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Maverick2011
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.16 19:23:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Shintai
Unfortunately such things basicly never happens. So I voted with my wallet.


I'm about to do that. Getting tired of the game anyway. Its basically a waiting game till skills are complete and then poof 5 seconds of joy and train something else in a never ending cycle. CCP is worried about putting fluff to milk players more than putting new ships, new missions, etc.

Maybe this month ill just let the subscription on hold and wait for star wars or play age of conan "for free".

Mr Dilkington
Posted - 2011.07.16 19:31:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Maverick2011
Originally by: Shintai
Unfortunately such things basicly never happens. So I voted with my wallet.


I'm about to do that. Getting tired of the game anyway. Its basically a waiting game till skills are complete and then poof 5 seconds of joy and train something else in a never ending cycle. CCP is worried about putting fluff to milk players more than putting new ships, new missions, etc.

Maybe this month ill just let the subscription on hold and wait for star wars or play age of conan "for free".


Your doing it wrong, you are allowed to play while your skills are training you know.

Hawk Firestorm
Posted - 2011.07.16 19:32:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: Hawk Firestorm on 16/07/2011 19:38:46
Eve2 anyone?

But seriously ask how many find it more fun messing around on the Test server than the live one then get CCP to understand why.

Maverick2011
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.16 19:42:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Mr Dilkington
Originally by: Maverick2011
Originally by: Shintai
Unfortunately such things basicly never happens. So I voted with my wallet.


I'm about to do that. Getting tired of the game anyway. Its basically a waiting game till skills are complete and then poof 5 seconds of joy and train something else in a never ending cycle. CCP is worried about putting fluff to milk players more than putting new ships, new missions, etc.

Maybe this month ill just let the subscription on hold and wait for star wars or play age of conan "for free".


Your doing it wrong, you are allowed to play while your skills are training you know.



Tell me more about it, i thought i was locked inside a station forever!!! Thanks for the tip man!!!

FatRaps
Posted - 2011.07.16 19:47:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Maverick2011
Originally by: Mr Dilkington
Originally by: Maverick2011
Originally by: Shintai
Unfortunately such things basicly never happens. So I voted with my wallet.


I'm about to do that. Getting tired of the game anyway. Its basically a waiting game till skills are complete and then poof 5 seconds of joy and train something else in a never ending cycle. CCP is worried about putting fluff to milk players more than putting new ships, new missions, etc.

Maybe this month ill just let the subscription on hold and wait for star wars or play age of conan "for free".


Your doing it wrong, you are allowed to play while your skills are training you know.



Tell me more about it, i thought i was locked inside a station forever!!! Thanks for the tip man!!!


Try World of Warcraft matey, is alot more simple and you can mine.

Garreth Vlox
Minmatar
Obsidian Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.16 19:55:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Allant Doran
Incarna, so far, has been less buggy for me personally than the past 3 expansions have been. So far i'd say, way to go CCP, you're getting the hang of cleaner patches.


i think he mentioned posts like this in bullet point 6

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2011.07.16 21:42:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Allant Doran
Incarna, so far, has been less buggy for me personally than the past 3 expansions have been. So far i'd say, way to go CCP, you're getting the hang of cleaner patches.
How many emergency reboots have there been so far?

OHU812
Posted - 2011.07.17 05:08:00 - [68]
 

Lost count after 4....

Anywhoo... the fire side today gave me the information I needed. I've set one character for biomass tonight. The others are soon to follow.

Not going to wait for the winter fail expansion. Besides, I'm tired of waiting for CCP to remove their upper appendage from their lower oriface.

I've tried many MMOs recently but nothing that would come close to what attracted me to EVE. However with the continued failures and blantant disrespect by CCP towards their players has inspired me to make what I consider the ultimate step to walking away and not returning. BIOMASS

Seriously... deleting my toons will be hard. Not sure why other than they seem a part of me now. But like everything else, all things must end. What ended today is my nearly 5 year love affair with EVE.

