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Enilonee
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:08:00 - [811]
 

Edited by: Enilonee on 22/06/2011 09:08:19
They obviosly sent a dev to go shopping and have a look at the prices.

Jeans starting at 20$.
Decent (sun)glasses available for around 65$.

So i'll keep going to some mall. I mean some real mall. Where i get real cloths for that very same money.

Mr Abstoss
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:08:00 - [812]
 

Srsly, CCP. NEX's prices are just a bad joke?! I mean what do you expect of this?
I feel like being farmed by you in terms of money...
Where is the cancel sub button?

Galandole Tsuramananda
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:09:00 - [813]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Galandole Tsuramananda
UGH IM SO ****ED OFF BECAUSE CCP IS FORCING ME TO BUY THESE CLOTHES WITH MY HARD EARNED MONEY/ISK AND EVERYONE WILL THINK I'M GAY BECAUSE I WAS FORCED TO BUY THIS AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL BE GAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BUY IT TOO--

What? We don't have to buy it?

You sure?


so if you eat at a taco bell. and they start selling taco with human meat. and chrage like 400$ a taco. It's ok becuase you don't have to buy that taco?becuase the other menu is still there?


No, I don't have to buy that taco because I can make a ****ing sandwich (aka not spend money on the problem), because I'm not being forced to buy the taco.

Lhanisa Khinan
Amarr
Morning Glory Media
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:11:00 - [814]
 

I honestly feel betrayed to have to make this post. Not because I was looking forward particularly to the NEX (I'd rather buy games off Steam, or magic cards, things I'll get more use out of - I plan on sustaining myself solely off ISK in this game eventually) nor because I like the idea of MT at all. I feel betrayed because, as recently as a few weeks ago, I had basically given EVE my implicit trust that regardless of how well their ideas worked out, their intentions were good. Of the game companies out there, basically only two others have managed to be worthy of that - Valve and CD Projekt RED. Now, my personal opinion isn't worth much on the public stage, but I wanted to say that just to illustrate how high I held CCP in my eyes, prior to this absolute **** up.

So, now, I feel like an ass. You went and made a liar of me within a month of my coming back to a game I only left for lack of time, and loved even in that year away. If you defend these prices, not only are you indefensible but you're irredeemably greedy. Reaching too far, making a critical mistake - these things are forgiveable if you fix the problem. Standing by it isn't.

All I'll say in closing is that a company far larger than you, with a far larger margin of "acceptable loss" to a new change, was beaten into submission by its own playerbase when they made a decision that playerbase reviled. The Real ID scandal should've been a lesson, and a cautionary tale, not just some forgotten footnote. But I won't try and make any far-reaching claims on behalf of other people that if you misstep further, we'll all quit playing. That's silly and I can't speak for those people.

For myself, though, much as it would pain me (because I truly do love this game), if you do go any further with this in a direction I disapprove of, I'll have to vote with my wallet. Whether that means anything in the grand scheme of things, who knows. But the ball's in your court.

Slatiska Wolfovna
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:12:00 - [815]
 

The problem is not that we should be happy because we're not forced to buy, but that we should be sad because we can't :'(
They're announcing a "great functionnality", but no one can enjoy it unless they're fat rich, so that's why there is such a ruckus, at 300 AUR any one could buy these stuff and would be happy with it... I guess :D

James Hawkins
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:13:00 - [816]
 

Originally by: Galandole Tsuramananda
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Galandole Tsuramananda
UGH IM SO ****ED OFF BECAUSE CCP IS FORCING ME TO BUY THESE CLOTHES WITH MY HARD EARNED MONEY/ISK AND EVERYONE WILL THINK I'M GAY BECAUSE I WAS FORCED TO BUY THIS AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL BE GAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BUY IT TOO--

What? We don't have to buy it?

You sure?


so if you eat at a taco bell. and they start selling taco with human meat. and chrage like 400$ a taco. It's ok becuase you don't have to buy that taco?becuase the other menu is still there?


