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Khefira
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:23:00 - [1]
 

- No new gameplay-features added
- Only one out of four CQs got finished (which doesn't add gameplay features either, it only looks "kind of fancy")
- Still no interaction with other player's avatars
- ONE new ship model
- Still no missile bays
- No new ships added
- CCP tries to milk its players for money by introducing microtransaction
- Patch notes say:
"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldn’t affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.

If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life. But no, I play EVE because of the internet spaceships gameplay - and this expansion has done next to nothing to it.


WTB the 2003-Dominion Dev Team, at least they added GOOD gameplay features.

Syn Fatelyng
Dathmora
Redanni
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:25:00 - [2]
 

Quote:
If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life
The in-game vanity items are purchased with a in-game currency that is obtained via PLEX. Real life cash does not have to be involved.

Token Afrodude
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:26:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Syn Fatelyng
The in-game vanity items are purchased with a in-game currency that is obtained via PLEX. Real life cash does not have to be involved.



Where do you think plex comes from?

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:26:00 - [4]
 

wow all of these things you said have just totally changed my opinion of incarna.

Carleton Hendricks
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:28:00 - [5]
 

Just remember to give your stuff away b4 the ragequit...

KTHXBYE

Syn Fatelyng
Dathmora
Redanni
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:28:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Token Afrodude
Where do you think plex comes from?
PLEX can be purchased from ISK. Some people buy GTCs with real money and convert them into PLEX, for use or to sell. Others buy PLEXes with ISK. A large number of people pay for their EVE accounts by buying PLEXes with the large amounts of ISK they generate. Myself included.

LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:28:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Khefira
- No new gameplay-features added
- Only one out of four CQs got finished (which doesn't add gameplay features either, it only looks "kind of fancy")
- Still no interaction with other player's avatars
- ONE new ship model
- Still no missile bays
- No new ships added
- CCP tries to milk its players for money by introducing microtransaction
- Patch notes say:
"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldn’t affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.

If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life. But no, I play EVE because of the internet spaceships gameplay - and this expansion has done next to nothing to it.


WTB the 2003-Dominion Dev Team, at least they added GOOD gameplay features.


Really? What a life you must have to complain about another free improvement. Did your parents not hit you enough or something?

Do you think that changing the entire game is some simple task? They could have just pulled the plug on Eve and started creating a completely different game, but they chose to be loyal to their customers and add the new CONTENT as a free expansion..once again. You think they are milking you for money? Don't ****ing spend the money. It is not required to play and in no way are they forcing you to do it.

They have explained in more than enough detail that this expansion will take some time and a few phases to implement. Anyone with half the IQ necessary for normal bodily function should be able to see that what they are doing here is an extremely difficult and significant upgrade and modification to this game.

Your post is just pointless drivel about things you obviously don't understand at all. There is absolutely nothing for you to complain about here, period. STFU you dumb little child.

Token Afrodude
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:29:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Syn Fatelyng
PLEX can be purchased from ISK. Some people buy GTCs with real money and convert them into PLEX, for use or to sell. Others buy PLEXes with ISK. A large number of people pay for their EVE accounts by buying PLEXes with the large amounts of ISK they generate. Myself included.



Every single plex in game came from RL cash. how YOU got it isnt the point. they ALL started with a RL cash transaction.

Eklesiastico
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:31:00 - [9]
 

You made your very own thread about Incarna instead of posting in one of the 235443645879 other threads.

How cute

LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:31:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Ayieka
wow all of these things you said have just totally changed my opinion of incarna.


Yea..it is always best to gain your education and to form your opinions based on misinformation given by some spoiled little child in a forum. Thanks for being the shining example of the educational success of the human race.

</sarcasm>

Token Afrodude
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:31:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT
Originally by: Khefira
- No new gameplay-features added
- Only one out of four CQs got finished (which doesn't add gameplay features either, it only looks "kind of fancy")
- Still no interaction with other player's avatars
- ONE new ship model
- Still no missile bays
- No new ships added
- CCP tries to milk its players for money by introducing microtransaction
- Patch notes say:
"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldn’t affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.

If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life. But no, I play EVE because of the internet spaceships gameplay - and this expansion has done next to nothing to it.


WTB the 2003-Dominion Dev Team, at least they added GOOD gameplay features.


Really? What a life you must have to complain about another improvement my subs pays for. Did your parents not hit you enough or something?

