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Anna Maziarczyk
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:22:00 - [361]
 

Edited by: Anna Maziarczyk on 22/06/2011 01:22:43
Didnt that one Russian mmorpg Allods or somethign like that, do the same thing?

They were selling backpacks for like 50 bucks, swords for $1500....

The game died right after their cash shop fiasco......

Morrigun Rakari
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:24:00 - [362]
 

Originally by: CCP Zinfandel


[ 2011.06.22 00:04:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Hello Kyle - we have been talking about the prices regularly in here. There are expensive items in the shop. Noble Appliances Corporation opened these shops particularly to target the wealthy capsuleer community.



Sure, *Capsuleers* might be rich, but *Players* aren't.

Can someone tell this guy that microtransactions only really work as impulse buys, in much the same way big supermarkets put chocolate next to the checkouts, please? People think "Hell, it's only 60p/1/etc, I'll treat myself!". They'd sell precisely none if they priced them at 35/40.

Janus Talmash
Talmash Imports and Exports Group
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:24:00 - [363]
 

Whoever is responsible for the pricing is a ****!ng [email protected] and should be fired immediately, any management type that agreed to this idiocy should be fired as well.

Zomcheck
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:24:00 - [364]
 

^^^Jelly
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5773/madjelly.png

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:24:00 - [365]
 

Originally by: Eclorc
I feel bloody sorry for the real devs that actually DO care about Eve, the game, the life, and the technical beauty of her.


A lot of those guys have left CCP a few years back.

I really do feel sorry for them.

I feel sorry for the game designer who did such an awesome job of FactionWar only to have it left critically bugged for YEARS.

Joshua Hailey
Gallente
Colonial Battle Fleet
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:25:00 - [366]
 

this is the first time i think i could ever say this but atleast star trek online c store knows how to price stuff, and eve cant figure it out?

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:25:00 - [367]
 

Wow They are trying to get rich fastLaughing Without me ccp...without me.

Rykuss
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:25:00 - [368]
 

Originally by: stoicfaux
Plan B.
1. Drive to Toys R Us (the one that's 20 minutes away) in my SUV.
2. Buy a barbie doll, err... buy an action figure and some doll action figure clothing and maybe some paint.
3. Dress and/or paint my doll action figure.
4. Hold my action f err... doll, no err... action figure in front of my monitor and pretend to walk around in my CQ.


P.S. It's wise to close the door so your spouse doesn't see what you're doing when you're docked.




Hope you haven't done anything to **** off said spouse recently. Camera phones are everywhere and there's youtube to consider. Twisted Evil

Kurj Valdoria
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:26:00 - [369]
 

since the patch borked my eve and I have no chance of playing right now does the store have ANYTHING for ships? you know the thing most people in eve would actually give a crap about?

Zed Jackelope
Original Sin.
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:26:00 - [370]
 

Originally by: Anna Maziarczyk
Edited by: Anna Maziarczyk on 22/06/2011 01:22:43
Didnt that one Russian mmorpg Allods or somethign like that, do the same thing?

They were selling backpacks for like 50 bucks, swords for $1500....

The game died right after their cash shop fiasco......


yup, and i was derping it up in beta with goonies... the game really had something going for it, and then /facepalm


I'm wondering if the same kuntmunkeez that worked on allods got hired by ccp

Chewiest Bong
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:27:00 - [371]
 

Originally by: Grimnir


Would you mind pointing me to the bit where it says that you need these features to *play* the game ?


Um, they introduce new game functionality and basically expect people to use the CQ and / or look at a wallpaper picture of a door as oppossed to the old hangar. They're planning on adding additional vanity items as well as allowing one to walk through the station and interact with other players in the future updates.

The criticism and this particular topic is fair game.

Gothikia
Regeneration
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:27:00 - [372]
 

Terrible game design. Terrible management at CCP and a massive F U C K U P on the part of the community manager and related parties for not consulting with the CSM on this one.

CCP, you now in my book, offically suck. I want my old EVE back :bittervet:

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:27:00 - [373]
 

Originally by: Joshua Hailey
this is the first time i think i could ever say this but atleast star trek online c store knows how to price stuff, and eve cant figure it out?