Hope all you noob barbie phags have fun with your dresses and makeup. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs and allow all of you to have tea and talk about the great new clothes in the NEX soon enough.

Gotta allow all of their resources to finish up on DUST and that other dumb game before they give you too many options so be patient please.

PVP will become second seat to pink ponies and barbie outfits in space.

LOL.... it was a good run. I'll admit with sadness it has indeed been a good run.

AND,

No.. you can not haz my stuff. When I delete my characters, ships and all will also leave the game.

Farewell to all who understand.

For you who don't understand along with the CCP alts who's been posting in the forums all I can say is... job well done. Neither of you will see it coming.

Think I'll go back to making birdhouses and handing them out to local schools again. Gotta find something to fill some extra time.

Oh yeah... I'm a guy that has a lot of free time on his hands. Fact is... injuries left me in a bed then wheelchair for several months about 5 years ago, tis how I found EVE in the first place. Looking for something to do.

I suppose that is why I have so much passion for EVE. EVE has been plugging right along with me through a couple of troubling times in RL. Again... it's been a good run.

*CCP - Enjoyed the game and ride while it lasted. I'll get off here thank you.

*CCP - Didn't appreciate how you approached customer care or dealing with a customer with problems.

To all the podmen I sent home via express route. Thanks for the fun.

To all my corp buddies and alliance mates, farewell!

To... STFU and leave already. Just a few more days of posts from me and I'll be out. Account runs out. Very Happy

PVPrs Come get your barbie dolls!

Important Person
Posted - 2011.07.17 05:15:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: OHU812
Lost count after 4....

Anywhoo... the fire side today gave me the information I needed. I've set one character for biomass tonight. The others are soon to follow.

Not going to wait for the winter fail expansion. Besides, I'm tired of waiting for CCP to remove their upper appendage from their lower oriface.

I've tried many MMOs recently but nothing that would come close to what attracted me to EVE. However with the continued failures and blantant disrespect by CCP towards their players has inspired me to make what I consider the ultimate step to walking away and not returning. BIOMASS

Seriously... deleting my toons will be hard. Not sure why other than they seem a part of me now. But like everything else, all things must end. What ended today is my nearly 5 year love affair with EVE.

Hope all you noob barbie phags have fun with your dresses and makeup. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs and allow all of you to have tea and talk about the great new clothes in the NEX soon enough.

Gotta allow all of their resources to finish up on DUST and that other dumb game before they give you too many options so be patient please.

PVP will become second seat to pink ponies and barbie outfits in space.

LOL.... it was a good run. I'll admit with sadness it has indeed been a good run.

AND,

No.. you can not haz my stuff. When I delete my characters, ships and all will also leave the game.

Farewell to all who understand.

For you who don't understand along with the CCP alts who's been posting in the forums all I can say is... job well done. Neither of you will see it coming.

Think I'll go back to making birdhouses and handing them out to local schools again. Gotta find something to fill some extra time.

Oh yeah... I'm a guy that has a lot of free time on his hands. Fact is... injuries left me in a bed then wheelchair for several months about 5 years ago, tis how I found EVE in the first place. Looking for something to do.

I suppose that is why I have so much passion for EVE. EVE has been plugging right along with me through a couple of troubling times in RL. Again... it's been a good run.

*CCP - Enjoyed the game and ride while it lasted. I'll get off here thank you.

*CCP - Didn't appreciate how you approached customer care or dealing with a customer with problems.

To all the podmen I sent home via express route. Thanks for the fun.

To all my corp buddies and alliance mates, farewell!

To... STFU and leave already. Just a few more days of posts from me and I'll be out. Account runs out. Very Happy

PVPrs Come get your barbie dolls!



YOR STUFFZ I CAN HAZ??

OHU812
Posted - 2011.07.17 05:20:00 - [70]
 

No.. you can not haz my stuff. When I delete my characters, ships and all will also leave the game.


^You must have missed this. ^

Thanks for showing me EVE's future though.

