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Topic |
J Kunjeh
Gallente |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:41:00 - [ 391]
I've already posted my thoughts on the price, but I have to say that the stuff available so far is rather good looking...you can tell it was designed by a pro, not game developer trying to be a fashion designer. So definitely a big kudos to CCP for hiring great designers and not skimping on that part. |
Borameir
Gallente
Aliastra |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:41:00 - [ 392]
 Originally by: Chewiest Bong
Originally by: Bklyn 1
Methinks CCP missed the 'micro' part in the word microtransaction
They probably confused the suffix, 'micro' with 'macro.
I'd say cosmic, it is a space game after all, everything's bigger! Except your wallet. |
diaufop |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:42:00 - [ 393]
Edited by: diaufop on 22/06/2011 01:43:02
Edited by: diaufop on 22/06/2011 01:42:18
CCP: Please get in touch with Turbine - they launched a version of DDO with a microtransactions (albeit with a hybrid subscription and f2p model) and more than quadrupled their income overnight. They then repeated it with LoTRO.
They might be able to advise you how to set sensible prices that people will pay over and over again on multiple accounts.
Then again, you may be beyond all reason. It certainly seems that way right now. |
Thagomizer |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:42:00 - [ 394]
Edited by: Thagomizer on 22/06/2011 01:44:27I am hoping that they intend to drop these prices down to a more reasonable level, because currently they are just insane. I remember an old boss used to say that the best way to tell people bad news was tell them something worse, then pull back and mention that reality isn't quite that bad. I can't imagine that is what they are trying to do here, because it just comes off as greedy and leaves a bad taste in my (and apparently many other people's) mouth. Quote:
[ 2011.06.21 23:54:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > That is also the standard technique in the industry. In our case, it was exceptionally necessary due to the huge size of PLEX.
This stated goal is completely at odds with the current prices - they're basically charging whole PLEX prices for the current items. If these prices stay constant, they could have just offered three pairs of boots for a single PLEX and avoided the complication of splitting the PLEX up in the first place. The fact that they made Aurum so small makes me hope that they are planning to offer items in the 50-100 Aurum range, because because otherwise this whole endeavor seems hopelessly mismanaged. If CCP is planning to offer real microtransaction items, then I think they totally dropped the ball only having a handful of insanely overpriced items to start with. In my opinion, it would have been worth a delay if they could have provided twice as many items with the other half being squarely in the <1000 Aurum range (preferably < 350 Aurum). |
Morgan Polaris |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:43:00 - [ 395]
Originally by: Toanfoal
Blame WoW for the prices.
They've been selling virtual teddy bears and ponies for 10-30 bucks now for months (a year even??).
CCP would be insane to not charge an arm and a leg for permanent cosmetic gear, because the market has shown that there are people out there who are willing to pay it.
The market has also shown that compared to 2 people buying it for $80, there might be about a thousand buying it for $2. The very definition of micro transactions, really. And even WOW isn't this poorly priced. |
Gerdan BloodELF
Minmatar
D00M.
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:43:00 - [ 396]
I have 20 billion isk liquid. Even i wouldn't spend money on this. |
Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:43:00 - [ 397]
Well there is an upside to the prices ... CCP will save money ... how? CCP stated that more vanity items would be created if they are popular. At the current prices they will be able to let go any designers/programmers involved with these items, so thereby saving money.
When did the beancounters take over the asylum? CCP must have missed what happened to Allods Online with their overpriced MT shop, that game will never recover. |
Tangiers LeGume |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:43:00 - [ 398]
Originally by: J Kunjeh
I've already posted my thoughts on the price, but I have to say that the stuff available so far is rather good looking...you can tell it was designed by a pro, not game developer trying to be a fashion designer. So definitely a big kudos to CCP for hiring great designers and not skimping on that part.
I'll give them that. |
Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
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Posted - 2011.06.22 01:44:00 - [ 399]
Originally by: Toros Revoke
I'm sorry but how is a pair of trousers competing in price with a capital ship, what the **** are they made of?
I was about to buy this Nyx, then I saw this awesome shirt and I just HAD to have it. |
Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:45:00 - [ 400]
Yay @ Mega Transactions! |
Josh Bolder |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:45:00 - [ 401]
I would just like to point out that
1. I am reasonably well off
2. am I hard core player, when i RPG I buy all the books so i got the collection.
3. so I love collecting
4. and I am a terrible impulse buyer
But this is not for hobbyists or collectors or rpg gamers. This is purely a rip off and only the truly dumb will buy stuff that no one can see, or really give a hoot about. |
Bifordus Maximus
Gallente |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:47:00 - [ 402]
I wouldn't worry about all this since it is optional. After a month when they realize that zero plex has been spent on aurum, they will change it...  But seriously this better be a conveinent "mistake." Although I am curious at how many people will actually buy this stuff. |
Starr Tookus
Lai Dai Infinity Systems |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:47:00 - [ 403]
Originally by: Thagomizer
Edited by: Thagomizer on 22/06/2011 01:44:27
I remember an old boss used to say that the best way to tell people bad news was tell them something worse, then pull back and mention that reality isn't quite that bad.
In the navy, they gave us a lobster dinner first. WHERE'S MY LOBSTER, CCP!!!!!! |
Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:47:00 - [ 404]
Originally by: Toanfoal
Blame WoW for the prices.
They've been selling virtual teddy bears and ponies for 10-30 bucks now for months (a year even??).
CCP would be insane to not charge an arm and a leg for permanent cosmetic gear, because the market has shown that there are people out there who are willing to pay it.
