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Morgan Polaris
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:38:00 - [1141]
 

Originally by: Linis Erens
You seem to be annoyed that CCP isn't charging what you want them to charge for pixels. Sadly no business works that way.


Just annoyed by paying a subscription fee for a game that doesn't really change for 18 months, doesn't get the fixes it actually needs, then ends up being set up as framework for cash grabbing. You're right, it doesn't work that way.

Ed Sullivan
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:39:00 - [1142]
 

Originally by: Haruki Tekitsu
Originally by: Umega
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Umega
Wow..

You'd think this was Dominion.. were SO many things took place that effected so many aspects of the game.

Lag monster
Pirate ship changes
SoV mechanics
Mom buff
Titan AoE removal

HEY MORON

It's awfully hard to complain about the game mechanic related content in an expansion that DOESNT FCKING HAVE ANY


Hence the point..

The game, for the grand scheme of things that makes EVE, EVE.. is the same. People are crying and quiting.. with things that are completely irrelevent.

Sorry you can't afford what you want.. given your CAP DEROGATORY response, you're angry inside from being hurt. What did CCP do to you exactly, hmmm? Quite honestly, you and a lot of people need to blame your parents for raising spoiled, greedy, 'my way or die' attitude lil pricks.

No one is going to care what you look like. Only you. That goes for everyone that gives a **** about noble/aurum. It's irrelevent.

CQ/Incarna will grow in time, as they have stated Repeatedly.. and if your machine can't handle it, again.. blame yourselves.

These forums are so full of self rightous asshats that believe their **** spring roses and their $ goes further cause they have a mouth. 50 cents USD a day equates to complete virtual entitlement? Anyone that quits.. I ask that you donate your subs value to feeding childern or homeless animals that are happy with nothing more than a friendly smile and a glass of water.

If EVE didn't die after what Dominion did.. Incarna isn't going to end up being a drop in the subdown-bucket. Being a drama queen solves nothing.. and CCP, or any company.. isn't going to pay attention to a couple rambling idiots going on and on with their army of alts about their disgruntled opinions while they still fork over money.

Going to quit over vanity.. get on with it folks. I look forward to the forums clearing up so rational people can get back to talking about the game that is EVE.

If my words offend any of you.. go talk to a mirror about it.

There are better ways to address concerns.


Applause for that post. Guys n gals if you dont want a 25 usd skirt just don't buy it. I wont for sure. Yes there is someone at CCP who is a total public relations noob. And lately someone who probably needs to be draged onto the carpet or fired. I like the new expansion. Look beyond the fluff for now. its gonna be groundbreaking.


It's not that we don't like the skirt. It's that CCP just basically told us 'I hate you'.

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:49:00 - [1143]
 

Originally by: Morgan Polaris
Originally by: Linis Erens
You seem to be annoyed that CCP isn't charging what you want them to charge for pixels. Sadly no business works that way.


Just annoyed by paying a subscription fee for a game that doesn't really change for 18 months, doesn't get the fixes it actually needs, then ends up being set up as framework for cash grabbing. You're right, it doesn't work that way.


For those saying that this is no big deal, think about the above. In one scenario, CCP could spend its income on maybe -one- side project, and really focus on making EVE better, growing EVE more, and fixing all of those bugs. This keeps a happy, healthy customer-developer relationship while allowing some room for future projects. In the current environment, space combat is competing for resources and money with the new walking in stations part of EVE, DUST, and WoD. CCP's income is 100% from EVE and its IP right now.

If nothing else, screwing with your only customer base by ignoring them if not a financially safe way to ensure your company exists in 5 years.

Linis Erens
Caldari
Proposition Thirteen
The Third Rail
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:54:00 - [1144]
 

Edited by: Linis Erens on 22/06/2011 23:54:30
Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Originally by: Morgan Polaris
Originally by: Linis Erens
You seem to be annoyed that CCP isn't charging what you want them to charge for pixels. Sadly no business works that way.