Do you think that changing the entire game is some simple task? They could have just pulled the plug on Eve and started creating a completely different game, but they chose to be loyal to their customers and add the new CONTENT as a free expansion..once again. You think they are milking you for money? Don't ****ing spend the money. It is not required to play and in no way are they forcing you to do it.

They have explained in more than enough detail that this expansion will take some time and a few phases to implement. Anyone with half the IQ necessary for normal bodily function should be able to see that what they are doing here is an extremely difficult and significant upgrade and modification to this game.

Your post is just pointless drivel about things you obviously don't understand at all. There is absolutely nothing for you to complain about here, period. STFU you dumb little child.


FYP.


Morganta
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:31:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Morganta on 21/06/2011 16:32:02
CCP contracting - "Hi we're going to remodel your house and also build an extension, but for it to work right we need to re-engineer the basic structure of your house, this of course is at no cost to you and gives you some badly needed updates to your existing structure."

homeowner - "FFFFUUUUU, thats the weakest thing I ever heard, you didn't even offer to give me a new throw pillow and curtains"


Ryn Lee
Caldari
Infinite Horizons
The Jagged Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:31:00 - [13]
 

I was hoping and praying for UI scaling... playing on my 65 inch TV @ 900 x 700 just so I can read **** shouldn't be the case. I want to play @ the highest resolution I can and scale the UI to that size.


Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:32:00 - [14]
 

You say this every expansion.

Vampy Rella
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:32:00 - [15]
 

OP has Random Whining and Moaning about Everything both trained to 5. An accomplishment shared with many other forum users.

Syn Fatelyng
Dathmora
Redanni
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:32:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Token Afrodude
Every single plex in game came from RL cash. how YOU got it isnt the point. they ALL started with a RL cash transaction.
That is the point, don't you see? He is complaining about having to spend his own real life cash for vanity items when that isn't the case. The entire point made is that the individual player can decide how to acquire the vanity items, not how PLEXes make it to the market.

If you disagree, or if my words were not written clearly enough, then there's little else to discuss.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:32:00 - [17]
 

It's big from a game dev point of view.
It's small from a game play point of view.

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:33:00 - [18]
 

OP is a fail alt trolls. And has obviously never been around for boot.ini.

LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:33:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Token Afrodude
Originally by: Syn Fatelyng
PLEX can be purchased from ISK. Some people buy GTCs with real money and convert them into PLEX, for use or to sell. Others buy PLEXes with ISK. A large number of people pay for their EVE accounts by buying PLEXes with the large amounts of ISK they generate. Myself included.



Every single plex in game came from RL cash. how YOU got it isnt the point. they ALL started with a RL cash transaction.


Actually it IS the point. Nobody is forcing you to buy plex dumbass. You could just pay a monthly subscription like EVERY OTHER MMO worth playing. I buy my plex with ISK and none of my RL money is being spent. Who cares how they got there in the first place? If you don't want to spend the cash, spend the ISK. If you don't have either then you can sit around in your pod begging for cash...just like people who don't have money in real life. You don't pay, you don't play.

Alexzia Sevic
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:34:00 - [20]
 

What??? People paying RL money for modules and ships? NEVER! Plex isn't some tool that allows you to do exactly that, its completely and 100% different!

/sarcasm off

Seriously if CCP were to introduce ships and modules that are "overpowered", and there has been no evidence to say that they will, how is this any different then buying PLEX with RL cash, selling in eve for isk and then buying officer mods?

Also no one is forcing you to buy clothes for your avatar. CCP is only milking you if you let them.

Kira Phyrexia
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:35:00 - [21]
 

As the CCP devs said in a video. This update is basically a platform to create much more content. Just look to the future when the cross game interaction will come through this expansion allows that.

This basically just sows the seeds of creativity and possibilities for future patches expansions and additions.

In 2003 there was very little, now there is masses of content just from 1 game mechanic.

Eve has always been a game for the patient.

Khefira
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:35:00 - [22]
 

LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT wrote
Quote:
HURR


No, YOU don't get it. Previous expansions were ALL about improving the space-side gameplay of EVE. EVE is changing to the worse, this is just the first step. I wonder when we will see the next expansion that will be focused on space-gameplay (well, except for Dust). As I said, i want to fly my ships, have awesome new gameplay mechanics added like CCP did before, not playing an entirely different game. Also, cool ad hominem bro, that just shows how you can even bring up good and valid arguments.

