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Elrica bloodbane
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:42:00 - [541]
 

Ships and hanger are out of scale. A battleship should be bigger than a canal barge.Evil or Very Mad
Maller was fine looking ship, now looks like something 40k orks cobbled together out of scrap.Crying or Very sad
When I board ship from orca bay, the ship I was in would go in bay, now it floats in space.ugh
Mining laser were awesome, now there just meh. Sad
Noble exchange is a joke, April 1st was 2 months ago.
WE NEED LESS CQ(captains quarters) AND MORE QC quality control.
And for gawds sake put some money in the meter and turn the bloody lights on

Trinity Lux
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:46:00 - [542]
 

Originally by: Toscaria
I won't be loading station environments until you give us the old hangar back. I will enter the CQ when I choose to, thank you very ****ing much.


^^ THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.. WHY MAKE PEOPLE MAD CCP? Where the spinning hanger that we used to pass so much time in?

Ship proportions are terrible for the smaller ships. Whats the point..

The turrets are awesome though.

Martin Lloydd
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:49:00 - [543]
 

Quite honestly, I'm impressed.

Sure there isn't a large amount to this patch, but I like what little is there. I've been playing EVE almost since the beginning... the turrets really needed an upgrade and - heck - maybe the changes to the turrets is going to pave the way for SHIPS changing into "combat configuration"... like when X-Wings go into combat mode... they were going to do that with ships at one point...

Anyways, it may be devoid of too many features right now, but it paves the way. Hope to see more extensions to the WiS stuff soon, otherwise it really will feel pointless. I think I can be satisfied with the "Oh shiny!!" aspect for a little while. If they implement things like Corporation common areas and ****, I can see that having some potential... otherwise... for shame...

Also, neat touch seeing the pot all opened up and awaiting the pilot. I like.

CPU utilization of the client has VASTLY improved.

The clothes, though... really? What are you guys smoking? It must be something from my stash... shame on you for stealing!!!

Miranda Elantra
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:50:00 - [544]
 

So, 6 months of development time and what did we get with Incarna - let's see:

  1. Captain's Quarters - A tech demo for the new WoD MMO. The animations are lackluster, there are strange graphical bugs (what's with the shadows on my character's face?), the controls are abysmal, and it takes a non-trivial amount of time to load. It adds no functionality that isn't easier to do using the old menus. Only minmatar version is available (heh, like we'll ever see the other races)
  2. Noble Store - $60 monocles. 'nuff said.
  3. Jump Bridge Nerf - Oh good, another kick in the balls for the average 0.0 player. With risk/reward already so out of whack with safe empire alternatives, making life more miserable for the guy trying to earn enough to pay for his PVP ships is certainly the best way to make 0.0 more dynamic. This change wouldn't have been terrible as part of an overhaul of 0.0, but in isolation it's just adding insult to injury after the sanctum nerf.
  4. New turrets - I'm willing to accept that the dudes who do the graphics are a different design team than the ones implementing game design changes. Cosmetic changes are nice, I guess.
  5. Cormorant lights blink - Woo!
  6. New maller - I guess it looks kinda nice - can't say I've ever flown one before.


6 months of development time for all of this. Not a single fix to make Gallente suck less (in fact, drone boats took a decent sized nerf in PVE!). Not a single adjustment to supercapitals. Not a single change to make holding space worthwhile. Not a single fix for the technetium bottleneck.

What the hell were you guys thinking?

Raabe
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:51:00 - [545]
 

Edited by: Raabe on 22/06/2011 15:20:20
Edited by: Raabe on 22/06/2011 15:07:34
feedback about "insana 1.0" - failed!

the game runs jerky. lags every time (in missions, while mining, or trading,
and it has extrem long loading times when docking at a station,
or starting the hole game.

captians housing looks great - BUT it takes to much time to load and it is
absolutly useless! who needs that? and not every gamer has a high-end-pc that
can handle this cpu/gpu overload!

the new turret effects are bugged and displaced. for example the cyclone bc,
or armageddon bs. and this new gun thingis costs cpu/gpu/server work too?!

CCP, PLEASE MAKE A OPTION TO SWITCH BACK TO THE OLD STATION ENVIROMENT,
AND/OR TO THE OLD TURRET FX!!! big thx.

some new bugs/features:
- light warrior t2 drones now sounds like the 425mm ac.
- to be logged into the game and logging in the eve-side or forum,at the same time
is no more possible

i forgott something: this noble garbage store...
is eve really dropping down like an free-to-play-asia-grinder-mmorpg, that it needs
an premium store, where kids can buy good looking scrap metal, to make money?!?
i dont think so.

greetings,
(still want a roll-back to rmr :)

...playing battlestar galactica and black prophecy till ccp fix incarna...

pat bolo
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:53:00 - [546]
 

please remove the following :

1 asthray on coffee table
1 ashtray near my bed
3 ashtrays on the right of the shelf

i don't need this to smoke STOP apology of drug and put some exotic dancers instead because sex apology is better for our health.