No, I don't have to buy that taco because I can make a ****ing sandwich (aka not spend money on the problem), because I'm not being forced to buy the taco.


u missed the point mister ;)

fly safe

zero2espect
Amarr
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:13:00 - [817]
 

as usual i'd bet this slipped through Q&A. they wanted to have a discount sale but somebody messed up and instead of making everything 10% cheaper, they made everything 1000% more expensive. wait for the next patch.

The Bitchinator
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:14:00 - [818]
 

Originally by: Major Stallion
Originally by: Outlaw Jenner
Yup was planning on having some fun with the plexes I've had stockpiled but I'll just continue to play for free for the next 5 years instead of feeding the cash cow



you know even if you dont sell your plexes, CCP has already made money on the sale of them right?


Yes, but the sheer scope of what you're comparing that to is like comparing that guy who saw your sister in a polaroid once to one that shagged all three of your sisters, 3 times a day for a year.

James Vayne
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:14:00 - [819]
 

Edited by: James Vayne on 22/06/2011 09:16:38
Just posted this in a previous thread, more relavent here.

So if 1 PLEX gives you 3600 aur
but 300,000,000 ISK

and then if a monacle is 12,000 AUR

You need 4 plex (14400 AUR) to buy one.

14400 AUR is around 1.2 billion isk.

Which means that one monacle is roughly 1 billion isk.

That means one monacle is more expensive
than every ship I own in EVE. Which is a fair few,
including faction.

But not more expensive than my implants.

So I have to spend the same amount i'd end up
spending on a Slave Omega for what? A monacle?!

Seriously now. What universe exists where the
clothes on your back are worth more than your
spaceship?

ChaeDoc II
Gallente
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:17:00 - [820]
 

Originally by: Soden Rah
Originally by: Vasentic
Clearly this was designed as an isk sink from the start and I do not think CCP realistically thinks people will BUY plexes to pay for this garbage. If they do then please stop by my place so I can smack you in the head repeatedly with a sledge hammer.

This is most likely just to siphon isk out of the market as CCP seems to have been doing since the 0.0 and mission nerf


if that's the case then their must be an unbelievable amount of plex sitting around unused for them to sell any noticeable amount of clothing.
If they want most players to customise their chars then the price needs to be 3 orders of mag lower...

I am wondering if this is part of CCP's protect the market strategy... start them off ridiculously expensive then drop the price slowly till people start buying at an acceptable rate?


^This


Everyone was moaning and *****ing about the market prices for plex prior to Incarna. Can you imagine how fast they would go through the roof if everyone bought one just to convert it to Aurum?

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:18:00 - [821]
 

Originally by: Vin Hellsing

There are people like me who have a very low ingame income, and cannot afford to be spending every waking hour trying to sc**** together what little ISK we can. We have lives.


Than no monocle for you right now. Life is not fair, Eve is not fair. It's dog eat dog. To be rich, there are sacrifices. Or not, for some lucky privileged SOB's out there. However you get your isk, or whether you don't at all, isn't something CCP's going to worry about. They've given everyone the same set of tools for you to do whatever with, some people have lives and play casually and are more restricted to content, which is fine. Others are hardcore with 6 accounts running at once missioning, mining, whatever, or they simply have l33t real life jobs and sell plexes to buy all their ships (who do you think puts these thousands of plexes on the market to begin with??). This economic reality has been around since the beginnings of the plex system, I really think its only now hitting players what isk means in terms of RL cash, and causing these psychobilly freakouts. But its old news.

I'll share with you an important lesson - if you have a very low in-game income, you're either really new to the game, and I can guarantee you that will change with time, or you're simply failing bad and its hard to have pity.

Even if you're a casual player, monocles aren't impossible. You can make a billion+ in a day easy (As in 12 hours or less). With one toon. One account. No bots. Plenty of players out there are playing for free via the plex system, taking a single long night or a single weekend day a month to pay for their accounts.

Keep your chin up, you'll get that monocle someday! And not have to sacrifice your RL to do it. Unless you're bad at Eve.

James Vayne
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:19:00 - [822]
 

Edited by: James Vayne on 22/06/2011 09:20:03
Originally by: ChaeDoc II
Originally by: Soden Rah
Originally by: Vasentic
Clearly this was designed as an isk sink from the start and I do not think CCP realistically thinks people will BUY plexes to pay for this garbage. If they do then please stop by my place so I can smack you in the head repeatedly with a sledge hammer.

