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Prof eXe
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:13:00 - [331]
 

Originally by: 01011 101
Originally by: Vanthor
I know we all expected that it would go on longer, and i'm not one of those idiots who will be all 'OMG it's 5 secconds after they said i want my money back' but when will CCP learn that if they said 'we're gonna have the servers up by 22:00 tonight rather than 17:00.

That way when the servers go live at 21:00 all the n00bs will be like 'OMG 1 hour early, we love you CCP' rather than whining.


This is kinda what I was talking about earlier. CCP should just set a static completion time with a large contingecy built in, and just stick with it. It can be 8, 12, 24, 36 hours! Predictability is underrated imo

oh and I'm sure there will be players who complain if the servers come back up early and they were late finding out


Yes, same old problem every patch IIRC!

They could easily save so much ****e posts if they just put;

Deployment of INCARNA PATCH 1.0 is underway today and can take up to 24hrs! If we can get it up much sooner we will.
Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon.


Crest Cutty
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:13:00 - [332]
 

Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets).

I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers...

Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys.

Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!!

Helothane
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:15:00 - [333]
 

Originally by: Zi Yu San
Is it seriously being bumped way ahead to 21:00 hours? ..... Damn, that sucks.... They should open up one of the backup servers so we can atleast play while they update lol..... damn....


Your first EVE expansion? The time for the cluster to be up gets pushed back numerous times through the day. Given the scope and complexity of this one, there is a reason why the earliest any of my three accounts' skill queues complete is Friday morning.

harqy
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:16:00 - [334]
 

Originally by: Sorgenbinder
Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03
Originally by: Lee Anderson
Originally by: Seloena
guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?

latest patch and its working (windows)


Tried downloading this and got:

Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation.

Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
Unexpected end of archive

Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released.

Hey ho.


i downloaded that and installed it succesfully,
^_^ no wait for me till server is up while patching

Lee Anderson
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:17:00 - [335]
 

Originally by: Sorgenbinder
Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03
Originally by: Lee Anderson
Originally by: Seloena
guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?

latest patch and its working (windows)


Tried downloading this and got:

Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation.

Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
Unexpected end of archive

Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released.

Hey ho.

well it worked for me, Mine is fully patched and waiting >.>, well 90% patched sense i guess there releasing a patch after this patch. btw the patch your getting there is the official patch...

john roe
BearingPoint
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:17:00 - [336]
 

Originally by: Zi Yu San
Ok, here's one guys. I don't like the name Incarna. I think it's stupid. I think they should have called it "Extreme Eve 5000!". Again, just kidding. I just felt with all of the worthless whining for the sake of whining everyones doing, I might as well pick just as much of a stupid thing to whine about also. :P


what to be happy about here, mate?
that there will be even more waiting and mouse *clicks* between us and what we wonna actualy do in this game cause of thise oversized/useless eye-candy GUI of theirs?
eve is laggy/clicking-exhaustive as it is. they dont need to 'improve' that.


Cheroth Morachi
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:18:00 - [337]
 

Originally by: Crest Cutty
Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets).

I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers...

Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys.

Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!!


Yes, the one thing that you should remember is that CCP is going to FORCE you to purchase the Barbie Dream House. Part of the download is a .45 that points directly at your temple and forces you to purchase stuff...

Zi Yu San
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:18:00 - [338]
 

Originally by: Crest Cutty
Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets).

I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers...

Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys.

Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!!


It's obvious you do not grasp the big picture of this development. This is the begining of a new realm of the game, where players can use characters as well, and go onto the planets, opening the door to planetary development and combat.

FinaI Destination
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:19:00 - [339]
 

Originally by: harqy
Originally by: Sorgenbinder
Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03
Originally by: Lee Anderson
Originally by: Seloena
guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?

latest patch and its working (windows)


Tried downloading this and got:

Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation.

Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
Unexpected end of archive

Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released.

Hey ho.


i downloaded that and installed it succesfully,
^_^ no wait for me till server is up while patching



I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen.
going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec

this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch

Wait safe o/

Lee Anderson
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:19:00 - [340]
 

Originally by: harqy
Originally by: Sorgenbinder
Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03
Originally by: Lee Anderson
Originally by: Seloena
guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?

latest patch and its working (windows)


Tried downloading this and got:

Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation.

Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
Unexpected end of archive

Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released.

Hey ho.


i downloaded that and installed it succesfully,
^_^ no wait for me till server is up while patching


Don't forget there releasing a patch after the patch we installed to fix the patch bugs O_O.

marek golec
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:19:00 - [341]
 

I was looking for such a game a few years ago and I found it - and I am sure that many of those who are whining about this update will not find a better alternative in terms of such a game... I hope they will get a sense of that if they feel bored they should get back to their beloved Donkey Kong Ninento game :) Let the gorilla resume from ashes hehe :)

cdr cleaver
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:19:00 - [342]
 

Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY...Sad

Cor Synn
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:21:00 - [343]
 

01011 101
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:48:00 - [298] - Quote
Report
Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 14:52:56

Originally by: Zi Yu SanWe should be grateful that CCP continues to develop and evolve this game. It is what makes this game continue to be interesting. Unless you like things to stay the same always, in which case I am sure you just love WOW, or even better Sony's "Planetside". These are excellent choices, I admit, but I like what CCP is doing with Eve myself.



>>>I feel the same. In general, the updates made to EVE compared to WOW are greater in scope imo.<<

Its a different model. I dig the sandbox, single shard living.
Eve's expansions are free and several times a year, and do just that expand the universe and gameplay options.
Most other mmos get greedy and give you content you can blast through and then never touch again.
Just look at the last few expansions... further exploration of WH space, ability to interact with planets (with major overhauls to the interface since launch), large scale PvE incursions, now we're manifest instations with one of the most advanced character creation tools i've ever seen.

Well, what can i say. I can keep playing a game that doesn't charge me to advance it.

slarti fast
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:21:00 - [344]
 

Originally by: Helothane
Originally by: Zi Yu San
Is it seriously being bumped way ahead to 21:00 hours? ..... Damn, that sucks.... They should open up one of the backup servers so we can atleast play while they update lol..... damn....


Your first EVE expansion? The time for the cluster to be up gets pushed back numerous times through the day. Given the scope and complexity of this one, there is a reason why the earliest any of my three accounts' skill queues complete is Friday morning.


Bit optimistic I recon, went for 14 days myself, or am I just too pesimistic?

XEcuTioneRUK
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:21:00 - [345]
 

Edited by: XEcuTioneRUK on 21/06/2011 15:21:16
This is LOL!

...and I was under the impression that EVE Online was a sandbox!

Mislead perhaps?

I wanna play the game the way they said I could, not how you think I want it!

Sandbox pfff.

Clementine A
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:21:00 - [346]
 

Originally by: Crest Cutty

. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Dax Insight
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:22:00 - [347]
 

I have the patch downloaded - anyidea how to use that with a Steam install?

Gregor Raspiche
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:22:00 - [348]
 

So we are crippling the jump bridges why? This patch fixes a bunch of nitnoid stuff and adds irrelevancies like the captains quarters. Don't get me wrong I think its great that you are utilizing your resources to polish and improve the game but there is enough wrong with EVE that you all should be focusing on the broken rather than fixing stuff that is working.

Lee Anderson
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:23:00 - [349]
 

Originally by: FinaI Destination


I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen.
going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec

this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch

Wait safe o/



hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing

Darvec
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:23:00 - [350]
 

I hope they have made some serious changes to the walking round station thing.
Just been on the test server and...

1. The viewing angle on your char is all wrong, the view is centered on an area to the right of yourself, until you move, then the camera resets its self. Its not easy or fluid to move about. If it was in FPS you would be dead real quick.

2. When you change the view angle or rotate the camera perspective, its tied to some sort of camera zoom, giving the effect of bieng on a fairground ride. After two minutes of this I wanted to punch the monitor.

3. Why no object select/focus feature, so I can view the ship properly in the hanger??

gtg, people @ door......

Lorin Edehiel
Northmoor Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:25:00 - [351]
 

Originally by: Clementine A
It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs.

There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution.

Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :)

Marche ou crève.


that evol-idea applies to CCCP too, mate
not only us, clients.
if they go too far with one expansion...