Mama Carebear
Posted - 2011.07.17 10:56:00 - [71]
 

Being bought by Sony will be a big improvement

Cerysse D'nari
Posted - 2011.07.17 11:00:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Mama Carebear
Being bought by Sony will be a big improvement


Perhaps for the first year or two, then they would make ridiculous changes that ruin everything people liked about the game simply because the devs (who don't actually play the game) blindly believe they know better than the players. Sad

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.07.17 11:02:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Cerysse D'nari
Originally by: Mama Carebear
Being bought by Sony will be a big improvement


Perhaps for the first year or two, then they would make ridiculous changes that ruin everything people liked about the game simply because the devs (who don't actually play the game) blindly believe they know better than the players. Sad

Isn't this what's happening right now?

Kai'il Bhaal
Posted - 2011.07.17 11:06:00 - [74]
 

Oh look, another circlejerk whine thread.

P42ALPHA
Gallente
Epidemic.
THE D0MINION
Posted - 2011.07.17 11:57:00 - [75]
 

LOL, for real. Just roll back incarna/crap.

And as for firing the marketing guy. Hell ya, I logged on to steam the other day, for the first time in a while. What I saw of Eve was for sure barbie dolls in space. Very saddening. If I were a first time eve player and based my opinion on wether or not to by the game, would be based on a existant or non-exsistant back ground in playing Second life, or Sims. Not flying a internet space ship.

Really ccp? Really?

Caldari Acolyte
Posted - 2011.07.17 12:02:00 - [76]
 

Thread needs moar Monocule.

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2011.07.17 12:16:00 - [77]
 

The first thing they should do is perma-ban dullards like the OP.
1. Already is optional, just lost the hangar. No one is forcing you to buy crap.
2. Yes, I too want to dust off my credit card to play Eve, don't have near enough expenses in RL as it is! (Plex = MT in case you didn't know).
3. Huh? What on earth for? They were bland to put it mildly and the options removed are being added (too slowly but added nonetheless).
4. Define adequate. My guess is that no matter how much they allocated to spaceships some would always want more (myself included) .. but I know enough of how crap works to say periods of horizontal expansion are good once in a while.
5. Ban AkJon Ferguson. Wow, this **** is easy!
6. I am an alt, my main is also an alt and we are both Russian bots operated in China by a Goon/BoB chapter (PS: your tinfoil needs refreshing).
7. Goes back further than that really. Then again if "we" got to decide Eve would have 50k subs and look like a 8-bit game in a HD world (nostalgia is fine but not as a rule-of-law).
8. "Lol" what? For that to be even remotely unbiased Mynx would have to quit the game entirely and have the same kind of access to all player communications .. power corrupts, absolute po......

CCP are asking for no such thing. They do however offer to take your money and provide a world that entertains you .. much like a movie theatre or a concert does.
If you are that discontent then quit, simple. Put your wallet where your mouth is and stop moaning .. Eve withdrawal may be harsh but it is survivable .

Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.17 19:42:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
1. Make incarna completely optional.

2. Remove microtransactions completely from non-incarna gameplay.

3. Give people the option to have their old avatars back.

4. Spend adequate resources on Internet Spaceships.

5. Fire soundwave and the marketing guy.

6. Make it clear to all CCP employees that if they post on forums on one of their alts in defense of CCP, they will be fired.

7. Apologize to the last CSM, who warned you well ahead of time exactly what would happen if you do what you did and did everything in their power to prevent it.

8. Hire Mynxee as your Chief Ethics Officer and give her access to all internal communications and the power to make them public if she considers their contents to contradict your public positions or to be against the interests of the playerbase.

CCP asks its players to invest a significant amount of time/resources to its game. On top of that we pay for everything at CCP. They owe us gratitude, honesty, and improved gameplay over time.

They're 0 for 3 so far.