Just annoyed by paying a subscription fee for a game that doesn't really change for 18 months, doesn't get the fixes it actually needs, then ends up being set up as framework for cash grabbing. You're right, it doesn't work that way.


For those saying that this is no big deal, think about the above. In one scenario, CCP could spend its income on maybe -one- side project, and really focus on making EVE better, growing EVE more, and fixing all of those bugs. This keeps a happy, healthy customer-developer relationship while allowing some room for future projects. In the current environment, space combat is competing for resources and money with the new walking in stations part of EVE, DUST, and WoD. CCP's income is 100% from EVE and its IP right now.

If nothing else, screwing with your only customer base by ignoring them if not a financially safe way to ensure your company exists in 5 years.


What is the added income from cosmetic items going to used on? I don't know, you don't either but I doubt they are going to pocket it. Another revenue stream that in no way effects gameplay, is beneficial to the game as a whole.

Again I will say that I have no intention of buying anything, ever. (I've played like 600 hours of TF2, never bought a thing from the Mann Co Store either). I don't understand how anyone can think options are a terrible thing, especially when the income they generate can be beneficial for the business and the game as a whole.

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:02:00 - [1145]
 

Originally by: Linis Erens
I don't understand how anyone can think options are a terrible thing, especially when the income they generate can be beneficial for the business and the game as a whole.


Well, there are a few issues at hand. It's not just about the price, though the price -is- pretty terrible considering the real-life objects cost less than their digital counterparts.

That aside, there have been many clashes between player and developer in the last couple of years over a lack of focus on making EVE's core spaceship play better. The excuse for 5 years has been Incarna, with those shouts becoming louder when things got bad what, 18 months ago? Then the first iteration of Incarna comes, and we get a FPS-eating room to stand in, and insanely prices cosmetic items.

The outcry would be far less if we were also getting large amounts of actual game content aside from Incarna, but those resources and money are being spent on DUST and WoD. CCP said many times that EVE would not suffer from this and that everything would be okay, and recent actions only show more explicitly how untrue this statement is.

Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:23:00 - [1146]
 

Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Originally by: Linis Erens
I don't understand how anyone can think options are a terrible thing, especially when the income they generate can be beneficial for the business and the game as a whole.


Well, there are a few issues at hand. It's not just about the price, though the price -is- pretty terrible considering the real-life objects cost less than their digital counterparts.

That aside, there have been many clashes between player and developer in the last couple of years over a lack of focus on making EVE's core spaceship play better. The excuse for 5 years has been Incarna, with those shouts becoming louder when things got bad what, 18 months ago? Then the first iteration of Incarna comes, and we get a FPS-eating room to stand in, and insanely prices cosmetic items.

The outcry would be far less if we were also getting large amounts of actual game content aside from Incarna, but those resources and money are being spent on DUST and WoD. CCP said many times that EVE would not suffer from this and that everything would be okay, and recent actions only show more explicitly how untrue this statement is.


Just remember the PLEX BUBBLE CCP in their Trolling created and believed would last forever, increasing expenditure, even the supposed "leak" doccument, if its real hints at this.

CCP is aiming to grab as much money as they can by switching the target population of the Game.

Dreya Renthold
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:40:00 - [1147]
 

Over 1100 replys and 39 pages. With not one of them being from CCP.
*sigh*

Alexi Blue
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:42:00 - [1148]
 

Originally by: Dreya Renthold
Over 1100 replys and 39 pages. With not one of them being from CCP.
*sigh*


They are too busy plotting new ways to make more money.

Ori Empress
United Systems of the Allegiance
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:47:00 - [1149]
 

Greed is such a powerful force. Crying or Very sad

Dunarad
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:59:00 - [1150]
 

This is bull****.

Vin Hellsing
Posted - 2011.06.23 01:00:00 - [1151]
 

OK, CCP. Since it's obvious your greed is driving these prices, let me point something out to you with an example of proper microtransactioning.

$5 USD for One shirt: People are very persuaded to buy it. 10,000 people buy. Company makes $50,000.

