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Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:23:00 - [361]
 

Internet is being a bit dodgy for me. Not worth risking a ship over. Gonna grab a beer, cruise over to the DVR and play all those episodes of Initial D I missed while playing EVE.

To CCP:

Good luck guys. I'd rather the servers be down, than my data get compromised. Hope things get worked out soon.

o/ Cool

Zora'e

Ethan Blacknova
Gallente
Perkele Mining Corporation
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:23:00 - [362]
 

Investigation indicates one of the following outcomes is to blame:

1] CCP are denying connections via Eutorings.
Statistically, the LulzSec attack, centred in france, was likely to exploit the Eurorings network as Eurorings is a massive provider of Net Routing/Fibreoptic connectivity/DNS Host Servers.
Because of this, blocking incoming activity from it's main source seems like a good temporary patch, but kicks us off.

2] Eurorings are denying connections to CCP.
Statistically, the LulzSec attack, centred in france, was likely to exploit the Eurorings network as Eurorings is a massive provider of Net Routing/Fibreoptic connectivity/DNS Host Servers. Eurorings, seeing this, decided to blacklist connections via it's service that end at CCP.

3] Both of the Above.

There's only two things we can do. Proxy our way in, Or wait.

Katrina Raskin
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:23:00 - [363]
 

Originally by: Soden Rah
Originally by: Katrina Raskin


Just be aware that things like that can effect your credit rating and/or get you into issues which involve the phrase "unusual behaviour".


not if you tell the company you have lost the card, please cancel and send replacement.


Huh, I thought losing a card got recorded as well, but my information is second hand, so, that works then.

Zetler
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric
The Polaris Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:24:00 - [364]
 

*.UK.eurorings.net reports: Destination net unreachable.

GX307
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:25:00 - [365]
 



8 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net unreachable




temp5768
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:25:00 - [366]
 

Edited by: temp5768 on 15/06/2011 02:28:23
Originally by: Colonel STFU
Originally by: section 21
Edited by: section 21 on 15/06/2011 02:13:35
Open a command prompt and type

netstat 87.237.38.200

I'll bet you everyone not connecting will get destination host unreachable from somewhere on the eurorings network just like the guy above me is saying.

eurorings is owned and run by KPN International Network Services. They operate a large Fiber optic network. I don't know if that blacklist is whats causing it as some of the blacklist records go back to march 2009. But this company seems to be a major part of European Backbone.




And interestingly enough my Dest Host Unreachable is the first jump out of roadrunners nyc node..



lol ya i do, I originally had the steps writen out to get the login servers ip address with netstat but I shortened it and cut the wrong parts :P
Did you perhaps mean tracert instead of netstat? Very Happy


mine was also the first hop outside of the rogers network here in Canada. ALl that means to me is that it could be a long time before it gets fixed as its really close to the atlantic backbone and therefore there might not be anther route for a little while.

SilKKZ the3rd
Caldari
Wraith.Wing
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:25:00 - [367]
 

Edited by: SilKKZ the3rd on 15/06/2011 02:27:06
Mine fails here

9 rt2-rou-1022.NL.eurorings.net [134.222.199.137] reports: Destination net u
nreachable.

Dont know why my connection is going to the netherlands. If the servers a based in London, and they do happen to use a Virgin Media Pipe I dont see why I am blocked. But anyways while I accept DDos is not a issue with CCP, it would appear more damage has been done than there letting on. I dont mind technical problems, but updates even if slight would put us all to calm. Thats one thing that gripes me about CCP is how slow they are to respond to customers rages. If my phone service goes down and I call BT to ask why I usually get an answer even if its there is a fault at exchange X and an engineer is on his way.

A simple DDos should not be causeing this amount of mahem

Ethan Blacknova
Gallente
Perkele Mining Corporation
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:26:00 - [368]
 

Originally by: Ethan Blacknova
Investigation indicates one of the following outcomes is to blame:

1] CCP are denying connections via Eutorings.
Statistically, the LulzSec attack, centred in france, was likely to exploit the Eurorings network as Eurorings is a massive provider of Net Routing/Fibreoptic connectivity/DNS Host Servers.
Because of this, blocking incoming activity from it's main source seems like a good temporary patch, but kicks us off.

2] Eurorings are denying connections to CCP.
Statistically, the LulzSec attack, centred in france, was likely to exploit the Eurorings network as Eurorings is a massive provider of Net Routing/Fibreoptic connectivity/DNS Host Servers. Eurorings, seeing this, decided to blacklist connections via it's service that end at CCP.

3] Both of the Above.

There's only two things we can do. Proxy our way in, Or wait.



Quote/Edit: Note that Eurorings is a massive network, the largest in europe, and stretches from France to the Slavics.

Alucard Shadows
Mystic Legion
Darkmatter Initiative
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:26:00 - [369]
 

Originally by: Zetler
*.UK.eurorings.net reports: Destination net unreachable.


5 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net
unreachable.

