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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:59:00 - [1021]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
If you send to Chribba you MUST indicate the clause: "VAERT DONATION"


Is Chribba going to keep playing after they screwed him so bad?

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:02:00 - [1022]
 


flapie 2
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:07:00 - [1023]
 

Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 09:53:44



Eve is turning into the most expensive DLC milking game ever in the history of gaming.



A single item can cost more then 30 days game time.



Get a live dude, or atleast something to get you laid bro.
Feels sucky to get scammed dont it, how does it feel to be on the other end of the beating stick for a change ?

*ontopic*
Reading the part about Dust makes me a bit worried indeed, specially the first part of it.
Still think most people here should take a chil pill/sig or drink (or whatever get you going), cause all this forum PvP doesnt suit most of you at all. Repeating the same **** over and over isnt gonna help, leaving EVE wont help, spamming even more wont help (cause there hiding atm annyways). Maybe iff some people where a bit more mature about this, we might have allready had a responce from CCP in a mature way, thats how mature people work.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:10:00 - [1024]
 

Originally by: flapie 2
Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 09:53:44



Eve is turning into the most expensive DLC milking game ever in the history of gaming.



A single item can cost more then 30 days game time.



Get a live dude, or atleast something to get you laid bro.
Feels sucky to get scammed dont it, how does it feel to be on the other end of the beating stick for a change ?

*ontopic*
Reading the part about Dust makes me a bit worried indeed, specially the first part of it.
Still think most people here should take a chil pill/sig or drink (or whatever get you going), cause all this forum PvP doesnt suit most of you at all. Repeating the same **** over and over isnt gonna help, leaving EVE wont help, spamming even more wont help (cause there hiding atm annyways). Maybe iff some people where a bit more mature about this, we might have allready had a responce from CCP in a mature way, thats how mature people work.



So, a single item does not cost more than 30 days game time?

I must be looking at the wrong NEX market.


Tejal Charu
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:10:00 - [1025]
 

Originally by: flapie 2
Maybe iff some people where a bit more mature about this, we might have allready had a responce from CCP in a mature way, thats how mature people work.


I agree, CCP are surely mature business men who will take a stance on this topic as soon as possible, right? That's why we already have an official statement from them saying this is true/false, right?

Randomize All
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:11:00 - [1026]
 

When your government wants to raise the retirement age to 70, they don't tell you it's going up to 70.
They tell you it's going up to 80.

Then you threadnaught about 80.
Then they have a review, and a few years of policy fine tuning, then they put the retirement age up to 66. And everybody goes "PHEW! THANKFULLY IT DIDN'T GO UP TO 80!"
Then it goes up to 67, 68, 69 then 70.
And you all go "WE WON! THEY DIDN'T GET TO 80!"

Alaric T'Sun
Minmatar
Aphelion T'Sun
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:12:00 - [1027]
 

I'm glad CCP thinks they can do it better than SOE, but in the traditional sense, that's what we call 'hubris'.

You should never presume that you're going to upend your game and hordes of people will come running back to you. It hasn't worked for a single game over the long term. It looks good on paper because thousands of bot/spam accounts log in, but eventually all the real players leave and you're left in the what not to do column like D&D Online and Galaxies.

EvE has been around for 8 years, who in their right mind would think think this is a good idea?

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:13:00 - [1028]
 

Originally by: Randomize All
When your government wants to raise the retirement age to 70, they don't tell you it's going up to 70.
They tell you it's going up to 80.

Then you threadnaught about 80.
Then they have a review, and a few years of policy fine tuning, then they put the retirement age up to 66. And everybody goes "PHEW! THANKFULLY IT DIDN'T GO UP TO 80!"
Then it goes up to 67, 68, 69 then 70.
And you all go "WE WON! THEY DIDN'T GET TO 80!"


Best way is to retire while working :)

Every office training course and meeting is a retirement day out :)


Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:15:00 - [1029]
 




Hands up who Microtransaction PURCHASED a QUAFE T-shirt again?



Feels good doesn't it?

Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:16:00 - [1030]
 

but..but...i wanted to see the stream in highquality :(((

Tetronomis
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:17:00 - [1031]
 

ahahahaha this "fearless" newsletter is absolutely delightful. Working in a 5000+ collaborators company I laugh at this kind of boasty, full of horse**** internal communications every other month, but it's even more hilarious when a workshop like ccp try to look Google pretending to be bigger than they actually are. My HR doesn't put that much :effort: I'll send them a copy of your fearless. No lies, I really enjoyed yours. Not only the content of this letter is laughable for reasons you don't seem to comprehend (which is hilarious too), but the format makes it even more entertaining. Like the small hexagonal portraits of some "employees of the month": it's awesome. I can picture the employee shaping the pictures. That's my candy right there. The first paragraph of Peri Desai in the edito is typical. I mean if I were a "CCPer" I'd fantasize to smash her face with a shovel while whistling the 9th symphony, but from my perspective it's just pure gold. Oh CCP you bring the word failure to a whole new level.

