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Dalketh
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:55:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: Taross
Originally by: Usuotas
grats on killing the tournament. Lets guess how many people will be watching the tournament next year...


I sure as hell will be.


I will as well, I mean this wasn't CCP's fault... however I certainly won't watch any match with these 'two different' teams in it again. You wasted 30,000 people's time not to mention damaging CCP's reputation when (lets face it) they really don't need that right now. I felt very sorry for the panel when they were cut too after that match was over. They did so well and then THAT right at the end.

Yahyah 'its Eve at its best (worst)'... whatever... it was sad.

Jean'Luc Pi card
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:56:00 - [122]
 

Well, what i learned in eve so far is, that one of the higher goals of this game is to **** people off. you scam them, you canflip them, you hulkageddon them, you hotdrop them and so on. but when hydra does **** off 20k internet spaceship lovers at once the hate cascade of the 'though' guys starts. gooood job hydra. all the whiners go play hello kitty online.

Fireglade
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:56:00 - [123]
 

Well this is just great....

Just been raving away about the unsportsmanship, and disrespect, and blablabla in another thread and you go ahead and do this so i have to respect you again....

Crap...

Yeo San
Neoanarchistic Society
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:56:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Don Pellegrino
We're ONE team, how hard is it to understand?

Why not letting the best PART of the team win?

D4laqueta
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:57:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Bomberlocks
I was mildly disappointed at the final, but expected something like that, given what we'd heard about Hydra and Outbreak.

BUT

CCP haven't given you your prizes yet and trolling the crap out of the forums, straight after CCP Soundwave closed the AT early, without mentioning the final means there might very well be consequences to your actions. Apologising to the disappointed players might seem like a good idea to you to avoid CCP's obvious displeasure, but they might well see it as a further provocation and act accordingly.


You know what would make this whole thing fun? If CCP paid them with the same coin and said "HA you're also scammed buddies, no prizes for you".

****z and gigglez ;p

Greniard
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:57:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Don Pellegrino
We're ONE team, how hard is it to understand?
Any players who were dualboxing in both teams? Simple yes/no would be enough for me. Smile

thoth rothschild
Method of Destruction
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:58:00 - [127]
 

I have no problem with metagaming,
i too have no problem with deals during the alliance tournament, but...

Learn from TV. Do entertain me and all the other people who stayed up late. Make all your deals behind the scenes and make it look like a real fight.

D4laqueta
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:59:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Yeo San
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
We're ONE team, how hard is it to understand?

Why not letting the best PART of the team win?


OR how about join as ONE team if you're ONE team.

So we can see the finals between TWO teams and not just ONE, like in pretty much EVERY sport or tourney or league or you name it.

Nice try, but please...

Garekell
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:00:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: Pyrosoft

There was a plan... Miscommunication caused it to fail slightly.



A 'miscommunication' my ass. A miscommunication that dragged on for 10 MINUTES???? Rolling Eyes

Karles
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:00:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Jean'Luc Pi card
Well, what i learned in eve so far is, that one of the higher goals of this game is to **** people off. you scam them, you canflip them, you hulkageddon them, you hotdrop them and so on. but when hydra does **** off 20k internet spaceship lovers at once the hate cascade of the 'though' guys starts. gooood job hydra. all the whiners go play hello kitty online.


Is this your reccomendation card for your application to Hydra? Because if you think that eve is this, you should be joining them right now. Several thousands of players do not think this is what eve is ment to be.

Bastet Aiona
Tir Capital Management Group
The Mockers AO
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:00:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: salty Milk
Originally by: Icylce
Originally by: salty Milk

so everybody they beat to get to the final counts for what?
nothing?
did you think this through?
of course not.

Seeing as they were able to rigg the final match and make it so obvious probably all bought matches??


Ask Darkside about that.

Outbreak V Darkside is THE MATCH OF AT 9.


Agreed, rematch Darkside. VS Razor for tournament winners.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:00:00 - [132]
 

Edited by: Liang Nuren on 19/06/2011 23:01:30
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
We're ONE team, how hard is it to understand?


If this were true, I would have expected you guys to simply agree to split the AT rewards down the middle and have a brawl of it. It's not like you guys don't enjoy a good fight. Razz

Ed: And no, I'm not bitter about the 50M ISK to whoever the hell I lost it to. More annoyed that you dragged Outbreak's name through the mud unnecessarily. There were so many ways to accomplish the same goal without ****ing around.