Okay, but in wow you have a pretty pony made of stars or a glowing lion to show for it. In EVE you get.... what? Shiny pants? This is one of the few areas where other MMO's have EVE's butt kicked. WoW and STO both do micro-transactions a hundred times better than EVE. |
RougeOperator |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:48:00 - [ 405]
Originally by: Maxpie
Originally by: Toros Revoke
I'm sorry but how is a pair of trousers competing in price with a capital ship, what the **** are they made of?
I was about to buy this Nyx, then I saw this awesome shirt and I just HAD to have it.
This quote made me giggle. I want to laugh I really do. When I heard about the changes coming I had a plex handy and thought to myself when the patch hits Ill buy a bunch of shirts and such. Boy did you put one over one me CCP. My one plex will get me like one sock, used. |
Blood Fart |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:48:00 - [ 406]
Awesome pricing CCP. Grab all the money these dummies that want to play space barbies have....then use it to figure out a way to give me ship shinning back. thanks |
Dian Rasd
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 01:49:00 - [ 407]
lol what? |
Jacoba Stalker |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:49:00 - [ 408]
I have to add to the "Amen" crowd here. Have ya'll been smoking crack???
If this is how you intend to treat your customers, then I can take what little money I spend here now and go somewhere else. That's beyond assinine, that's criminally stupid. |
Mr Dilkington |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:50:00 - [ 409]
This whole thing is terrible, the clothing items dont even look good. |
Esna Pitoojee
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:51:00 - [ 410]
CCP...
I... honestly do not understand your choice to make vanity items indestructible and vastly overpriced. I really don't. I mean, I've had some issues with your decisions in the past, some of which I've voiced my concerns about, but this is probably the first time a major portion of an expansion has been dedicated to something which I cannot remotely conceive was supposed to work.
Did you expect the constant introduction of new items to offset the inevitable (but distant) price crash as the indestructible clothes started being omnipresent?
Were you hoping to drain some of the massive wealth from nullsec entities by placing the prices so high, effectively meaning they would be the only ones with enough cash to buy large volumes of clothing?
I really don't know. |
Mirage Excelsior
Minmatar |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:51:00 - [ 411]
Lets all welcome CCP to the 21st Century style of game development.
The milking of your older, loyal fanbase, to fund your new projects.
Why not? Others have been doing it for years, Eve 2, Eve 3, Eve 2014, Eve 2015, Eve 2015 - SubtitleHere incoming.
It seems as though Eve, once made by gamers for love and a wage - for gamers, is slowly turning to by suits - for suckers and profit. |
Chidori kun
Minmatar
Starship Operating BastardZ
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Posted - 2011.06.22 01:51:00 - [ 412]
Edited by: Chidori kun on 22/06/2011 01:54:55
I was willing to buy plex either with ISK or RL money for the shop and get some extra clothing but not at this insane pricing....
Sorry this is really over the top..
lol even if some is stupid enough to buy that monocle and places it on the market it will sell for about 1.2 billion ISK!!! and if they greedy even more....
Chid |
Morgan Polaris |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:51:00 - [ 413]
Originally by: Blood Fart
Awesome pricing CCP. Grab all the money these dummies that want to play space barbies have....then use it to figure out a way to give me ship shinning back. thanks
That's like two morons, while a few thousand of us would be glad to fork $1 for some decent gear. But yeah, ship spinning is priceless. |
Lenore Leelu |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:52:00 - [ 414]
Doesn't CCP employ an economist?
Is he on holiday? |
C2 H5 OH |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:52:00 - [ 415]
Umm yeah... Okay.. unlike many folks I like micro-transactions... Dig them in fact. I've spent RL money on things in DDO.. I thought it was worth the cash.. $5 here, $10 there.. no biggie..
Holy crap, you have not the first freaking clue how to price your items.
Also, you don't understand your customer base.. Guess what.. THERE ARE NO STATIONS IN 0.0.
The guys who live in 0.0, the ones who have 1.6 billion to blow on a frivolous items like a monocle.. They aren't going to be walking in stations showing off their ultra-expensive items..
The people who will be showing off these things are Empire carebears.. poor people. Do you understand nothing about marketing?
Please, hire someone from Turbine who has a sane idea as to how micro-transactions work...
The word is BULK, CCP... |
Zom Bo |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:53:00 - [ 416]
PLEX=ISK Everyone loves this
PLEX=ARUM Everyone hates this
Arum = ISK Everyone doesn't get this yet!
Your isk doesn't magically disappear, it just turns into another item which can be sold if you want your isk back.
Where's the problem? |
heheheh
Phoenix Club
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Posted - 2011.06.22 01:53:00 - [ 417]
Originally by: Gerdan BloodELF
I have 20 billion isk liquid. Even i wouldn't spend money on this.
I have ten times that much and i would not either. |
Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:53:00 - [ 418]
Edited by: Portmanteau on 22/06/2011 01:53:35
I should probably put together some well worded complaint as most others have but this really goes so far beyong that I'm just going to say... CCP you are a bunch of utter thieving scumbag ****ers hahahahahaha |
Gothikia
Regeneration |
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:53:00 - [ 419]
Originally by: Lenore Leelu
Doesn't CCP employ an economist?
Is he on holiday?
Remember, it is an Icelandic economist... |
Toros Revoke
Revoke Foundation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 01:53:00 - [ 420]
Edited by: Toros Revoke on 22/06/2011 01:53:58
You really can't help but laugh at this madness; one isk is meant to be more than a single person can earn in several lifetimes, in which case I've got the income of entire worlds in my wallet, Yet I can't afford new shoes... |
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