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Shooter McGavvin
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:48:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: Wearfield
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% off the price of Adidas shoes and 5% bonus to Adidas store credit per level.


Hahahahaha!

01011 101
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:48:00 - [242]
 

I've installed the patch and the client screen ship and turrets are lovely, but I think I'm losing my mind....what ship is it?!

Admiral Sabnack
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:48:00 - [243]
 

DT extended to 20? Well, I'm gonna play some APB in this case...

Nadya Lena
Twilight Federation
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:49:00 - [244]
 

Originally by: 01011 101
I've installed the patch and the client screen ship and turrets are lovely, but I think I'm losing my mind....what ship is it?!

It's the redesigned Maller, seems to be in Navy colors.

Sunbird Huy
Caldari
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:51:00 - [245]
 

Originally by: Mark MyWord
Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life.

Well, thanks for astro-physics/geology class.

If you are trying to get a PR job with CCP, you are on a good road.
What you choose to ignore is that CCP, in their drive for expansion and more customers is doing is losing a huge lot of old players that simply get worn down by the stuff done. The same players that actively or passively played a part in developing and flourishing of EVE.

Your appreciation of CCP is, even if not stated by us the less intelligent than you the oh magnificent self, shared by almost every member/subscriber in EVE community. The fact that most of us are willing to endure and last hoping and waiting for improvements is a proof of that appreciation and thanks to CCP for making EVE the best MMO around.

But they need to be more active on the real issues.

01011 101
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:51:00 - [246]
 

Originally by: Whitehaven
Originally by: Joe Space
Quote:
It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked.


I think this is an excellent change!

It hurts me pretty bad personally. I have two accounts that can each run 3 of the 4 unprobable T3s. That's a decent amount of training time and a lot of isk sunk into ships and fits that will need big adjustments. This will definitely make it more difficult for us small gang types.

Nevertheless, the change does far more good than bad. Imho, unprobable sniper BS, unprobable mission runners, and even unprobable links are bad for the game. So I welcome this change.

There is, however, one problem I foresee. Links can still be run out of POS. In my experience, the systems where gate camps are most prevalent are systems where the campers have POS. Being able to run T3 links out of POS (and, therefore, out of harms way) is a pretty big advantage.

What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. This will force the campers to run links with the same risks as the gangs that come to fight them.


I fully agree !


I agree with this as well, all ships need to be outside pos shields to be able to use their equipment, guns, drones, repair, so why not links?

syrus mac
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:51:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: Mark MyWord
I hope that all of you who complain about the code, lack of features, priority of Incarna, or ATI compatibility have never coded, or had experience sustaining PR (Public Relations), because we can let your complaints go as ignorance. If you really want all these things changed, because you tout yourselves as so important, why don't you get a job at CCP and code for them and make everyone's lives easier with your mad skills.
EVE is a hard beast to tame - that's why CCP is big, too. The best coders, designers, and directors aren't the makeup of CCP or any gaming company. The best have to deal with less-skilled people that work within their company and not just those outside of CCP, like you. Be thankful for what they give you. I'm thankful I don't have to pay $60 for every expansion. I'll admit, my Dell 390 is from 2006 and it runs everything fine, but some manufacturers do a better job than others, and it's up to the user to decide what their computer needs and budgets are.

In order to move forward, things have to get rearranged. That's how the EVE universe and the real universe move through time. If that means that old users are rearranged with new users, or users rearrange their old computer hardware with new hardware - we must move forward nonetheless.
Who knows where your atoms came from. All of life had to get their atoms from something before them - whether it be the $hit from fish or the gas from plants (or planets). It's not like we're all unique one-time creations. Our bodies shed most of itself throughout its life only to rearrange its losses with newer consumables. Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life.


You sir are mad!

01011 101
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:56:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Mark MyWord
Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life.


fyi, This message and wording = may be an alt of "Tenla Amarr"

Bl4ck Ph03n1x
Echoes of Nowhere
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:56:00 - [249]
 

Quote:
Factional Warfare NPCs now care about defending against their allies enemies.

Uh... what?
I don't get it, can someone explain me what they are talking about, what happend before and what will happen now?

Felix Shoen
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:57:00 - [250]
 

OMFG. Every patch CCP puts up i cringe before downloading. Well CCP you have outdone yourself on the Mac Client patch. Basically Mac players cannot fully open the client. This means we can't play. It gets hung up on a EULA window and you cannot get past it to continue loading the client since the window is devoid of text and the "i agree" button. Now what? Just to be even more annoying, the client hangs the machine and i have to hard reset it. Can you just for once, just once, F****** test this crap before you inflict it on customers.

