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Khefira
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:42:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Cutter Isaacson
Originally by: Khefira
- No new gameplay-features added
- Only one out of four CQs got finished (which doesn't add gameplay features either, it only looks "kind of fancy")
- Still no interaction with other player's avatars
- ONE new ship model
- Still no missile bays
- No new ships added
- CCP tries to milk its players for money by introducing microtransaction
- Patch notes say:
"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldnít affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.

If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life. But no, I play EVE because of the internet spaceships gameplay - and this expansion has done next to nothing to it.


WTB the 2003-Dominion Dev Team, at least they added GOOD gameplay features.


WTB a brain cell to keep the other one you have company. Since it has clearly escaped your attention, CCP no longer release full expansions in one big chunk, rather they now release them as "iterations". You get the initial release, followed by 2 or 3 of these "iterations" which all add up to an expansion. This practice first started with Incursions and was deemed successful enough that it has been adopted as the format for ALL future releases.

Perhaps if you spent more time learning to read, and less time carefully crafting tin foil hats you might learn something.


You have obviously no idea for how long Incarna has been in development?
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777
August 2010

NWO Scarface
No Way Out
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:43:00 - [32]
 

Fail thread all i see here is whining and *****ing about a free exp come on grow up. Its not like they ask us to fork out more money when every other mmo does that aka WoW

Kain Estidal
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:43:00 - [33]
 

Ever thought of ignoring Incarna, and simply focus on the spaceship part of EVE?
Incarna will only come to play when you are docked, and there you can still use all the old buttons. So you dont have to walk an inch in Incarna.
And I guess Aurum "overpowered" stuff will be put out in Contracts and the Market. So I guess you will sooner or later get some yourself.

So ignore Incarna, and siply see this downtime as a chance to go outside and get some sun on your pale skin.

Anna Maziarczyk
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:45:00 - [34]
 

wow.

i think the OP hit home....

Youve managed to pull out more than the usual amount of tool propoganda posts.

well done.

Riddick Liddell
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:46:00 - [35]
 

It will be untill the next one.
My vote still goes to Dominion.

Khira Kitamatsu
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:46:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Khefira
- No new gameplay-features added
- Only one out of four CQs got finished (which doesn't add gameplay features either, it only looks "kind of fancy")
- Still no interaction with other player's avatars
- ONE new ship model
- Still no missile bays
- No new ships added
- CCP tries to milk its players for money by introducing microtransaction
- Patch notes say:
"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldnít affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.

If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life. But no, I play EVE because of the internet spaceships gameplay - and this expansion has done next to nothing to it.


WTB the 2003-Dominion Dev Team, at least they added GOOD gameplay features.


Since, I take it, this is your goodbye thread, seeing how distraught you are over Incarna, feel free to send all ISK to my account. I can use it!

Khefira
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:48:00 - [37]
 

Still failing to see arguments that Incarna isn't the worst expansion to date...

Keep the rage coming guys. YARRRR!!

Syn Fatelyng
Dathmora
Redanni
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:49:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Khefira
Still failing to see arguments that Incarna isn't the worst expansion to date...

Keep the rage coming guys. YARRRR!!
Confirmed troll.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:50:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT

Really? What a life you must have to complain about another free improvement. Did your parents not hit you enough or something?



It's free? Please let us all know where to get this free subscription.

Khefira
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:50:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Khefira on 21/06/2011 16:50:09
Originally by: Syn Fatelyng
Originally by: Khefira
Still failing to see arguments that Incarna isn't the worst expansion to date...

Keep the rage coming guys. YARRRR!!
He is posting things i don't understand nor can confute. Confirmed troll.

Isidore Tailleur
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:51:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Isidore Tailleur on 21/06/2011 16:56:41
Edited by: Isidore Tailleur on 21/06/2011 16:51:55
Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
Seriously if CCP were to introduce ships and modules that are "overpowered", and there has been no evidence to say that they will, how is this any different then buying PLEX with RL cash, selling in eve for isk and then buying officer mods?


The difference is that when someone buys a PLEX sell it for ISK and get officer mods it lowers the price of PLEX and makes the game cheaper for the rest of us. Especially the dude selling the officer mod...

With AUR the PLEX will just go poof which means that BOUGHT GAME TIME is being destroyed making the game more expensive to play for those paying in ISK. If everyone where to blow up there PLEX like this CCP should however make enough from these "donations" to lower the subscription and GTC price ... but how likely is that ...

Mr R4nd0m
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:52:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: NWO Scarface
Fail thread all i see here is whining and *****ing about a free exp come on grow up. Its not like they ask us to fork out more money when every other mmo does that aka WoW


What a stupid statement, please dont compare wow expansions to eve - Wow expansions are far far superior to bloody eve expansions if thats what you call them, more like features!

Syn Fatelyng
Dathmora
Redanni
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:52:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Khefira
Edited by: Khefira on 21/06/2011 16:50:09
Originally by: Syn Fatelyng
Originally by: Khefira
Still failing to see arguments that Incarna isn't the worst expansion to date...

