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henry potter
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:09:00 - [1111]
 

Originally by: ashton wiler
Originally by: henry potter
Just to make sure I am not being daft - there is nothing we can download yet, right? I'm not asking about the server being up, I just have a lamish net connection and would like to get a start on downloading any local updates. If all the issues are server-side, we ought to be able to start client update wheels in motion, yes?


Page 6 in this forum has a link that will allow you to download the new patch. Took me about 40 mins and is about 745 mb download. Wink


check it out - a useful answer! ashton rocks :) thanks!

TheJediDK
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:09:00 - [1112]
 

Originally by: Durgon
Originally by: TheJediDK

Then you complain about money when all you've lost is the price of a cup of coffee.


You had me until here. 50 cents for coffee? BULL****!


To all of you whining about a 16 hour downtime: when have you EVER worked a 16 hour day? When have you deployed software that went horribly wrong? They're busting ass and we're sitting on a forum.

Trust me, this downtime sucks WAAAYYY more for them than it does for any of us.


Coffee isnt the point tho. The point is if the ammount is such a big loss for someone they shouldnt be spending money on something like a game ;) I agree with you on the long workday CCP has today. They must sleep well tonight ^^ Untill Lulzsec nukes em once TQ goes online ^^

Frankie iCoRy
Minmatar
Stir Crazy Research and Manufacturing
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1113]
 

Edited by: Frankie iCoRy on 21/06/2011 21:11:16
some of you here are so mad like this guy Laughing

http://www.pown.it/3615

Young Surian
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1114]
 


BlackFrog
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1115]
 

I'm starting to wonder if my queued 3 day skill will be enough... Very Happy

(And yeah, there will very likely be patches for the updated patches and so on.)

CCP, why do there always seem to be some unforseen problem with almost every major deployment??? You guys att CCP must be asking yourself this too aren't you?

Consortium Agent
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1116]
 

For all those addicted to Eve who *need* to play a video game before they're dead from withdrawal symptoms (which is what I must assume from reading some of these posts)... cowboy up (or cowgirl up) and go give back:

http://gamesthatgive.net/play/

OR

Go visit your favorite Eve sites and click on the advertisements to show your support. :cough:

OR

Go sit on a stick.

But for the love of God, if you're going to quit Eve over this... can I have yer sh!t? :P

ROFLMAO

DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1117]
 

If people were playing drinking games to CCP deployment delays most people would be plastered by now and I'd expect the next generation of EVE-ers to also be conceived during said games.

I am not whining, I don't mind a full day without EVE but the delay is over 4 hours now with an additional 2 more expected, ok, not abnormal... but after a 10 hour DT ? oooook I am sure as hell moving to Iceland now... if the slack for getting stuff done on time is this great I surely have a place in your company :D(expect my CV whenever tomorrow, plus minus a decade, depends on how much time it take for me to run down all the bugs in it).

To anyone who thinks I am whining: I suggest getting your hand out of your pants first because it's obvious your brain is being starved of oxygen.

Ting Mei
Gallente
Federal Institute Service
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1118]
 

Edited by: Ting Mei on 21/06/2011 21:10:39
In a way 0.35 x 300.000 accounts (don't know the real number) = 105.000

Personnaly, i understand they do not even want to give them back :p

Jitowa barylka
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1119]
 

Is there any plan for reimburse whole day lost from my pay for play, i dont mean cash i mean sp for.
If i hav to be honest CCP should let us know They need 2 days to apply incarna, and then after give us reimbursment of sp or anything for that.
Good Luck CCP

BTW:
i had hope that ill play on tuesday, but now i lose all hopes, its whirly soo hard to let players know U need 2 days fro patch ? I think no, and all of us would be more nice and happy

DGSix Kado
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1120]
 

Originally by: Helen Gaterau
If you people dont realize it is not about the 35c (and what of most plp with multiple accounts) It is about CCP telling us yet again a time and yet again screwing up. I employ people to work for me and if CCP was working for me they would be out of a job. So you brown nose people need to take your heads from out of CCP's behind because unless you work for them, sticking up for them and making light of a serious mess wont get you any where.
What has happened here is a disgrace, Blizzard did a seemless expansion that is a lot more complex than this one and did it with no downtime at all.
As has been mentioned, this happens every time and CCP should be ashamed.
10 hours @ 12 million an hour = 120 mill lost, hint hint.


Looks like you need a pacifier too stop WHINING ! Laughing

Brek'Diel Prophet
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:11:00 - [1121]
 

Originally by: Helen Gaterau
sticking up for them and making light of a serious mess wont get you any where.
What has happened here is a disgrace, Blizzard did a seemless expansion that is a lot more complex than this one and did it with no downtime at all.
As has been mentioned, this happens every time and CCP should be ashamed.
10 hours @ 12 million an hour = 120 mill lost, hint hint.