They don't even understand their in game economy, the real one is simply too much to handle. Apparently a decimal point is a difficult tool to wield.

Apple iPwn
Superscript
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:27:00 - [374]
 

brb buying cool outfits to show off... oh wait
what's the point in vanity if i cant show it off to OTHER people?

on another note, it's cool to charge 80 bucks for some pixels to make yourself pretty, but at least include some lower-end versions too?

Nikki West
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:28:00 - [375]
 

Originally by: Seleene
[ 2011.06.21 23:54:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > That is also the standard technique in the industry. In our case, it was exceptionally necessary due to the huge size of PLEX.

[ 2011.06.21 23:55:03 ] CCP Zinfandel > Incub: 12000 Aurum. The comma is an Americanism.

[ 2011.06.21 23:57:03 ] CCP Zinfandel > The store only has a few items in it so far. But more will be added. We hope to add a few pieces each week. We started with items which can be purchased and used without needing a special interface.

[ 2011.06.21 23:57:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > Painting a ship requires a little more work before we will be able to offer it. But it is planned.

[ 2011.06.21 23:57:26 ] Sofia Roseburn > Zinfandel, these prices are actually correct?

[ 2011.06.21 23:58:35 ] CCP Zinfandel > Sofia Roseburn - there will be a number of items at different prices over time. Also, these items will be offered on special from time to time. Some of the items are expensive.

[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.

[ 2011.06.22 00:04:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Hello Kyle - we have been talking about the prices regularly in here. There are expensive items in the shop. Noble Appliances Corporation opened these shops particularly to target the wealthy capsuleer community.

[ 2011.06.22 00:04:45 ] CCP Zinfandel > The selection of items in the store will change from time to time as the capsuleers purchase things and new items arrive (hopefully a few each week.)

[ 2011.06.22 00:05:22 ] CCP Zinfandel > Prices will vary between items and occasionally things will go on sale. Don't forget that the market also has a number of items for sale already and those prices should stabilize over time as well.

[ 2011.06.22 00:16:42 ] CCP Zinfandel > Chewiest - decorating will come eventually, hopefully later this year.

[ 2011.06.22 00:19:32 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are slowly receiving more items to sell in the store and we are saving things to introduce new items each week.

[ 2011.06.22 00:23:09 ] CCP Zinfandel > Elina Tan - we are introducing new clothing fashions in sets with themes. This set is themed "Military" and will continue for months. We also have fashion designers creating a line for "Corporate" and one for "Cyberpunk."

[ 2011.06.22 00:23:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Those will come later.

[ 2011.06.22 00:23:30 ] CCP Zinfandel > And they are being designed by RL fashion designers.

[ 2011.06.22 00:24:47 ] CCP Zinfandel > One of the fashion designers is New York based. Another is Reykjavik based.

[ 2011.06.22 00:27:07 ] CCP Zinfandel > JordanTwoDelta - you will see the ISK market prices stablize over time. Initially, hype will make people spend more than they should. I counsel a little patience. ;-)

[ 2011.06.22 00:29:26 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are adding a little more each week (probably on Tuesdays.)


Dear CCP. Please transfer some of your resources to actually further develop EVE Online and fix all the existing issues. I don't play EVE to have a fashion show in my small room, play dress up and decorate my hangar. What happened to that CCP priority list I saw during your fanfest presentation?

Skogen Gump
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:28:00 - [376]
 

Originally by: Kurj Valdoria
since the patch borked my eve and I have no chance of playing right now does the store have ANYTHING for ships? you know the thing most people in eve would actually give a crap about?


Presently, no.

Bklyn 1
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:32:00 - [377]
 

Methinks CCP missed the 'micro' part in the word microtransaction

Chewiest Bong
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:33:00 - [378]
 

Originally by: Bklyn 1
Methinks CCP missed the 'micro' part in the word microtransaction


They probably confused the suffix, 'micro' with 'macro.

Euphonus
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:33:00 - [379]
 

Originally by: Seleene
[ 2011.06.21 23:54:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > That is also the standard technique in the industry. In our case, it was exceptionally necessary due to the huge size of PLEX.