Slymah
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:35:00 - [23]
 

OP QQ's about CCP adding "fluff" and also QQ's there isn't enough "fluff" in the expansion?

complainer's complain

LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:36:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
It's big from a game dev point of view.
It's small from a game play point of view.


No, it is only small from an ignorance point of view

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:36:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Alexzia Sevic
What??? People paying RL money for modules and ships? NEVER! Plex isn't some tool that allows you to do exactly that, its completely and 100% different!

/sarcasm off

Seriously if CCP were to introduce ships and modules that are "overpowered", and there has been no evidence to say that they will, how is this any different then buying PLEX with RL cash, selling in eve for isk and then buying officer mods?

Also no one is forcing you to buy clothes for your avatar. CCP is only milking you if you let them.

It's only milking you if you're forced into it, so rather than it being milking you it's more like a pay-for-a-pretty-bonus. It's not Project 10 Dollar, it's more like TF2 hats.

Raze Zindonas
Asgard.
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:36:00 - [26]
 

Isn't this part 1 of the Incarna release? The micro transactions are for vanity items. They wont give a leg up on the gameplay.Now if they start affecting gameplay I'll be ****ed, but now I'm just going to keep having fun with my Corp mates blowing up other peoples ships. Free expansion...They could be like WoW and charge for it, but they dont.

I don't care about the avatars, or CQ. Is it cool? yeah. Are the new turrents sweet? Yeah. Do I care about customizing my toon? No. Hell, I just hit random a bunch of times are got what I have now.

I will be interested to see what part 2 of the Incrana release, but for now...I'm going to play with the CQ for abit...Then go back out and play Eve and pew pew.

Anna Maziarczyk
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:38:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Khefira
- No new gameplay-features added
- Only one out of four CQs got finished (which doesn't add gameplay features either, it only looks "kind of fancy")
- Still no interaction with other player's avatars
- ONE new ship model
- Still no missile bays
- No new ships added
- CCP tries to milk its players for money by introducing microtransaction
- Patch notes say:
"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldn’t affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.

If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life. But no, I play EVE because of the internet spaceships gameplay - and this expansion has done next to nothing to it.


WTB the 2003-Dominion Dev Team, at least they added GOOD gameplay features.


Not only that...but

People now have a way of obtaining anything in game via RL Cash.....

The US Market HATES cash shop mmorpg. So they cant just release straight up cash shops.

But, if they put one simple step inbetween RL Monies and in game stuff, will anyone notice?

Im guessin the first thread that puts 2 and 2 together will get BOMBARDED by "whine looflecopters...."

Mightylink
Caldari
New Haven Enterprises
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:39:00 - [28]
 

When I quit WoW to join EVE, I didn't realize I brought the community with me... seriously I thought people where better here v_v

Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Spycotics
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:40:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Khefira
- No new gameplay-features added
- Only one out of four CQs got finished (which doesn't add gameplay features either, it only looks "kind of fancy")
- Still no interaction with other player's avatars
- ONE new ship model
- Still no missile bays
- No new ships added
- CCP tries to milk its players for money by introducing microtransaction
- Patch notes say:
"Dogma, the process that handles attributes on items and how they are modified, was massively re-engineered. This change shouldn’t affect players or change gameplay in any way but is the groundwork for features in following releases."

Oh wow, so you will probably be able to buy new overpowered modules for your internetspaceships via Aurum, which you are supposed to create by converting PLEX you created with RL-Cash.

If I REALLY wanted to spend my RL Cash on internet fashion pixels and want to ****wave around other player's avatars with my fancy overpriced clothing, I'd play Second Life. But no, I play EVE because of the internet spaceships gameplay - and this expansion has done next to nothing to it.


WTB the 2003-Dominion Dev Team, at least they added GOOD gameplay features.


WTB a brain cell to keep the other one you have company. Since it has clearly escaped your attention, CCP no longer release full expansions in one big chunk, rather they now release them as "iterations". You get the initial release, followed by 2 or 3 of these "iterations" which all add up to an expansion. This practice first started with Incursions and was deemed successful enough that it has been adopted as the format for ALL future releases.

Perhaps if you spent more time learning to read, and less time carefully crafting tin foil hats you might learn something.

S7E
The Priesthood
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:42:00 - [30]
 

Worst forum post to date.


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