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Majuan Shuo
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.20 02:00:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 20/06/2011 02:13:26
tour·na·ment

noun /ˈtərnəmənt/  /ˈto͝or-/ 
tournaments, plural

(in a sport or game) A series of contests between a number of competitors, who compete for an overall prize

"who compete for an overall prize"

"compete"

Why even bother hosting this "tournament" if such unsportsmanlike behavior is tolerated and rewarded?

Scouting the enemy? That is fine, indeed I encourage it.

But making the experience everything but enjoyable for us? CCP shouldn't bother calling it a tournament until their are clear tournament level regulations - and there isn't a single good tournament I know of that tolerates this kind of buzzkill.

Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.20 02:26:00 - [2]
 

You seem to think you're entitled to a "~gewd fight~" at the end of the day.

However, this is EVE. You are entitled to nothing in this game. And that includes the Alliance Tournament.

Majuan Shuo
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.20 02:46:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 20/06/2011 02:49:02
Originally by: Lykouleon
this is EVE.


"compete"

The mere existence of your favorite game is not powerful enough to alter the definition of a word.

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.06.20 02:57:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Majuan Shuo
there isn't a single good tournament I know of that tolerates this kind of buzzkill.


Making the assumption that everyone reading this knows what your gnashing your teeth over is your first mistake.

Majuan Shuo
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.20 03:09:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 20/06/2011 03:12:57
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Majuan Shuo
there isn't a single good tournament I know of that tolerates this kind of buzzkill.


Making the assumption that everyone reading this knows what your gnashing your teeth over is your first mistake.


Do not derail. Also - the counterpoint to your own statement would be that you believe a collective understanding of a topic is a perquisite to being relevant. Essentially going against logic and 2000+ years of philosophy.

You can disagree as I am sure some will but no derailing please.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.20 03:25:00 - [6]
 

Not supported. You can't make rules about throwing fights. People will just make it less obvious.

If CCP wants to 'punish' Hydra/Outbreak they should hold a lottery (1 ticket per account) awarding 1000 (500 each) of the Alliance tournament IX prize hulls (or 1-run bpcs). That would also be within the rules and would discourage this sort of behavior in the future.

(I'm not saying they should do this, the whole thing was lame/stupid but not that big a deal imo. But YMMV.)

Rented
Posted - 2011.06.20 03:49:00 - [7]
 

Throwing fights isn't uncommon and is completely allowed.

Welcome to EVE, get over it.

Swynet
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.20 03:52:00 - [8]
 

Thought internet space ships was serious business. YARRRR!!

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.06.20 13:37:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Majuan Shuo
Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 20/06/2011 03:12:57
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Majuan Shuo
there isn't a single good tournament I know of that tolerates this kind of buzzkill.


Making the assumption that everyone reading this knows what your gnashing your teeth over is your first mistake.


Do not derail. Also - the counterpoint to your own statement would be that you believe a collective understanding of a topic is a perquisite to being relevant. Essentially going against logic and 2000+ years of philosophy.

You can disagree as I am sure some will but no derailing please.


I never said the topic wasn't relevant, however being as this was posted in the assembly hall and not general discussion, I assumed, perhaps mistakenly, they were looking for support of the topic at hand. Most people, at least those who aren't sheep, like to have some understanding of what they're supporting before they tick the little "Yes" box.


Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.20 13:42:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Rented
Throwing fights isn't uncommon and is completely allowed.

Completely allowed in what other sporting event, exactly? Boxing? It's usually considered highly illegal. And for good reasons.

Oh, and it's disgusting to witness, and a let-down to everyone who showed up to watch.

Supported. +1

Jakub Trokowski
Caldari
Unseen Nomads
Posted - 2011.06.20 15:31:00 - [11]
 

4/10
Not bad.

Rented
Posted - 2011.06.20 19:26:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Rented on 20/06/2011 19:27:31
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Rented
Throwing fights isn't uncommon and is completely allowed.

Completely allowed in what other sporting event, exactly? Boxing? It's usually considered highly illegal. And for good reasons.

Oh, and it's disgusting to witness, and a let-down to everyone who showed up to watch.

Supported. +1


Does this look like boxing to you? The Alliance Tournament is more for the alliances then it is for the spectators. All spying, backstabing, looting, trickery, bribery, and conspiring is completely allowed, just as it is within EVE. It's a minor miracle griefing via intentional pod killing is prohibited.

Just what part of EVE led you to believe an EVE tournament would include sportsmanship and rules of conduct? An alliance can just as easily, and legally, field 10 tech 1 frigates fitted with only smartbombs as they can decide to shoot themselves and/or self-destruct for all of the complete lack of difference that it makes.

Welcome to EVE, get over it.

Alianore
Posted - 2011.06.21 02:07:00 - [13]
 

Well that was the last tourney i will watch,,,a sham and disgraceful,,both parties should be punished/banned for more tournies,,not that i will watch them to find out,,a sad day tho Ali

Aineko Macx
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:37:00 - [14]
 

"compete"
Metagaming is a valid mechanic and therefore hydra competed beautifully.

But that's obviously a meta-level too high for some. I guess the same crowd would also support bans for jita scammers, then griefers...

Also, since it's illegal to fix matches in RL sports, they can't possibly be arranged, right?

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront

Posted - 2011.06.21 15:14:00 - [15]
 



 

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