OMFG ITS A SERIOUS MESS GUYS. OUR INTERNETZ ARE BROKENZ. PLEEEZ HELP CLEAN IT UP WIZ UR BROOMZ.

Liet
PWNED Factor
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [1122]
 

Originally by: DarkestHeart
CCP,

No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own.

I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update.

I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong.

Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training.

Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so.

Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent.

DH



Lulz and lies. 8-6 years ago in eve when a patch hit you were lucky to get online within the first week of it being released for more than a couple minutes or hours at best. And if you did get online it was just as often that some massive bug obliterated whatever you were flying or locked down whatever system you were in so you could only look at a blank screen (logged in).

so to the OP of this horrible quote. stfu, 16 hours, hell 36 hours is nothing for a patch...

RotsjK
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [1123]
 

Nice, status changed from incorrect version to status unknown, is that progress??? Very Happy

JazBah
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [1124]
 

Edited by: JazBah on 21/06/2011 21:36:14
Edited by: JazBah on 21/06/2011 21:18:22
Edited by: JazBah on 21/06/2011 21:14:17
Originally by: Jasmine Oreglare
Would appreciate it if everyone stopped complaining so much so that when they come out with more information they could post it without it getting lost in a field of "woes me, I can't play my game, so my life is ruined." Create a different forum on how much your life sucks. Lets let CCP finish their job, and post new information. Thank you.

V/R
Jas


We are doing what we can with our alloted game time for this day. If we cannot shoot at each other in-game then we have to do it here... So if all you're interested in is updates, then run your nasty little pooper out of this system and go to
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385

Ashra Tesh
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [1125]
 


Originally by: DarkestHeart
CCP, ....

WHINE WHINE WHINE

.... Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent.

DH



Just like you people who are whining should learn to manage their time and do other things than sit there and cry about a video game not being online. Go clean your basement fortress and cry about how no girl will ever be down there with you, or whatever you lonely nerds do when you can't play with your INTERNET SPACESHIPS

Yulinki Atavuli
Minmatar
Caldari Investment and Security Industries
Innovia Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [1126]
 

Originally by: Helen Gaterau
10 hours @ 12 million an hour = 120 mill lost, hint hint.


your math is wrong it is 10 hours @ 120 THOUSAND = 1.2 million

Demonfuge Malevolent
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [1127]
 

Edited by: Demonfuge Malevolent on 21/06/2011 21:13:24
Hmm I've sat through the other patches and delays without complaint but I do understand some people getting agitated today because there is no service today at all.

In general I applaud the new content and I'm sure CCP are working their hardest to get the server back up and running.

That said, someone earlier made a good point that if your pizza delivery is 30 minutes late you get a free pizza. If trains are 2 hours late you get a refund. If I have no internet all day, my internet service provider refunds at least 1 day of charges.

There has been no Eve Online all day and while that's simply unfortunate and CCP are probably as disappointed as we are, there's still been no service today and if we're paying for that service there should be some form of compensation or refund.

That said I do appreciate the hard work the guys at CCP are clearly putting in and their dedication to the gaming community. In particular it's nice that they keep us reasonably regularly update.

Xaas Naskingar
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [1128]
 

CCP,

If i were you... i'd give everyone who has complained about lost time... or demanded free SP a 7 day ban...

anyone who has complained about how they pay good money only to loose a few hours gametime in exchange for 15 FREE expansions.... should receive a 14 day IP ban

and anyone with the nerve to use the excuse
Quote:
"im an IT developer"
should receive a perma ban :)

just a suggestion :)

Xiang Akachi
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [1129]
 

Ok I got a better idea for the rage spammers to argue about...

Cheese Toast or Dynasty Gundam... discussion go!

DGSix Kado
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [1130]
 

Originally by: Jitowa barylka
Is there any plan for reimburse whole day lost from my pay for play, i dont mean cash i mean sp for.
If i hav to be honest CCP should let us know They need 2 days to apply incarna, and then after give us reimbursment of sp or anything for that.
Good Luck CCP

BTW:
i had hope that ill play on tuesday, but now i lose all hopes, its whirly soo hard to let players know U need 2 days fro patch ? I think no, and all of us would be more nice and happy

You should have crowsed eye and waxed on a skill that takes more than one day to train Laughing

Ashley Kaite
Minmatar
Dynakinetics
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [1131]
 

CCP,

No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own.

I've been playing this game for around 8 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is awesome. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update, and guess what? I still dont mind.

I am absolutely thrilled that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. Thank you for the awesome game, and for working so hard to keep it fresh.

