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Miep Miep
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:15:00 - [2491]
 

Edited by: Miep Miep on 24/06/2011 11:16:06
While i enjoy the drama and the show... i somehow dont care anymore.
Had a nice time o7, heared thats something with laser swords and stuff coming out, cya there.

Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:15:00 - [2492]
 

Originally by: Vim
Wow. Lots of rage here.

What is the problem? An internal document meant to cause discussion about mt?
I realy don't see the issue here, 'Greed is good?' see that questionmark on the cover? Not 'Greed is good' as is qouted.

Talks about expendeble aur boosters for dust. Oone whacky guy being all pro everything thats got to do with microtransactions, one not as keen.

One guy, hellokitten the sponsor of hulkageddon, got banned and makes people go into rage mode to support him more then over this document as I read this thread.

Can I have all your stuff, you that are quitting. I would get so rich :D

You can't read. CCP Soundwave goes into great detail about offering "Items of Power" aka non-vanity items in EVE.

Vim
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:20:00 - [2493]
 

Originally by: Isis Soryu
Originally by: Vim
Wow. Lots of rage here.

What is the problem? An internal document meant to cause discussion about mt?
I realy don't see the issue here, 'Greed is good?' see that questionmark on the cover? Not 'Greed is good' as is qouted.

Talks about expendeble aur boosters for dust. Oone whacky guy being all pro everything thats got to do with microtransactions, one not as keen.

One guy, hellokitten the sponsor of hulkageddon, got banned and makes people go into rage mode to support him more then over this document as I read this thread.

Can I have all your stuff, you that are quitting. I would get so rich :D

You can't read. CCP Soundwave goes into great detail about offering "Items of Power" aka non-vanity items in EVE.


I read that. That is the guy having the all pro transactions arguments. I can take and debate a pro whale hunting opinion if I'am to cause debate and reflection. Without supporting it even slightly. What is the problem with people having a document containing a debate with to blatant arguments like taken from retorics A?

Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:22:00 - [2494]
 

Originally by: Vim
Originally by: Isis Soryu
Originally by: Vim
Wow. Lots of rage here.

What is the problem? An internal document meant to cause discussion about mt?
I realy don't see the issue here, 'Greed is good?' see that questionmark on the cover? Not 'Greed is good' as is qouted.

Talks about expendeble aur boosters for dust. Oone whacky guy being all pro everything thats got to do with microtransactions, one not as keen.

One guy, hellokitten the sponsor of hulkageddon, got banned and makes people go into rage mode to support him more then over this document as I read this thread.

Can I have all your stuff, you that are quitting. I would get so rich :D

You can't read. CCP Soundwave goes into great detail about offering "Items of Power" aka non-vanity items in EVE.


I read that. That is the guy having the all pro transactions arguments. I can take and debate a pro whale hunting opinion if I'am to cause debate and reflection. Without supporting it even slightly. What is the problem with people having a document containing a debate with to blatant arguments like taken from retorics A?
You've missed the part where Soundwave is Lead Design and Diagoras is the CSM to CCP rep and a stats guy? Who do you think pulls more weight in the decision making structure? Seleene from the current CSM (formerly CCP Abathur) has also commented on how often things "discussed" in Fearless end up as policy.

Saris Jacinta
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:33:00 - [2495]
 

Originally by: Vim
Originally by: Isis Soryu
Originally by: Vim
Wow. Lots of rage here.

What is the problem? An internal document meant to cause discussion about mt?
I realy don't see the issue here, 'Greed is good?' see that questionmark on the cover? Not 'Greed is good' as is qouted.

Talks about expendeble aur boosters for dust. Oone whacky guy being all pro everything thats got to do with microtransactions, one not as keen.

One guy, hellokitten the sponsor of hulkageddon, got banned and makes people go into rage mode to support him more then over this document as I read this thread.

Can I have all your stuff, you that are quitting. I would get so rich :D

You can't read. CCP Soundwave goes into great detail about offering "Items of Power" aka non-vanity items in EVE.


I read that. That is the guy having the all pro transactions arguments. I can take and debate a pro whale hunting opinion if I'am to cause debate and reflection. Without supporting it even slightly. What is the problem with people having a document containing a debate with to blatant arguments like taken from retorics A?


Its just thoughtss but as in RL.. if i see someone with a gun pointing in my direction i dont wat till he pull the Trigger, i start to scream immediately hrhr. No i dont ragequit now but i use the only thing i have.. this forum to tell them what i think about. And the Moment they dont listen and bringg in those stuff, i will hit the cancle button.

