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El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.30 04:11:00 - [31]
 

What I noticed is that they seem to have clammed up after the emergency call for the CSM meeting, I'm a bit worried about that to be honest.

Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.30 04:21:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: El'Niaga
What I noticed is that they seem to have clammed up after the emergency call for the CSM meeting, I'm a bit worried about that to be honest.


Obviously you're not reading their blogs, reading FHC, or watching twitter. They have done the exact opposite of clamming up.

El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.30 07:21:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Lykouleon
Originally by: El'Niaga
What I noticed is that they seem to have clammed up after the emergency call for the CSM meeting, I'm a bit worried about that to be honest.


Obviously you're not reading their blogs, reading FHC, or watching twitter. They have done the exact opposite of clamming up.


I do follow them

Seleene hasn't updated his blog since the call, and has only had 4 tweets since then compared to a much higher volume in the days before the call.

Pretty much the same for all of them.

Zelda Wei
Caldari
New Horizon Trade Exchange
Posted - 2011.07.01 17:46:00 - [34]
 

More evidence CSM is a joke.


AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.01 19:07:00 - [35]
 

This CSM sucks, but they kinda ran on a platform of 'we suck but we have enough alliance members' votes so **** off kthxbye' anyway, so no surprise there.

Their buying into the CCP meme that this was all a big 'miscommunication' is where they reveal their ignorance/naiveté the most. We've had more clear, direct, transparent (if involuntary) communication from CCP in the last 2 weeks than we've had in the last 2.5 years that I've been playing. That's what precipitated the outrage.

CCP doesn't care how ****ty they make EVE or what commitments they've made in the past, they see their customers as a golden goose and will do everything and anything to squeeze every last cent out of us.

This CSM is ok with that as long as CCP works on stuff that benefits their alliances. Fair enough. But they don't speak for the players, they speak for their respective alliances.

Monique Severasse
Posted - 2011.07.01 19:18:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson

CCP doesn't care how ****ty they make EVE or what commitments they've made in the past, they see their customers as a golden goose and will do everything and anything to squeeze every last cent out of us.


CCP must not have gotten through that fable to learn the moral. Odd, seeing how short the book was.

Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.02 07:44:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Extreme
Originally by: diaufop
Edited by: diaufop on 28/06/2011 05:35:59
Originally by: Zelda Wei

zip.


No different to any other politician. I often wonder why people even bother voting for these CSMs tbh, no-one can actually point to anything any of the past 5 CSMs have "achieved" that CCP weren't going to do anyway.


"We", CSM-2 changed sovereignty for example


And you did a bangup job too. It makes me long for the days of POS warfare.

Don't suppose you want to take credit for supercaps as well while you're there. Laughing

InColdBlood
Posted - 2011.07.02 09:33:00 - [38]
 

I am not ready to give up on csm, especially white tree seems like he is serious. Communication could be better, even if its a have patience post.

I am very curious as to their ability to get thru to ccp, i dont think they will, as ccp is very convinced they found a winning formula (and they have, new content equals $$$). That they screw over player in the process matteres less. Fix the hybrids for example. What the fck am a guy to do when both rail and blasters fail. Train minnie....?

Zaiboz
Posted - 2011.07.05 15:17:00 - [39]
 

Posting in a troll thread yo!

Neqa'el Uphir
Amarr
PORTAL KOMBAT
Posted - 2011.07.12 11:01:00 - [40]
 

It takes time to carefully censor the secret NDA covered stuff and then spin the rest so it sounds ok, even calming. Aint that what CSM are trying to tell us. Mmhm..

Captin Cuddlypoops
Posted - 2011.07.14 01:08:00 - [41]
 

So run, get elected and make it mean something.

Or would that distract you from making idiotic troll threads on the forums, you stupid attention seeking dumbass.

Tuggboat
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.17 20:21:00 - [42]
 

Well if we had their full apis we could get them and their alts and just go assasinate them. You know, form another mob and track them down instead of statues. SOunds like a cool activity actually.

Zelda Wei
Caldari
New Horizon Trade Exchange
Posted - 2011.08.02 13:41:00 - [43]
 


Aryndel Vyst
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.02 19:14:00 - [44]
 

Is Zelda Wei a parachute account for TonyCandtheJets?