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
The first thing they should do is perma-ban dullards like the OP.
1. Already is optional, just lost the hangar. No one is forcing you to buy crap.
2. Yes, I too want to dust off my credit card to play Eve, don't have near enough expenses in RL as it is! (Plex = MT in case you didn't know).
3. Huh? What on earth for? They were bland to put it mildly and the options removed are being added (too slowly but added nonetheless).
4. Define adequate. My guess is that no matter how much they allocated to spaceships some would always want more (myself included) .. but I know enough of how crap works to say periods of horizontal expansion are good once in a while.
5. Ban AkJon Ferguson. Wow, this **** is easy!
6. I am an alt, my main is also an alt and we are both Russian bots operated in China by a Goon/BoB chapter (PS: your tinfoil needs refreshing).
7. Goes back further than that really. Then again if "we" got to decide Eve would have 50k subs and look like a 8-bit game in a HD world (nostalgia is fine but not as a rule-of-law).
8. "Lol" what? For that to be even remotely unbiased Mynx would have to quit the game entirely and have the same kind of access to all player communications .. power corrupts, absolute po......

CCP are asking for no such thing. They do however offer to take your money and provide a world that entertains you .. much like a movie theatre or a concert does.
If you are that discontent then quit, simple. Put your wallet where your mouth is and stop moaning .. Eve withdrawal may be harsh but it is survivable .

1. It's only optional temporarily. Please keep up.

2. Fair point, I should have said Remove microtransactions (other than PLEX) completely from non-Incarna gameplay.

3. Because lots of people prefer their old avatars, have had them for many years and were 'invested' in them and because giving them that option has no cost. It would also be a way of telling at a glance if a player is more interested in Internet Spaceships or Space Barbies.

4. When you have no leg to stand on in a debate, try to make the argument about the definition of terms. Only a troll or a dev alt would argue that a game as profitable and broken (after 8 years) as EVE (Internet Spaceships) is currently receiving sufficient development resources.

5. If I bot or hack their server or Monkeysphere my client, they should indeed ban me. They should hold my behavior to a reasonable standard. And they should hold their own behavior to a reasonable standard. They do little of the former and none of the latter.

6. Are you naive enough to believe that there aren't any dev alts posting/trolling forums to try to manipulate public opinion and mislead players?

7. CSM V best CSM. They cared about the game (not just their own interests within the game,) worked hard, and called bull**** on Hilmar, which is their job.

8. Mynxee did quit. I withdrew this one anyway.

Equinox II
APEX ARDENT COALITION
Posted - 2011.07.17 21:11:00 - [79]
 

Eve is dying?


Max Keitt Keitt
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.07.17 21:19:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Max Keitt Keitt on 17/07/2011 21:26:51
So long as the mt stay vanity items only, I'm fine with it. As a matter of fact, if the vanity items can be destroyed I'm more than fine with it.

I would love to blow up someone's real money.

Edit: Also, Incarna does nothing for me. Wish they would have done something else with their resources.

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.07.17 21:21:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Caldari Acolyte
Thread needs moar Monocule.


OK.

Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.24 23:24:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Max Keitt Keitt
Edited by: Max Keitt Keitt on 17/07/2011 21:26:51
So long as the mt stay vanity items only, I'm fine with it. As a matter of fact, if the vanity items can be destroyed I'm more than fine with it.

I would love to blow up someone's real money.

Edit: Also, Incarna does nothing for me. Wish they would have done something else with their resources.


But the mt aren't staying vanity-only and the vanity items can't be destroyed when worn.

Keep up.

JC Ferguson
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.07.29 03:01:00 - [83]
 

Meanwhile, Touborg is getting drunk on the plane on the way to EVE Vegas. (I guess he learned his shtick from Alex.)

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.29 03:03:00 - [84]
 

Posting in yet-another Turd Ferguson thread, and still awaiting your stuff.

Don't forget me baby!

Zleon Leigh
Posted - 2011.07.29 04:28:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: OHU812
No.. you can not haz my stuff. When I delete my characters, ships and all will also leave the game.


^You must have missed this. ^

Thanks for showing me EVE's future though.


Whadda ya know - CCP did conjure another isk sink to offset aw-run...