And thanks again for working so late into the night to get this build out,

-Ash

Jack Calypo
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1132]
 

Can you next time screw an other timezone and not always us Euro's

Maul555
Amarr
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1133]
 

Originally by: DarkestHeart
CCP,

No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own.

I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update.

I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong.

Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training.

Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so.

Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent.

DH


I have been playing for 8+ years and was in the Beta before that, and I couldn't read past your 3rd paragraph because of all the pointless drivel your post contains. Quit giving us vets a bad name.

Jitowa barylka
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1134]
 

And dear CCP plz give patch next time before u going to put server down, all of us will immediatelly kill download server after those HUGE update

Frederick Yassavi
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1135]
 

Originally by: Sheila Shenrose
it's not 16.5hours we lose.. it's only 16 if you consider 30minutes of regular maintenance Very Happy



My god, you're right!

That leaves us with 705 hours, not 720. Which means that he is now owed...er...well, it still rounds to 35 cents. But still! More rigor! Well played. :D


cizzah
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1136]
 

Originally by: Xiang Akachi
Ok I got a better idea for the rage spammers to argue about...

Cheese Toast or Dynasty Gundam... discussion go!

As long as it's not effing marmite...

Ting Mei
Gallente
Federal Institute Service
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1137]
 

Originally by: RotsjK
Nice, status changed from incorrect version to status unknown, is that progress??? Very Happy


No, just a tranquility reboot :)

Valandil Darkhold
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1138]
 

Originally by: DarkestHeart
CCP,

No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own.

I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update.

I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong.

Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training.

Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so.

Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent.

DH



There is a difference between a consultant and someone who actually has to do the service work. Saying you are a consultant doesn't tell me how much you actually get into the hardware and software changes on a live system. I actually do server updates and upgrades and sometimes overruns happen. We had a 12 hour overrun on a server replacement due to various problems most to do with improper information from software manufacturers. It happens. Managing a multiplayer online game is a step beyond and I've done this on the predecessors to today's multiplayer online games. Managing a cluster such as eve and processing a major set of changes such as listed here with some overruns is not unexpected. They also stated they EXPECTED not PROMISED 17:00 uptime.

Now you say you set your trainers so you can login each day to change them. You don't make use of the 24 hour queue period in which the trainer can be changed for you? This does extend your need to login past a daily period. We fought hard for that system so there's no excuses for missing a trainer within a 24 hour period of being logged in.

On a lighter note... they did not state what day at 17:00 Maybe they're just early for tomorrow :) I'm one of the first to poke fun at CCP and the things that go on regularly. I'm also one of the first to recognize how hard it is to do what they do on the scale they use. If you don't like it then stomp off and quit and leave more resources for the rest of us. *tips hat* oh dangit I have to get aurum to buy a hat to tip..... *stomps off looking for a hat*

Smight Adon
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:15:00 - [1139]
 

a few weeks into the game for me, (im a 2 month old pilot) i was sitting very intrepidly off auga 3rd cloaked up in a probe taunting an amarr station camper with vollies of witty station games insults and fukung attacks. (your fukung is weak!) i was in comm with corp and had just been talking about a small amarr fleet we had decided to roll. suddenly i get a fleet invite and ofc i accept. next thing i know, the camper is right beside me in his tengu, uncloaking and blowing me up. far from angry i laughed myself silly. and swore to kill said camper at a later date, which i managed to do later with a well placed trap with myself as bait. anyways, this particular camper has taught me just as much about piloting as any of my incredible corp mates. the point of all this is simple. eve is just ****ing awesome, if a few hours downtime ****es you off then by all means quit. im jonesing as bad as anyone, but a lil DT is a small price to pay for the daily thrill of blowing the amarr to the seven hells. plz take ur time ccp and ty again for the wonderful game. it makes my life better and i appreciate it. now feel free to flame the hell out of me sucking up, but im bored, defying gravity, and ready to blow said amarr to said seven hells.

cheers mates!

ROSS like a BOSS!

Khali Soo
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.21 21:15:00 - [1140]
 

OK I can't possibly read all 37 (ATM) pages on this thread, but - What a bunch of Whiney babypants you all are! Is this NOT the best, most intricate, immerse MMORPG in existence on the pathetic planet called EARTH???? WTF do you expect from a shining example of collaborative,State-of-the-art, bleeding-edge, technology that is EVE??
I am repeatedly drawing parallels with other paradigm shifting technology. Computer tech (on your desktop) is less than 30 years old. Consider the automobile technology +30 years. One needed to be a mechanic to keep they're Model A Ford streetworthy. Computer tech is still in it's infancy. Stop pretending it's like your TV, and get real!!
Problems happen; deal with it! And for GOD"S SAKE -- STFU!!!


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