Zelda Wei
Caldari
New Horizon Trade Exchange
Posted - 2011.08.02 23:16:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Aryndel Vyst
Is Zelda Wei a parachute account for TonyCandtheJets?


Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Dusty Warrior
Posted - 2011.08.08 21:44:00 - [46]
 

Exactly! Thus the reason I'm suggesting this. -->

The best thing for the CSM would be for it to fade into history like ship spinning.

Afterwards, implement a periodic 1-3 questionaire to be answered by the whole community during login process.

The implementation would then allow everyone, from nub to the old vets a voice... not just the ones who have the time to troll forums.... like myself. Very Happy

Zirse
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:01:00 - [47]
 

Spamming your ideas in every thread doesn't make them any less terrible.

Most people who play this game, and most people in general, are idiots. There is a reason why direct democracy is very seldom employed. There is no way in hell it will be employed in a BUSINESS. CCP barely takes the CSM seriously and now you're expecting them to hand the reigns to the entire playerbase?

/shudder

Dusty Warrior
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:16:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Dusty Warrior on 08/08/2011 22:23:31


Actually sir... my idea isn't meant to be a diplomatic solution for a game. It's an idea that would give CCP data in which all who PAY a subscription a method in which to communicate preference ideas developers would like to implement. CSM only represents the few of the louder ones.

We are still talking about a game here aren't we, did I miss a junction somewhere?

P.S. I love the way you refer to most of us as idiots. Way to go there pal.

Zirse
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:20:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Dusty Warrior
Edited by: Dusty Warrior on 08/08/2011 22:23:31


Actually sir... my idea isn't meant to be a diplomatic solution for a game. It's an idea that would give CCP data in which all who PAY a subscription a method in which to communicate preference ideas developers would like to implement. CSM only represents the few of the louder ones.

We are still talking about a game here aren't we, did I miss a junction somewhere?

P.S. I love the way you refer to most of us as idiots. Way to go there pal.


Alright, but I think you're misinterpreting the CSM's role. Their role goes beyond the crowd sourcing they do ; they are there in part to provide feedback and input into mechanic proposals. The logistical cost of doing what you're proposing far outweighs the benefits, and I'm not even sure it's possible via surveys,

I wasn't calling anyone in particular an idiot, but there are certainly lots of them here, have you ever read these forums? Although they blend in with the trolls these days.

Dusty Warrior
Posted - 2011.08.09 00:35:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Dusty Warrior on 09/08/2011 00:40:47

Fair enough,

I don't program so I have no idea how difficult it would be to implement a survey splash screen upon log-in. I just assumed (my fault) it was as easy as putting up flash ads we see from time to time upon signing into game. Then the results could be tallied by computer and spit out the final tally. <shrugs>

Also I don't expect CCP to go solely on what that survey suggests because ultimately they are a company and need to do what is best to insure profits and security for their investors and employees.

It's just my opinion in light of several comments and actions of some of the CSM that there must be an alternative to cater to the whole and not alienate those that disagree by calling them names and telling people they don't give a rat's ass about anything but what THEY want.

We all pay to have access to the game in one form or another, therefore, we ALL should be able to have input.

Since at least one of the CSMs has made it abundantly clear he doesn't care about anyone but himself and who voted for him. I find the CSM as a moot point as it is apparent by their own admission they no longer (possibly never have) represent(d) the whole.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.08.09 05:52:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas
Originally by: Extreme
Originally by: diaufop
Edited by: diaufop on 28/06/2011 05:35:59
Originally by: Zelda Wei

zip.


No different to any other politician. I often wonder why people even bother voting for these CSMs tbh, no-one can actually point to anything any of the past 5 CSMs have "achieved" that CCP weren't going to do anyway.


"We", CSM-2 changed sovereignty for example


And you did a bangup job too. It makes me long for the days of POS warfare.

Don't suppose you want to take credit for supercaps as well while you're there. Laughing


I believe the current CSM deserves a lot of credit for that, as it happens...

Asuri Kinnes
Caldari
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2011.08.10 20:17:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Captin Cuddlypoops
So run, get elected and make it mean something.

Or would that distract you from making idiotic troll threads on the forums, you stupid attention seeking dumbass.


This, tbqh...


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