Kara Sandorn
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:01:00 - [133]
 

nevertheless, this is ****
CCP should give the 2nd prize to DarkSide.

Tech two
UK1 Zero
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:02:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Kara Sandorn
nevertheless, this is ****
CCP should give the 2nd prize to DarkSide.


why, they lost?


K'Daai
Mensa.
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:02:00 - [135]
 

Eve player always wine about everything, especially on the forums. Your apologies are either a troll attempt or genuine but either way they acomplish nothing directed at the players.

Personally I really don't care, doesn't affect me either way.

You should however apologize to CCP for making a mockery of all their hard work by transforming the finals into a circlejerk.

Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:03:00 - [136]
 

In the end you had the balls to apologize for that epic fail fight. But still.. yeah, I consider that you made it this far, and beat out a lot of other teams to get there, and I think job well done on all those previous fights. But then I think, "what were 2 teams this closely tied doing in the alliance tournament together in the first place?"

Who else could have filled that slot, instead of putting what amounted to two teams fielded by the same alliance in the tournament in the first place?

And then you've got players making calls on who is going to win the final, for a chance to win a GTX 580, and it turns out the final match was so badly fixed, any entry was equally valid as any other. Should have just voted Hydra Reloaded + Outbreak. If I'd known you guys were practically flying each others ships or dual boxing both sides, I would have.

That's what made it so sad. Good work getting there though, and I suppose the winner is truly irrelevant in cases like this. Good show; you're forgiven.

Mostly.

Smile

Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:04:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: D4laqueta
Originally by: Yeo San
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
We're ONE team, how hard is it to understand?

Why not letting the best PART of the team win?


OR how about join as ONE team if you're ONE team.

So we can see the finals between TWO teams and not just ONE, like in pretty much EVERY sport or tourney or league or you name it.

Nice try, but please...


You actually got to see TWO finals instead of one Razz

BoB and PL have won the tournament 3 times each. We, on the other hand, have managed to win both first and second place.

One team,
Two alliances,
Two A-teams.

Edenmain
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:04:00 - [138]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Edited by: Liang Nuren on 19/06/2011 23:01:30
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
We're ONE team, how hard is it to understand?


If this were true, I would have expected you guys to simply agree to split the AT rewards down the middle and have a brawl of it. It's not like you guys don't enjoy a good fight. Razz

Ed: And no, I'm not bitter about the 50M ISK to whoever the hell I lost it to. More annoyed that you dragged Outbreak's name through the mud unnecessarily. There were so many ways to accomplish the same goal without ****ing around.


Erm we did? The sleip team easily won, and as Garmon is Hydra and he engineered this we let Hydra win. The vindi's were crapper than we thought and if it had gone the other way no one would have noticed I presume?

Futar Csav0
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:04:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Don Pellegrino
We're ONE team, how hard is it to understand?


Like the viewesrs care, why not fight it properly and let the better part of the team win on the screens, if you are ONE TEAM the prices are shared anyways and would have made the masses happy too... EVE Tourney it's a show and you just ruined it and turned a away alot of ppl for next year. Good job, also you ruined the hard work EVE TV crew put in the show.

Ashley Judd
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:05:00 - [140]
 

Edited by: Ashley Judd on 19/06/2011 23:06:40
Everything we do ends in controversy. I appreciate how some viewers don't agree with the finals. The outcome wasn't exactly what we had planned. The fact that our teams' greatest source of ideas and tactics apologized for the performance says something. Here are the facts:

We love Outbreak
We love our pilots
Everyone involved worked their asses off
The above, all over again.

Pilots (Laedy being one of them) were waking up at 4 AM to come to a 3 hour practice, going to sleep the next night, and doing it again. The logistics effort involved in keeping a wormhole up and running for 10v10 tests on Singularity is simply enormous. Our opponents, being the great players that they are, made our spying job very difficult. We had dedicated pilots working around the clock to feed us intel.

For those of you players out there whining about fixes and legitimacy, I have one thing to say:

Get two teams to the finals of the same alliance tournament, then talk to me.

Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:06:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Don Pellegrino
We're ONE team, how hard is it to understand?


