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ExcalibursTemplar
Caldari
Citadel Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:46:00 - [211]
 

Edited by: ExcalibursTemplar on 22/06/2011 22:46:34
Originally by: Picard Facepalm
For the second time in 24 hours, this is directed at CCP.

/facepalm


Lmao thank you thats about the only thing ive laughed at all day to do with this game.

Dr Lebroi
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:46:00 - [212]
 

Golf eh CCP, know how a golf club works? You have to mow the grass and keep the bunkers clean, you have to respond to the suggestions of your players and members and you have to keep the people that pay to play the game happy because they ARE your club. If you don't, then all you've got it a big frackin empty field that no one is interested in at all.

Jerry Pepridge
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:46:00 - [213]
 

Originally by: Isil Rahsen
Tears


QQ more nerd, i got a long day of work ahead of me & i need to laugh at saps like you crying about **** that makes no difference to actual gameplay.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:46:00 - [214]
 

Originally by: Picard Facepalm
For the second time in 24 hours, this is directed at CCP.

/facepalm


Nobody cares, given the price of AUR items and CCP's recent behaviours.

Everybody expects the worst now.


Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr
Iure Divino
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:47:00 - [215]
 

There's a huge problem with the idea of microtransactions in any MMO, especially one with a subscription fee. The problem - it betrays the idea of a MMORPG as a whole. An RPG's purpose is to allow a person to become as great and awesome as he can, regardless of who he is in real life. I can be anyone I want to be. Even if you aren't a "Roleplayer", you still participate in that basic part of an RPG. In an MMORPG, you develop that person through hard work and time spent in the virtual world. The only real-life constraint is time, and that's even alleviated by EVE's awesome real-time skill training system.

If CCP does indeed continue down this path, then the MMORPG status of EVE will be a lie. Sure, there are lots of people. But now the idea of being a whole new person is being thrown out. Your in-game character is just an extension of who you are in real life. If you're a person who can afford these added costs, you can do anything in the microtransaction model. However, this inevitably cheats those who do not want to invest anything besides time. If non-vanity microtransactions make a rise in EVE, it will be more about who has the most free cash, and not about who really learns and puts time into the game. Also, the argument that PLEX from in-game -> AURUM makes this legitimate is bogus, seeing as the PLEX comes from a GTC bought in real money anyway.

However, we can't react to this junk by all ragequitting at the earliest mention of mass-implementation of microtransactions. If the OP's quotes from the article in question are correct, that's what the people pushing the microtransactions want. This game is still fun. This latest expansion hasn't killed it, although I do miss spinning my ship in station...Sad Really, what we need to do is make it clear that the EVE playerbase is still committed to the old EVE, even if a majority of CCP developers and business consultants are not. Just wait and be ready to give CCP feedback on this junk, and let them know that we will not stand an unfair game advantage from microtransactions.

Dograzor
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:47:00 - [216]
 

Reading through all the stuff that has been going on, I just wonder, howcome CCP manages to screw themselves over 3x in the last weeks? Arum, monetizing apps, and now this leak. Seriously, are you on a shoot yourself in the foot Guinness book of records tour? At this point I just wonder if any damage control is going to cut it... bah.

J'J'J'Jita
Ch'Ch'Ch'Chia Corp
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:49:00 - [217]
 

Edited by: J''J''J''Jita on 22/06/2011 22:48:56
Ya'll are getting pretty angry about a document that just says "we're gonna give microtransactions for things which do not provide an in-game advantage a try."

I'd like to see the statistics about the percent of trolls which say they are unsubbing versus those who actually do (hint: people are raging just to prevent CCP from taking it into the realm of affecting game balance, or because they're unhappy CCP isn't giving everyone 1 AUR vanity items which would instantly make incarna valueless as an expansion).

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:49:00 - [218]
 

Originally by: J'J'J'Jita
Ya'll are getting pretty angry about a document that just says "we're gonna give microtransactions for things which do not provide an in-game advantage a try."

I'd like to see the statistics about the percent of trolls which say they are subbing versus those who actually do (hint: people are raging just to prevent CCP from taking it into the realm of affecting game balance, or because they're unhappy CCP isn't giving everyone 1 AUR vanity items which would instantly make incarna valueless as an expansion).


Didn't you read this bit?

"One other service we’re looking at is selling faction standings.
We want to offer convenience for a price"


George Gallante
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:50:00 - [219]
 

all you guys on this forum complaining and quitting their n accounts are just a very small number in ccp's wallet. most players will continue to play and pay subs, buy the vanity items no matter how expensive they are and swallow anything that comes in the next years

always been like that, always will be. you won't make a change, spam the forums, quit your accounts or boycot the fanfest. ccp will walk this path to the end, like it or not

Isil Rahsen
Gallente
Ferrum Superum
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:50:00 - [220]
 

Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: Isil Rahsen
Tears


QQ more nerd, i got a long day of work ahead of me & i need to laugh at saps like you crying about **** that makes no difference to actual gameplay.
Who's crying ******? I don't give a **** what CCP do, only used my 4 hour reactivation to get in some lulz with idiots like you.

Jerry Pepridge
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:51:00 - [221]
 

Originally by: Isil Rahsen
Who's crying ******? I don't give a **** what CCP do, only used my 4 hour reactivation to get in some lulz with idiots like you.


Your crying. Laughing

teach me.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:51:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: J'J'J'Jita
Edited by: J''J''J''Jita on 22/06/2011 22:48:56
Ya'll are getting pretty angry about a document that just says "we're gonna give microtransactions for things which do not provide an in-game advantage a try."