This is most likely just to siphon isk out of the market as CCP seems to have been doing since the 0.0 and mission nerf


if that's the case then their must be an unbelievable amount of plex sitting around unused for them to sell any noticeable amount of clothing.
If they want most players to customise their chars then the price needs to be 3 orders of mag lower...

I am wondering if this is part of CCP's protect the market strategy... start them off ridiculously expensive then drop the price slowly till people start buying at an acceptable rate?


^This


Everyone was moaning and *****ing about the market prices for plex prior to Incarna. Can you imagine how fast they would go through the roof if everyone bought one just to convert it to Aurum?


Yes, but the general aim isn't to start a a price where nobody at all will buy the product. They're not items that will imbalance the game or affect the 'real' eve market (ships, etc).

Glafri
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:21:00 - [823]
 

Wait, let me guess... You're going to iterate on those Aurum prices

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Sarina Berghil
Minmatar
New Zion Judge Advocate
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:21:00 - [824]
 

Edited by: Sarina Berghil on 22/06/2011 09:25:15
This is really funny, and really sad.

CCP doing their utmost to destroy their credibility, and peeing on the fanbase they used to be so proud of.

The only exclusive thing about NeX is the price. Looks more like a shop in an undeveloped country with most of the shelves being empty.

Obviously CCP seems to think we are stupid.


I have seen a lot of greedy attempts at 'monetizing' online communities, but CCP has set a new record. Great PR move.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:23:00 - [825]
 

Originally by: Slatiska Wolfovna

They're announcing a "great functionnality", but no one can enjoy it unless they're fat rich...


Don't forget, they need to be stupid too.

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:25:00 - [826]
 

I'm really disappointed in the prices, even more disappointed that the developers wasted their time not balancing the game and designing this waste of money.

No balance changes since December 2009, except of course for the minor rockets tweak in incursion.

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:27:00 - [827]
 

haven't read entire thread yet, but I'm working my way along..


If the items are easily destroyed, then prices will be low as there will be repeat purchases. As they aren't, prices are stupidly high.

Unless the store has a MASSIVE expansion of available items, prices will stay high. At the moment, with at most 5 usable items (female), if a single plex could have bought them all, the NEX would be pointless as a lot of people would probably have been willing to sink 1 PLEX into it. I reckon 100 items usable per gender would have dropped prices to 10% of current.

It does get ridiculous when the "men's sterling Dress Shirt (olive)" costs more $ than the Amarr T-shirtRolling Eyes

I think the NEX has just priced itself out of the market.






Anc Griever
Infusion.
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:29:00 - [828]
 

Aurum should be brought for straight rl currency, having no involvement with isk and plex at all until people put up the items on the market.

Prices should match those of games with MT stores - for instance league of legends you can buy a character skin for roughly 2 a pop, working with the current prices CCP have is just like wtf...

The people arguing "lol you don't have enough isk to afford it QQ more" have got the wrong idea entirely, the whole point of MT is to pay for things with real money on a 'micro' scale, paying small amounts for a piece of vanity. I don't expect to be paying more than my monthly subscription for a pair of boots.

Tallis Lindisere
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:31:00 - [829]
 

Edited by: Tallis Lindisere on 22/06/2011 09:33:04
Originally by: Black Dranzer
So what you're saying is that I can either buy a new suit or about five thousand rifters.

Hmm.


Well some optimist is selling a pair of black leather commando pants for 450,000,000ISK (not aurum)in one of the regions so you could buy those instead of 2250 Rifters :)

All you'ed need is the rest of the black leather gear and a whip and you could get a job with CCP Very Happy

EDIT* Any resemblance between my character pic and Anc's pic above me is purely coincidental Smile

Kyle Reel
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:31:00 - [830]
 

I'm hoping that the astronomical prices of vanity items are only a temporary measure to prevent excessive spikes in PLEX pricing. Expensive vanity items are bad, but having to pay 600kk ISK for a PLEX would be much, much worse. Hopefully the clothes introduced in the future will be cheaper with each iteration. I still hope that CCP is sensible and has the bigger picture in view at all times. Please CCP, don't let me down.

traktorgroove
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:33:00 - [831]
 

woke up, found that massively went with the story. thanks whoever sent it in also ;)

Rex Liberium
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:34:00 - [832]
 

A real vanity monocle costs $15. So its a 'bit' overpriced LOL.

