FUN!!!





No.

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:35:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Barbara Nichole on 24/06/2011 19:26:18

if you devalue money by printing more of it and having more currency in use, than you also devalue characters by "printing" more of those.. this is a dumb idea.

Right now old characters can only be purchase for in game isk, making them accessable to players who aren't paying real cash for access to higher level content in game.

Doing what you're suggesting changes that in a fundimental way.
I'll say it again, this is a dumb idea.



Selyna Ferenzcy
Posted - 2011.06.25 00:48:00 - [49]
 

Please do not do this. I can't think of a worse idea. Seriously. If I need to write an essay on all the ways this would destroy EVE, I will.

Onyx Nightshine
Pro Lucror
Posted - 2011.06.25 01:14:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Onyx Nightshine on 25/06/2011 01:18:53
there is only one time where i would support SP for plex, and that is to allow people who wish to spend a bucket of aur on their new character to do so.

meaning, any account with a char that has over, say, 5mil SP (about the point where, if you assign skills into roughly the right places, you are able to fend for yourself reasonably effectively) would not be able to buy SP.

the only reason id support it, is that it will allow new players to jump into the action a little easier... make sure its not available until 1month after your account becomes full, and you would eliminate the potential exploits generated by "create a trial account, make it full, get gametime, rinse, repeat... spend aur on accounts, intantly have 6 5mil sp chars"

Dark Fairy
Posted - 2011.06.25 01:23:00 - [51]
 

too bad you cant also use aur to buy eve expierence, the slow progression through skills allows people to actually learn how to play. if we let people start buying sp then we will have alot more carrier on gates wondering why they cant use them. and since ccp has an infinate supply of sp to handout it will cap the cheractor trading market and again drive up plex prices.

DuKackBoon
Posted - 2011.06.25 03:42:00 - [52]
 

"Please add Skillpoints packages to Noble EXchange store."

Please add a function that automatically permabans people making suggestions going against the basic principles of EVE. Not that it would matter now anymore tho.

Ploppy McPlop
Posted - 2011.06.25 10:15:00 - [53]
 

I would consider suing CCP in a class-action lawsuit if they started selling advantages in-game. I'm not the only one here who has invested a couple of years of leisure time to make this game a great place, not just for me but also my corp-mates, with help, assistance and encouragement, only for CCP to completely go against their initial principles and pursue financial greed.

Yolo
SmellsOFelderbarry
Posted - 2011.06.25 10:42:00 - [54]
 

I would not mind if you could buy a 25% skilltraining boost for the value of 1 PLEX, duration. 1 month.
This would mean that IF you are willing to pay DOUBLE, you get 25% extra. it will make it impossible for people to max out all the skills in eve in a heartbeat, but it will be what alot of people would be willing to do.

Alternative solution would be to sell some form of Alt Augmentation for the price of a PLEX you can train 1 alt simultaniously as your main, for 2 you can train all three. then again the above would also apply so for a total of 6 times normal subscription you can train all three chars at 125% speed...

Well, I'm old and grumpy and I dont care if people get more skillpoints then me, if they want to burn their money. let them.
Will give CCP more money to spend on development and beer.

Micro Tranactions Rock
Posted - 2011.06.25 10:50:00 - [55]
 

This is the best idea ever, use the store for Vanity items and Skill points, and not for ingame (space) items. This would really complete the game.

you don't have to buy clothing or skillpoints, i don't know why i would ever buy clothing in a spaceship game anyway. But i guess we have some what of a girl playerbase who like some sims elements in the game.

I really hope one day we will be able buy skill points (or items that will convert into skill points) in the Micro Transaction store.

I know a lot of players object to it, saying i played 8 years and now have 150m skillpoints. -And do not want newer players to be able to get there fast.- But why not? If a new player spends as much money on the game in 1 month as you did in 8 years? It is the choice of the new player who is buying the skill points. It is his money which he spends on a hobby!

And if CCP makes more money they might even hire some people to fix-up new space ships like tech III frigs and battleships. (and fix posses and some other bugs that has been around for a few years)

So great idea i hope it gets implemented soon.

Yolo
SmellsOFelderbarry
Posted - 2011.06.25 10:52:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Micro Tranactions Rock
This is the best idea ever, use the store for Vanity items and Skill points, and not for ingame (space) items. This would really complete the game.

you don't have to buy clothing or skillpoints, i don't know why i would ever buy clothing in a spaceship game anyway. But i guess we have some what of a girl playerbase who like some sims elements in the game.

I really hope one day we will be able buy skill points (or items that will convert into skill points) in the Micro Transaction store.

I know a lot of players object to it, saying i played 8 years and now have 150m skillpoints. -And do not want newer players to be able to get there fast.- But why not? If a new player spends as much money on the game in 1 month as you did in 8 years? It is the choice of the new player who is buying the skill points. It is his money which he spends on a hobby!

And if CCP makes more money they might even hire some people to fix-up new space ships like tech III frigs and battleships. (and fix posses and some other bugs that has been around for a few years)

So great idea i hope it gets implemented soon.