This.

We pulled a double win, I'm super proud of that.

We failed to entertain in the final (even though we intended to), I'm sorry and ashamed of that.

But in the end I'm really proud of what Garmon(Amber Saint/ El'Tar) and everyone working for Hydrabreak pulled off today.

thoth rothschild
Method of Destruction
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:06:00 - [142]
 

Edited by: thoth rothschild on 19/06/2011 23:06:45
Originally by: Edenmain
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Edited by: Liang Nuren on 19/06/2011 23:01:30
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
We're ONE team, how hard is it to understand?


If this were true, I would have expected you guys to simply agree to split the AT rewards down the middle and have a brawl of it. It's not like you guys don't enjoy a good fight. Razz

Ed: And no, I'm not bitter about the 50M ISK to whoever the hell I lost it to. More annoyed that you dragged Outbreak's name through the mud unnecessarily. There were so many ways to accomplish the same goal without ****ing around.


Erm we did? The sleip team easily won, and as Garmon is Hydra and he engineered this we let Hydra win. The vindi's were crapper than we thought and if it had gone the other way no one would have noticed I presume?



you finally saw the big picture why there are so many people upset currently. WE DID NOTICE IT!

BondGamer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:06:00 - [143]
 

Are you sorry enough to forfeit your prizes?

Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:09:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: BondGamer
Are you sorry enough to forfeit your prizes?


Are you serious enough to fight us for them in the tourney format? Maybe once per alliance, win both, get prizes?

Helena Russell Makanen
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:09:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: Karles
Originally by: Jean'Luc Pi card
Well, what i learned in eve so far is, that one of the higher goals of this game is to **** people off. you scam them, you canflip them, you hulkageddon them, you hotdrop them and so on. but when hydra does **** off 20k internet spaceship lovers at once the hate cascade of the 'though' guys starts. gooood job hydra. all the whiners go play hello kitty online.


Is this your reccomendation card for your application to Hydra? Because if you think that eve is this, you should be joining them right now. Several thousands of players do not think this is what eve is ment to be.


More than several thousand. Yes jerks in the game are allowed to be jerks, and they do it because at heart they ARE jerks.

Don't lump everyone else into that category or act like it's the right way to be.

Wedding Peach
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:10:00 - [146]
 

It was a lame end, I felt, but what can I do?

Just be disappointed, work it off and return to my daily dirty deeds.

Nocte Katelo
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:10:00 - [147]
 

To paraphrase the words of a female alliance mate in ts, it's sad that the effort was made to give a shout out to female Eve players at the beginning, only to have the event end in everyone rolling over, making a joke of the fight, and "letting the girl win". It really undermined the message.

Redblade
Reikoku
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:11:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Ashley Judd
Get two teams to the finals of the same alliance tournament, then talk to me.


Not enough room in the tourney, don't think the "we are as one" approach is doing you any favors here as some didn't even get one spot, you took up two spots and made a mockery of the final.

Fer DeLance
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:11:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Amber Saint
I'm really sorry guys, it wasn't what was planned, we were planning on making it a hardcore brawl and to hopefully have it be a close match, but things didn't go as planned.

When we started the tournament we agreed to make the finals be a real match because we didn't want to **** people off, we didn't achieve this, we completely ****ed up, I'm really really sorry to kil2 because I told him it's going to be a good fight.

After Hydra started taking heavy losses outbreak team decided to give us the win because they thought I deserved it, it's not their fault, we should have planned things better or gone with identical setups or something and made it close to the wire.

Again I'm very sorry to every one that watched that match, especially sorry to kil2 and the commentators and to eve tv, I really hope this doesn't effect them negatively, but I'm sure it will due to our mess up.

I did have big achievement today but it feels like it was all taken away by what happened in the finals, I've disappointed kil2 and I've dissapointed my friends, every one that watched the finals including all of you

Please forgive me


Excuse me, if i understood correctly you apologize because you failed to stage it in a better way? lol.... That's the mentality...

Tech two
UK1 Zero
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:12:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Raimo
Originally by: BondGamer
Are you sorry enough to forfeit your prizes?


Are you serious enough to fight us for them in the tourney format? Maybe once per alliance, win both, get prizes?
they were, but they went out in qualifying!


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