$15 USD for one shirt: People are offended, and those with more money than sense buy it. 500 customers. Company makes $7,500.

Now, which would you prefer to see?

A $50,000 income on lower prices because you are appealing to thrifty customers who are living on decided reduced incomes in their lives (HELLO, **** ICELAND'S ECONOMY. THE GLOBAL ECONOMY IS ALSO ****ED. TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, DUMB****S!), where you are able to persuade them to open their wallets for a single PLEX purchase that would grant them a number of items and perks in the Noble Exchange.

Or would you rather have this?

$7,500 from people who have more money than sense and a very, very angry playerbase that would be apt to gut you idiots alive at the next CCP event?


Think carefully, morons. The economist you have on your payroll only looks at numbers, not at sense. He is a "Money over sense" person, and that is what ****es us all off.

Fire the moron. Also, fire whoever thought it was a bright idea to try to coerce us into buying multiple PLEX to purchase a SINGLE. VANITY. ITEM.

P.S. "Vanity" does not always equate to "EXPENSIVE-ASS DOUCHEBAGGERY".

xavier69
Gallente
Stark Enterprises LLC
Posted - 2011.06.23 01:02:00 - [1152]
 

aye 70 dollar appearnce items for your wow eve characters...


THATS GEY AS HELL !

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2011.06.23 01:14:00 - [1153]
 

Originally by: Vin Hellsing
OK, CCP. Since it's obvious your greed is driving these prices, let me point something out to you with an example of proper microtransactioning.

$5 USD for One shirt: People are very persuaded to buy it. 10,000 people buy. Company makes $50,000.

$15 USD for one shirt: People are offended, and those with more money than sense buy it. 500 customers. Company makes $7,500.

Now, which would you prefer to see?

A $50,000 income on lower prices because you are appealing to thrifty customers who are living on decided reduced incomes in their lives (HELLO, **** ICELAND'S ECONOMY. THE GLOBAL ECONOMY IS ALSO ****ED. TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, DUMB****S!), where you are able to persuade them to open their wallets for a single PLEX purchase that would grant them a number of items and perks in the Noble Exchange.

Or would you rather have this?

$7,500 from people who have more money than sense and a very, very angry playerbase that would be apt to gut you idiots alive at the next CCP event?


Think carefully, morons. The economist you have on your payroll only looks at numbers, not at sense. He is a "Money over sense" person, and that is what ****es us all off.

Fire the moron. Also, fire whoever thought it was a bright idea to try to coerce us into buying multiple PLEX to purchase a SINGLE. VANITY. ITEM.

P.S. "Vanity" does not always equate to "EXPENSIVE-ASS DOUCHEBAGGERY".


I absolutely love that you crunched the numbers here.

Thanks for mathematically torpedoing the idea that CCP is trying to rip off everyone and fill their pockets with greed.

Does anyone here think that $50,000 means anything at all to CCP?? What a joke. For a company that brings in millions a year in subscription fees, the amount of revenue brought in by microtransactions in the form they've implemented is completely irrelevant in the greater scheme of things.

And yes, vanity most certainly does equate to expensive ass douchebaggery. Look at anyone with a pair of Jimmy Choo shoes, Louis Vuitton purse, or Prada shades.

This was never intended to be monocles for the masses. It was always intended as monocles for the l33t.

Hildegaard Russell
Posted - 2011.06.23 01:22:00 - [1154]
 

Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen
For a company that brings in millions a year in subscription fees, the amount of revenue brought in by microtransactions in the form they've implemented is completely irrelevant in the greater scheme of things.

(emphasis mine)

This is the point many are making. Given the dev blog said that these vanity sales would both test the market for further Incarna customisable content and fund the development of it, those of us who would like more content and who would buy more content are deeply concerned that CCP has made a decision that will strangle the income they've told us will pay for more content development.

If greed is driving these prices, it's pretty stupid, short-sighted greed.