Sintao
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:57:00 - [251]
 

Cmon guys, there was such a pression on station walking, now everybody splits on it. It will be evolved - those are the basis, players must adopt to the new interface - instead of a massive update and a big "how do I do" from the eve population

But still this game needs massive improvements, I always resided in highsec, would like to start 0.0 but there is little to attract me there (not that there are few) but still 0.0 needs somekind of an advert.

Please CCP - it's time to slow down with big changes - It's time to balance the game, and promote versatile gameplays, think about players who invested bilions of isk/milions of sp for skills you nerf or make them useless.

Time to think about generic missions - they haven't changed much from 2004 eh?

Server code optimisations are great BlueNet + CarbonIO - very important for war on lag, but don't forget about the essence of the game, which we players need.

Add more content please, maybe new ways of earning money?

Can't wait till the integration with DUST - its really innovative - want to see it in action... maybe also interact?

Cheers

Jefferson H Clay
Posted - 2011.06.21 13:57:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: Nadya Lena
Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent
Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do...

Regenerate asteroid belts, remove expired containers and database optimizations IIRC


Giving Tivoli a head start on snapshot generation for the daily backup as well. Yes, I know I'm making a huge ass asumption about them using expensive enterprise grade backup software, it's probably some lash up with the words TONKA and Tomytronic written on it.

Enik3
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:01:00 - [253]
 

Originally by: Mark MyWord
I hope that all of you who complain about the code, lack of features, priority of Incarna, or ATI compatibility have never coded, or had experience sustaining PR (Public Relations), because we can let your complaints go as ignorance. If you really want all these things changed, because you tout yourselves as so important, why don't you get a job at CCP and code for them and make everyone's lives easier with your mad skills.
EVE is a hard beast to tame - that's why CCP is big, too. The best coders, designers, and directors aren't the makeup of CCP or any gaming company. The best have to deal with less-skilled people that work within their company and not just those outside of CCP, like you. Be thankful for what they give you. I'm thankful I don't have to pay $60 for every expansion. I'll admit, my Dell 390 is from 2006 and it runs everything fine, but some manufacturers do a better job than others, and it's up to the user to decide what their computer needs and budgets are.

In order to move forward, things have to get rearranged. That's how the EVE universe and the real universe move through time. If that means that old users are rearranged with new users, or users rearrange their old computer hardware with new hardware - we must move forward nonetheless.
Who knows where your atoms came from. All of life had to get their atoms from something before them - whether it be the $hit from fish or the gas from plants (or planets). It's not like we're all unique one-time creations. Our bodies shed most of itself throughout its life only to rearrange its losses with newer consumables. Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life.


Good lord, you are an insufferable douc**

8ar0th
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:01:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: Felix Shoen
OMFG. Every patch CCP puts up i cringe before downloading. Well CCP you have outdone yourself on the Mac Client patch. Basically Mac players cannot fully open the client. This means we can't play. It gets hung up on a EULA window and you cannot get past it to continue loading the client since the window is devoid of text and the "i agree" button. Now what? Just to be even more annoying, the client hangs the machine and i have to hard reset it. Can you just for once, just once, F****** test this crap before you inflict it on customers.


There is also a reason they recommend not downloading the patch until they release it (as it may change, sometimes requiring a full re-install). Check the patch site, and you will see it's not listed yet.

Clementine A
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:03:00 - [255]
 

Originally by: Felix Shoen
OMFG. Every patch CCP puts up i cringe before downloading. Well CCP you have outdone yourself on the Mac Client patch. Basically Mac players cannot fully open the client. This means we can't play. It gets hung up on a EULA window and you cannot get past it to continue loading the client since the window is devoid of text and the "i agree" button. Now what? Just to be even more annoying, the client hangs the machine and i have to hard reset it. Can you just for once, just once, F****** test this crap before you inflict it on customers.


They're actually testing it right now...

Seloena
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:03:00 - [256]
 

guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?

Indorian
Navy of Xoc
The Remnant Legion
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:04:00 - [257]
 

Originally by: 8ar0th
Originally by: Felix Shoen
OMFG. Every patch CCP puts up i cringe before downloading. Well CCP you have outdone yourself on the Mac Client patch. Basically Mac players cannot fully open the client. This means we can't play. It gets hung up on a EULA window and you cannot get past it to continue loading the client since the window is devoid of text and the "i agree" button. Now what? Just to be even more annoying, the client hangs the machine and i have to hard reset it. Can you just for once, just once, F****** test this crap before you inflict it on customers.


There is also a reason they recommend not downloading the patch until they release it (as it may change, sometimes requiring a full re-install). Check the patch site, and you will see it's not listed yet.


