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Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:36:00 - [31]
 

WoohooO!! Awesome! Very Happy

Frau Klaps
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:38:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Originally by: Frau Klaps
Anchor bubble > anyone flying into it gets you Concorded > unable to unanchor bubble because everyone is getting you concorded every time you undock Laughing


Sounds good and its funny... Tho CONCORD doesn't shoot pods xD


try unanchoring a bubble in your pod.

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:39:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Hesperius
Sentry guns do not shoot the bubbles.


Does scrambling a neutral with a bubble count as an criminal offense?

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:39:00 - [34]
 

Anyways... OP mentions only bombs and probes in his post so lets leave the daydreams behind :)

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:40:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 21/06/2011 00:42:22
Yeees…

I bug reported that one almost a month ago. They had accidentally all the sec-level based "lauch" restrictions, so both bombs and interdiction probes could be used in high and lowsec. Even more fun was the fact that you could launch a bomb at a highsec station and not trigger any response, as long as you only hit the station.

The mail response they sent said that, when the fix hits TQ will depend on whether it can be part of a hotfix or if it requires a big fix (i.e. a full build release). There was a fix for it at the time though, at least according to the bugreport mail…

…the actual bug ticket, however, mentions that it couldn't be reproduced — hopefully because they did actually put that fix in. But if you can still do it on Sisi, 27 days after it was reported, 25 days after it was reportedly fixed internally, then who knows. Twisted Evil

But it was only those two launched effects — you still couldn't anchor bubbles or use an unscripted WDFG, so should it slip though, the highsec mayhem will be (every so slightly) limited. And yes, CONCORD does indeed take a dim view to people being caught in dictor bubbles.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:44:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Originally by: Raid'En
i do'nt see how that will fix low sec, as bubbles are the big fear of nullsec, if they put them on low, then one of the good things for travelers wil disapear from low, making people going less on low sec. and so less targets for you guys.


Dunno, what keeps me and I'd guess most people that pvp mainly in lowsec from nullsec apart from the occasional roam is more the hotdrop happyness and overkill response even a small gang prompts. (Though admittely, lowsec is going in that direction as well.)


Funny to see BANE complain about that, tbqfh.

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:48:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 21/06/2011 00:48:37
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Lilith Velkor

Dunno, what keeps me and I'd guess most people that pvp mainly in lowsec from nullsec apart from the occasional roam is more the hotdrop happyness and overkill response even a small gang prompts. (Though admittely, lowsec is going in that direction as well.)


Funny to see BANE complain about that, tbqfh.


Really? I've spent all my eve career in a corps with at most 5 people active at peak times until faction warfare came out.

I still prefer gangs of around 5 people, but there simply isnt much room for that anymore if you also have to pay for ships with your pvp. (And are living in an area that has more than 3 jumps per day traffic.)

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:48:00 - [38]
 

Well if CCP makes some slight changes to prevent low-sec to turn into the lock-down gatecamps that used to be the norm, I actually don't see big downsides to allowing bombs and dictor bubbles. It would be enough if the gate and stationsentries would pop the bubbles.

It'll be like a smartbomb, only on a pricey ship that has no chance of tanking low-sec sentries. And using it in empire is fine, but comes with even a bigger risk then smartbombs.

Putting one on Jita 4-4 for lulz would probably be enough to drop you below -5 in one go, so that is rather self-regulating.

Frau Klaps
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:51:00 - [39]
 

:excellence: in action.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:53:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Liang Nuren on 21/06/2011 00:53:44
Originally by: Lilith Velkor

Really? I've spent all my eve career in a corps with at most 5 people active at peak times until faction warfare came out.

I still prefer gangs of around 5 people, but there simply isnt much room for that anymore if you also have to pay for ships with your pvp. (And are living in an area that has more than 3 jumps per day traffic.)


I'm not going to argue with you about this, beyond saying we do fine with small gangs.

Ed: And no, not all our killmails are on BC.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.06.21 00:58:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Tobiaz
Putting one on Jita 4-4 for lulz would probably be enough to drop you below -5 in one go, so that is rather self-regulating.


I don't think you know very much about being flashy if you think that would stop LEGIONS of flashy pirates from bombing the 4/4 undock.

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.06.21 01:01:00 - [42]
 

We didn't want to use pirate implants anyways

Mya ElleTerego
Amarr
The Hull Miners Union
Posted - 2011.06.21 01:01:00 - [43]
 

will be a nice nerf to solopwnmobile motherships in lowsec.

Benri Konpaku
Posted - 2011.06.21 01:03:00 - [44]
 

What they aren't telling you is that Concord will now patrol low sec too to compensate. Laughing

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2011.06.21 01:10:00 - [45]
 

bombs in low sec = pure win :)

Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.06.21 01:11:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Frau Klaps
:excellence: in action.


the new theme is :deliver: (see fanfest), they didn't mention "in what state"

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2011.06.21 01:22:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren

I'm not going to argue with you about this, beyond saying we do fine with small gangs.

Ed: And no, not all our killmails are on BC.


Whatever floats your boat, its your subscription afterall. I mostly enjoy very small gangs too, doesnt mean I leave fleets though when we have a megablob of 10-12 savages roaming though... to each their own.

Frau Klaps
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.21 01:38:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Originally by: Frau Klaps
:excellence: in action.


the new theme is :deliver: (see fanfest), they didn't mention "in what state"


Thanks for the info. I will update my sarcasm to be more in line with current CCP failure Laughing

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.06.21 11:21:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Grey Stormshadow on 21/06/2011 11:21:58
Originally by: Hesperius
Currently on Sisi you can launch bombs and deploy warp disruption probes. No hic, no anchorable bubbles. I don't see it in the patch notes, so I wonder if this is someone messing around with what could be done, or if this is one of those things someone changed and forgot to write down.