Umega
Solis Mensa
Posted - 2011.06.23 01:25:00 - [1155]
 

Originally by: Vin Hellsing

P.S. "Vanity" does not always equate to "EXPENSIVE-ASS DOUCHEBAGGERY".


It doesn't? I don't know.. this thread, and honestly your own posts.. would sure make an outsider think otherwise.

I can pull numbers out of my ass too.. and since these are the forums and everyone is right, my numbers are correct..

85% of the EVE populace doesn't actually give a **** about vanity items one way or the other. Yup.. 85%.

The flaming hordes are correct in their blind rage, naturally.. its how video game forums work. **** you CCP.. being a company trying to make money, that's so wrong. You're such *******s for trying to make money off us while we give it to you to play your product, its still OUR money even tho we gave it to you and you should spend it OUR way. **** you CCP for not forcing us to buy things we don't need.. yeah you heard, **** you CCP for that! **** you CCP for listening to 'everyone' ***** about instation last year, but 'everyone' not wanting it this year.. WAAAH.. WAAAAAAH.. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

You, CCP.. are obviously the stupid ones. Not us, the rambling 'majority'! It's so clear.. don't you get it, CCP. WAAAAAAAAH!!!!!

WHY AREN'T YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO US!!??!!11!!

Oh god.. OH GOD.. OH MY GOD.. why isn't CCP responding! I need their attention.. I demand it Now!

They don't care about me.

----

EVE forums are a professor's wet dream on where to direct his students for a psychological experiment/analysis mid-term.

Bellatrix Khanista
Posted - 2011.06.23 01:26:00 - [1156]
 

Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
OK, CCP. Since it's obvious your greed is driving these prices, let me point something out to you with an example of proper microtransactioning.

$5 USD for One shirt: People are very persuaded to buy it. 10,000 people buy. Company makes $50,000.

$15 USD for one shirt: People are offended, and those with more money than sense buy it. 500 customers. Company makes $7,500.

Now, which would you prefer to see?

A $50,000 income on lower prices because you are appealing to thrifty customers who are living on decided reduced incomes in their lives (HELLO, **** ICELAND'S ECONOMY. THE GLOBAL ECONOMY IS ALSO ****ED. TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, DUMB****S!), where you are able to persuade them to open their wallets for a single PLEX purchase that would grant them a number of items and perks in the Noble Exchange.

Or would you rather have this?

$7,500 from people who have more money than sense and a very, very angry playerbase that would be apt to gut you idiots alive at the next CCP event?


Think carefully, morons. The economist you have on your payroll only looks at numbers, not at sense. He is a "Money over sense" person, and that is what ****es us all off.

Fire the moron. Also, fire whoever thought it was a bright idea to try to coerce us into buying multiple PLEX to purchase a SINGLE. VANITY. ITEM.

P.S. "Vanity" does not always equate to "EXPENSIVE-ASS DOUCHEBAGGERY".


I absolutely love that you crunched the numbers here.

Thanks for mathematically torpedoing the idea that CCP is trying to rip off everyone and fill their pockets with greed.

Does anyone here think that $50,000 means anything at all to CCP?? What a joke. For a company that brings in millions a year in subscription fees, the amount of revenue brought in by microtransactions in the form they've implemented is completely irrelevant in the greater scheme of things.

And yes, vanity most certainly does equate to expensive ass douchebaggery. Look at anyone with a pair of Jimmy Choo shoes, Louis Vuitton purse, or Prada shades.

This was never intended to be monocles for the masses. It was always intended as monocles for the l33t.


50K a year means a lot to a company with as much debt as CCP. Especially when the people behind those 50K dollars start bad mouthing the game, giving it bad press causing far MORE people to never give the game a shot, costing CCP far more than 50K a year.

Jimmy Choo shoes.... maybe 10x more expensive than a "cheap" version.