Teako
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:36:00 - [2496]
 

CCP is just so decoupled from their own game its sad. Some pricks like CCP Soundwave thought they was the gods and could do anything.

I wonder how many layoffs at CCP this little mistake will cost. 30? 50? People. Will the responsible ******s be included?

Vim
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:37:00 - [2497]
 

Originally by: Isis Soryu
Originally by: Vim
Originally by: Isis Soryu
Originally by: Vim
Wow. Lots of rage here.

What is the problem? An internal document meant to cause discussion about mt?
I realy don't see the issue here, 'Greed is good?' see that questionmark on the cover? Not 'Greed is good' as is qouted.

Talks about expendeble aur boosters for dust. Oone whacky guy being all pro everything thats got to do with microtransactions, one not as keen.

One guy, hellokitten the sponsor of hulkageddon, got banned and makes people go into rage mode to support him more then over this document as I read this thread.

Can I have all your stuff, you that are quitting. I would get so rich :D

You can't read. CCP Soundwave goes into great detail about offering "Items of Power" aka non-vanity items in EVE.


I read that. That is the guy having the all pro transactions arguments. I can take and debate a pro whale hunting opinion if I'am to cause debate and reflection. Without supporting it even slightly. What is the problem with people having a document containing a debate with to blatant arguments like taken from retorics A?
You've missed the part where Soundwave is Lead Design and Diagoras is the CSM to CCP rep and a stats guy? Who do you think pulls more weight in the decision making structure? Seleene from the current CSM (formerly CCP Abathur) has also commented on how often things "discussed" in Fearless end up as policy.


If thoose outrageous ideas he is presenting (damn good character acting that soundwave A- for taking an extreme point of view in a debate document and act as gordon gekko himself(strange, I wonder if thats the intent with calling it the gordon gekko edition)) about selling ingame items that benefit ship pewpew and standing gains; I would be a dramaticly sad panda and abandon ship.

I'll rather see it as nothing but a debate document to create an inhouse stir; probably mostly aimed to get ideas for blingbling out of DUST and WoD.
I dont care if WoD & Dust is microtransactionarcadia. But as I said, should they indeed introduce non vanity(not clothes, furniture, ship paintjobs, etc etc) ,I would be sad and take my money elsewhere. Till that actually happens, pewpew =)



skepsiss
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:37:00 - [2498]
 

Can't believe I activated both my accounts right before this. Oh well, time to put past into past. And thinking I really wanted to buy a PS3 from that ****hole of a company that is Sony, just to play Dust.

That being said, good luck with your future crap, CCP.


mvrck22
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:39:00 - [2499]
 

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536065&page=95#2830

Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Originally by: Clone Whisper
It's not fair to [the CSM] to be elected and than be forbidden to communicate with the people they are representing about what's going on behind the screens. I say, truely make the CSM the voice of the community tehy are suposed to represent and stop having them be barricaded in their movement to do their jobs.

We try and communicate with the players as much as possible. Sure, there are some things that are NDA, and (alas) there are things like the virtual goods pricing strategy (or, for that manner, <insert recent CCP screwup here>) where CSM was simply not consulted. But outside of those limitations, we do the best we can.

Similarly, we convey both our personal opinions and player opinions to people in CCP. Some are receptive to the outside perspective, some are not.

As for what you should do to best express your opinion of recent events in New Eden, all I can tell you is that CCP pays more attention to what you do than what you say.

Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:42:00 - [2500]
 

Edited by: Isis Soryu on 24/06/2011 11:42:05
Originally by: Vim
Originally by: Isis Soryu
Originally by: Vim

I read that. That is the guy having the all pro transactions arguments. I can take and debate a pro whale hunting opinion if I'am to cause debate and reflection. Without supporting it even slightly. What is the problem with people having a document containing a debate with to blatant arguments like taken from retorics A?
You've missed the part where Soundwave is Lead Design and Diagoras is the CSM to CCP rep and a stats guy? Who do you think pulls more weight in the decision making structure? Seleene from the current CSM (formerly CCP Abathur) has also commented on how often things "discussed" in Fearless end up as policy.


If thoose outrageous ideas he is presenting (damn good character acting that soundwave A- for taking an extreme point of view in a debate document and act as gordon gekko himself(strange, I wonder if thats the intent with calling it the gordon gekko edition)) about selling ingame items that benefit ship pewpew and standing gains; I would be a dramaticly sad panda and abandon ship.