Well well with the great north war over the forum-sex was getting low and I feared I'd have to find some other source of fun for my morning coffee. But HEY! CCP you never fail to deliver I'll give you that!

now I'd appreciate if someone release the older "fearless" newsletters... please

leth ghost
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:18:00 - [1032]
 

**** didnt expect to see this topic still open when i got up and still no reply from ccp, must be knee deep in ****e

Jonny Utrigas
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:20:00 - [1033]
 

Originally by: leth ghost
**** didnt expect to see this topic still open when i got up and still no reply from ccp, must be knee deep in ****e


They're looking for the waders still to get through it.

Vladimir Ilych
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:20:00 - [1034]
 

"Not all virtual purchases will focus on customization, some will simply be new items, ammunition, ships, etc. that can be purchased outright."

"Incarna cannot be considered a product distinct from other parts of EVE. Incarna and flying in space are merely aspects of EVE...in virtual sales we must all adopt this way of thinking. Thus we will not and cannot focus on virtual sales only within the Incarna evironment, nor build that evironment around such sales, rather we will effect a universal strategy of micro-sales throughout the EVe experience."


If the above becomes true then CCP will have lost themselves two accounts.

Tla Atij
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:21:00 - [1035]
 

They're probably deciding on how :fearless: they actually are. From the looks of it, not very.

Carmine Lady
Amarr
Sinners.
Yarr Collective
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:22:00 - [1036]
 

Edited by: Carmine Lady on 23/06/2011 10:24:55
still no blue bar, come on ccp say something. if you haven't said anything before the 40th page then well thats just you with your head in the sand.

edit: and you should rename the company to Head In The Sand Productions with the tagline: "we run away from everything and what we dont run away from we whitewash with spin and rhetoric"

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:24:00 - [1037]
 


I'm sitting here laughing at CCP

Then I think I have paid for a remaining 111 days time :(


Datei Naru
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:24:00 - [1038]
 

Edited by: Datei Naru on 23/06/2011 10:30:59
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/JXY962D

Here is a survey you can take to see how much we love the current attitude and direction of EVE online.

flapie 2
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:25:00 - [1039]
 

Originally by: Miilla


So, a single item does not cost more than 30 days game time?

I must be looking at the wrong NEX market.




Lool just keep on being a 5 year old m8, youll get the kindergarden someday.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:27:00 - [1040]
 

Originally by: Jonny Utrigas

They're looking for the waders still to get through it.


They're stuck at "ba" like the guy in Aliens 3 who drops the detonator in a hall full of accelerant.

They'll be there for a few days yet while they figure out just how screwed they are.

Some recent examples: BP Deepwater Horizon, Fukushma Nuclear Reactor.

Holy One
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:29:00 - [1041]
 

Originally by: Arrs Grazznic
The second microtransactions can be used to gain real advantage (ships, ammo, etc.) rather than Ken and Barbie fashion I will let my account expire and retire from Eve.



Agreed. I'm not gonna rage lyrical just nod. Also, I should also point out that the moment I am asked to pay a sub AND pay for new features as MT, not as regular releases of content as we have enjoyed previously (which is the way its going now) I'll also quit.

Thanks for the read and let's see how it goes.

Saving Face
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:29:00 - [1042]
 

Originally by: Miilla

I'm sitting here laughing at CCP

Then I think I have paid for a remaining 111 days time :(




Quite similar feelings here Crying or Very sad

ExcalibursTemplar
Caldari
Citadel Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:29:00 - [1043]
 

I had an idea instead of everyone just canceling there accounts how about with any left over game time you have on your account we all crash the economy. Seriously remove all your goods from the market cancel all your trades and lets all f#ck up the market. If the economy goes **** up and no one can buy anything due to crazy crazy prices or lack of supply it could make the game unplayable and have even more people on here raging.

leth ghost
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:30:00 - [1044]
 

so euro gamer are on to the story thats good its getting out there how long can ccp just ignore everything Linkage

Carmine Lady
Amarr
Sinners.
Yarr Collective
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:31:00 - [1045]
 

Originally by: Saving Face
Originally by: Miilla

I'm sitting here laughing at CCP

Then I think I have paid for a remaining 111 days time :(




Quite similar feelings here Crying or Very sad


luckily I dont have as long as that but i wish I could delete my account, i dont wish to be affiliated with CCP anymore.

