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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:55:00 - [421]
 

And the destruction of what was once one of the most respected and well-positioned MMO developers in the world continues.

heheheh
Phoenix Club
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:55:00 - [422]
 

Originally by: C2 H5 OH
THERE ARE NO STATIONS IN 0.0.



Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are stations in 0.0

Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:56:00 - [423]
 

well at least for all the MT haters out there, this means absolutely NOBODY will buy ANYTHING

Jalmon
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:56:00 - [424]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Also these are destroyed on pod death right?

Allegedly, NOT ANYMORE.
You keep them (the ones you are actively wearing) when you get podded (or, should I say, you get issued new ones), but they remain on the old clone body if you clonejump.
They can only be destroyed if you carry them in the cargo when the ship blows up.
It was a dev response in another recent thread.


waiting for someone to undock a Kestrel in Jita with 74 monocoles in cargo. Cool

Consortium Agent
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:56:00 - [425]
 

Oh, so *here's* where I should also put in my 2 cents on how much 'micro' transactions cost. :P

CCP, seriously, have you looked at any other game on the planet that has micro-transactions and said to yourselves 'Ya know, 'micro' means $1 or $2, but really don't you guys think it ought to be more like $60 or $80? Yeah, yeah... that's the ticket!'

If it costs you that much to pay people to make clothes for a game, then you clearly hired the wrong people. I mean, really? I can buy a real life wardrobe from wally world here in the US for 1/2 the cost of a single monocle.

*sigh*

Between this money grab and the money grab you're pulling with the 3rd party developers, can you blame your player base for accusing you of being nothing more than greedy asshats? Seriously?

Nevermind that you rushed YASPTM (yet another sh!tty patch to market), but you felt 12,000 AUR was an appropriate cost (3 plex worth) for a monocle. It's the smallest item in the shop, and it's the most expensive. Hilarity ensued when I went to the shop. I'd have bought one for all my toons across five accounts if the price has been right. It wasn't.

I will not be spending any money in the Noble Marketplace until such time as the prices reflect the 'micro' transaction they should. $80 isn't a micro-transaction... it's a transaction. Get it right ;P

Silly CCP... thought they could make $80 a monocle. Bahahahaha. You'll get exactly 3 customers. Dumbass #1, Dumbass #2 and Dumbass #3. Enjoy them. Each and every one of them.

Kerrisone
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:57:00 - [426]
 

Originally by: Toros Revoke
Edited by: Toros Revoke on 22/06/2011 01:53:58
You really can't help but laugh at this madness; one isk is meant to be more than a single person can earn in several lifetimes, in which case I've got the income of entire worlds in my wallet, Yet I can't afford new shoes...


CCP looks at you and wonders why you are such a poor piece of crap.

ifollowed through
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:59:00 - [427]
 

even if they just misplaced the decimal point it's still waaaaaaay tooo muych for a stupid ****in' monocle

Marwood Ford
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:59:00 - [428]
 

Just another voice in the crowd here, but I agree that this is bat**** insane. Shocked

Arista Shahni
Amarr
Murasaki Mining and Manufacturing
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:59:00 - [429]
 

Without fanfare... /agree

Way too expensive. Not to mention that in most other games with micro-transaction items, some of those items can actually DO something in game.

Does a fancy skirt add +1 Charisma?

No?

Okay then.

davet517
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:00:00 - [430]
 

I'm not getting the QQ here. Obviously, they mean for these things to be exclusive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but every year we have a tourney that generates cruisers and frigs that people buy for 20B and that they will never, ever fly.

So, not everyone gets to wear the monacle. It's a status symbol, like having an Adrestia in your hanger. If every other portrait you saw had one, nbd, but at these prices it'll be unusual. If that's the way CCP wants to play it V0V.

Chewiest Bong
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:00:00 - [431]
 

Originally by: Gothikia
Originally by: Lenore Leelu
Doesn't CCP employ an economist?
Is he on holiday?


Remember, it is an Icelandic economist...


Explains why the Icelandic economy was so ****ed up a few years back. I'm pretty sure that stuff they're smoking isn't really ice, but something else.

Isabel Dodson
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:00:00 - [432]
 

CCP's version of the classic Jita scam; accidentally add a 0 to the price.Razz

Scum Bum
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:01:00 - [433]
 

Every last one of you is DEAD WRONG! 1.2 Billion isk is nothing for a monocle. It's a monocle FFs! Get it? I simply went in to our Corp hanger, grabbed 2 Orcas and a Chrone, sold em and BAM! 1 unlimited edition monocle please. TYVM CCP for placing billion isk monocles in the game. I was gonna unsubscribe if you didn't. I can't believe how much better I feel now that I am no longer monocless. For all of you nay sayers, trust me on this. Go sell some Corp assets and get yourselves a billion isk monocle. Anyone can buy a Dread for a billion isk. But real men have always sported the monocle!