I'll rather see it as nothing but a debate document to create an inhouse stir; probably mostly aimed to get ideas for blingbling out of DUST and WoD.
I dont care if WoD & Dust is microtransactionarcadia. But as I said, should they indeed introduce non vanity(not clothes, furniture, ship paintjobs, etc etc) ,I would be sad and take my money elsewhere. Till that actually happens, pewpew =)



Look I'd love to be wrong, but my faith in CCP is gone. They lied once about MT being introduced and I'll be damned if I'll let them do it to me a second time.

Bloody2k
Gallente
ZERO T0LERANCE
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:42:00 - [2501]
 

On the one hand, it is appalling - on the other hand this document shows how piggishness
destroy human virtues. The unfavourable and malign approach at the opposite to the eve
player community, destroy the last piece of credit in CCP.

That EVE-ONLINE is a game for the community - that is long time ago.

There was a time, I was very proud to be a part of the EVE player community, because it
was a aweful gamedesign. EVE was a game for player - that was my impression and not
built, to milk the player communitys money.


CCP - are you aware of the treasure, the EVE community elevate from all other existing MMO's?
You are destroying the base why EVE isn't fade since all these years.

CCP - there is just one way to get last credit back!

CCP - this community wont mess around


1. END MICROTRANSACTIONS NOW, END MICROTRANSACTIONS BETTER TODAY THAN TOMORROW!

enderhexfyre
Gallente
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:44:00 - [2502]
 

Moooooooooo milking us for the cows we are

Binary Broker
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:47:00 - [2503]
 

I hate this.
9 days and counting.. Exclamation

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:52:00 - [2504]
 

From the leaked doc:

We are FEARLESS



If you are fearless why do you write you have to keep it hidden? Fearful people cower up.

Megumi Yumiko
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:53:00 - [2505]
 

think its time ccp comes with there idea's about it for the future to make sure or eve dies in a week or 2 or it survives hehe

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:53:00 - [2506]
 

Qouted from the Beginnings Blog on the Dust514 site:

"DUST 514 will, as EVE Online does, have a dynamic virtual economy and market that offers the tools that will give you a competitive edge, when used skillfully. Players are able to purchase different gear to equip before deploying into battle, using InterStellar Kredits (ISK), the in-game earned currency of the EVE universe, or through real money currency, called Aurum (AUR). This provides players with flexibility and adaptability in how they approach a combat scenario. Certain items are only available through ISK transactions, while others are only available through AUR. These are then traded freely on a player-driven secondary marketplace."

So... CCP is including AUR in DUST which further ties it into Eve and explains why CCP isn't listening to the feedback from the players.


http://www.dust514.com/en/news/?article=1980

"RPS: So, if I’m an EVE player, how is my game going to change after DUST is released?

Torfi: Well, you have the ability to be more strategic when you are conquering planets and solar systems, in nulsec. Those are the main touchpoints. Highsec carebears need not worry. The same for lowsec. The main touchpoint upon the launch of DUST, will be in nulsec, will be in sovereignty, will be in inflicting damage and destruction and death upon your enemies, destroying their infrastructure and their means to survive, either by means or scorched earth or by stealing their installations on the surfaces of planets. There will be more going on on the surfaces of planets. We’ve introduced mechanics allowing people to manufacture goods on the planets, but planets will play a more pivotal role in sovereignty mechanics further down the line."

Snippet of the RPS interview on Dust 514

So not only will the dust players spend RL cash to buy an advantage in their game, they will be using that RL cash purchase to buy an advantage in OUR sov warfare.

MT is here to stay folks...


Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:53:00 - [2507]
 

Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 11:56:13
Originally by: Akira Samposeppa
Maybe it would be the best if we all dont log in after dt as a sign of protest until ccp explains the leaked memo.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_failure

Login means nothing now.

edit: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=failure%20cascade probably better cite.

Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:54:00 - [2508]
 

Now there must be people from the medical profession who play EvE that can answer this:

What's the cure for 'Sparkle Pony Syndrome' that some individuals at CCP seem to have contracted? A highly contagious desease that seems to be going around the MMO developers at the moment. Smile

Horace Nancyball
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:05:00 - [2509]
 

Edited by: Horace Nancyball on 24/06/2011 12:21:41
Originally by: Isis Soryu
Nice ad hominem. I haven't done anything with the CQ or char creator on this account because I can't be bothered. My main has a new avatar, you'll find it in this very thread with the name Isil Rahsen, it's currently out of gametime and I have no plans to resub it or this char. (which isn't subbed either just FYI) If it's so hysterical that RMT mods and ships will have no effect then why are so many people against it? Why do people rail against FotM ships and unbalanced races? They'll be the same thing once CCP is done. FotM will be whatever the best ship/mods get put up on the RMT Cash Shop and anyone who can't compete will have to either outblob or spend the cash themselves. (Unless your a VERY VERY rich char going by the 1.3bil monocle prices.) The notion that anyone who can't afford the isk for NEX controlled ship/mod prices aren't worth considering is as laughable as the rest of your post.



So, basically, you aren't actually playing the game. You don't actually have first hand knowledge of what the current situation plays out like, let alone what may or may not appear in the future (any more than I do). You're really just reacting to the hysteria...contagious isn't it?

Like I said in my post I reacted a year ago EXACTLY as you are are now. Subsequent events have shown my reaction to be wholly out of proportion. The world goes on spinning. The thing I learned? "Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"

DeadDuck
Amarr
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:07:00 - [2510]
 

Originally by: Vandrion

So not only will the dust players spend RL cash to buy an advantage in their game, they will be using that RL cash purchase to buy an advantage in OUR sov warfare.



TBH I'm not worried with Dust Interaction. That game life expectancy is what ? 1-2 years? It's a FPS, as soon the new hot thing comes to market, bye bye Dust. ugh

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:11:00 - [2511]
 

Originally by: Vim
I read that. That is the guy having the all pro transactions arguments. I can take and debate a pro whale hunting opinion if I'am to cause debate and reflection. Without supporting it even slightly. What is the problem with people having a document containing a debate with to blatant arguments like taken from retorics A?


The fact that such options are even on the table is not acceptable.

Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:14:00 - [2512]
 

Quote:
So, basically, you aren't actually playing the game. You don't actually have first hand knowledge of what the current situation plays out like, let alone what may or may not appear in the future (any more than I do). You're really just reacting to the hysteria...contagious isn't it?

Like I said in my post I reacted a year ago EXACTLY as you are are now. Subsequent events have shown my reaction to be wholly out of proportion. The world goes on spinning. The thing I learned? "Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"
You're ******ed. Literally brain damaged. How recent would I have to have been subbed for my opinion to matter then? 1 day ago perhaps? A week? Your whole argument boils down to "You aren't subbed you don't matter trolololol" I've played this game for 5+ years and I know perfectly well what will happen. CCP will add in their non-vanity items, they will have an advantage to entice buyers, and then they will become FotM just like anything that is better than something else. Just like lasers and just like projectiles after them. Only this time you'll get to pay for it. Keep on trolling though, your so far out of touch I have no interest in talking to you.

Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:15:00 - [2513]
 

It's done. It's over.

The rats left the ship long ago. Now the passengers are taking to the lifeboats while the captain's clutching the wheel, singing sea shanties the whole way down.

Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:16:00 - [2514]
 

Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu
Originally by: Miilla


CCP are going to TRY and be greedy, we see that now, in the AUR prices for vanity items.

They WILL SUCCEED, if you let them, and you let them by buying the items.

There is only one way to prevent it succeeding, don't buy them.

Or would you prefer to play Entropia?




Hey Miilla quit all ready. Your incessant whining is like the droning of a katydid.

Anyone with even a 1/4 of a brain can see this is fake and not real. Look at all the grammatical and spelling errors.


lolpwnt

Horace Nancyball
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:18:00 - [2515]
 

Originally by: Coarl
You literally know nothing of how eve works if that's what you think. Either biomass your toon and start again, only this time actually work through the entire tutorial. OR Have a loong hard think about how extra shiny ships in empire will get used in nullsec. (PL's T3 fleets anyone?). Changes to highsec = changes everywhere, it's the same server universe you clown!


My point was that those people flying around in T3s will (or at least should) have those fits anyway. The people actually needing uber mods will have the isk to obtain them one way or another anyway. The first time I see a fully officer fitted Bantam cruising around hi-sec taking out rats I will just laugh in your face.

Vim
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:22:00 - [2516]
 

Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Originally by: Vim
I read that. That is the guy having the all pro transactions arguments. I can take and debate a pro whale hunting opinion if I'am to cause debate and reflection. Without supporting it even slightly. What is the problem with people having a document containing a debate with to blatant arguments like taken from retorics A?


The fact that such options are even on the table is not acceptable.