This

Sunbird Huy
Caldari
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:09:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: Seloena
guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?


http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532151&page=6

this is the link to the page with links :D

Nankeen Heron
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:09:00 - [259]
 

Yo dawg; I heard you like patches, so I put an patch in your patch so you can QQ while you pew pew. Twisted Evil

Adrenaline Reaper
Gallente
Hard Rock Mining Co.
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:12:00 - [260]
 

Quote:
14:00 UTC

Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 21:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon.

Lee Anderson
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:14:00 - [261]
 

Originally by: Seloena
guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?

latest patch and its working (windows)

Nadya Lena
Twilight Federation
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:14:00 - [262]
 

Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper
Quote:
14:00 UTC

Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 21:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon.


In case people wonder where did that come from, it's from http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385

Maul555
Amarr
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:16:00 - [263]
 

Originally by: ludizao
Originally by: Count'Dus
Quote:
SSAO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards.

CCP, almost 50% gamers in the world using ATI cards. You are playing the fool with them. With you subscribers. Why?

THIS!!!


I multiclient on 2 machines, one ATI, and one Nvidia... What is with the ATI nerfs CCP? Please tell me this is temporary for some reason and you are working on fixing it... I honestly don't care what goes on behind the scenes as long as the game looks right and plays right... If I log on and notice glaring graphical differences with the same settings my eyeballs are going to twitch right out of my skull! Shocked

01011 101
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:16:00 - [264]
 

Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 14:20:08
Originally by: Felix Shoen
OMFG. Every patch CCP puts up i cringe before downloading. Well CCP you have outdone yourself on the Mac Client patch. Basically Mac players cannot fully open the client. This means we can't play. It gets hung up on a EULA window and you cannot get past it to continue loading the client since the window is devoid of text and the "i agree" button. Now what? Just to be even more annoying, the client hangs the machine and i have to hard reset it. Can you just for once, just once, F****** test this crap before you inflict it on customers.


i have no knowledge on running the client on a mac fyi. CCP may have tested the update patch and inferring that they don't without facts is unfair imo. If it is indeed a "missing font problem" then it is understandable that it may have been missed during testing, maybe players macs are not loaded/updated to spec?

I feel issues for computer game patches/updates on the pc and mac should be expected and remedied in due course by the releaser. However I do not fully understand why players get so angry about it. Pc's and macs are a category of computing device that vary wildly from machine to machine, in hardware, software and driver spec, unlike the xbox, ps3, etc. Compatibility issues or other issues are inherent unfortunately.

If eve is run through a thirdparty on the Mac, then this is a seperate issue.

I do feel for you, I would be upset as well, but I'm sure it will be addressed asap

It is a bit upsetting that they normally underestimate their completion times and then delay their completion. The PR issue with delays is widely voiced about. I feel it would be easier if they set a completion time that held a contingency within it. So that they meet the completion time, and even if they finish a few hours before, that they stick with the time so that players know that when they set a time that it will be stuck to. I can imagine if they completed early and reopened the servers that players who miss the reopening would complain (in reverse).

Rabble rabble rabble etc moan cry complain and all that Very Happy

edited: wanted to put another "rabble in"

LadyBreak
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:17:00 - [265]
 


Quote:

13:10 UTC

Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.




huuu, we understand, database administration and database design are nightmare activity :D
try to do .... no,no maybe too simple.

:)

Maxwellhawk
Minmatar
Silverbird Intergalactic Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:17:00 - [266]
 

Originally by: Temai
.
All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. <-- about time its annoying seeing facless people everywhere


Maybe all those avs that haven't created a new look should have given ccp a clue that it wasn't as important as they thought. I don't particularly look forward to wandering around in the station as it adds absolutely nothing to the game (besides overhead). Maybe they should have added revive tomes and pink dancing shoes so I can avoid or recover from pirates. Better yet they can take all this fluff and put it into their pockets and it will turn into pocket lint making it easier to discard.

Aemmaria
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:17:00 - [267]
 

Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi



Blah blah blah Cry me a ffs river grow up and upgrade ohterwise go back to mario bros from the 90's


You are more than welcome to send me some donation.

If you can spare something from that pocket change momma gives you, that is.

Lee Anderson
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:17:00 - [268]
 

Originally by: Nadya Lena
Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper
Quote:
14:00 UTC

Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 21:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon.


In case people wonder where did that come from, it's from http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385

migration issues CCP? i guess when a game is almost a terabyte in total, i can see why the database is being a arse.Surprised

Inslander Wessette
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:18:00 - [269]
 

ermm so how long has the down time been increased to ? indefinitely ?

Atomic-Donkeh Sunji
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:19:00 - [270]
 

Question: IS INCARNA UP YET?

When I open the client it just says the server is offline--I don't get any client updates or anything.
Please respond. I'm panicking.


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