A freaking skirt costing hundreds of MILLIONS of isk, with which you could buy multiple *battleships* or other fun things that do stuff in game?
A monocle that costs more than some capital ships? No, that's just stupid. At least Jimmy Choo's shoes are USEFUL in reality. This is beyond a "fashion" statement.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.06.23 01:29:00 - [1157]
 

Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
OK, CCP. Since it's obvious your greed is driving these prices, let me point something out to you with an example of proper microtransactioning.

$5 USD for One shirt: People are very persuaded to buy it. 10,000 people buy. Company makes $50,000.

$15 USD for one shirt: People are offended, and those with more money than sense buy it. 500 customers. Company makes $7,500.

Now, which would you prefer to see?

A $50,000 income on lower prices because you are appealing to thrifty customers who are living on decided reduced incomes in their lives (HELLO, **** ICELAND'S ECONOMY. THE GLOBAL ECONOMY IS ALSO ****ED. TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, DUMB****S!), where you are able to persuade them to open their wallets for a single PLEX purchase that would grant them a number of items and perks in the Noble Exchange.

Or would you rather have this?

$7,500 from people who have more money than sense and a very, very angry playerbase that would be apt to gut you idiots alive at the next CCP event?


Think carefully, morons. The economist you have on your payroll only looks at numbers, not at sense. He is a "Money over sense" person, and that is what ****es us all off.

Fire the moron. Also, fire whoever thought it was a bright idea to try to coerce us into buying multiple PLEX to purchase a SINGLE. VANITY. ITEM.

P.S. "Vanity" does not always equate to "EXPENSIVE-ASS DOUCHEBAGGERY".


I absolutely love that you crunched the numbers here.

Thanks for mathematically torpedoing the idea that CCP is trying to rip off everyone and fill their pockets with greed.

Does anyone here think that $50,000 means anything at all to CCP?? What a joke. For a company that brings in millions a year in subscription fees, the amount of revenue brought in by microtransactions in the form they've implemented is completely irrelevant in the greater scheme of things.

And yes, vanity most certainly does equate to expensive ass douchebaggery. Look at anyone with a pair of Jimmy Choo shoes, Louis Vuitton purse, or Prada shades.

This was never intended to be monocles for the masses. It was always intended as monocles for the l33t.


Their current prices are 10X what their competitors are charging for similar vanity items. Your argument does not hold water.

Nilania Telshua
Amarr
Hedion University
Posted - 2011.06.23 01:36:00 - [1158]
 

Edited by: Nilania Telshua on 23/06/2011 01:37:18
Originally by: Umega
Originally by: Vin Hellsing

I can pull numbers out of my ass too.. and since these are the forums and everyone is right, my numbers are correct..
85% of the EVE populace doesn't actually give a **** about vanity items one way or the other. Yup.. 85%
....
EVE forums are a professor's wet dream on where to direct his students for a psychological experiment/analysis mid-term.




Well ~80% is the more correct number with (n > 1.500)
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1395464&page=1


Maybe you should study harder ?
On the other hand for some patients to much knowlegde is never healthy...


Vin Hellsing
Posted - 2011.06.23 01:51:00 - [1159]
 

Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
OK, CCP. Since it's obvious your greed is driving these prices, let me point something out to you with an example of proper microtransactioning.

$5 USD for One shirt: People are very persuaded to buy it. 10,000 people buy. Company makes $50,000.

$15 USD for one shirt: People are offended, and those with more money than sense buy it. 500 customers. Company makes $7,500.

Now, which would you prefer to see?

A $50,000 income on lower prices because you are appealing to thrifty customers who are living on decided reduced incomes in their lives (HELLO, **** ICELAND'S ECONOMY. THE GLOBAL ECONOMY IS ALSO ****ED. TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, DUMB****S!), where you are able to persuade them to open their wallets for a single PLEX purchase that would grant them a number of items and perks in the Noble Exchange.

Or would you rather have this?

$7,500 from people who have more money than sense and a very, very angry playerbase that would be apt to gut you idiots alive at the next CCP event?


Think carefully, morons. The economist you have on your payroll only looks at numbers, not at sense. He is a "Money over sense" person, and that is what ****es us all off.