Krispy Dingo
Minmatar
The Night Crew
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:01:00 - [434]
 

Originally by: Toanfoal
Blame WoW for the prices.

They've been selling virtual teddy bears and ponies for 10-30 bucks now for months (a year even??).


CCP would be insane to not charge an arm and a leg for permanent cosmetic gear, because the market has shown that there are people out there who are willing to pay it.


Except that it isn't permanent. Clothing is destroyed with your pod.

stonewall ironside
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:02:00 - [435]
 

WTB my old station view back!!!

but thats probly a bill irl cash after you get all the aurum.

Sacred Klepton
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:02:00 - [436]
 

:ccp:

Kyra Felann
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:03:00 - [437]
 

Edited by: Kyra Felann on 22/06/2011 02:05:30
Originally by: Toros Revoke
one isk is meant to be more than a single person can earn in several lifetimes


Rolling Eyes

Not true at all--you're just being ridiculous.

Originally by: Krispy Dingo
Except that it isn't permanent. Clothing is destroyed with your pod.


Wrong. It's only destroyed when it's cargo, not when worn.

Captain Futur3
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:04:00 - [438]
 

I rofled a lot this night... patch is awesome Laughing

*i nearly have tears in my eyes cause of this crap*

Kurj Valdoria
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:04:00 - [439]
 

Originally by: davet517
I'm not getting the QQ here. Obviously, they mean for these things to be exclusive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but every year we have a tourney that generates cruisers and frigs that people buy for 20B and that they will never, ever fly.

So, not everyone gets to wear the monacle. It's a status symbol, like having an Adrestia in your hanger. If every other portrait you saw had one, nbd, but at these prices it'll be unusual. If that's the way CCP wants to play it V0V.


With the ships you get the sense that there are only 50 or less. Anyone can buy the clothing items and the only sense you get is they are as stupid as you are. By you I also mean the person who bought the clothing item, not you bro. I <3 you.


Toanfoal
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:04:00 - [440]
 

Originally by: davet517
I'm not getting the QQ here. Obviously, they mean for these things to be exclusive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but every year we have a tourney that generates cruisers and frigs that people buy for 20B and that they will never, ever fly.

So, not everyone gets to wear the monacle. It's a status symbol, like having an Adrestia in your hanger. If every other portrait you saw had one, nbd, but at these prices it'll be unusual. If that's the way CCP wants to play it V0V.


You're exactly right.

In fact my wife and I JUST got done talking (during this morning's patch wait of all things) about how (RL) rich people spend ridiculous amounts of money on clothing - she knows a seamstress who does work for some millionaire... the guy literally comes to town roughly once every 2 months and pays her hundreds of dollars to hem about 30 pairs of slacks. First off, they're probably very expensive pants... but the fact that he goes through 30 every couple of months... /boggle

There's money in catering to the uber wealthy in real life, why not in the virtual one, too.

Arklan1
Dunedain Rangers
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:05:00 - [441]
 

and this, ladies and gents, is why getting an everelated tattoo is a BAD idea. much as i love this game, i can't help but laugh at this. and i was considering buying some of the clothes, too. i mean sure, i'd throw a single into the aurum converter... but, this? no. i don't see ever throwing anything towards CCP ever again without some significant changes to this ****.

Soryn Kael
Chaos From Order
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:05:00 - [442]
 

The monocle shows up on your portrait right?


If so.. it's the absolute perfect item to rub it in people's faces that you have more isk than they do..

Malkev
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:06:00 - [443]
 

Confirming that this may be the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in a video game.

Chidori kun
Minmatar
Starship Operating BastardZ
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:06:00 - [444]
 

BTW if you do it right look at second live or IMVU how they done it IMVU a special people can buy there credits for a few dollars and so on.
You would have less of a out rage from users when you had investigated that.

Or had you given us the design tools to make our clothes our self and sell it for ISK or AUR on the market I bet you would also have made it a succes..

Silver Night
Caldari
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:06:00 - [445]
 

Assuming this isn't an epic troll by CCP:

Did someone not review how the economics and psychology of micro-transactions work?

It'd be fine if you have a couple of prestige items that were extremely expensive, and a wide selection of items that were even rather expensive (and I'm talking 350 Aurum on the latter, max)

For what you want for the monocle, or even for pants and a shirt, people could buy:

  • Actual pants and a shirt. In real life.

  • Portal 2.

  • Any other AAA PC title.

  • 3 copies of Minecraft.