Keep the rage coming guys. YARRRR!!
He is posting things i don't understand nor can confute. Confirmed troll.

You'll have to do better than that Wink 2/10

Rylor's PleasureHub
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:53:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Token Afrodude
Originally by: Syn Fatelyng
PLEX can be purchased from ISK. Some people buy GTCs with real money and convert them into PLEX, for use or to sell. Others buy PLEXes with ISK. A large number of people pay for their EVE accounts by buying PLEXes with the large amounts of ISK they generate. Myself included.



Every single plex in game came from RL cash. how YOU got it isnt the point. they ALL started with a RL cash transaction.


Except for the what, 350ish? that were rewarded from ATs.

Gallinari
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:57:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Mightylink
When I quit WoW to join EVE, I didn't realize I brought the community with me... seriously I thought people where better here v_v


Its funny how people make fun of WoW's community when EVERY MMO's community is like that.

+1 to you!

impli
Singularity.
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:57:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT
Originally by: Khefira
- No new gameplay-features added
- Only one out of four CQs got finished (which doesn't add gameplay features either, it only looks "kind of fancy")
- Still no interaction with other player's avatars
- ONE new ship model
- Still no missile bays
- No new ships added
- CCP tries to milk its players for money by introducing microtransaction
- Patch notes say:
"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldnít affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.

If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life. But no, I play EVE because of the internet spaceships gameplay - and this expansion has done next to nothing to it.


WTB the 2003-Dominion Dev Team, at least they added GOOD gameplay features.


Really? What a life you must have to complain about another free improvement. Did your parents not hit you enough or something?

Do you think that changing the entire game is some simple task? They could have just pulled the plug on Eve and started creating a completely different game, but they chose to be loyal to their customers and add the new CONTENT as a free expansion..once again. You think they are milking you for money? Don't ****ing spend the money. It is not required to play and in no way are they forcing you to do it.

They have explained in more than enough detail that this expansion will take some time and a few phases to implement. Anyone with half the IQ necessary for normal bodily function should be able to see that what they are doing here is an extremely difficult and significant upgrade and modification to this game.

Your post is just pointless drivel about things you obviously don't understand at all. There is absolutely nothing for you to complain about here, period. STFU you dumb little child.


+++++ fully agree

Khefira
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:02:00 - [47]
 

>CCP adding things that are basically what hats are to TF2
>CCP does this to drive PLEX prices through the roof
>More players won't be able to pay for their game-time with PLEX
>Are forced to buy their game time with RL money

Free Expansion
I don't think you understand the reason why CCP incorporated the NeX/Aurum. Akita T (a very respectable member of the EVE-O forums) made this clear before.

Bayram Blacklion
Caldari
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:03:00 - [48]
 

i agree with the topic ,and all you tards that love to defend CCP when they fail go fu yourselfs.
go ahead and hate i promise you guys i have no love for you either.
ill be in egglehende

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:05:00 - [49]
 

Incarna is to EVE what the prequels were to StarWars.

Highly anticipated but utter disappointments.

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:09:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Syn Fatelyng
Originally by: Token Afrodude
Every single plex in game came from RL cash. how YOU got it isnt the point. they ALL started with a RL cash transaction.
That is the point, don't you see? He is complaining about having to spend his own real life cash for vanity items when that isn't the case. The entire point made is that the individual player can decide how to acquire the vanity items, not how PLEXes make it to the market.

If you disagree, or if my words were not written clearly enough, then there's little else to discuss.


Hello there, you seem to have a strong case of the stupid; I suggest you take a long lie down away from a computer so we dont have to read anything you type for a while.

Try and understand that without real world currency being pumped into CCPs pockets, be it fancy dollars or shiny euros, no Aurum would exist to buy your dapper dan space flatcap, or your PVC-look figure hugging catsuit. Personally, I dont think that content 100% reliant on extra payments beyond your subscription fee should be lauded or encouraged in any shape or form, and it is quite revealing as to the future direction of this game.

Remember when CCP used to release expansions free of charge?
That time is over, pay-for-content has arrived

THIS is what the OP was trying to make you understand.

What the OP wasnt debating that you have no life outside EVE and play the game for hours upon hours grinding up enough isk to pay for a monthly subscription using PLEX bought from the market; thats a given.

Saying you play the game for free by buying plex is the same as saying minerals you mine are free is the same as saying you have a 'choice' to not use AUR when buying barbie doll clothes.

Plasmatiq
Malicious Destruction
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:13:00 - [51]
 

Players have been whining about the ability to walk in stations since beta...yes, I was there and remember it well.

It only took almost 10 years to deliver it...either an amazing achievement or massive failure depending on your point of view.

Pookie McPook
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:13:00 - [52]
 

OP pretty quick jumping in with the damning indictment of Incarna when the servers aren't even up. Seeing as we don't pay any extra for the "expansions" I find it hard to agree with his criticisms.
Aurum is a fairly innocuous method of microtransaction when you compare it with other games where you are virtually forced to shell out the money in order just to be competitive. There is absolutely NO reason to partake of the system unless you are into dressing up barbie dolls.