I'd like to see the statistics about the percent of trolls which say they are unsubbing versus those who actually do (hint: people are raging just to prevent CCP from taking it into the realm of affecting game balance, or because they're unhappy CCP isn't giving everyone 1 AUR vanity items which would instantly make incarna valueless as an expansion).


Don't forget the bit about new ammo for aur purchase. Somehow I don't think it's going to be snowballs.

Ms Freak
Amarr
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:52:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Picard Facepalm
For the second time in 24 hours, this is directed at CCP.

/facepalm


lol - seriously - lol Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy

Judicator Saturnius
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:52:00 - [224]
 

Originally by: George Gallante
all you guys on this forum complaining and quitting their n accounts are just a very small number in ccp's wallet. most players will continue to play and pay subs, buy the vanity items no matter how expensive they are and swallow anything that comes in the next years

always been like that, always will be. you won't make a change, spam the forums, quit your accounts or boycot the fanfest. ccp will walk this path to the end, like it or not


Absolute truth, but if the changes are legit and the gravy pipe is neigh on the horizon i'm packin up half a dozen accounts. Drop in the bucket for sure, but as long as i'm not wasting my cash on the new second-life I really don't care.

QT McWhiskers
EdgeGamers
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:52:00 - [225]
 

The problem right now is this. This bulletin, whether true or not, has shown CCP in a very bad light. No matter what they SAY right now, no one will believe them. However the silence over this bulletin is more damning than a denial.

CCP, right now you need to clarify some things to your customers.

Are the topics of this bulletin true?

Did this bulletin get leaked from one of your employees?

Has the bulletin been altered?

These are all questions that need an answer. But not just words either. They need actions too. First and foremost being the fact that the only thing to enter the plex store are vanity oriented and provide no game bonus whatsoever no matter how minute or no matter how small.

No items every being sold in the plex market that people can use in game for PVE or PVP, other than paint jobs.

This bulletin is very bad for your PR department, and something needs to be said soon or you risk losing several high profile customers and the throngs of people who will follow them.

Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:52:00 - [226]
 

You guys ever google the name of the CCP Global Chief Financial Officer

Joe Gallo


made me chuckle..

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:52:00 - [227]
 

Originally by: Ms Freak
Originally by: Picard Facepalm
For the second time in 24 hours, this is directed at CCP.

/facepalm


lol - seriously - lol Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy


Yeah, lets give CCP ideas like this... that can't be bad at all.


Whim Aqayn
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:53:00 - [228]
 

Saw this coming.
Will take actions to never let this happen if possible.
If it goes life EVE will be a thing of the past.

Isil Rahsen
Gallente
Ferrum Superum
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:53:00 - [229]
 

Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: Isil Rahsen
Who's crying ******? I don't give a **** what CCP do, only used my 4 hour reactivation to get in some lulz with idiots like you.


Your crying. Laughing

teach me.
Can't teach a derp like you anything but to faceroll the keyboard with *I TROLOLOL U!!1* but that's ok, it's not your fault you're special.

Nimbat
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:54:00 - [230]
 

Wow this thread is growing so freaking fast now. Very Happy

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:54:00 - [231]
 

Originally by: Nimbat
Wow this thread is growing so freaking fast now. Very Happy


It's not called a Threadnaught for nothing :)


Kelsi Corynn
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:54:00 - [232]
 

Just going to leave this here......




Spaceville!


Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:55:00 - [233]
 

No idea if it's legit, but it is certainly in line with CCP latest actions. I was saying it from the start - you let MT in and in no time MT will devour the whole game. It's called greed. Skirts and boots are not the last - there will be ammo, ships and modules (and faction standings). BizDev is working extra hours to destroy Eve.

leth ghost
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:56:00 - [234]
 

ccp's silence says alot i think lol

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:56:00 - [235]
 

Originally by: Estephania
No idea if it's legit, but it is certainly in line with CCP latest actions. I was saying it from the start - you let MT in and in no time MT will devour the whole game. It's called greed. Skirts and boots are not the last - there will be ammo, ships and modules (and faction standings). BizDev is working extra hours to destroy Eve.


I say let them destroy eve. It's the only way to be sure.

Just sit back and enjoy the train wreck.


Caladan Broood
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:57:00 - [236]
 

The slope is too steep here. If you allow faction standing to be bought then SP will be right around the corner. How about buying sov points next?

Eliniale
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:57:00 - [237]
 

Originally by: Whim Aqayn
Saw this coming.
Will take actions to never let this happen if possible.
If it goes life EVE will be a thing of the past.


The very sad truth of the matter is that you are wrong, what will happen is that eve as we know it will end. And instead will be filled up with a lot of snobs pumping money in this game and showing off their golden sneakers to one another.

It doesn't need to be that way ofc. But it's one of the many possiblilties that might happen

Tutskii
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:57:00 - [238]
 

The funny thing is that CCP is sacrificing their userbase for a mythical one that will magically come from the ether and give out ponies and unicorns for everyone.

CQ is supposedly the bait for this.

Now lets think, for every person that quits, a bunch of alt accounts go too. Whether those alts are paid with money or PLEX, CCP is getting money.

To replace them, they need to get one new account per every account that quits, then.

But look around. There is EVE marketing everywhere but EVE player growth is linear at best. Despite massive marketing, EVE just doesn't seem to pull new people, and when it does, to retain them.

Will a single room with nothing to do, which looks terrible even at max settings, and microtransactions that are completely out of whack with reality change this?

I have a hard time believing so.


Garrick Konquero
ImmCo
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:58:00 - [239]
 

Shocked

Of all the expansions I've experienced, this one has been the least fun to play, but the most entertaining to "watch".

Ricardo Gonzalo Montalban
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:58:00 - [240]
 

If this is real, I'm quiting and going back to Elite.


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