[ 2011.06.21 23:55:03 ] CCP Zinfandel > Incub: 12000 Aurum. The comma is an Americanism.

[ 2011.06.21 23:57:03 ] CCP Zinfandel > The store only has a few items in it so far. But more will be added. We hope to add a few pieces each week. We started with items which can be purchased and used without needing a special interface.

[ 2011.06.21 23:57:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > Painting a ship requires a little more work before we will be able to offer it. But it is planned.

[ 2011.06.21 23:57:26 ] Sofia Roseburn > Zinfandel, these prices are actually correct?

[ 2011.06.21 23:58:35 ] CCP Zinfandel > Sofia Roseburn - there will be a number of items at different prices over time. Also, these items will be offered on special from time to time. Some of the items are expensive.

[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.

[ 2011.06.22 00:04:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Hello Kyle - we have been talking about the prices regularly in here. There are expensive items in the shop. Noble Appliances Corporation opened these shops particularly to target the wealthy capsuleer community.

[ 2011.06.22 00:04:45 ] CCP Zinfandel > The selection of items in the store will change from time to time as the capsuleers purchase things and new items arrive (hopefully a few each week.)

[ 2011.06.22 00:05:22 ] CCP Zinfandel > Prices will vary between items and occasionally things will go on sale. Don't forget that the market also has a number of items for sale already and those prices should stabilize over time as well.

[ 2011.06.22 00:16:42 ] CCP Zinfandel > Chewiest - decorating will come eventually, hopefully later this year.

[ 2011.06.22 00:19:32 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are slowly receiving more items to sell in the store and we are saving things to introduce new items each week.

[ 2011.06.22 00:23:09 ] CCP Zinfandel > Elina Tan - we are introducing new clothing fashions in sets with themes. This set is themed "Military" and will continue for months. We also have fashion designers creating a line for "Corporate" and one for "Cyberpunk."

[ 2011.06.22 00:23:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Those will come later.

[ 2011.06.22 00:23:30 ] CCP Zinfandel > And they are being designed by RL fashion designers.

[ 2011.06.22 00:24:47 ] CCP Zinfandel > One of the fashion designers is New York based. Another is Reykjavik based.

[ 2011.06.22 00:27:07 ] CCP Zinfandel > JordanTwoDelta - you will see the ISK market prices stablize over time. Initially, hype will make people spend more than they should. I counsel a little patience. ;-)

[ 2011.06.22 00:29:26 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are adding a little more each week (probably on Tuesdays.)


Holy ****, he is a marketing director (and not a GM?)? I never thought you could find such an ignorant, asinine person to hire. He needs to be fired for this bull****- or are you telling me that as a whole entity CCP supports 80$ monocles and share's Zifandel's views?

Tangiers LeGume
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:34:00 - [380]
 


"CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. "It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face."

So, the fully grown clone body with the necessary implants necessary to jack-in to a pod, and a mid-range suite of up to 10 ability and attribute implants integrated into the central nervous system is less expensive than a vanity implant?

Don't use in-game justifications to excuse whacky vanity item prices. Boots the price of a starship?

And I get the hobby and not a mere game thing, I really do. But I like to think that those people would get the extra bit of engagement through real-life merchandise (EVE art book, t-shirts, mugs, etc.) or higher tier vanity items (custom paint jobs and logos, extensively modified cabin or shops, sex-change operations, etc.).






SiirLong
Caldari
Moo corporation
Reverberation Project
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:34:00 - [381]
 

Edited by: SiirLong on 22/06/2011 01:35:41
Dear CCP,

Several Issues...

A. Do you know your target audience that you are marketing to? (Mostly male) Last time I checked most dudes I know don't give a damn about dressing up their COD character, why would they do it in EVE?

B. How many times do you plan on releasing a glitchy client... I hate to be harsh, but just hire a few game testers... your headaches would be over...don't we have a test server for this! Test it for a freaking month, then release it!

C. Request option for players to decide high end graphic interface (CQ) or standard for low end graphics users (Spinny ship in station thingy).

