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CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:07:00 - [1]
 

EVE Online: Incarna has been deployed. Incarna 1.0 features Captainís Quarters, the new Nobel Exchange, new graphics and animations for turrets, and a lot more. Please check the patch notes for full details.

Please note that any issues you may encounter with this patch should be directed to the Incarna 1.0 Issues Thread.

Jet Burns
Gallente
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:12:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Jet Burns on 22/06/2011 05:55:00
Edited by: Jet Burns on 22/06/2011 03:47:17
Edited 20 times by: Jet Burns on 22/06/2011 03:06:27


** ITEM 1 - Sense of scale is gone.

I remember CCP announcement that "a fix" to bring small ships to the foreground would allow people to see their detail. Well, in doing so, you just borked all sense of scale.

A Caldari Shuttle is sans a bit smaller then a Raven. You can't see depth in 2D, so you see the center round thingy stage in the middle of the hanger and that indicates the center. But the ships are no longer located at that point. Your devs great idea to show small ships have moved the small ships closer to the platform, and thus, scale is now messed up. Place your finger close to your nose and it fills half the world. Take the same finger at arms length and you can't cover the moon.

Suggestion: Allow for a free camera in the ship's hanger as an "option". Allow the user to switch camera "modes" that is centered on the ship (just as you do in space). How cool would it be to see yourself in the distance looking back upon your ship. *** THIS will also allow us to spin our ships to our hearts content, and yes, we are discontented you took an Eve-Online Mime away from us. Restore it. This new camera mode would do much for that sense of scale, and allow people to zoom up on their tiny ships.

** ITEM 2 - Gun Turrets

2a) Actual turrets are cool and nice that they tuck away to avoid the wind in warp (I guess that keeps them from getting ripped off in the wind of subspace. Submarine physics ftw).
2b) Some of the actual turrets are known as 4 barrel, but the turrets are only 2 barrel. You are going to fix that with an update before you tear your scrum team off to something shiny yes?
2c) Some of us are old, when the progress bar spins, it's much smaller and harder to see.
2d) The Caldari icons on the target in space are next to invisible.
2e) The Caldari icons for the turrets have no definition (Suggestion, maybe overlay text like 150mm, and 75mm or something)
2f) See post 223 of the issues thread for picture... mining lasers are shooting through the ship (which really is ticking off the scrubby mining crews breakfast time)

** Item 3 - The hud

Thank you for restoring the yellow to the capacitor vs the orange that was out for awhile.

** Item 4 - Captain's Quarters

4a) Why do you make me walk to a certain range before I can activate a button. Just allow us to click it. (I know you want to enforce space and us moving in 3d, but really, not in our quarters).
4b) Ship drag to deploy. (I'm fairly even tempered but this is getting to me.)
4c) Lighting, allow us to control. Way to dark, can't see half of the good stuff you have done because I have seen it on YouTube. Our monitors are not the same you get on Corporate Vendor Sales.
4d) Allow us to lay on the bed. It's bad enough there is no bathroom and I have to undock just to pee in my pod, but not allowing me to lay down. Fix.
4e) Pod embark/debark in public space? You remove Pleasure Hubs but support open nudity? Breaks the immersion from the fiction and the fan videos you did. I'm hoping this was just a quick Minmatar style fix to roll out Incarna, but for the Caldari and Amarr, it should be more private. Not sure about us Gallente.
4f) News screen. Off button. Please watch any episode of Max Headroom to understand why.
4g) Allow re-customization again. "Why didn't anyone tell me my butt is so big", Mel Brooks

** Item 5 - Character Customization

The new me, I'm holding my breath.

** Item 6 - Hilmar

Please leave your office once in awhile. Hang up the phone with Sony and grab your game designers. Walk with them among your developers and use your developer mind you had not just a scant few years ago. Don't allow them to "talk you into a look" that you know you should speak up about. Remember you were a player too.