Fire the moron. Also, fire whoever thought it was a bright idea to try to coerce us into buying multiple PLEX to purchase a SINGLE. VANITY. ITEM.

P.S. "Vanity" does not always equate to "EXPENSIVE-ASS DOUCHEBAGGERY".


I absolutely love that you crunched the numbers here.

Thanks for mathematically torpedoing the idea that CCP is trying to rip off everyone and fill their pockets with greed.

Does anyone here think that $50,000 means anything at all to CCP?? What a joke. For a company that brings in millions a year in subscription fees, the amount of revenue brought in by microtransactions in the form they've implemented is completely irrelevant in the greater scheme of things.

And yes, vanity most certainly does equate to expensive ass douchebaggery. Look at anyone with a pair of Jimmy Choo shoes, Louis Vuitton purse, or Prada shades.

This was never intended to be monocles for the masses. It was always intended as monocles for the l33t.


Their current prices are 10X what their competitors are charging for similar vanity items. Your argument does not hold water.



Pretty much. If I'm going to spend $15-30 on a vanity item, it'll be for something I can actually enjoy. For example, say...the Team Fortress 2 MannConomy "The Emperor's Assortment", which costs about $30. What does it come with? Let's see... *opens the box* Eight items: they're weapons, hats, and other useful gadgets that have their own unique properties that are balanced in gameplay.

In EVE, I'd be spending that on a single stupid jacket that has no functionality.

So, as you can see, the decision-makers in CCP have some really ****ed up sense of currency metrics.


DeAdspAwN
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:01:00 - [1160]
 

People are buying this expensive garbage, look at contracts and look at the market. if people buy this stuff the genius that came up with the idea and the prices gets a pat on his back, and he gets to say "told ya the mooptards would go for it". CCP has yet again cornholed its customers. yeah CCP needs money to pay the guys to write more bad expansions, but...... they have done this in all wrong ways. here is how to fix it.
1.)reinburse the idiots that bought the expensive crap
2.)lower the price of the crap dramaticaly
3.) introduce way more crap (emo sunglasses, dresses for the crossdressers, pirate outfits, etc) its not that hard to texture and skin. people waited 18months for 8 items and a room.
4.) get players use to playing dress up by having clothing randomly drop. unique items (true sansha, darkblood, etc.)
5.) have old station set to default with station walking as a option next to ship fittings, agents, repair and all the other stuff
6.) fix all the bugs, maybe pay people who write bug reports in aurum.
7.) say that your sorry for insulting your customers.
8.) if you want to sell plex look at somer blink somer has to be in top 10 reason people buy plex.
9.) listen to what your customers want, if they are happy they will give you money.
10.) be honest when you cornhole the customers. don't lie and say things like "it was a bug" cough****ghost training*****cough

Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:15:00 - [1161]
 

Just steering this threadnought back to the front page.

Vin Hellsing
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:15:00 - [1162]
 

Originally by: DeAdspAwN
People are buying this expensive garbage, look at contracts and look at the market. if people buy this stuff the genius that came up with the idea and the prices gets a pat on his back, and he gets to say "told ya the mooptards would go for it". CCP has yet again cornholed its customers. yeah CCP needs money to pay the guys to write more bad expansions, but...... they have done this in all wrong ways. here is how to fix it.
1.)reinburse the idiots that bought the expensive crap
2.)lower the price of the crap dramaticaly
3.) introduce way more crap (emo sunglasses, dresses for the crossdressers, pirate outfits, etc) its not that hard to texture and skin. people waited 18months for 8 items and a room.
4.) get players use to playing dress up by having clothing randomly drop. unique items (true sansha, darkblood, etc.)
5.) have old station set to default with station walking as a option next to ship fittings, agents, repair and all the other stuff
6.) fix all the bugs, maybe pay people who write bug reports in aurum.
7.) say that your sorry for insulting your customers.
8.) if you want to sell plex look at somer blink somer has to be in top 10 reason people buy plex.
9.) listen to what your customers want, if they are happy they will give you money.
10.) be honest when you cornhole the customers. don't lie and say things like "it was a bug" cough****ghost training*****cough


I agree with this. I really do.

