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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:48:00 - [1]
 

Lord knows, they're not the sharpest tools in the shed. Maybe they're finally ready to listen to their customers, because they can see the writing on the wall if they don't. If I was advising them, here's where I'd start:

1. Make incarna completely optional.

2. Remove microtransactions completely from non-incarna gameplay.

3. Give people the option to have their old avatars back.

4. Spend adequate resources on Internet Spaceships.

5. Fire soundwave and the marketing guy.

6. Make it clear to all CCP employees that if they post on forums on one of their alts in defense of CCP, they will be fired.

7. Apologize to the last CSM, who warned you well ahead of time exactly what would happen if you do what you did and did everything in their power to prevent it.

8. Hire Mynxee as your Chief Ethics Officer and give her access to all internal communications and the power to make them public if she considers their contents to contradict your public positions or to be against the interests of the playerbase.

CCP asks its players to invest a significant amount of time/resources to its game. On top of that we pay for everything at CCP. They owe us gratitude, honesty, and improved gameplay over time.

They're 0 for 3 so far.

Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:49:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Borun Tal on 22/06/2011 21:50:13
What's to recover from? Everything going as planned, including all the new bugs and the plethora of unresolved bugs.

u mad?

Edit: speeling

Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:50:00 - [3]
 

Unfortunately such things basicly never happens. So I voted with my wallet.

Allant Doran
Amarr
Locus Industries
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:50:00 - [4]
 

Incarna, so far, has been less buggy for me personally than the past 3 expansions have been. So far i'd say, way to go CCP, you're getting the hang of cleaner patches.

Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:51:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Lord knows, they're not the sharpest tools in the shed.


See, thats what ppl miss about all this: NEVER assume someone is doing this kind of stuff out of stupidity.

Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:52:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Allant Doran
Incarna, so far, has been less buggy for me personally than the past 3 expansions have been. So far i'd say, way to go CCP, you're getting the hang of cleaner patches.


So you don't use drones or missiles? :-p

Khira Kitamatsu
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:53:00 - [7]
 

Walk with your wallet then if you feel so strongly about it. Personally I am loving Incarna and cannot wait until the roll out the rest of the updates they have planned for it! Cool

Vawd
Caldari
Tax Evasion Ltd
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:54:00 - [8]
 

Go ahead and leave already then, only problem I have with this patch is microtransactions, and honestly, as long as they stick to vanity ****, I don't care about them.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:54:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Myxx on 22/06/2011 21:54:42
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Lord knows, they're not the sharpest tools in the shed. Maybe they're finally ready to listen to their customers, because they can see the writing on the wall if they don't. If I was advising them, here's where I'd start:

1. Make incarna completely optional.

2. Remove microtransactions completely from non-incarna gameplay.

3. Give people the option to have their old avatars back.

4. Spend adequate resources on Internet Spaceships.

5. Fire soundwave and the marketing guy.

6. Make it clear to all CCP employees that if they post on forums on one of their alts in defense of CCP, they will be fired.

7. Apologize to the last CSM, who warned you well ahead of time exactly what would happen if you do what you did and did everything in their power to prevent it.

8. Hire Mynxee as your Chief Ethics Officer and give her access to all internal communications and the power to make them public if she considers their contents to contradict your public positions or to be against the interests of the playerbase.

CCP asks its players to invest a significant amount of time/resources to its game. On top of that we pay for everything at CCP. They owe us gratitude, honesty, and improved gameplay over time.

They're 0 for 3 so far.


This, and then on top of it, any dev who so much as mentions microtransactions needs to be fired a.s.a.p

Originally by: Vawd
Go ahead and leave already then, only problem I have with this patch is microtransactions, and honestly, as long as they stick to vanity ****, I don't care about them.


They wont, and that leaked doc proves it. They lied, fire the people responsible for pushing it.

Khira Kitamatsu
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:55:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Myxx
Edited by: Myxx on 22/06/2011 21:54:42
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Lord knows, they're not the sharpest tools in the shed. Maybe they're finally ready to listen to their customers, because they can see the writing on the wall if they don't. If I was advising them, here's where I'd start:

1. Make incarna completely optional.

2. Remove microtransactions completely from non-incarna gameplay.

3. Give people the option to have their old avatars back.

4. Spend adequate resources on Internet Spaceships.

5. Fire soundwave and the marketing guy.

6. Make it clear to all CCP employees that if they post on forums on one of their alts in defense of CCP, they will be fired.

7. Apologize to the last CSM, who warned you well ahead of time exactly what would happen if you do what you did and did everything in their power to prevent it.

8. Hire Mynxee as your Chief Ethics Officer and give her access to all internal communications and the power to make them public if she considers their contents to contradict your public positions or to be against the interests of the playerbase.

CCP asks its players to invest a significant amount of time/resources to its game. On top of that we pay for everything at CCP. They owe us gratitude, honesty, and improved gameplay over time.

They're 0 for 3 so far.


