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Govinda Sertan
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:58:00 - [2551]
 

>>>First the CQ : CCP spend what, one year maybe, developping this **** ? A small place with a stupid sims to look at, doing nothing....
>>>Then the mall shop : yeah starting to sell vanity fair for outrageous price.
>>>Finally, the leak : where we clearly see that CCP dont intend to work on EVE anymore, but just milk us, the gamers, until we are all dry.

I joined EvE because of the relation between the community and CCP. Now I see that CCP just want to be exactly like others company, and dont want to do a good job, but just making fast money, even when there is more and more players coming in.

I seriously consider to quit. If they do as they say, this game will be **** very soon.

T0KER
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:05:00 - [2552]
 


I HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYS THEIR PAY TO PLAY & PAY TO WIN EVE.

I WILL NOT BE A PART IN ANOTHER MICROTRANSACTION P2W GAME

dhunpael
Caldari
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:19:00 - [2553]
 

it's confirmed, now just push it trough and you won't lose me, but all the players in the game

(ok not all of them, there are those who love to play hello kitty online)

Heroldyn Yhamad
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:22:00 - [2554]
 

we can still play eve offline.
for free!

http://eve.znaor.hr/evegame/index.php

Slaktoid
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:24:00 - [2555]
 

Just chiming in to say that this stuff is indeed deeply disturbing reading. I fear for what the future may bring. We cannot afford to lose big chunks of the community. The game will die if these ideas are put into practice.

CCP needs to take a long hard look at what they're about to unleash here. The CSM has a more important task than ever before them: To Salvage this game from total ruin.

Every messageboard everywhere is literally on fire.

Kno Bodeesbitch
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:28:00 - [2556]
 

Dear CCP,

I spent a good chunk of a day defending your right to use MT for vanity items in the first MT threadnaught. I now have to eat crow and apologize to all of those I insulted for being alarmist..thanks...

You have completely changed the way I feel about this game. I have 11 accounts, all paid every month via CC..never plex...I just love(d) the Eve community and world you have created that I wanted characters in every aspect of it. Its not the MT that turned me off its the lies...I am sorry you did this

Sasha Whorlita
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:31:00 - [2557]
 

Originally by: Govinda Sertan
>>>First the CQ : CCP spend what, one year maybe, developping this **** ? A small place with a stupid sims to look at, doing nothing....
>>>Then the mall shop : yeah starting to sell vanity fair for outrageous price.
>>>Finally, the leak : where we clearly see that CCP dont intend to work on EVE anymore, but just milk us, the gamers, until we are all dry.


Ugg i gotta say something here

It hasnt been 1 year for 1 room check the other thread below this one, CCP spent most of there time developing the ENGINE for Incarna, the thing that makes that room possible, Incarna is step 1 in testing CARBON to see how it performans and be optimized before letting other areas open up or going multiplayer with it.......

The mall shop, its vanity items who gives a f*ck yes its overpriced and insanely rediculous but its vanity items that dont affect anything.

And where in that entire leak (the ORIGINAL ONE not the EN24) did they say any of that, the f*cking leak was a document of 2 devs giving pro and con sides of MT in games... it wasnt a corporate policy even tho some may have seen it as that it was a newsletter debating directions....


-

Now i will say if they make the NeX anything but vanity then i'm gone, i don't play eve to be able to buy a win card for RL cash thats just bullsh*t (dramiel 8H 8M 8L anyone lol) ...

And the idea of NeX skinned ships without requiring a trade in of a unpainted player bought player built ship is not something i will stand for, it ruins the economy and means that you could buy ships anywhere in eve even deep nullsec without any logistics... SO NO NeX should offer ship SKINNING for a price if they want ... but NOT ships themselves!!!!!

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:32:00 - [2558]
 

I'm taking donations if anyone would like to unload any isk they'd like to be rid of. I even take plex if you'd like to send me some of them as well.

It would be very much appreciated.


Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:38:00 - [2559]
 

so...still nothing from CCP except the derailing from the original thread to a new CCP thread hm? Nice touch. No, the LINK to the DOCUMENT will not vanish, bump.

