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Jaek Uhedeen
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:48:00 - [1]
 

I was just courious what would be best for solo pvp, Lets put the isk cost and insurance payout aside. I was thinking the Phobos would be the best choice due to its 4 mids , I was thinking I could add dual webs and keep my target in place better over the other 2 and this would allow my blasters to track better.. Does anyone have any better advice , Someone who is more used to dealing with these ships?

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:53:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Omara Otawan on 22/06/2011 02:54:01

Thorax, because you gonna die a lot.

I like the shield one best, its reasonably cheap for a suicide cruiser. For extra speed and damage, you can drop the two tracking enhancers for another magstab and a nanofiber, but I like this one best.

[Thorax, nano]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


You might maybe want to go for ec-600 drones and no warriors instead, they are very powerful with the scoop-redeploy trick, especially 1v1.

Goose99
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:04:00 - [3]
 

Vigtilante.Cool

Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
Posted - 2011.06.22 04:33:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Roosterton on 22/06/2011 04:35:03
Thorax is the cheap option, for when you're learning and know you're going to die a lot. It puts out good dps, but is quite thin and close range, in-your-face, leaving it with few disengagement capabilites.

The Phobos isn't really pointful for solo work, it only really excels in armor fleets where you need a bubble. You've got lots of tank, but are slow and put out less DPS than a Thorax.

Deimos is lol-worthy most of the time, with not enough fitting space to field anything really worthwhile, and overall crappy stats for a HAC.

Vigilant is really your best option once you get rich. It gets a very nice web bonus to stop things from running away from your close range blasters, and can field full neutrons along with a decent tank, being one of the highest DPS cruisers in the game. It is, however, on the very expensive side.

Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:16:00 - [5]
 

It's actually quite interesting how good of a Deimos like phobos you can make. I call it the Feimos. Tanks better, slight reduction in dps i recall. But hey, it's not as shocking! plus it's capable of catching pods all on it's own. Thus, I give it the "Great solo pvper" award.

Just need to find a diemost fit, slap it onto the phobos, and?? profit?

FlameGlow
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2011.06.22 08:18:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Hayaishi
It's actually quite interesting how good of a Deimos like phobos you can make. I call it the Feimos. Tanks better, slight reduction in dps i recall. But hey, it's not as shocking! plus it's capable of catching pods all on it's own. Thus, I give it the "Great solo pvper" award.

Just need to find a diemost fit, slap it onto the phobos, and?? profit?

It'll probably end up with 150% of buffer tank to 3/4 of DPS and 80% speed of deimos

Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood
Posted - 2011.06.22 08:41:00 - [7]
 

Phobos has no drones. No drones on a cruiser = dead to a frigate = fail solo ship.

DeadDuck
Amarr
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:34:00 - [8]
 

Just use a Shield Hurricane and you will be fine. In my last solo roaming, started in Tenal and went just to Delve, passing by Drones Regions, Cache, Detorid, etc... to be caught on my return home to a AAA 30 man gang in Providence. Managed to survive several gate camps, did have nice duels, scored some kills, etc. Those 3 days were nice. Cool

Firh
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:07:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Omara Otawan
Edited by: Omara Otawan on 22/06/2011 02:54:01

Thorax, because you gonna die a lot.

I like the shield one best, its reasonably cheap for a suicide cruiser. For extra speed and damage, you can drop the two tracking enhancers for another magstab and a nanofiber, but I like this one best.

[Thorax, nano]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


You might maybe want to go for ec-600 drones and no warriors instead, they are very powerful with the scoop-redeploy trick, especially 1v1.


Wat is dis?!? A Thorax fit that doesn't suck in MY EVE-Forums?

Granted I'd go with third magstab and a named TE, also EC-600s for sure.

Jaek Uhedeen
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:58:00 - [10]
 

Thanks for all the feed back. I will prob just go with the vigilant. I do like the thorax but not so much for solo. Back in the day not with this account. Me and about 5 friends would take out thorax fleets and would gank everything we came across that was solo,It was just a sucide flee tbut I dont recall any of us ever losing them. Now a fleet of thorax's with a few drams would be nice to see!!!

Livinglegend
Gallente
Trigger works
Destiny Corrupted.
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:46:00 - [11]
 

Well Deimos is mainly for Melt your face DPS, and trust me some fits really will melt your face off.
Phobos is like a Deimos; Slightly tougher than the thorax. Bit more DPS, little slower.
Thorax is sex. Especially with a full rack of T2 ions and a Burst Aerator.

Goose99
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:20:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Livinglegend
Well Deimos is mainly for Melt your face DPS, and trust me some fits really will melt your face off.
Phobos is like a Deimos; Slightly tougher than the thorax. Bit more DPS, little slower.
Thorax is sex. Especially with a full rack of T2 ions and a Burst Aerator.


Oye, the Thorax... she aren't what she used to be. In the olden days, you launch your 8 heavy drones and **** the face before melting it.Sad

Tony SoXai
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:39:00 - [13]
 

[Deimos, KillMost]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

EC-600s

it has like 700-800 dps with overloading and 30kish ehp and good speed, 1800 ms

Precisionist
Posted - 2011.06.23 06:43:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Precisionist on 23/06/2011 06:45:54
Edited by: Precisionist on 23/06/2011 06:45:30
The above post is how I fit mine, - 1 dmg mod for PDU t2, and 1 small nos in high, as I dont have perfect pg skills, shield upgrade 4 and adv wep up 4.

But ya I also fly mine with invul in gangs instead scramb, great DPSer, solo I would but a scrambler, but wouldnt take it out unless I have my falcon alt, as it would get chewed up very fast.

If you wanna solo, if you are rich go for vigi(and experienced) if not stay with thorax, deimos is meh solo, im sure some people have some nice fits, but for most engagements you will get smokt.

And phobos is a HIC not made for solo, slow no drones, ez target.

Dorian Tormak
M0N0LITH
Posted - 2011.06.23 07:15:00 - [15]
 

My first and last Thorax setup..

I can't use medium T2 blasters yet so that's why it had small neutrons with void, but in that killmail, I went solo after the vaga, overheated mwd and scram, got a jam nearly instantly, and began chipping away at his shields rather quickly, that is until his fellow in a Proteus undocked and I had to make my (rather easy) escape by burning away. And then just as I was spamming warp to a nearby celestial, DICONNECT. I quickly logged back in to find myself reaching hull and being exploded. GF you BASTERDS!

Point is, I am absolutely sure I would have PWNED that Vaga had his buddies not been there. Can the Rax solo? I really think so, and the Deimos can probably do better.

Dark Voynix
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:34:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Livinglegend
Well Deimos is mainly for Melt your face DPS, and trust me some fits really will melt your face off.
Phobos is like a Deimos; Slightly tougher than the thorax. Bit more DPS, little slower.
Thorax is sex. Especially with a full rack of T2 ions and a Burst Aerator.


the main problem with diemost is that it dies agaist frig sized ships. I almost killed one (active armor tanked + cap boosted) soloing with a wolf. Killed all drones before die and then he could not hit me at all (he had blasters). He was in deep hull when came reinforcements ( rapier + firetail), then i lost but not before killing and podding the firetail. Wink


 

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