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Kavu
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:40:00 - [91]
 

and without throwing the final HYDRA is still in the final and still gets 2nd place??? or am i just stupid?

Taross
Caldari
Laurentson INC
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:41:00 - [92]
 

A well-played troll ending to a well-played alliance tournament from Hydra/Outbreak. I was predicting a more obvious troll ending (like 20 haulers or something) in corp chat.

I have to wonder, was that ever considered?

Joroc Senbel
Caldari
Senbel Technologies
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:42:00 - [93]
 

Either way it was a shared win anyway. I just want to know what the frig prize was.

Valzin
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:42:00 - [94]
 

What I dont understand is if you guys where going to split the rewards why didnt you just give us a real fight?

Icylce
Frost Palace
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:42:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Pyrosoft

The top 2 places were decided legitimately, both sides fought their selves to victory against some undeniably great opponents (looking at you Darkside…PL, not so much).



I find that hard to believe after seeing the finals

Tech two
UK1 Zero
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:43:00 - [96]
 

I think a lot of people are forgetting something.

Outbreak and Hydra destroyed everyone in their path, only Darkside came close to stopping one of the teams ( who had just beaten the previous AT winners ).

2 friends meet in the final. Do what you like, job already been done.

Psyentific
Caldari
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:43:00 - [97]
 

Edited by: Psyentific on 19/06/2011 22:44:10
Hydra, Outbreak, nobody should be apologizing here. From what I understand, Outbreak is a Hydra splinter alliance, and the fact that you two wound up fighting each other is a testament to not only your skill as pilots, but also to your skills as Eve Players. You won the Eve Alliance Tournament in the most Eve-like way there is.

By fighting, meta-gaming, and being better than everyone else.

I reject your apology. In fact, I applaud you.

Excellent job. Enjoy your ISK, enjoy your ~Fancy Ships~, and enjoy your medals. You earned them today.

Usuotas
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:43:00 - [98]
 

grats on killing the tournament. Lets guess how many people will be watching the tournament next year...

Uncle Fester
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:44:00 - [99]
 

Engineering a 'good' fight for the final, removing any competative instinct, shame on you.

Taross
Caldari
Laurentson INC
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:45:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Usuotas
grats on killing the tournament. Lets guess how many people will be watching the tournament next year...


I sure as hell will be.

Hitomi Fargazer
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:45:00 - [101]
 

Edited by: Hitomi Fargazer on 19/06/2011 22:46:05
Originally by: Edenmain


But when most of the training and spying takes place on SiSi, in a whole other universe from the Eve sandbox, it raises some questions about how much of anything at all it has to do with Eve.

I think teams should apply and register their participating pilots 3 months in advance, and for those 3 months the signed up pilots should be banned from SiSi: bring the secret practice bouts and the shadow games of the underworld back to New Eden, and many more people would get behind the idea.


by doing that you would basically exclude all but the major spaceholding alliances from taking part in the tournament due to the sheer cost involved... a good tournament setup that has enough setups planned to take them to the finals costs at least 20 billion in ships and hardwirings alone and that is for one time fielding them... if you want to actually train you would have to multiply that number by alot so you'd look at several hundred billion isk alone for training on tranquility

add to that training in T3 ships which would actually loose the pilots SP when blown up and you'd have maybe 4-5 alliances applying OR no training at all which would result in boring matches with **** setups

in any case every team trained on sisi (and if they have not its their own fault really)

Mr R4nd0m
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:45:00 - [102]
 

lol nice troll...kerrr ching.....as if they really give a feck

Psyentific
Caldari
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:46:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Taross
Originally by: Usuotas
grats on killing the tournament. Lets guess how many people will be watching the tournament next year...


I sure as hell will be.


As will I.

Saul Reaver
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:46:00 - [104]
 

Apology rejected. Nice troll.
1/10

D4laqueta
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:46:00 - [105]
 

Shoulda woulda coulda...

This once/year event had the worst finals ever.

I 'm not even sure i believe your apology is sincere.

Well played though, just another fake thing in this scam-ridden game.

flapie 2
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:47:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Pesadel0
I can speak for myself and myself only, hydra won and i for one wont see the next tournment , why?Because i don´t give a sh** anymore.Why should the players see some rigged matches?


Seems the general public like scams and rigged fights. Lets see what next years stream statistics have to say. Cause i, like you are kinda sick of this now, and wont watch next year. Some good matches out there this year no doubt, but seeing as its not just this years fight, but manny others that have "Rigged" or "Scammed" writen all over it for the past years.
I wont bother to look unless im sure i get to see fair fights, they way AT was intended to be in the first place.

Just want the finalists to know this is not against you in general, just against the idee as a whole.

JEK3
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:47:00 - [107]
 

"The top 2 places were decided legitimately, both sides fought their selves to victory against some undeniably great opponents"

Sorry, but I don't believe that anymore, not from people doing what you did. Enjoy your victory, but do not expect people to believe what you say anymore. For what I know, you could have bought every single fight, or maybe not, I do nott care, I'm not going to watch next year.

Cheers

Originally by: Pyrosoft
For everyone that’s unhappy about this, you have to understand that EVERYONE involved from HYDRA and Outbreak is just as (if not more) disappointed as folks here that it went down quite like this.
There was a plan, and the plan was to have an epic battle at the end with the teams who worked together to get there. Miscommunication caused it to fail slightly.

The top 2 places were decided legitimately, both sides fought their selves to victory against some undeniably great opponents (looking at you Darkside…PL, not so much).

Anyhow, 1 team won, and that team won first and second.

See all y’all next year.


Taross
Caldari
Laurentson INC
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:47:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Uncle Fester
Engineering a 'good' fight for the final, removing any competative instinct, shame on you.