Jaroslav Unwanted
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:33:00 - [1046]
 

Read it, not the document but the posts there...

Find it slightly disturbing.

Hopefully i wont be alive at the time this project become reality, so i dont have to fear about finding some other game to play.

PS. Please keep your vision of what to do in life is worth it and what is not. Its your opinion i dont share.

Ranita Drell
Intaki Liberation Front
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:34:00 - [1047]
 

I'm still really amused at contrast between NEX pricing and what Scott Holden says in the newsletter. I imagine a conversation like this took place:

CCP Molock: OK, so what are we going to charge for these items?
CCP Zinfandel: Well, first let's set the ceiling. Which item should we charge the most for?
CCP Soundwave: The monocle is visible on your DED passport thing, right? The part that other players will actually see. So let's go with that.
CCP Molock: I guess that makes sense. So how much should we charge? We decided that 1 PLEX would be 3500 aurum, so I'd say about a hundred and sev--
CCP Zinfandel: THIRTY THOUSAND AURUM!
CCP Molock: What?! Oh -- you're joking, right?
CCP Zinfandel: No, you see, it's a cybernetic monocle. You wouldn't want to put something cheap in your eye socket, right?
CCP Molock: But do even the most expensive faction implants in the game cost that much I don't think?
CCP Soundwave: Scott is right--
CCP Molock: Yeah, like I was saying, it really shouldn't be more than maybe two hun--
CCP Soundwave: I think it should only be about half that.
CCP Molock: Half of two hund-- wait, what? You mean the monocle should cost 15000 aurum?
CCP Zinfandel: Cybertech like this monocle is sacred to the Amarr, normally only available to the nobility. 15000 seems kind of cheap.
CCP Molock: But that's still crazy -- you could buy a capital ship for that much -- or a monocle in real life. It needs to be way lower.
CCP Soundwave: Let's just make it an even 12000.
CCP Molock: But our players are going to think we've gone insane with greed ... only a handful of people will buy it and we won't even profit on it.
CCP Soundwave: If that's the case we can just cut the prices by a third and we'll look reasonable and magnanimous. It's win/win.
CCP Molock: Ugh, I guess ...
CCP Soundwave: Plus, the when we start selling Noble Singularity L Charges for an aurum apiece, everyone will see it as a bargain, and won't think twice about making it their standard ammo!

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:34:00 - [1048]
 

Originally by: Quetazoid
Edited by: Quetazoid on 22/06/2011 21:07:52
nice leak.

and I agree with the statement Greed is Good:

lets explore the possibility of having to buy a item, for Example a faction POS with micro-plex.

Use ISK, convert to plex, convert to arum, buy POS.

How different is that to:

Use ISK, buy POS?

Infact, the richer get poorer (PLEX prices go up), that faction POS (or sub) will cost more.
The Poorer become richer (many sell PLEX for ISK) more expensive PLEX means more money for people who do MT.

So given the above paragraph, can someone point out the evil here? All I see is more of a equalizer between the rich and the poor (both in and out of game).


Are you daft? In the latter you can get eth POS by ingame means only. In the former, someone needs to use RL money to unlock the item. Maybe not you spesifiaclly, but someone does.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:34:00 - [1049]
 

Originally by: Saving Face
Originally by: Miilla

I'm sitting here laughing at CCP

Then I think I have paid for a remaining 111 days time :(




Quite similar feelings here Crying or Very sad


Plus 20 billion isk worth of plex :)

Thing is, I like Incarna, even if it runs slower than Crysis lol but this MT crap... makes me puke.

It is so sickening I have suspended my Eve App SDK I was building and gona publish for app builders and 2 Eve apps and had a few more idea's that would grow with their API.


Jefferson H Clay
Posted - 2011.06.23 10:35:00 - [1050]
 

Edited by: Jefferson H Clay on 23/06/2011 10:37:53
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus


Some recent examples: BP Deepwater Horizon, Fukushma Nuclear Reactor.



Perhaps not that bad. Nodoby has died after all. But yes, they are probably looking at account information and figuring out just how many quitters have actually pushed bootan.

Frankly and in all honestly I haven't, yet, done that. But depending on how CCP respond and resolve this I'm definetly cancelling further payments on an account that's been around since Exodus/Cold War or not if they get it right (obviously).

It's that "if they get it right" bit they're probably trying to figure out. After all they pretty much just NGE'd their one product and that's going to take a lot of back pedaling.


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