Korbin Dallaz
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:41:00 - [2560]
 

Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
Dear CCP,

Its not the MT that turned me off its the lies...I am sorry you did this


I think that says it all right there. I have been telling people for a while that the CSM is a useless PR tool and that CCP only uses it to give the illusion that they give a ****. So you guys are caught doing exactly that using the CSM to force stuff on the players and give them some illusion of control and instead of taking a good hard look at yourselves and where this game is going you permaban the person who leaked it ? That speaks volumes to your level of disconnect from your customers and you absolute lack of understanding the true problem.

Dazram Two
Posted - 2011.06.24 16:43:00 - [2561]
 

screw these *******s man, i'm letting my account expire and I'm never touching this garbage again

Korbin Dallaz
Posted - 2011.06.24 17:02:00 - [2562]
 

Originally by: Sasha Whorlita


The mall shop, its vanity items who gives a f*ck yes its overpriced and insanely rediculous but its vanity items that dont affect anything.

And where in that entire leak (the ORIGINAL ONE not the EN24) did they say any of that, the f*cking leak was a document of 2 devs giving pro and con sides of MT in games... it wasnt a corporate policy even tho some may have seen it as that it was a newsletter debating directions....





Do you remember 2 expansions ago when they introduced PI and the servers were down for a little longer than expected and they gave us all like 100K skill points to spend ? Well in the past when servers were down for longer than expected CCP would say stop crying we tell you to put long skills in case this happens. I suspected then especially with the speed at which the delivery interface for applying skill points was introduced that it was developed to sell skill points and was released at that point to test it. The leaked document confirms that is the direction they are headed behind the scenes. While they may not have done it yet their actions clearly indicate that is the direction that they are headed.

CCP gave up on eve players and has chosen a different and larger audience. Their actions in response to all of this only confirm that.

TedStriker
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.24 17:15:00 - [2563]
 

Well well, up again, ppl should read it, as the FIRST POST in the DEV-Thread is not even MENTIONING the newsletter!!!!

KITTYCALLER
Posted - 2011.06.24 17:16:00 - [2564]
 

Its sad cuz ive been playing eve for 4 years now, and if the virtual store stuff becomes necessary to play, thats all she wrote for me, thanks ccp for ruining my game of choice entirely... i will not be purchasing anything from virtual goods store at all ever, deal with it

Erichan
Posted - 2011.06.24 17:18:00 - [2565]
 

UGH I didnt make the connection between the learning points being able to be distributed for refunds and the whole MT thing. So you trade plex for a finite amount of sps to spend? EEEK. That they had that in development and just accelerated that for the issue of the downtime means this has been planned for a long time.

/faceplam how did I miss it.

Melerose Tenaku
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.24 17:23:00 - [2566]
 

sweet, I'll totally buy more SP on my toon, right after I CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTIONS!

Saving Face
Posted - 2011.06.24 17:27:00 - [2567]
 

Originally by: Erichan
UGH I didnt make the connection between the learning points being able to be distributed for refunds and the whole MT thing. So you trade plex for a finite amount of sps to spend? EEEK. That they had that in development and just accelerated that for the issue of the downtime means this has been planned for a long time.

/faceplam how did I miss it.


Also don't forget that PLEX for remaps was already on SiSi at one point, somehow they forgot how "well" that went.

Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.06.24 17:34:00 - [2568]
 

Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH This "leak" is hysterical.

I can't believe people actually believe this. It's completely unprofessional, cartoonish, and plays on every EvE bittervets fears and paranoia like harp strings.

If you believe this is real, and that this represents CCP opinion, please do the EvE community a favor and just quit the game now.

No, not "quit the game" but stay on the forums complaining needlessly as if CCP cares, just quit, walk away, and stop posting. Go find something better to do than whining about a GAME that you've decided is horrible but need to stick around and make worse with your rude, useless, trolling. CCP has said in plain english they ignore ****heads but respond to constructive criticism.

.....this is like New Eden's version of the Barack Obama birther phenomena. Complete with fake documents "proving" that CCP is making a greedy money grab.
This is rooted in simple emotional outcry, nothing else. Just as the birthers will cry foul no matter what gets posted as evidence, so the naysayers will whine about monocles destroying their spaceship game.