Sorry, a member of an alliance of exploiters doesn't get to call "shame on you!" on anyone. Go tracking-disrupt your corpmates about it and shut up please.

lilol' me
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:48:00 - [109]
 

your being trolled idiots...

Tech two
UK1 Zero
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:48:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: D4laqueta


Well played though, just another fake thing in this scam-ridden game.


Yeah, guess what... Eve isn't all sweetness and honour. It's like real life, be tough, be smart and look after yourselves.


now quit all your tears, they were better than you all.


Psyentific
Caldari
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:48:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: D4laqueta
Shoulda woulda coulda...

This once/year event had the worst finals ever.

I 'm not even sure i believe your apology is sincere.

Well played though, just another fake thing in this scam-ridden game.


You mad? Because I think you're mad. Hydra did an excellent job of winning. If you don't want to think of the finals as good, then look at the semi-finals.

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:49:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Amber Saint

After Hydra started taking heavy losses outbreak team decided to give us the win because they thought I deserved it,


Razz
That's what a pair of breasts do to a bunch of guys in a confined environment like a jail... or eve online. Epic troll though 10/10.

Orange Faeces
The Atomik Izlamiks
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:51:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Valzin
What I dont understand is if you guys where going to split the rewards why didnt you just give us a real fight?


Because the strongest force at work in this is Garmon's ego. He wants HYDRA on top.

oF

Teala Te'Jir
Amarr
Mr. Benjamin Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:53:00 - [114]
 

Congrats to both teams. Who cares what others think of say in regards to this, this is EVE, and in EVE never expect the outcome to be as you "assumed" and that is what makes EVE - EVE.

No apology needed. Very Happy

Hornet CII
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:53:00 - [115]
 

first i sighed wasnt going to be a fight then i laughed because it was engineered so beautifully then i cryed because every one whined. silly humans. i kinda wanted to see every one on either side just micro warp out of the boundry would have been funny oh well see what happens next year.

D4laqueta
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:53:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Psyentific
Originally by: D4laqueta
Shoulda woulda coulda...

This once/year event had the worst finals ever.

I 'm not even sure i believe your apology is sincere.

Well played though, just another fake thing in this scam-ridden game.


You mad? Because I think you're mad. Hydra did an excellent job of winning. If you don't want to think of the finals as good, then look at the semi-finals.


And you're a trolling idiot i think. No i am not mad and yes i know THEY are better than me of course, LoL.
I am disappointed i didn't watch a nice final... Sportsmanship, anyone?

Excellent job? Look at the semi-finals? Christ. You're so dumb i don't even...

Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:53:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Amber Saint
I'm really sorry guys, it wasn't what was planned, we were planning on making it a hardcore brawl and to hopefully have it be a close match, but things didn't go as planned.

When we started the tournament we agreed to make the finals be a real match because we didn't want to **** people off, we didn't achieve this, we completely ****ed up, I'm really really sorry to kil2 because I told him it's going to be a good fight.

After Hydra started taking heavy losses outbreak team decided to give us the win because they thought I deserved it, it's not their fault, we should have planned things better or gone with identical setups or something and made it close to the wire.

Again I'm very sorry to every one that watched that match, especially sorry to kil2 and the commentators and to eve tv, I really hope this doesn't effect them negatively, but I'm sure it will due to our mess up.

I did have big achievement today but it feels like it was all taken away by what happened in the finals, I've disappointed kil2 and I've dissapointed my friends, every one that watched the finals including all of you

Please forgive me
I was mildly disappointed at the final, but expected something like that, given what we'd heard about Hydra and Outbreak.

BUT

CCP haven't given you your prizes yet and trolling the crap out of the forums, straight after CCP Soundwave closed the AT early, without mentioning the final means there might very well be consequences to your actions. Apologising to the disappointed players might seem like a good idea to you to avoid CCP's obvious displeasure, but they might well see it as a further provocation and act accordingly.

Karah Serrigan
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:53:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Psyentific
Originally by: D4laqueta
Shoulda woulda coulda...

This once/year event had the worst finals ever.

I 'm not even sure i believe your apology is sincere.

Well played though, just another fake thing in this scam-ridden game.


You mad? Because I think you're mad. Hydra did an excellent job of winning. If you don't want to think of the finals as good, then look at the semi-finals.


Whats wrong with being mad? Bad troll, bad.

Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:55:00 - [119]
 

We're ONE team, how hard is it to understand?

salty Milk
Posted - 2011.06.19 22:55:00 - [120]
 

Edited by: salty Milk on 19/06/2011 22:55:45
Originally by: Tech two
I think a lot of people are forgetting something.

Outbreak and Hydra destroyed everyone in their path, only Darkside came close to stopping one of the teams ( who had just beaten the previous AT winners ).

2 friends meet in the final. Do what you like, job already been done.



bravo

I have it on good authority that Gavjack Bunk who was in the cormorant verus Negative 10 trained and practised nothing for 2 months EXCEPT flying a cormorant with the specific purpose of mopping up drones.
He had to perform that role better than somebody else who also trained for it, albeit not quite as intensely.
So that he could fly in one match, and one match only, for a role that almost nobody would have noticed had kil2 not noticed, which he knew all along that was what he was doing.

Everybody in Outbreak, Hydra and all of the other quality opponents who brought the tournament EARNED their places through the kind of efforts most Eve players wouldn't even begin to understand. Even gavjack bunk who spent 5 hours a day, everyday training to smartbomb drones has not the slightest understanding of the herculean effort put in by the other Hydra members, Outbreak similarly.

Anybody with a bad word for any of the competitors technical and combat skills is wrong and will remain wrong, eternally.

Criticise the final by all means, but never criticise the skill and the effort.


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