(I'm first in thread? Kewl, and yes Cry Havoc lurks the darkness of New Eden (heh

Reilly Duvolle
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:14:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Reilly Duvolle on 21/06/2011 23:45:53
Just saw the prices in the RMT store.


and......Shocked

HAHA

Oh My God CCP.... Inappropriate comment removed. Spitfire

1 x plex = 19.95 USD, 1 x Plex = 3.500 AUR.
- "Looking Glass Ocular Implant": 12.000 AUR = 68.40 USD = about 5 months of gametime paid by credit card.
- "Womens Sterling dress Blouse": 4.400 AUR = 25.08 USD

Brilliant.

You know, I can get cheaper real pants in my local store than I have to pay for virtual pants in this store. Well at least there is no reason to worry about excessive increase of plex usage. Also, you dont have to use the term "micro" transactions.

Vyl Vit
Minmatar
Cambio Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:16:00 - [4]
 

Vanity has its cost.

Hoshi
Hedron Industries
Red Dwarf Racketeering Division
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:18:00 - [5]
 

Please return the ability to switch ships by dragging them from the hangar to the main view.

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:23:00 - [6]
 

Reserved!

R Mika
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:24:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: R Mika on 21/06/2011 23:28:10
As one who was not sure about vanity items, I would like to personally thank CCP on this one. They are ridiculously expensive and will not be purchased.

Thanks for making it an easy choice.

Sarmatiko
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:27:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Sarmatiko on 21/06/2011 23:28:40
So where is mine Quafe T-shirt? ugh

Originally by: Vyl Vit
Vanity has its cost.

also this

Roan Pico
Amarr
I- T I E -I
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:27:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Reilly Duvolle
Oh My God CCP.... The JEW is strong in this one


... antisemitism is strong in ^^ this ^^ one ugh

Bethany Trader Hot
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:28:00 - [10]
 

WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH CCP


Let me just run right out and spend money from my family's budget on a new laptop so I can play a game that I have spent many hours building a character on just because some little prick in the dev department has decided that I can afford that.

Everything else works fine on my laptop so I see no need in wasting money on a new just for the sake of some ******* run company like CCP.

Subscription canceled...

Sunbird Huy
Caldari
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:28:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Sunbird Huy on 21/06/2011 23:30:14
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Reserved!


When will personal guns be available on market? I want to buy a desert eagle and blow the brains out of my each character.

Thanks for making me cringe when I think of playing EVE now. I can confirm several people already stopping subscription to EVE online.

On a side note, one client runs ok, 60fps as limited by game*didn;t mess with that, I would love to have my new GPU to last at least a few more days...
The noise did increase considerably.
The movement is ******ed, utterly. Now we have to learn all the fricking shortcuts in EVE so we can do a single FING THING TIMELY. good bye assisting a friend on undock point or stuff like that. At least you could have added RUN option or something.... JESUS SAD SAD AND PATHETIC.

But at least I am on the first page. Holy ****, you have really done it this time....

rampro
Lock Stock and Smoking Barrels.
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:28:00 - [12]
 

looks amazing

Reilly Duvolle
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:28:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Reilly Duvolle on 21/06/2011 23:29:32
Originally by: Roan Pico
Originally by: Reilly Duvolle
Oh My God CCP.... The JEW is strong in this one


... antisemitism is strong in ^^ this ^^ one ugh

Its slang dude, but whatever. sorry to hurt your feelings

Argus Kell
Gallente
Lost Enterprises...
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:30:00 - [14]
 

Brief feedback. I ****ing love it. Worth the wait. I am seriously getting me a pair of precision boots.

I think that the main screen should make more noise (mutable noise) to make it more of a main feature to pay attention to.

I had a bug when recustomizing where my trousers then my whole body turned black (as if it wasn't lit or the pixel shader was just saying 'return 0').

I've used the word incredible about eight times in the past ten minutes. Genuinely, walking out to see my megathron "first hand" was an amazing experience.

Thank you for making Eve an even better game. Such an incredible expension.

Argus

Amber Villaneous
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:33:00 - [15]
 

I can't spin my ships you fuggin a$$hats!