01011 101
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:25:00 - [352]
 

Originally by: Zi Yu San
Originally by: Crest Cutty
Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets).

I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers...

Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys.

Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!!


It's obvious you do not grasp the big picture of this development. This is the begining of a new realm of the game, where players can use characters as well, and go onto the planets, opening the door to planetary development and combat.


I'm glad some players are unblinkered and are seeing this Cool

Herring
Caldari
Pimpology
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:26:00 - [353]
 

Originally by: Kemhotep
Quote:
All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one.


**** you.


Direct and to the point. Pretty much what I'm thinking too.

To the guy I contracted all my stuff too: you need to be able to load cq to get it LaughingLaughingLaughing


Clementine A
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:26:00 - [354]
 

Originally by: Lorin Edehiel
Originally by: Clementine A
It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs.

There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution.

Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :)

Marche ou crève.


that evol-idea applies to CCCP too, mate
not only us, clients.
if they go too far with one expansion...



... you'll leave and many will be happy to take your hangar Smile

FinaI Destination
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:27:00 - [355]
 

Originally by: Lee Anderson
Originally by: FinaI Destination


I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen.
going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec

this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch

Wait safe o/



hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351426148.png

Bishop Jace Beleren
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:28:00 - [356]
 

Originally by: Joy Mongaguarda
People asking CCP to make the game less boring.
People complaining about performance issues.
People asking CCP to make CQ disable feature because it loads graphics, has no meaning in an MMO -RPG- (that is my favorite).
People complaining other problems arent being solved because of the work in CQ.

There is one major solution for all of this:
Make CQ unavoidable, and very costy in terms of machine. Doing so, all the previous mentioned people really leave the game, and the people who bought their computer in this decade, and play MMO -RPG- because they like MMO -RPG- will be able to have a better game.

My PC has around 2.5 years in my use, and still run 4 EVE instances at ease, and I havent upgraded this PC EVER.
I agree EVE is boring lately, and it is boring because you cant really feel the excitement of being part of EVE universe because it has many "reality checks" to enable old pcs, button smashers and general whiners play it.

About time EVE as a scifi MMORPG, started to gather SciFi fans and not WoW dropouts counting "arena ratings"(killboards) and bragging knowing it all and not knowing why you cant have a draenei warlock.

A hint: EVE has became boring, among other reasons, preciselly because many of its players started ignoring the EVE universe and started making EVE "pew pew in space".



^^^^^
Best post ever in an EVE forum.

Lee Anderson
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:28:00 - [357]
 

Originally by: FinaI Destination
Originally by: Lee Anderson
Originally by: FinaI Destination


I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen.
going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec

this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch

Wait safe o/



hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351426148.png

my hat off to you good sir very nice net. using works net don't countRazz

Sheila Shenrose
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:28:00 - [358]
 

Originally by: Sorgenbinder
Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03
Originally by: Lee Anderson
Originally by: Seloena
guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?

latest patch and its working (windows)


Tried downloading this and got:

Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation.

Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
Unexpected end of archive

Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released.

Hey ho.




friend of mine had same problem with the checksum error on download. he used internet explorer (32bit) for the download. i'm using opera built-in download manager and for me it worked easily. not sure if the browser built-in download manager affects this, but who knows :).

01011 101
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:29:00 - [359]
 

Originally by: cdr cleaver
Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY...Sad


I would suspect the game will run well with hardly any difference for you compared to Nvidia users?

Some minor features arn't compatible and it is partly to do with the AMD/ATI cards isn't it?

Lorin Edehiel
Northmoor Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:30:00 - [360]
 

Originally by: Clementine A
Originally by: Lorin Edehiel
Originally by: Clementine A
It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs.

There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution.

Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :)

Marche ou crève.


that evol-idea applies to CCCP too, mate
not only us, clients.
if they go too far with one expansion...



... you'll leave and many will be happy to take your hangar Smile



not only i will leave.
many good players i knew gave up on this soft/service a long time ago (around 2007-2008).
good pilots with experience, brains and ideas.
nowadays server is full of noobs/ret.4rds.

basicly since 2008 it's down hill all the time.


Welcome to Barbies in space.



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