Lets be honest, all of you who believe this to be true, will not care if CCP comes out and responds, even though they wont. You wouldn't believe them. Stop demanding it like them saying "not us" is all you need to be convinced.



You forgot to edit this out of existence.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.06.24 17:35:00 - [2569]
 

What they fail to see is that a lot of EVE players chose EVE to get away from all this MT bull**** and upper management buzzfarts that now infest CCP.

By forcing this development they are losing the hard core of their loyal player base.

Majuan Shuo
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.24 17:59:00 - [2570]
 

Free LIANG you ****ers.

Alec Page
Caldari
Moo corporation
Reverberation Project
Posted - 2011.06.24 17:59:00 - [2571]
 

CCP - You cannot reshape the EVE universe to favor those more economically endowed in real life. By doing so, you will alienate (and by this I mean you will LOSE subscribers) a large percentage of your user base, likely counteracting any profits your legal RMTing may bring. In essence that's what it is: legal RMTing, because offering advantages in game for a swipe of the credit card will do exactly what RMT has done in the past–ruin the game–merely on a larger level.

If these changes come about, I for one will no longer subscribe to EVE.

Faith O'Siras
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:00:00 - [2572]
 

So has CCP said anything about this officially?

Londo Cebb
Official Market Discussions Troll
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:06:00 - [2573]
 

Edited by: Londo Cebb on 24/06/2011 18:05:50
Originally by: Faith O'Siras
So has CCP said anything about this officially?


Yes they have.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536065&page=5#126

Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:17:00 - [2574]
 

Originally by: Faith O'Siras
So has CCP said anything about this officially?


Yup, something along the lines of

"oh, we see you like MT but the prices are too high yes? maybe we can do something about that, i will give you an answer in a few days as i can say anything, i'm just a PR tool.

Then ppl got angry again asked if she didn't notice the FAT ELEPHANT THREAD....

"oh, i see...well, its real...now, could you stop posting about it, pretty please? It makes us look bad".

Melerose Tenaku
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.24 18:54:00 - [2575]
 

A Quote from Mullan Turrek in his latest post on EN247

Quote:
A while back I showed you a picture of the currency exchange that demonstrated money spent, and then consumed by the CCP monster. It turns out that I was a little off. I’ve had a chance to take a look at the new noble exchange store, and I’ve changed my mind considerably. So here’s a new image that helps demonstrate the currency cycle in EVE just a little bit more effectively.




Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Echo Watts
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:15:00 - [2576]
 

Page 2 Sniper...

Fakeedit: oh, little late.


Anyway, I don't care about the vanity stuff. Right now you can spend RL cash on in game stuff (PLEX). When you fight someone who's using weapons you can't, because he has more SP than you, that's fine. When are people going to be able to buy SP? Will T3 battleships only be available using RL cash? Maybe not be sellable on the open market so to have one you'll have to spend your own money, not isk, to get one? It's all speculation.

I just don't like where this trend this is going.

Mamayev Kurgan
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:25:00 - [2577]
 

Bump .. this is THE issue, CCP. Face it, answer for it.

Liliana Morgenstern
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:44:00 - [2578]
 

Originally by: Slaktoid
Just chiming in to say that this stuff is indeed deeply disturbing reading. I fear for what the future may bring. We cannot afford to lose big chunks of the community. The game will die if these ideas are put into practice.

CCP needs to take a long hard look at what they're about to unleash here. The CSM has a more important task than ever before them: To Salvage this game from total ruin.

Every messageboard everywhere is literally on fire.


+1

I fear for the future of EVE at this point.

ArchenTheGreat
Caldari
Pulsar Nebulah
Army of Lovers.
Posted - 2011.06.24 19:51:00 - [2579]
 

I am really disapointed. I can stand vanity items in ingame shop. I'll just don't use them and will not care. But players buying their way into game it's something I am strongly against.

I don't play too much but I still pay subscription every month. If you make micropayments in EVE I will probably quit.

Eden Falls
Posted - 2011.06.24 20:04:00 - [2580]
 

I've been playing since 2003. This is the first time i posted on forums. If they are going to follow the "Entropia" model, i'll cancel my 4 accounts and i think a lot of vets will feel the same. This is a sad day for eve :(


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