Are they realy on the table, not just standpoints for causing inhouse stir? They are on the table to cause debate, they are on the table to implement in DUST and WoD. They are on the table to blatantly slap people with the worst ever for EvE ideas; in an inhouse document meant to cause a debate/stir.
And this is the lead designer presenting the worst things? I'am happy he knows EvE good enough to know what would be tremendously bad and argue for it to cause debate.
Just look at the rage in this thread, that is testament that he knows precisely what bad ideas are.



Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:24:00 - [2517]
 

Originally by: Vim
Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Originally by: Vim
I read that. That is the guy having the all pro transactions arguments. I can take and debate a pro whale hunting opinion if I'am to cause debate and reflection. Without supporting it even slightly. What is the problem with people having a document containing a debate with to blatant arguments like taken from retorics A?


The fact that such options are even on the table is not acceptable.


Are they realy on the table, not just standpoints for causing inhouse stir? They are on the table to cause debate, they are on the table to implement in DUST and WoD. They are on the table to blatantly slap people with the worst ever for EvE ideas; in an inhouse document meant to cause a debate/stir.
And this is the lead designer presenting the worst things? I'am happy he knows EvE good enough to know what would be tremendously bad and argue for it to cause debate.
Just look at the rage in this thread, that is testament that he knows precisely what bad ideas are.



It's nice that you can keep the faith up. Sad

Horace Nancyball
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:27:00 - [2518]
 

Originally by: Isis Soryu
You're ******ed. Literally brain damaged. How recent would I have to have been subbed for my opinion to matter then? 1 day ago perhaps? A week? Your whole argument boils down to "You aren't subbed you don't matter trolololol" I've played this game for 5+ years and I know perfectly well what will happen. CCP will add in their non-vanity items, they will have an advantage to entice buyers, and then they will become FotM just like anything that is better than something else. Just like lasers and just like projectiles after them. Only this time you'll get to pay for it. Keep on trolling though, your so far out of touch I have no interest in talking to you.


Wow....and when I say "wow" I mean I assume that is where you come from? You know SO much don't you? You can actually see into the future? You really must be so rich winning the lottery week after week? Like I said. When you can discuss the current game situation with first hand knowledge and not fuelled by a bin load of second hand adolescent emo-rage then maybe your rhetoric will have a little more substance.


Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:30:00 - [2519]
 

Originally by: Horace Nancyball
Originally by: Isis Soryu
You're ******ed. Literally brain damaged. How recent would I have to have been subbed for my opinion to matter then? 1 day ago perhaps? A week? Your whole argument boils down to "You aren't subbed you don't matter trolololol" I've played this game for 5+ years and I know perfectly well what will happen. CCP will add in their non-vanity items, they will have an advantage to entice buyers, and then they will become FotM just like anything that is better than something else. Just like lasers and just like projectiles after them. Only this time you'll get to pay for it. Keep on trolling though, your so far out of touch I have no interest in talking to you.


Wow....and when I say "wow" I mean I assume that is where you come from? You know SO much don't you? You can actually see into the future? You really must be so rich winning the lottery week after week? Like I said. When you can discuss the current game situation with first hand knowledge and not fuelled by a bin load of second hand adolescent emo-rage then maybe your rhetoric will have a little more substance.


Keep trollin, maybe someone else will bite.

Morgan Polaris
Posted - 2011.06.24 12:35:00 - [2520]
 

Originally by: Isis Soryu
Originally by: Horace Nancyball
Originally by: Isis Soryu
You're ******ed. Literally brain damaged. How recent would I have to have been subbed for my opinion to matter then? 1 day ago perhaps? A week? Your whole argument boils down to "You aren't subbed you don't matter trolololol" I've played this game for 5+ years and I know perfectly well what will happen. CCP will add in their non-vanity items, they will have an advantage to entice buyers, and then they will become FotM just like anything that is better than something else. Just like lasers and just like projectiles after them. Only this time you'll get to pay for it. Keep on trolling though, your so far out of touch I have no interest in talking to you.


Wow....and when I say "wow" I mean I assume that is where you come from? You know SO much don't you? You can actually see into the future? You really must be so rich winning the lottery week after week? Like I said. When you can discuss the current game situation with first hand knowledge and not fuelled by a bin load of second hand adolescent emo-rage then maybe your rhetoric will have a little more substance.


Keep trollin, maybe someone else will bite.


It's hard to say this with a straight face...

Keep it on topic guys.


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