Personally I just hope that the CQ module doesn't end up being such a huge resource hog demanding cutting edge hardware that it affects the new player uptake of the game or indeed puts off existing players who are not into upgrading their systems every year.

Admiral Risalo
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:15:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Khefira
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"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldnít affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.



i saw nothing in that post saying you would buy overpowered modules, it said that they overhauled the way that attributes affect ALL modules. oh, and you know people will be selling these items for regular isk right? so you dont have to spend your real cash.

Reteris
Caldari
Eaglewrath Incorporated
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:15:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Khefira
- No new gameplay-features added
- Only one out of four CQs got finished (which doesn't add gameplay features either, it only looks "kind of fancy")
- Still no interaction with other player's avatars
- ONE new ship model
- Still no missile bays
- No new ships added
- CCP tries to milk its players for money by introducing microtransaction
- Patch notes say:
"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldnít affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.

If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life. But no, I play EVE because of the internet spaceships gameplay - and this expansion has done next to nothing to it.


WTB the 2003-Dominion Dev Team, at least they added GOOD gameplay features.


You do realize that vanity items, along with the CQ is completely optional. Noone is forcing you to purchase vanity items and no one is forcing you to enter CQ (there is an option do disable CQ from the ESC menu, putting you back to the hangar only view)

Syn Fatelyng
Dathmora
Redanni
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:16:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Skippermonkey
stuff
Straw man and ad hominem in one post. We're done, here.

Morgan Knight
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:18:00 - [56]
 

Speaking as someone who is quite looking forward to Incarna (if the servers ever come back up) I do need to point out that itís not free. We are paying a monthly subscription and expansions are part of a paid service. Itís true that WoW charge about £20 for major expansions but WoW is also about £4 per month cheaper to play. Just saying, the OP has a right to their opinion and that people shouting him/her down saying itís free expansion donít really have an argument.

Khefira
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:19:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Pookie McPook
OP pretty quick jumping in with the damning indictment of Incarna when the servers aren't even up. Seeing as we don't pay any extra for the "expansions" I find it hard to agree with his criticisms.
Aurum is a fairly innocuous method of microtransaction when you compare it with other games where you are virtually forced to shell out the money in order just to be competitive. There is absolutely NO reason to partake of the system unless you are into dressing up barbie dolls.

Personally I just hope that the CQ module doesn't end up being such a huge resource hog demanding cutting edge hardware that it affects the new player uptake of the game or indeed puts off existing players who are not into upgrading their systems every year.


-Incarna has been on Duality and SiSi for quite some time now, patch notes are public as well
-Incarna will make the PLEX prices go poof, forcing more players to pay with a real life currency instead of PLEX
-As said before, the only reason Aurum exists is this ^. It doesn't matter if YOU take part in dressing up barbie dolls, other people will, causing the PLEX prices to skyrocket
-CCP still has the option to add items for AUR, which are vital for staying competitive (see the DOGMA changes in the patch notes)

-It will sure as hell waste development resources that would be better off elsewhere. Also some people already have reported their graphics card doesnt support the new CQ

Julius Mayaki
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:20:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Khefira
- No new gameplay-features added
- Only one out of four CQs got finished (which doesn't add gameplay features either, it only looks "kind of fancy")
- Still no interaction with other player's avatars
- ONE new ship model
- Still no missile bays
- No new ships added
- CCP tries to milk its players for money by introducing microtransaction
- Patch notes say:
"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldnít affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."


Less QQ. Moar Pew Pew.

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.

If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life. But no, I play EVE because of the internet spaceships gameplay - and this expansion has done next to nothing to it.


WTB the 2003-Dominion Dev Team, at least they added GOOD gameplay features.

Dotanaski
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:20:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Morgan Knight
Speaking as someone who is quite looking forward to Incarna (if the servers ever come back up) I do need to point out that itís not free. We are paying a monthly subscription and expansions are part of a paid service. Itís true that WoW charge about £20 for major expansions but WoW is also about £4 per month cheaper to play. Just saying, the OP has a right to their opinion and that people shouting him/her down saying itís free expansion donít really have an argument.



You compared WoW to EVE, you sir, should sit in a corner and die a horribly, slow and bloody death.

Syn Fatelyng
Dathmora
Redanni
Posted - 2011.06.21 17:20:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Morgan Knight
Speaking as someone who is quite looking forward to Incarna (if the servers ever come back up) I do need to point out that itís not free. We are paying a monthly subscription and expansions are part of a paid service. Itís true that WoW charge about £20 for major expansions but WoW is also about £4 per month cheaper to play. Just saying, the OP has a right to their opinion and that people shouting him/her down saying itís free expansion donít really have an argument.
I'd like to point out that the monthly fee for WoW is the same price as the monthly fee for EVE. Both are $14.95 a month for USD.


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