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:36:00 - [833]
 

Originally by: Suitonia
I'm really disappointed in the prices, even more disappointed that the developers wasted their time not balancing the game and designing this waste of money.

No balance changes since December 2009, except of course for the minor rockets tweak in incursion.



LOL @ "balancing" in Eve. I hate to break it to you, but CCP never intended to make a game that is fair. Pretty sure the whole sandbox blob-if-you-have-1000-friends-and-roflstomp everyone factor has been in there from day 1.

The metagaming and endless ability to gank and be ganked is what seperates Eve from other MMO's. You may not like it, but that's the game. CCP allows, enables, and encourages this.

If you want fairness, or at least an insane ongoing attempt at producing homogenized "balanced" gameplay, there are other games that cater to this.


Dimitri Fukoyama
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:36:00 - [834]
 

Originally by: Yldrad
I don't get it. One day ago, people was complaigning about item mall. Now they're complaigning that they can't buy this stuff.

If it's to expensive, nobody buy it so micro-transaction will be a big fail and a big win for EvE Online no?


The point is that they think these prices are reasonable, that they are wasting dev time on this, and what it means for the direction CCP is taking. I dont even give a **** that im training T2 guns anymore in 3 weeks... thats how bad i think this all is, i unsubbed. On top of that, they just killed any anticipation i had over World of Darkness just thinking how they will gouge prices there. Masterstroke right there.

But hey, i dont give a **** about Dust not coming to PC anymore, so thats good right?

Atedar Kerane
Silentium Mortalitas
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:38:00 - [835]
 

I'm not as angry about the NEX prices as I'm worried about the future of CCP
They must be in some serious financial trouble to pull off a stunt like this.

I've seen other games offering vanity items before, and I found those to be overpriced. Seems like I was wrong... I believe I've now truly learned the meaning of the word "overpriced".

Wacktopia
Sicarius.
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:39:00 - [836]
 

Edited by: Wacktopia on 22/06/2011 09:39:51

So a set of clothing (probably made by robots for 0.00001 ISK) is somehow worth more than a mile-long carrier hull based on the exchange rate. Way to break immersion on top of every thing else that fails SO HARD about this mess of MT rubbish.

Mad

Ulair Memmet
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:41:00 - [837]
 

What the F**K CCP are you crazy????
A piece of clothing shouldnt surpass 5$/4

WOW EPIC FAIL

Khaed Duhn
Minmatar
The Kairos Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:46:00 - [838]
 

One request, if these prices do stay this high can CCP add in a 'point and laugh' emote for when we get a chance to interact with anybody dumb enough to buy these items.

Oh yeah and monocle or death ? ...hmm... death please Very Happy, it's like a reverse Eddie Izzard or something.

Arand Nersar
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:47:00 - [839]
 

Nex prices are good it means no one will use it and plex prices wall crash. They could fix cq by reducing prices by 10*, having shift for run and q,e strafe. i am happy with the fail it lowers plex prices.

Karontin Maysubile
Posted - 2011.06.22 09:47:00 - [840]
 

Originally by: Atedar Kerane
I'm not as angry about the NEX prices as I'm worried about the future of CCP
They must be in some serious financial trouble to pull off a stunt like this.

I've seen other games offering vanity items before, and I found those to be overpriced. Seems like I was wrong... I believe I've now truly learned the meaning of the word "overpriced".


If CCP wanted to make money off of this they would drop the prices so everyone and their dog would buy one. At the current rates they won't even sell enough cover the expense of creating them.

I am going to assume this is a mistake in the conversion rate until I hear some CCP input on this. Best guess is we are supposed to get 10x the amount of Aurum per PLEX than the current exchange rate. If that is the case I'm not sure how they are going to make it up to those who have already converted/spent the Aurum.


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