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:56:00 - [547]
 

time to start all over.

want to sub original eve online space ship related game

the one without all this ccp created rmt vanity bloatware crap
the one where internet spaceships was serious business
the one where bug fixing not bug creation was priority over unnecessary useless features.

Makko Gray
Pheno-Tech Industries
Crimson Wings.
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:58:00 - [548]
 


  • Turrets look nice on the ships, sometimes look quite small on bigger ships though.

  • The turret icon next to the target tile lacks defination and looks blob like.

  • The CQ are quite hard on my graphics card even on the lowest settings, to put into perspective I use about 50% GPU when in space with all settings on high bar anti-aliasing and shadow quality which are disabled. In CQ even on the lowest settings my GPU usgae is sitting above 90%. I'm using an NVIDIA GeForce GTS 240 and have the game in windowed mode at a resolution of 2048x1090 on a dual monitor set-up. I had hoped performance might be comparable with that of in space.

  • Walking around in the CQ is a little slow, a run function would be nice. Also I personally would find it nice to start sat on the chair since the only thing that really interests me at the moment is the screens and it's slow to walk to them when first docking.

  • Even on the highest setting the lighting on my avatars face looks a little odd, getting harsh edges around lips and eyelids. Was looking at his face when sat down.

  • New Maller looks nice, to be honest quite liked the smooth curves of the old one but new one looks smart too, looks meaner Smile. Don't know whether I need to clear my cache but I currently get the icon showing up as the old Maller design.

  • Was left shocked at the prices in the Noble Exchange, I expect the transactions to be a little more micro rather than more expensive than their real world counterparts. I think the fact PLEX were being divided into 3,500 AURUM left me and perhaps other feeling that those divisions were indicative of the granularity required for the small payment items would go for. With the current cost you may as well have just broke up PLEX into 100 AURUM and reduced prices. I think smaller price points would have made the items accessible to a greater number of people and probably made you more money rather than just catering for a wealthy few, kinda like Ferrari vs Ford where Ferrari may be a more exclusive produce but Ford makes more money.

  • New agent finder is a great addition, would be nice if it would react to being resized by adding more rows/columns so more agents were visible at once where there was room to display them.


Floydd Heywood
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:59:00 - [549]
 

I laugh at everyone who rages because they can't spin around their ship anymore. That's ridiculously irrelevant and only reveals the real whiner who will rage about ANY change. If you're that bored, just play with your balls. Hint: You can still rotate around your ships in space.

That being said, Incarna won't make sense to me until I can DO stuff in 3D, like missions and PvP. And when that happens, it will have nothing to do with EVE as we know it, it will be like a separate game added to the one that exists now. Which doesn't have to be a bad thing. Anyways, that day is probably still very far away.

john roe
BearingPoint
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:59:00 - [550]
 

Edited by: john roe on 22/06/2011 15:13:16
+ was semi-impressed by the size of my CNR in hangar. pretty big SoB

- EVERYTHING ELSE.

seriously. everything.
you guys are nuts.


ps.

i love JEWS. :]
i really do. thanks to them and monetary system we dont have 15B+ ppl on this planet
but only 7B atm. so thanks again.
i LOVE JEWS!


will this account get banned as well on forums?


ps2

oh, btw. eve client, when set at min. takes 400MB+ mem at least (didnt eve undock yet :] ) so i will reduce number of accounts from 7 down to 2, maybe 3 but not sure yet (if any, hehe... told you, that this day will come.
everything has it's beginning, the golden age and THE END)



dgastuffz
Caldari
Hell's Revenge
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:09:00 - [551]
 

no contend for my playstyle ( FW in low sec )worst patch since i play eve i am disappointed

Yaleph naZaxhan
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:10:00 - [552]
 

Does anyone else find the CQ too dark to see in? Not too bad on my PC, but on my MAcBook it's too dark to use. I can barely make it out and that's with the brightness full up on the screen...Crying or Very sad

Mazza
The Reformed
Bondage Patrol
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:10:00 - [553]
 

After playing this game for nigh on 8 years I have to sign up with the vast majority that are hammering Incarna.

Downloaded patch logged in took 1 look logged off. Logged back on then turned station enviroments off in the menu. Wont be putting it back on again either. As nice and shiney as it is it's completly pointless. Spaceships is the game we want to play not walking around in a station.

