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Dante024781
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:07:00 - [2341]
 

Originally by: CCP Pann
The newsletter was not fake.


I actually stumbled and almost fell over when I read this.

Arya Greywolf
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:07:00 - [2342]
 

CCP Pann's apology and response seems kind at first and it seems she really cares, but if you are reading her responses further, it's BS because she is just deflecting every question/issue.

On top of that, she put the PRICE of the Noble store as priority number 1... REALLY?

Her first response pretty much says, "I'm not a developer so I can't answer any development [essentially every issue we have] questions so I'm going to ignore those and hope you guys chill out and forget about all of this. Enjoy your door!"

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:08:00 - [2343]
 

Originally by: CCP Pann
The newsletter was not fake.


Quoting this to help the poor idiots who're still meatshielding CCP see the light.

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:08:00 - [2344]
 

There's not much she can say; She's in PR/CM. Her primary job is not making the game, it's dealing with the players. There's a huge difference. Really, the apology should not have been posted by her. Not because she's not cut out to respond, but because she doesn't deserve to take the flames.

Illuminaty
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:11:00 - [2345]
 

Originally by: Monaco Franze
CCP Infidel


Pure gold.

Cancel Align NOW
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:13:00 - [2346]
 

Edited by: Cancel Align NOW on 24/06/2011 01:14:00
It is time for the OP to change the title of this thread to:

CCP Confirm the Evenews24 bulletin is correct

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:13:00 - [2347]
 

Originally by: Black Dranzer
There's not much she can say; She's in PR/CM. Her primary job is not making the game, it's dealing with the players. There's a huge difference. Really, the apology should not have been posted by her. Not because she's not cut out to respond, but because she doesn't deserve to take the flames.


I actually feel pretty bad for her. This is a terrible day at work for anyone.

Los Quinton
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:13:00 - [2348]
 

Just a game...

Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:14:00 - [2349]
 

Edited by: Telvani on 24/06/2011 01:18:36
You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription.

Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on XXXXXX

Your characters will be stored safely and be ready for you to enjoy again should you decide to return.

If you feel that this cancellation has been made in error, you can quickly and easily reopen your account by clicking below.

Arya Greywolf
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:14:00 - [2350]
 

Originally by: Black Dranzer
There's not much she can say; She's in PR/CM. Her primary job is not making the game, it's dealing with the players. There's a huge difference. Really, the apology should not have been posted by her. Not because she's not cut out to respond, but because she doesn't deserve to take the flames.


Fair enough, so why does CCP put her under the rug? Get a real developer out here to answer our issues!

And if they won't, then we know they have Pann out here to F*CK with us!

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:16:00 - [2351]
 

Originally by: Arya Greywolf
Fair enough, so why does CCP put her under the rug?

Because that's her job; She's out there taking the flames because that's what she's paid to do. That doesn't mean she deserves the fire. It's just what she has to do. The best you can do is be polite to her and tell her that you want the blood of the people responsible, not the designated meat shield.

Sojet
Gallente
The Seal Cub Clubbing Club.
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:18:00 - [2352]
 

You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription.

Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on XXXXX

Your characters will be stored safely and be ready for you to enjoy again should you decide to return.

If you feel that this cancellation has been made in error, you can quickly and easily reopen your account by clicking below.

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:19:00 - [2353]
 

Originally by: Token Afrodude
Edited by: Token Afrodude on 23/06/2011 22:57:57
Originally by: Velicitia
Originally by: Illwill Bill
That Trinity trailer sure brought back memories.Sad


for anyone too young to have been there when Trinity came out.

WATCH THIS



really makes you wonder wtf happened Sad


Crying or Very sad

isca
Gallente
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:22:00 - [2354]
 

5 years....

i really am at a loss as to what to say...

Don't give a **** about the vanity stuff. If people with a crapton of isk need to burn it on extrashinies then fine by me. Once the faction standing purchases and other gamebreaking crap comes in, i'm off...

CCP Turborg, you have a lot to answer for. Make your first post a good one...

HoboWithAShip
They That Are
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:22:00 - [2355]
 

Well, it looks like CCP's reply has become a threadnaught of its own, so I'm guessing that this thread wont reach 100 pages. Too bad.

Madeiner
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:22:00 - [2356]
 

Edited by: Madeiner on 24/06/2011 01:22:36
Originally by: Sojet

If you feel that this cancellation has been made in error, you can quickly and easily reopen your account by clicking below.


lol

Susitna
Caldari
The Tuskers
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:23:00 - [2357]
 

Edited by: Susitna on 24/06/2011 01:24:56
Opps wrong thread

M Blanc
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:25:00 - [2358]
 

+1 to addressing the leaked issue of 'Fearless' and to stating for once, honestly, the nature of your long-term plans for microtransactions in Eve.

Monaco Franze
Jelly Kings
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:26:00 - [2359]
 

Originally by: Arya Greywolf
Get a real developer out here to answer our issues!
And if they won't, then we know they have Pann out here to F*CK with us!


this would probably cost u a lot of aurum Very Happy

mobius nm
Minmatar
Empyrean Engineering
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:26:00 - [2360]
 

Originally by: Myra2007
Originally by: Token Afrodude
Edited by: Token Afrodude on 23/06/2011 22:57:57
Originally by: Velicitia
Originally by: Illwill Bill
That Trinity trailer sure brought back memories.Sad


for anyone too young to have been there when Trinity came out.