This, and then on top of it, any dev who so much as mentions microtransactions needs to be fired a.s.a.p

Originally by: Vawd
Go ahead and leave already then, only problem I have with this patch is microtransactions, and honestly, as long as they stick to vanity ****, I don't care about them.


They wont, and that leaked doc proves it. They lied, fire the people responsible for pushing it.


Umm..MT has been in the game for a long time. You're still playing. Why haven't you left all ready?

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:57:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Allant Doran
Incarna, so far, has been less buggy for me personally than the past 3 expansions have been. So far i'd say, way to go CCP, you're getting the hang of cleaner patches.


There is a HUGE gamebreaking bug going on with mods/skill bonus to weapons not being applied. It may not be as obvious as some of the notorious 'blackhole' expansions, but it's almost as unplayable.

And then there is the fact that this was the most content-starved update EVE has ever seen, so aside from the CQ which influences only a small part of the gameplay (and also has BIG problems), there simply wasn't that much that could have been broken to begin with.

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:57:00 - [12]
 

Vampires man. Vampires

They don't give a **** about what happens to EVE, as long as it lives to see Twilight Online launch.

Rens Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:57:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Rens Amarr on 22/06/2011 21:57:38
All they need to do is 1.

make it optional - without the sulky punishment option of the static wall.

Old station plus enter CQ would make everyone happy and would prob encourage people to actually use Incarna, at least later on when there is something to do in stations.

Allant Doran
Amarr
Locus Industries
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:58:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Borun Tal
Originally by: Allant Doran
Incarna, so far, has been less buggy for me personally than the past 3 expansions have been. So far i'd say, way to go CCP, you're getting the hang of cleaner patches.


So you don't use drones or missiles? :-p


I use drones a fair bit but it's still not as bad as I have seen in the past. Besides. Drones broken? I just spend a bit of time flying a few ships that don't rely on them so much.

Drones and Missiles are broken, sure, but on a stability level Incarna is gold compared to the past haha :P

Again, only speaking for myself here.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:58:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu
Originally by: Myxx
Edited by: Myxx on 22/06/2011 21:54:42
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Lord knows, they're not the sharpest tools in the shed. Maybe they're finally ready to listen to their customers, because they can see the writing on the wall if they don't. If I was advising them, here's where I'd start:

1. Make incarna completely optional.

2. Remove microtransactions completely from non-incarna gameplay.

3. Give people the option to have their old avatars back.

4. Spend adequate resources on Internet Spaceships.

5. Fire soundwave and the marketing guy.

6. Make it clear to all CCP employees that if they post on forums on one of their alts in defense of CCP, they will be fired.

7. Apologize to the last CSM, who warned you well ahead of time exactly what would happen if you do what you did and did everything in their power to prevent it.

8. Hire Mynxee as your Chief Ethics Officer and give her access to all internal communications and the power to make them public if she considers their contents to contradict your public positions or to be against the interests of the playerbase.

CCP asks its players to invest a significant amount of time/resources to its game. On top of that we pay for everything at CCP. They owe us gratitude, honesty, and improved gameplay over time.

They're 0 for 3 so far.


This, and then on top of it, any dev who so much as mentions microtransactions needs to be fired a.s.a.p

Originally by: Vawd
Go ahead and leave already then, only problem I have with this patch is microtransactions, and honestly, as long as they stick to vanity ****, I don't care about them.


They wont, and that leaked doc proves it. They lied, fire the people responsible for pushing it.


Umm..MT has been in the game for a long time. You're still playing. Why haven't you left all ready?


My account dies july 3rd. Until then...

Shameless Avenger
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:07:00 - [16]
 

Incarna - The most whinage I've seen since Warp to Zero

Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:08:00 - [17]
 

Yeah getting tired of the extremely obvious alts here posting "OMG THIS IS GREAT SUCCESS INCARNA IS GREAT BEGONE WHINERS". Even real haters have that eve speech you can detect in them.

Also make Incarna OPTIONAL, bring the old environment and most people will be calmed. If they want to turn this into GARBAGE PAIL KIDS IN SPACE , good for them, but leave those that want just to fly around, spin ships in an efficient environment alone. They can add more marvelous Monocles or charge 3000$ for a pair of used sweaty minmatar boxers with realistic stains on it for all that I care, just leave original gameplay efficiency alone, leave docking as it was for those that dont want to see our avatar jerkily moving around like automatons.

Just bring spinning ships back, make it so if we want to we cna undock into Psycho Torture Room PLZ CCP!!!

Lyrrashae
Minmatar
Crushed Ambitions
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:26:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Lyrrashae on 23/06/2011 16:29:34
Edited by: Lyrrashae on 23/06/2011 16:28:03
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu
Walk with your wallet then if you feel so strongly about it. Personally I am loving Incarna and cannot wait until the roll out the rest of the updates they have planned for it! Cool


(Cute spaceship LOL-cat pokes her head up and grins) O, hai dere! You'ze again!

So, lemme guess....Greyscale? Guard? Maybe Zymurgist?