Good thing we wont have to wait long to find out!

Video!




Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 21/06/2011 00:42:22
Yeees…

I bug reported that one almost a month ago. They had accidentally all the sec-level based "lauch" restrictions, so both bombs and interdiction probes could be used in high and lowsec. Even more fun was the fact that you could launch a bomb at a highsec station and not trigger any response, as long as you only hit the station.

The mail response they sent said that, when the fix hits TQ will depend on whether it can be part of a hotfix or if it requires a big fix (i.e. a full build release). There was a fix for it at the time though, at least according to the bugreport mail…

…the actual bug ticket, however, mentions that it couldn't be reproduced — hopefully because they did actually put that fix in. But if you can still do it on Sisi, 27 days after it was reported, 25 days after it was reportedly fixed internally, then who knows. Twisted Evil

But it was only those two launched effects — you still couldn't anchor bubbles or use an unscripted WDFG, so should it slip though, the highsec mayhem will be (every so slightly) limited. And yes, CONCORD does indeed take a dim view to people being caught in dictor bubbles.


Ok... jokes aside... What OP said and what Tippia said... are the devs aware about this, has it been fixed or is this coming to TQ today?

Probably Alt
Posted - 2011.06.21 11:50:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Grey Stormshadow
Edited by: Grey Stormshadow on 21/06/2011 11:21:58
Originally by: Hesperius
Currently on Sisi you can launch bombs and deploy warp disruption probes. No hic, no anchorable bubbles. I don't see it in the patch notes, so I wonder if this is someone messing around with what could be done, or if this is one of those things someone changed and forgot to write down.

Good thing we wont have to wait long to find out!

Video!




Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 21/06/2011 00:42:22
Yeees…

I bug reported that one almost a month ago. They had accidentally all the sec-level based "lauch" restrictions, so both bombs and interdiction probes could be used in high and lowsec. Even more fun was the fact that you could launch a bomb at a highsec station and not trigger any response, as long as you only hit the station.

The mail response they sent said that, when the fix hits TQ will depend on whether it can be part of a hotfix or if it requires a big fix (i.e. a full build release). There was a fix for it at the time though, at least according to the bugreport mail…

…the actual bug ticket, however, mentions that it couldn't be reproduced — hopefully because they did actually put that fix in. But if you can still do it on Sisi, 27 days after it was reported, 25 days after it was reportedly fixed internally, then who knows. Twisted Evil

But it was only those two launched effects — you still couldn't anchor bubbles or use an unscripted WDFG, so should it slip though, the highsec mayhem will be (every so slightly) limited. And yes, CONCORD does indeed take a dim view to people being caught in dictor bubbles.


Ok... jokes aside... What OP said and what Tippia said... are the devs aware about this, has it been fixed or is this coming to TQ today?



CCP will never publicly admit they f'ed up their code again , instead they will put in a hotfix after finishing the patching. Can you imagine the reimbursement demand when servers go live and you have people killed by bombs....well I can "our logs show nothing"

Another great example of CCP's quality assurance and testing, guess everyone is on the PS3 quality testing Dust because they are not in EVE.

Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
Posted - 2011.06.21 12:02:00 - [51]
 

on SISI now. I can't launch bombs in Rebelier. So.... fixed?

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.06.21 12:05:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Ris Dnalor
bombs in low sec = pure win :)

Not emptyquoting. Not emptyquoting at all!Twisted Evil

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.06.21 12:11:00 - [53]
 

I doubt we'll see this live, but I am totally in support of bubbles and bombs in lowsec. Twisted Evil

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.21 12:17:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Tobiaz
Putting one on Jita 4-4 for lulz would probably be enough to drop you below -5 in one go, so that is rather self-regulating.


I don't think you know very much about being flashy if you think that would stop LEGIONS of flashy pirates from bombing the 4/4 undock.


I was referring to the dictor bubble. Bombs would indeed be a different matter. It would make suicide ganking extremely easy.

Raneru
Combat and Recon
Posted - 2011.06.21 12:24:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Tobiaz
Originally by: Hesperius
Sentry guns do not shoot the bubbles.


Does scrambling a neutral with a bubble count as an criminal offense?


It counts as aggression if they try to warp in the bubble so yes.


Hesperius
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:16:00 - [56]
 

Can someone in low sec report what happened here?

Cletus Graeme
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:18:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Edited by: Liang Nuren on 21/06/2011 00:10:00
Bubbles are reported to also work in high sec now. Twisted Evil

Jita 4-4 undock grapecage in 5...4...3...2...1 Very Happy

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:49:00 - [58]
 

Bubbles and bombs in losec would be EPIC. I can't stand having to warp all over the place and deal with the stupid aggression/hidden aggression timers. Having certain classes of ships (SB/HIC/DIC) that can be flown in lo and are all but useless just stinks.

Russel Williams
Minmatar
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:18:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Soldarius
Bubbles and bombs in losec would be EPIC. I can't stand having to warp all over the place and deal with the stupid aggression/hidden aggression timers. Having certain classes of ships (SB/HIC/DIC) that can be flown in lo and are all but useless just stinks.

Confirming HICs and SBs are completely useless in low/high sec. Rolling Eyes

Abelard Nightbringer
New Foundation
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:31:00 - [60]
 

IF bombs/bubbles went live on TQ ever, you guys saying "YAY BOMBS" would be singing a different tune when absolutely everyone refuses to go to lowsec anymore. Then you'll just have your own kind to fight off, to see whos got the most bubbles and bombs. Or, as logic stands, youll all be sitting for hours on a gate with nothing to show for it, and only end up dying because the people then willing to enter lowsec will be coming well prepared.

also, Russell, do i... know you?


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