I belive the fear for people isnt that some will catch up, its that some rich bastard will max out and then complain about not having skills to train. which would in turn force ccp to make up more skills. then rinse and repeate.

Soon the regular players will be so far behind, it will not even be fun to try for them.

Micro Tranactions Rock
Posted - 2011.06.25 10:58:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Micro Tranactions Rock on 25/06/2011 11:01:40
Originally by: Yolo
Originally by: Micro Tranactions Rock
This is the best idea ever, use the store for Vanity items and Skill points, and not for ingame (space) items. This would really complete the game.

you don't have to buy clothing or skillpoints, i don't know why i would ever buy clothing in a spaceship game anyway. But i guess we have some what of a girl playerbase who like some sims elements in the game.

I really hope one day we will be able buy skill points (or items that will convert into skill points) in the Micro Transaction store.

I know a lot of players object to it, saying i played 8 years and now have 150m skillpoints. -And do not want newer players to be able to get there fast.- But why not? If a new player spends as much money on the game in 1 month as you did in 8 years? It is the choice of the new player who is buying the skill points. It is his money which he spends on a hobby!

And if CCP makes more money they might even hire some people to fix-up new space ships like tech III frigs and battleships. (and fix posses and some other bugs that has been around for a few years)

So great idea i hope it gets implemented soon.

I belive the fear for people isnt that some will catch up, its that some rich bastard will max out and then complain about not having skills to train. which would in turn force ccp to make up more skills. then rinse and repeate.

Soon the regular players will be so far behind, it will not even be fun to try for them.



Exactly the point, new players are so far behind that it is not fun for them, i can't imagine a player with less then 50m skillpoints doing anything which is really fun or rewarding. BUt 50m takes 2 years to train!

Well maybe we should put a cap at 50m skillpoints for buying skills. Then people still have to train the more advanced skills.

And make it expensive like 1 plex for 10 days training time or 500.000 to 250.000 skillpoints or something.

DuKackBoon
Posted - 2011.06.25 11:12:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Micro Tranactions Rock

Exactly the point, new players are so far behind that it is not fun for them, i can't imagine a player with less then 50m skillpoints doing anything which is really fun or rewarding.




Keep trollin' bro. I got 28.9 million SP, and do solo-pvp, small-scale pvp, did fleet PVP, reverse engineering, invention, production, mining... pretty much everything other than flying capitals you can do in EVE. You don't need to ***** up SP in order to do stuff. Specialize, and you can easily compete with some of EVE's elite PVPers who have gunnery and mechanic on all level 5.

Yolo
SmellsOFelderbarry
Posted - 2011.06.25 11:32:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Micro Tranactions Rock

Exactly the point, new players are so far behind that it is not fun for them, i can't imagine a player with less then 50m skillpoints doing anything which is really fun or rewarding. BUt 50m takes 2 years to train!

Well maybe we should put a cap at 50m skillpoints for buying skills. Then people still have to train the more advanced skills.

And make it expensive like 1 plex for 10 days training time or 500.000 to 250.000 skillpoints or something.


All the fun you THINK you can do with 50m SP you will avoid doing because of the price of the CLONE.
When you are new, its ok to go out in a Rifter and tackle and laugh when you die.
For me, losing my pod is over 100m Isk and most of the time more Isk then what alot of people spend on their ship, modules and ammo.

Tbh, to make the game much more enjoyable CCP should scrap the attribute implants (because they are pvp inhibitor since we are all Skillpoint horny and always want them) it would also allow all players to train as quickly as those with alot of Isk.
Second of all, they should before the end of time remove the clone cost. But in the process of balancing the Isk sinks they should completely remove the 40% default insurance.

Micro Tranactions Rock
Posted - 2011.06.25 11:36:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Micro Tranactions Rock on 25/06/2011 11:39:27
Originally by: DuKackBoon
Originally by: Micro Tranactions Rock

Exactly the point, new players are so far behind that it is not fun for them, i can't imagine a player with less then 50m skillpoints doing anything which is really fun or rewarding.




Keep trollin' bro. I got 28.9 million SP, and do solo-pvp, small-scale pvp, did fleet PVP, reverse engineering, invention, production, mining... pretty much everything other than flying capitals you can do in EVE. You don't need to ***** up SP in order to do stuff. Specialize, and you can easily compete with some of EVE's elite PVPers who have gunnery and mechanic on all level 5.


Lol, nice sarcastic one,

Indeed, if you don't have the "very basic" skills atleast at 5 you can't do anything. Older players will always have an edge over you. And thinking that it is elite to have gunnery and mechanics all on 5 is not enough you really need a spaceship skills, navigation skills, electronic skills, at 5 to properly fly and fitt ships! So indeed we need the new players to buy some skills so that the basic, certificates are met.

Wait that is a great idea, please sell basic certificates in the Micro Transaction store! Very Happy


@Yolo Indeed 50m or 100m is nothing for new players, they can just buy plex and sell them on market for isk. Very Happy


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