Please do us all a favour and patch in the spinning ships when u have station enviroment turned off. You'll make quite a few people happy with that, because looking at that damm airlock door is dismal.

I've never been a fan of all the stuff CCP have done to the game in years gone by but you just suck it up and get on with it. I'm not throwing my teddy out the pram like others doing the same old "cancel your sub shouts" you wanna do that leave me your stuff before you go. I know there's more to come on this but its really going to have to be out of this world to get any interest from myself.

one of the channels i sit in has 7 players in it about 20 accounts nobody likes Incarna and everyone's turned if off. So far i'm finding more peeps with it off than on.

Your vanity prices are insane totally off the mark too. The word Greedy is getting banded about lots at mo.

This is a really terrible upgrade CCP hard work went into this but its just not what people want.

Again patch back in spinning ships please.


Tek Gold
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:13:00 - [554]
 

Overall I'm pretty impressed.

But there's one graphical thing I'm not happy about:
I hoped to be able to retract the turrets by pressing a button.
Seeing them retract only when I warp or put them offline is disappointing.

Yaleph naZaxhan
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:16:00 - [555]
 

Originally by: Mazza
Again patch back in spinning ships please.


Personally I couldn't give a flying f**k about spinning ships, but I would like to be able to turn up the lights...

Archaicc
Parabellum Diligentia
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:17:00 - [556]
 

Simply LOVE it. Can't wait for the next part to come out! :D

Arcadian Warror
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:18:00 - [557]
 

I AGREE WORST UPDATE/PATCH EVER. CQ IS ALOAD OF TOSH POINTLESS, MAYBE SORT OUT OTHER ISSUES INSTEAD OF ADDING NEW CONTENT. AND YES I AM CURRENTLY RUNNING AN OUTDATED GFX CARD APPARENTLY.

Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
Brainfarts
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:24:00 - [558]
 

I know a guy who is quitting eve over this who posted on this thread so id like to say that there are many casual players that don't do the forum thing that like much of this expansion. If the aurum store doesn't have anything that is like the old minmatar robot suit kryten was born with it doesn't concern me.. but I welcome the isk sink for that incusion free isk.

I am just relieved that I still have a game to playthat is not totally broken after this large patch. Congratz on that. Maybe I'm happy and he is not because my expectations were so low and his sohigh.

I wil post issues on issues thread and I am glad you didn't leave minig lazers turrets out of expansion...but I am wondering why I am mining rocks... with... other rocks.

Alvia Siv
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:28:00 - [559]
 

Originally by: Nabuch Sattva

turning off CQ should equal OLD HANGER!! (spinning ships).


DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHH CCP
I can not for the life of me understand why it is not so,
have been trying to find an explanation from devs the past few hours and there's nothing.
Please, someone, any ideas? It seems so stupid it completely beats me

Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:29:00 - [560]
 

You know, I really do like the idea of this, but there are some serious problems. A lot of this has already been said.

It needs to be optional, and there is no reason to get rid of spinning ships. I will use my CA but only when I want to.

You need to fix the crushing heat problems in the hardware. I have no idea why the game is causing so much CPU and GPU strain, but that's unacceptable. I damn near lost my graphics card last night.

Vanity items prices. Are you ******ed?

Do not lose sight of the fact that you're an internet spaceship game maker. I appreciate what you're trying to do with the whole eve universe and whatnot, but really your focus needs to be on spaceships.

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:31:00 - [561]
 

Originally by: Alvia Siv
Originally by: Nabuch Sattva

turning off CQ should equal OLD HANGER!! (spinning ships).

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHH CCP
I can not for the life of me understand why it is not so,
have been trying to find an explanation from devs the past few hours and there's nothing.
Please, someone, any ideas? It seems so stupid it completely beats me

Explanation is easy: immersion. Having two completely different ship hangars is breaking immersion immensely.

Shaman Feynman
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:32:00 - [562]
 

Here's some feedback for ya ccp. If this has been mentioned already, forgive me, I didn't feel like reading through 19 pages of comments :P I don't know about the rest of you, but the character creator and captain's quarters both have <5fps on high settings. It's manageable on low settings, but still, captain's quarters is the source of all my current troubles with EVE. So here is my suggestion:

The following two things would make my personal EVE experience infinitely better:

1. The option to use the old station setting (no captain's quarters). Or! Even better, have the option of zooming out of captains quarters to the old station setting (i.e.: ship hangar), where you can see yourself on the docking bay next to your ship! (Like the first reply in the thread) And make sure (!) there is a way for us to preset it so you can either dock in the captain's quarters or the ship hangar. Hope that makes sense.