That is all, I hope you listen to your customer's because THEY(WE) pay YOUR salary by spending OUR discretionary funds on this game.

Toros Revoke
Revoke Foundation
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:34:00 - [382]
 

I'm sorry but how is a pair of trousers competing in price with a capital ship, what the **** are they made of?Shocked

Dimitri Fukoyama
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:34:00 - [383]
 

Edited by: Dimitri Fukoyama on 22/06/2011 01:36:05
Im not even looking forward to WoD anymore... thats how bad this turn of event feels to me...

I dont care about dust coming to the PC either... **** this **** heh... summer sun here i come lol


Josh Bolder
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:35:00 - [384]
 

[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.

DUDE IT IS NOT A REAL IMPLANT. IT IS NOT REAL LIFE.

[ 2011.06.22 00:04:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Hello Kyle - we have been talking about the prices regularly in here. There are expensive items in the shop. Noble Appliances Corporation opened these shops particularly to target the wealthy capsuleer community.

NOT A REAL COMPANY IT IS YOU. NOT REAL LIFE

[ 2011.06.22 00:05:22 ] CCP Zinfandel > Prices will vary between items and occasionally things will go on sale. Don't forget that the market also has a number of items for sale already and those prices should stabilize over time as well.

ON SALE... WHY BECAUSE THE SUMMER SEASON IS OVER???



Toanfoal
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:36:00 - [385]
 

Blame WoW for the prices.

They've been selling virtual teddy bears and ponies for 10-30 bucks now for months (a year even??).


CCP would be insane to not charge an arm and a leg for permanent cosmetic gear, because the market has shown that there are people out there who are willing to pay it.

Aquana Abyss
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:37:00 - [386]
 

I support these prices....in fact make them higher!

Best way to kill your daft NeX idea dead is to keep the prices ludicrous. Do it!!!

P.S. - LOL @ People crying about the prices - so you actually in fact do want to play dress up? Fail.

Josh Bolder
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:38:00 - [387]
 

Originally by: SiirLong
Edited by: SiirLong on 22/06/2011 01:35:41
Dear CCP,

Several Issues...

A. Do you know your target audience that you are marketing to? (Mostly male) Last time I checked most dudes I know don't give a damn about dressing up their COD character, why would they do it in EVE?

B. How many times do you plan on releasing a glitchy client... I hate to be harsh, but just hire a few game testers... your headaches would be over...don't we have a test server for this! Test it for a freaking month, then release it!

C. Request option for players to decide high end graphic interface (CQ) or standard for low end graphics users (Spinny ship in station thingy).

That is all, I hope you listen to your customer's because THEY(WE) pay YOUR salary by spending OUR discretionary funds on this game.


Dude there is an option to turn of CQ

Mai Banck
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:39:00 - [388]
 

Originally by: Aquana Abyss
I support these prices....in fact make them higher!

Best way to kill your daft NeX idea dead is to keep the prices ludicrous. Do it!!!

P.S. - LOL @ People crying about the prices - so you actually in fact do want to play dress up? Fail.




So you cannot grasp many have an issue with the priciple behind it ?

Kurj Valdoria
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:40:00 - [389]
 

Originally by: Toanfoal
Blame WoW for the prices.

They've been selling virtual teddy bears and ponies for 10-30 bucks now for months (a year even??).


CCP would be insane to not charge an arm and a leg for permanent cosmetic gear, because the market has shown that there are people out there who are willing to pay it.



oh, since eve is 'way more elite' then ccp items should cost 3x as much as wow items, makes sense to me! I guess anyone who doesn't like it is either poor or stupid.

Dimitri Fukoyama
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:40:00 - [390]
 

Originally by: Aquana Abyss
I support these prices....in fact make them higher!

Best way to kill your daft NeX idea dead is to keep the prices ludicrous. Do it!!!

P.S. - LOL @ People crying about the prices - so you actually in fact do want to play dress up? Fail.


Its the principle, if CCP gets enough idiots that start paying for this, you can bet your ass that everything will follow through. The fact that theyre even trying to sell a 45$ monocle should start ringing major alarm bells.


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