But instead of item drops, why not just make the clothing available via player manufacturers? I mean, look at Star Wars Galaxies. Players deployed their own factories so they could manufacture entire lines of clothing, weapons, droids, etc.

I don't see why CCP can't just do that here.

Quistis Noir
The Lotus Edge
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:21:00 - [1163]
 

I just checked dodexie, and there are some clothing items for sale, but from what I can see, no one has bought any clothes yet. Or if they did, no item has sold more then one copy. Is it like that at the other trade hubs? There is a monocle for 1275000000 isk availble.

Hojj0
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:23:00 - [1164]
 

Edited by: Hojj0 on 23/06/2011 02:28:41
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visableone
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:25:00 - [1165]
 

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2qu0vit&s=7

^^

Algathas
Minmatar
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:26:00 - [1166]
 


Hojj0
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:28:00 - [1167]
 


Ezekiel Amann
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:28:00 - [1168]
 

Somebody has been playing to friggen much Second Life if you think anyone will pay these prices. And the ones who do will just be looked at in the pub as the idiot in a slightly different color shirt.

Captain Alcatraz
Heretic Academy
B A N E
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:29:00 - [1169]
 

Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Originally by: DeAdspAwN
People are buying this expensive garbage, look at contracts and look at the market. if people buy this stuff the genius that came up with the idea and the prices gets a pat on his back, and he gets to say "told ya the mooptards would go for it". CCP has yet again cornholed its customers. yeah CCP needs money to pay the guys to write more bad expansions, but...... they have done this in all wrong ways. here is how to fix it.
1.)reinburse the idiots that bought the expensive crap
2.)lower the price of the crap dramaticaly
3.) introduce way more crap (emo sunglasses, dresses for the crossdressers, pirate outfits, etc) its not that hard to texture and skin. people waited 18months for 8 items and a room.
4.) get players use to playing dress up by having clothing randomly drop. unique items (true sansha, darkblood, etc.)
5.) have old station set to default with station walking as a option next to ship fittings, agents, repair and all the other stuff
6.) fix all the bugs, maybe pay people who write bug reports in aurum.
7.) say that your sorry for insulting your customers.
8.) if you want to sell plex look at somer blink somer has to be in top 10 reason people buy plex.
9.) listen to what your customers want, if they are happy they will give you money.
10.) be honest when you cornhole the customers. don't lie and say things like "it was a bug" cough****ghost training*****cough


I agree with this. I really do.

But instead of item drops, why not just make the clothing available via player manufacturers? I mean, look at Star Wars Galaxies. Players deployed their own factories so they could manufacture entire lines of clothing, weapons, droids, etc.

I don't see why CCP can't just do that here.


Cause CCP wants to sell the clothing through the NEX shop now. Player made clothing = less clothing bought from CCP for lol $$, so that'll never get introduced, at least not in a complete form

Those who are saying "if you dont like it dont use it" are short sighted, look ^

Melchon
Gallente
In dubio pro joesy
Posted - 2011.06.23 03:52:00 - [1170]
 

I wonder if the people that now say "but it is not that expensive, you can buy that stuff with isk" would hand me their firstborn for an old pair of my shoes. After all it doesn't cost them a thing (heck, I am even saving them some expenses).

Originally by: Ishnadriel
Edited by: Ishnadriel on 22/06/2011 00:09:25
I mean who is gonna buy a vanity item for 12.000 Aurum - 4 plex - 80$ dollars in real life money ?

Seriously... How bad is CCP for money ? This NEX prices are ridiculous...



Obviously CCP needs a lot of money fast. Just look at the trend in the last months (e.g. api costs for fan-devs etc.). Maybe tomorrow we finally get the announcement that each login now costs 25 cents (after all, you are causing load on the login server YARRRR!!).


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