WATCH THIS



really makes you wonder wtf happened Sad


Crying or Very sad



Confirming, I too literally shed a tear the first time I saw this trailer.
Because all of it was mine, and I could do ANYTHING.

CCP, you killed that magic and wonder on 2011.06.21

Joe Skellington
Minmatar
Matari Legion Holding
Matari Legion
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:35:00 - [2361]
 


LordElfa
Gallente
Golden Lyon Warriors
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:36:00 - [2362]
 

Originally by: Lord Caledon
EVE Online Subscription Cancelled

You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription.

Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on ******.

Your characters will be stored safely and be ready for you to enjoy again should you decide to return (NOT LIKELY)


Wow, at this rate it'll be safe to fly through lowsec by morning. YEAH!ugh

Mitchello
B O R G
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:39:00 - [2363]
 


Probably Alt
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:41:00 - [2364]
 

How many subs did they see in their "metrics" that they decided to rush some people out to talk with customers I wonder?

Doc Fury
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:48:00 - [2365]
 

This is how it's going to probably go down:

CCP will placate the rioting masses and say MT will only ever be for vanity items. Much spin and weasel-words will be used.

CCP will compartmentalize more things in EVE development so leaks and the like will be less likely to happen. Development of MT for non vanity items will continue, but in near secrecy. To quote CCP manifest: "Arum is here to stay".

CCP will go back to working on their other two games and we will get more weaksauce mini patches that don't really address anything relevant to what the players have been asking for, while the MT machine starts to build momentum.

Next year when DUST is released and does not draw the numbers CCP gambled on, they are going to turn on the MT for game altering items they have been working on all along, even though they said they would not. This could also happen sooner, they are hemorrhaging cash trying to juggle 3 games where only one is laying golden eggs.



mobius nm
Minmatar
Empyrean Engineering
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:52:00 - [2366]
 

Originally by: Doc Fury
This is how it's going to probably go down:

CCP will placate the rioting masses and say MT will only ever be for vanity items. Much spin and weasel-words will be used.

CCP will compartmentalize more things in EVE development so leaks and the like will be less likely to happen. Development of MT for non vanity items will continue, but in near secrecy. To quote CCP manifest: "Arum is here to stay".

CCP will go back to working on their other two games and we will get more weaksauce mini patches that don't really address anything relevant to what the players have been asking for, while the MT machine starts to build momentum.

Next year when DUST is released and does not draw the numbers CCP gambled on, they are going to turn on the MT for game altering items they have been working on all along, even though they said they would not. This could also happen sooner, they are hemorrhaging cash trying to juggle 3 games where only one is laying golden eggs.





Pretty much this, except they planned on bilking the **** out of the Dustbunnies right from the get go. In fact, that was going to be one of the key driving points of the IP so say the rumors. They thought they could build TF2 in Space, and while they're at it why not see if they could fund it all by experimenting on Eve first.

I'm Down
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:53:00 - [2367]
 

guys guys, come on, they gave us 70 dollar virtual 1 piece glasswear. How can you be mad. There's no global recession after all right?

Chromoburst
Posted - 2011.06.24 01:58:00 - [2368]
 

Edited by: Chromoburst on 24/06/2011 02:03:10
This is total BS. First time I've seriously considered quitting eve. CCP take note: This thread represents a reasonable sampling of your customer base. If you don't understand the perspective represented here you should seriously consider how your financial goals are impacting your understanding of your client. This idea blows.

Skills should determine the appearance and abilities of a player not thier secular job or personal finances. The impact of plex on this is mitigated by a persons skills. There is only so much you can do with billions of isk on a new account. Adding even vanity items for real world cash brings the real world financial means of a person into eve in a very visible way. I dont want people knowing im poor in game. K. And I dont want to know that my enemies have tons of expendable income in RL. This whole Idea is just terrible.

Pat Morrison
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:02:00 - [2369]
 

Originally by: Probably Alt
How many subs did they see in their "metrics" that they decided to rush some people out to talk with customers I wonder?


Not the unsubs - they don't care about those. They're trying to forestall the bad press, as each burned player tells other potential revenue sources not to start playing, and news sources start noticing something's going on.

Pat Morrison
Posted - 2011.06.24 02:05:00 - [2370]
 

Originally by: Doc Fury
This is how it's going to probably go down:

CCP will placate the rioting masses and say MT will only ever be for vanity items. Much spin and weasel-words will be used.

CCP will compartmentalize more things in EVE development so leaks and the like will be less likely to happen. Development of MT for non vanity items will continue, but in near secrecy. To quote CCP manifest: "Arum is here to stay".

CCP will go back to working on their other two games and we will get more weaksauce mini patches that don't really address anything relevant to what the players have been asking for, while the MT machine starts to build momentum.

Next year when DUST is released and does not draw the numbers CCP gambled on, they are going to turn on the MT for game altering items they have been working on all along, even though they said they would not. This could also happen sooner, they are hemorrhaging cash trying to juggle 3 games where only one is laying golden eggs.





Yup, that's how I expect it'll go.


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