Surely not that idiot Zinfandel:

That'd be too much sheer, unmitigated gall even for someone that insufferably smarmy, crassly/smugly self-satisfied, and condescending.

I hate the juvenile overused memes on these forums, but in this case the boot I'd like to use to kick you all in your c**ts fits, soooo...:

Post with your "main," as it were Twisted Evil.

Tugrath Akers
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:29:00 - [19]
 

1. Optimize performance and fix bugs in CQ
2. Release a beastly station interior

Ripley Nostromo
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:30:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Lord knows, they're not the sharpest tools in the shed. Maybe they're finally ready to listen to their customers, because they can see the writing on the wall if they don't. If I was advising them, here's where I'd start:

1. Make incarna completely optional.

2. Remove microtransactions completely from non-incarna gameplay.

3. Give people the option to have their old avatars back.

4. Spend adequate resources on Internet Spaceships.

5. Fire soundwave and the marketing guy.

6. Make it clear to all CCP employees that if they post on forums on one of their alts in defense of CCP, they will be fired.

7. Apologize to the last CSM, who warned you well ahead of time exactly what would happen if you do what you did and did everything in their power to prevent it.

8. Hire Mynxee as your Chief Ethics Officer and give her access to all internal communications and the power to make them public if she considers their contents to contradict your public positions or to be against the interests of the playerbase.

CCP asks its players to invest a significant amount of time/resources to its game. On top of that we pay for everything at CCP. They owe us gratitude, honesty, and improved gameplay over time.

They're 0 for 3 so far.

As if, geez you're clueless...

Herping yourDerp
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:33:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Lord knows, they're not the sharpest tools in the shed. Maybe they're finally ready to listen to their customers, because they can see the writing on the wall if they don't. If I was advising them, here's where I'd start:

1. Make incarna completely optional.

2. Remove microtransactions completely from non-incarna gameplay.

3. Give people the option to have their old avatars back.

4. Spend adequate resources on Internet Spaceships.

5. Fire soundwave and the marketing guy.

6. Make it clear to all CCP employees that if they post on forums on one of their alts in defense of CCP, they will be fired.

7. Apologize to the last CSM, who warned you well ahead of time exactly what would happen if you do what you did and did everything in their power to prevent it.

8. Hire Mynxee as your Chief Ethics Officer and give her access to all internal communications and the power to make them public if she considers their contents to contradict your public positions or to be against the interests of the playerbase.

CCP asks its players to invest a significant amount of time/resources to its game. On top of that we pay for everything at CCP. They owe us gratitude, honesty, and improved gameplay over time.

They're 0 for 3 so far.

how can i join your alliance /corp in support of your statements?
or should i just quit eve <3Embarassed

also agree 100%

Wile EC
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:39:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
...
6. Make it clear to all CCP employees that if they post on forums on one of their alts in defense of CCP, they will be fired.
....


*walks away laughing*


LIOZTH
Caldari
Divide By Zero
Dark Phoenix Rising.
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:40:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Shintai
Unfortunately such things basicly never happens. So I voted with my wallet.


This is by far the most powerful way of making your opinion known, and where it will hurt CCP the most. We all have a say in this by choosing simply not to pay. For the moment this is the same step I am taking, my accounts are no longer in auto-renew and I am taking a "wait and see" approach, should I decide to resub. If nothing changes for the better, then I'll take my bow and exit left.

Ripley Nostromo
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:43:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Wile EC
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
...
6. Make it clear to all CCP employees that if they post on forums on one of their alts in defense of CCP, they will be fired.
....


*walks away laughing*



Fired for supporting their company? This just shows how incredibly stupid some players really are...

(Sure some fewl might say "they should post with their main")


Sarmatiko
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:45:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Sarmatiko on 23/06/2011 16:45:34
Most of the EVE players don't even care about all this EVE-O forum raging and whining.
I closely watching most populated russian community forums and main motive there is "I dont care about microtransactions, high prices and all this stuff people crying about, just playing this game as before".

Hey but you can keep crying Smile

Lyrrashae
Minmatar
Crushed Ambitions
Posted - 2011.06.24 04:52:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Sarmatiko
Edited by: Sarmatiko on 23/06/2011 16:45:34
Most of the EVE players don't even care about all this EVE-O forum raging and whining.
I closely watching most populated russian community forums and main motive there is "I dont care about microtransactions, high prices and all this stuff people crying about, just botting this game as before".

Hey but you can keep crying Smile


Fixed.

daddys helper
Posted - 2011.06.24 04:53:00 - [27]
 

roll everything back and pretend it was all a joke

Fern Dolakar
Posted - 2011.06.24 04:53:00 - [28]
 

STAR WARS: Galaxies.

kardjaval
Posted - 2011.06.24 05:13:00 - [29]
 

notice, when incarna came out, their playerbase has active players at any random hour has been around 50k ploayers, much higher than right before the patch.

so, their is nothing to "recover" from.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.24 05:15:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Shintai
Unfortunately such things basicly never happens. So I voted with my wallet.


^this

Though your suggestions are noteworthy.Wink


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