  • About 10-20 items in any other micro-transaction store.

  • Four movie tickets.

  • A bottle of half-way decent liquor.

  • About 90 ****ty beers or 36 decent beers.

  • 50 quarter-pounders with cheese.

  • The better part of a week worth of groceries for one person.


I've been playing for a fairly long time, and I'm relatively wealthy IG, so I wouldn't be paying with RL cash anyway. But this is just silly.

Micro-transaction stores work on having a big selection and low prices - because remember CCP, they aren't costing you anything to sell over and over for $1 or $5 or whatever once they're released(Unless you did something deeply dumb like agree to a per-item fee to those aforementioned designers).

The sad part is, due to the way RMT is already set up in Eve, CCP could have gotten away with charging a couple times more than other stores - because people would just buy with ISK bought plex, and they would have made the same amount of money.

I think the idea of a micro-transaction vanity item store in Eve is an extremely good one. I think its current implementation is about the worst it could possibly be though.

Talthrus
EdgeGamers
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:06:00 - [446]
 

Edited by: Talthrus on 22/06/2011 02:06:54
Originally by: Soryn Kael
The monocle shows up on your portrait right?


If so.. it's the absolute perfect item to rub it in people's faces that you have more isk than they do..


http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1533269

That's what a monocle does to your portrait.

Edit: added link.

Aquana Abyss
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:07:00 - [447]
 

Originally by: Mai Banck
Originally by: Aquana Abyss
I support these prices....in fact make them higher!

Best way to kill your daft NeX idea dead is to keep the prices ludicrous. Do it!!!

P.S. - LOL @ People crying about the prices - so you actually in fact do want to play dress up? Fail.




So you cannot grasp many have an issue with the priciple behind it ?


Lol - the principle of CCP exploiting idiots? No, I think that is just fine - its actually quite fitting.

Vanity items like clothes give no game advantage so who cares quite frankly? What lofty principle are you trying to defend?

PS - go read the 'Ships for $$', you'll find me there campaigning against stuff they were going to do with the NeX that you probably don't even know about. Things that you know, affect the whole game, not just those wanting to play dress-up or cry about the principle *after* the NeX has arrived.

Tangiers LeGume
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:08:00 - [448]
 

Originally by: Toanfoal
Originally by: davet517
I'm not getting the QQ here. Obviously, they mean for these things to be exclusive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but every year we have a tourney that generates cruisers and frigs that people buy for 20B and that they will never, ever fly.

So, not everyone gets to wear the monacle. It's a status symbol, like having an Adrestia in your hanger. If every other portrait you saw had one, nbd, but at these prices it'll be unusual. If that's the way CCP wants to play it V0V.


You're exactly right.

In fact my wife and I JUST got done talking (during this morning's patch wait of all things) about how (RL) rich people spend ridiculous amounts of money on clothing - she knows a seamstress who does work for some millionaire... the guy literally comes to town roughly once every 2 months and pays her hundreds of dollars to hem about 30 pairs of slacks. First off, they're probably very expensive pants... but the fact that he goes through 30 every couple of months... /boggle

There's money in catering to the uber wealthy in real life, why not in the virtual one, too.


I'm betting he doesn't spend enough to buy an air superiority fighter or an attack submarine, though! Laughing

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:09:00 - [449]
 

Edited by: Tobiaz on 22/06/2011 02:09:19
Originally by: Toanfoal
Originally by: davet517
I'm not getting the QQ here. Obviously, they mean for these things to be exclusive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but every year we have a tourney that generates cruisers and frigs that people buy for 20B and that they will never, ever fly.

So, not everyone gets to wear the monacle. It's a status symbol, like having an Adrestia in your hanger. If every other portrait you saw had one, nbd, but at these prices it'll be unusual. If that's the way CCP wants to play it V0V.


You're exactly right.

In fact my wife and I JUST got done talking (during this morning's patch wait of all things) about how (RL) rich people spend ridiculous amounts of money on clothing - she knows a seamstress who does work for some millionaire... the guy literally comes to town roughly once every 2 months and pays her hundreds of dollars to hem about 30 pairs of slacks. First off, they're probably very expensive pants... but the fact that he goes through 30 every couple of months... /boggle

There's money in catering to the uber wealthy in real life, why not in the virtual one, too.


The biggest problem is that this new direction signals a very different CCP. And looking at the extreme lack of real features of Incarna and where it DID put the focus on, the future for EVE looks bleak. That's why people are so upset.

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:11:00 - [450]
 

Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/06/2011 02:11:51
MASSIVELY article over monocle debacle

Let the mockery of CCP begin!

And THANK YOU Massively for covering this nonsense!


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