Ni Jien
Gallente
Asgard.
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:33:00 - [16]
 

Who was somkeing crack when they set the price for the arum exchange.. and entire plex for a jacket yea **** that i am not playing an entire month's worth of game time to pimp out my character this needs to be tweeked!

Jess Ica
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:34:00 - [17]
 

This patch sucks as anticipated and at least for now totaly useless unless ur a guy getting excited seeing "urself" virtually.
Come on this game has nothing to do with walking around and wasting time to walk from 1 console to the other.

- Add an option to turn to old station view pls as this sucks without it.


Ava Stonlai
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:35:00 - [18]
 

Can I get an option for quieter foot stomping like we have for turret sounds? That or maybe someone could weld down the grates, or put actual rubber on my shoes.

Jaron Terrkin
ZERO T0LERANCE
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:37:00 - [19]
 

You got to be kidding me.
Eve just jumped from 400 MB mem usage to 890MB.
I got a state of the art graficcard and it s ffn laging with 2 clients logged in.

And btw...yay for the pelx prices CCP...50 Bugs for some weird looking item nobody has a use for? Are u insane?

And btw...I WANT TO GOD DAMM SPIN MY ****ING SHIP!!

Except for the new maller model...most useless expansion EVER

Ancyker
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:39:00 - [20]
 

What is this ****? I was all ready to buy virtual clothes but these fake clothes cost more than real clothes.

Seriously, who thought of this? Promptly fire them and hire someone not a complete moron.

My credit card is now safely back in my wallet. When these prices are reasonable get back to me.

Drahcir Nasom
Independent Manufacturers
Independent Manufacturers Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:39:00 - [21]
 

Can I just say I absolutely hate the new turret icons, they look like cartoons, and they not as easily identifiable as the old ones.

Drahcir

p.s. Reilly Duvolle can you get rid of that stupidly long hahahaha in your message, it totally screws up the formatting of the forums.

Zleon Leigh
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:40:00 - [22]
 

Thanks for providing WiS turn off switch. One miserable walk around the CQ and I'm done with WiS.


Bek Thyron
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:41:00 - [23]
 

1. Lights in CQ are a bit off. Maybe thats just my card, will test on another PC tomorrow.

2. Do not lower the prices on the vanity items. Yes, i am serious. They should be very expensive and exclusive. So, let the prices as is.

3. Have not tested by myself, but heard rumors of bombs in lowsec? If true: EPIC WIN.

4. Performance is better now unlike on Sisi. Cannot really tell why, i did not change my setup.

CORPSE FEMALE
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:41:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: CORPSE FEMALE on 21/06/2011 23:42:28
I am horrible about this.

Russians take aim! Operation Red Dawn is in effect!

Angel HUN
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:41:00 - [25]
 

Why did you waste so much time on this?

Please give hanger view back, and make Incarna something that you CHOOSE to enter once in station.

Druj Andarr
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:42:00 - [26]
 

Minor, MINOR difficulty with new patch:

There was an unexpected error while retrieving update status:

Unable to download file mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz from the server.
Error: url //cdn1.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz not found


Do you want to go to support page?"

Yes and no both have no effect...

Xessej
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:42:00 - [27]
 

Choosing the option to not load station environment does not give you back the old view of your ship that everyone is used to. It puts up a useless wall with a useless psuedo door.

Please give those of us who didn't want incarna and will never use incarna the ability to keep playing Eve just like we always have.

Liner Xiandra
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:42:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Liner Xiandra on 21/06/2011 23:45:45
I turned off my CQ after just 5 minutes when it finally loaded. No thank you on claustrophobic, unresponsive, slowloading, unusable user interface.

The stripminer effects are... underwhelming to say the least. I see just a single blue line? Even less impressive than the ice mining strips effect from incursions&before.

Morgan Polaris
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:42:00 - [29]
 

Mwhaahaha, 4 x PLEX for an ocular implant??

Turrets are cool, WiS was and is vaporware. GTFO.

flammkuchen
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:43:00 - [30]
 

Quick Feedback: Update is overall lame.


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