2. The ability to control the graphics settings of the captain's quarters and space separately (i.e.: allow us to have low settings in captain's quarters and high settings out in space). My computer runs fine on high settings when I'm in space, all my problems are associated with the Captain's Quarters. In light of suggestion 1., you might even have Captain's Quarters settings and Space/Ship Hangar settings.

Bata Kameni
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:32:00 - [563]
 

I would like to know if the company is tracking how many players have the station walk turned OFF. (there is a number of people who don't know how to, still)

Sakura Zendragon
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:35:00 - [564]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Alvia Siv
Originally by: Nabuch Sattva

turning off CQ should equal OLD HANGER!! (spinning ships).

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHH CCP
I can not for the life of me understand why it is not so,
have been trying to find an explanation from devs the past few hours and there's nothing.
Please, someone, any ideas? It seems so stupid it completely beats me

Explanation is easy: immersion. Having two completely different ship hangars is breaking immersion immensely.


I beg to differ. I find it immersion-breaking to be forced out of pod on docking.
Old hangar + exit pod button -> CQ would fit better with the backstory, IMHO.

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:36:00 - [565]
 

Originally by: Illadelph Justice

You need to fix the crushing heat problems in the hardware. I have no idea why the game is causing so much CPU and GPU strain, but that's unacceptable. I damn near lost my graphics card last night.


Please, CCP, do NOT 'fix the crushing heat problems in the hardware.' People with crappy hardware should just lower their graphical settings. Period.

As for myself, my GTX 580 runs at a cool 42C, with everything maxed out at 1920x1200; and my i7 980X hovers around 10-15% CPU load. So all is well. I *love* the new shiny CQ look, and I'd don't like to see it nerfed again, pretty please.

john roe
BearingPoint
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:41:00 - [566]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Illadelph Justice

You need to fix the crushing heat problems in the hardware. I have no idea why the game is causing so much CPU and GPU strain, but that's unacceptable. I damn near lost my graphics card last night.


Please, CCP, do NOT 'fix the crushing heat problems in the hardware.' People with crappy hardware should just lower their graphical settings. Period.

As for myself, my GTX 580 runs at a cool 42C, with everything maxed out at 1920x1200; and my i7 980X hovers around 10-15% CPU load. So all is well. I *love* the new shiny CQ look, and I'd don't like to see it nerfed again, pretty please.


take a walk, mate...


TZeer
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:42:00 - [567]
 

I`m impressed....

By how ****ty this expansion was.

CQ, what a joke!! Turned it off asap.

Unscannable ships, **** implementation from your side. Have nothing against being able to be scanned down, but you should seriously have fixed the way scanning works before implementing this adjustment. Fighting at range is no longer a viable tactic, as you will be scanned down in 5 seconds.

Blob > Everything else

One single thing I liked, jump bridge changes, that's basically it.



Jerewan
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:43:00 - [568]
 

Edited by: Jerewan on 22/06/2011 16:10:24
I Noticed today that I accidentally target objects when I press ctrl+space to stop the ship or look at things when activating my MWD with alt+F1.

I'm quite sure this was not the case before.
Is it just me? Maybe I lost one +int implant Laughing

So i disabled those keys, maybe i should remap them to something else.

e:
+ auto sorting after "stack all" is great
+ agent finder seems to be fine as far as i tried it
o new icons are... "new", probably will get used to them
- where the hell is my info button and corp logo (top right) in stations? ()
- cq, nothing to add; my daily workflow (buy, sell stuff, exchange items between ship-station etc) is as of today no workflow anymore. I should spent more time in space - and start to use keyboard shortcuts to open hangar, cargo and item storageVery Happy

Ste'ven Sch'orik
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:46:00 - [569]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Illadelph Justice

You need to fix the crushing heat problems in the hardware. I have no idea why the game is causing so much CPU and GPU strain, but that's unacceptable. I damn near lost my graphics card last night.


Please, CCP, do NOT 'fix the crushing heat problems in the hardware.' People with crappy hardware should just lower their graphical settings. Period.

As for myself, my GTX 580 runs at a cool 42C, with everything maxed out at 1920x1200; and my i7 980X hovers around 10-15% CPU load. So all is well. I *love* the new shiny CQ look, and I'd don't like to see it nerfed again, pretty please.

Please ignore the self-centered scumbag.
As for Incarna...
Now my gpu is overheating even on lowest graphical settings. No actual improvement graphically in anything other than turrets and somehow my gpu is overheating when just before this patch it was running fine. What the heck did yall do in order for this to happen! I'll be lucky if I can even run a single mission. WTH CCP. WTH!

Prokyn
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:48:00 - [570]
 

Originally by: Archaicc
Simply LOVE it. Can't wait for the next part to come out! :D

Me too. I love it.

What is wrong?
-Lights. Too dark.
-Slow walking
-Camera


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