Variel Casaubon
Posted - 2011.07.29 05:11:00 - [86]
 

Edited by: Variel Casaubon on 29/07/2011 05:16:05
Considering that this game came out a very long time ago, it has to upgrade its graphics every now and again in order to stay interesting in the world of games that are constantly moving forward. They have to intrigue customers some how.

If your computer crashes because of the CQ then perhaps you should either upgrade or move to an older game. If your computer can play recent games that came out this year, then it should have no problem with the CQ. They are giving you ample amount of time to gather $500-$800 for a new PC by giving you the option to turn off the CQ in the mean time (should you be unable to run it).

As for old content? Things change. You wouldn't use your old Nokia with the classical music ring tone today would you? They are simply making this mandatory in order to remove the need to support old content. Microsoft does it all the time. New Windows? New drivers.

As for NON-VANITY micro transactions. Why can't people understand that they have been in the game for several years! Why exactly are you just now getting all up in arms about it?

You do know of such a thing called PLEX right? Neutral I pay $15 and in return I get ~400 mill ISK. I can then either use that ISK to buy a ship or a character with better skills from someone else. Granted you may need some more real life currency to buy a worthwhile character from someone, but from what we've seen from the monocles, buying skills wont be cheap. $50 for a million skill points maybe? That's fair I think. If it turns out to be cheaper, then I might even consider buying it instead of waiting for months to get my stupid carrier training done.

In fact I prefer it this way. I can keep my character instead of playing someone else's. Much more entertaining. As for the vanity items? Who cares if they're in the game? Someone will buy them, and CCP will make money with which they'll draw you some more fancy ships. Those without a fashion sense can stick to their sweatpants and wife beaters. Laughing

EDIT: spelling/grammar.

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2011.07.29 05:24:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Lord knows, they're not the sharpest tools in the shed. Maybe they're finally ready to listen to their customers, because they can see the writing on the wall if they don't. If I was advising them, here's where I'd start:

1. Make incarna completely optional.

2. Remove microtransactions completely from non-incarna gameplay.

3. Give people the option to have their old avatars back.

4. Spend adequate resources on Internet Spaceships.

5. Fire soundwave and the marketing guy.

6. Make it clear to all CCP employees that if they post on forums on one of their alts in defense of CCP, they will be fired.

7. Apologize to the last CSM, who warned you well ahead of time exactly what would happen if you do what you did and did everything in their power to prevent it.

8. Hire Mynxee as your Chief Ethics Officer and give her access to all internal communications and the power to make them public if she considers their contents to contradict your public positions or to be against the interests of the playerbase.

CCP asks its players to invest a significant amount of time/resources to its game. On top of that we pay for everything at CCP. They owe us gratitude, honesty, and improved gameplay over time.

They're 0 for 3 so far.



I like all 8 points, really... speaking as a customer. I'm assuming, of course, that point 1 includes the return of ship-spinning!!

Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.29 05:47:00 - [88]
 

Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 29/07/2011 05:51:14
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson

CCP asks its players to invest a significant amount of time/resources to its game. On top of that we pay for everything at CCP. They owe us gratitude, honesty, and improved gameplay over time.


I won't even go in detail about all the ridiculous points you posted, because I'm rather sleepy and your sense of false entitlement is rather distasteful. I'll just limit myself to responding to the part above.

CCP is a business providing a service. Investing a significant amount of time/resources to provide such a service.

You pay for a service, that they provide. If you like it, you continue to pay for it and take advantage of it. If not, no one holds you at a gunpoint to do so. You can stop paying and stop receiving the service.

To put it down simply. They give you your time/money's worth. Henceforth, they "owe" you absolutely nothing.

Adonis Peverell
Posted - 2011.07.29 05:48:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Tugrath Akers
1. Optimize performance and fix bugs in CQ
2. Release a beastly station interior


This.

I'm really hoping the winter expansion will streamline things and make the whole WIS thing better. I don't think they really need to recover from anything, just keep fixing bugs and balancing in regular intervals.

Athena Tarsis
Minmatar
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.07.29 05:56:00 - [90]
 

Recover from ... what? Irrational rage from a few people that hate a modicum of change?

Nothing to recover from.


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