Cut off at the same point I belive

Turrell 1
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:26:00 - [370]
 

CCP please give an update on why so many players cant get in.

yarasta Armer
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:27:00 - [371]
 

Edited by: yarasta Armer on 15/06/2011 02:27:19
doesn't look like I'll be able to connect for a while, got kicked and then the same as everyone else on login screen. London UK here. thinks it's to do with the net rather than CCP

BigBob Bocephus
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:27:00 - [372]
 

Edited by: BigBob Bocephus on 15/06/2011 02:29:05
Sounds to me like they've blocked a bunch of North American IP blocks, probably because that's where the attack is coming from.

Their ISP will hold that block until the crap traffic wanes, most like...

Glad I have a long skill training...Exhumers V here I come!

Edit: nI'm east coast US...London also? hmm, maybe english-speaking botnet?

Saatori
Bears Holdings
Brave Bears' Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:27:00 - [373]
 

while (true) {
ping eveonline.com
}

The End of EVE

Idahobo
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:28:00 - [374]
 

Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong.

Well I posted this I must be connected to the internet....

Target Name: 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc
IP: 87.237.38.200
Date/Time: 6/14/2011 7:25:51 PM to 6/14/2011 7:26:10 PM

Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg Host Name / [IP]
1 12 0 0.0 9 13 10 CPE-76-178-178-1.natnow.res.rr.com [76.178.178.1]
2 12 0 0.0 7 37 12 gig5-0-0.cralid-rtr1.natnow.rr.com [65.28.216.213]
3 12 0 0.0 16 34 22 ge-2-0-0.cr0.sea20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.86]
4 11 0 0.0 34 73 40 ge-3-3-0.cr0.sjc10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.12]
5 11 0 0.0 35 75 42 ae-0-0.pr0.sjc10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.141]
6 11 0 0.0 38 127 66 sjca-s1-rou-1001.US.eurorings.net [134.222.248.37]
7 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
8 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
9 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
10 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
11 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
12 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
13 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
14 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
15 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
16 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
17 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
18 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
19 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
20 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
21 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
22 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
23 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
24 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
25 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
26 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
27 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
28 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
29 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
30 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
31 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
32 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
33 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
34 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
35 11 11 100.0 0 0 0 [-]

Destination not reached in 35 hopsSad

Turrell 1
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:28:00 - [375]
 

Luckily I set a long que before i got kicked...

Templar Knightsbane
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:29:00 - [376]
 

Edited by: Templar Knightsbane on 15/06/2011 02:31:42
im in the uk what the heck has france got to do with me?

im gettin sick of this i know this isnt particularly CCP fault, but, if they had bta security, along with patches, i might have
been able to play my fauvorite game the past fornight, in fact i've had to upgrade my memory coz of a patch, along with a grpaihcs card by the 21st June, and now i cant login coz some ****head is just spamming msg's as far as i can tell

cant u just make the systems ignore those msg's?

SilKKZ the3rd
Caldari
Wraith.Wing
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:29:00 - [377]
 

Can we have a tracert that actually works, just to prove is eurorings thats the problem?

Aeryn Cypher
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:29:00 - [378]
 

Originally by: Vala Malderran

Some may have also noticed that as of this post you cant change your password. This furthers my suspicions that our personal data to some degree has been compromised. Shocked


Maybe you're just doing it wrong. I changed mine without problem.

Ghana Rhea
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:29:00 - [379]
 

Can't login. East Coast US.

Oh....and my balls itch real bad.

Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:30:00 - [380]
 

Originally by: Katrina Raskin
Originally by: Soden Rah
Originally by: Katrina Raskin


Just be aware that things like that can effect your credit rating and/or get you into issues which involve the phrase "unusual behaviour".


not if you tell the company you have lost the card, please cancel and send replacement.


Huh, I thought losing a card got recorded as well, but my information is second hand, so, that works then.


people lose stuff all the time...
I am sure they record all kinds of stuff. but they are not going to alter your credit Rating if you lose your card...
If you lost it once a month though...

I wouldn't recommend making a habit of it, but if you're online data has spiralled out of control, and you can't even remember all the places that have your details let along be able to delete all of them (assuming they let you, and the data is actually deleted) then killing it at source, by invalidating the card works.

You might be able to just say to your credit card company that that is what you are trying to achieve.
How they would take it however is an open question.

Then again I took the step of telling my bank that I would never ever use online or phone banking services, and to put a note on my account saying that was the case, and if anyone ever tried to set up phone or internet banking on the accounts... it wasn't me.

So they know I'm weird.

Jormungandr Bastanold
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:30:00 - [381]
 

I'll do a tracert that works. Just tell me how.

Brock Nelson
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:30:00 - [382]
 

Edited by: Brock Nelson on 15/06/2011 02:30:39
Please continue the discussion in this forum thread.

Oh wait...Shocked

Ethan Blacknova
Gallente
Perkele Mining Corporation
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:31:00 - [383]
 

Originally by: Templar Knightsbane
im in the uk what the heck has france got to do with me?


It's quite possib;e that your connection is still routed to CCP via the EuroRings network. If Eurorings touches CCP, your connection may be routed through it. Thus, trouble.

SilKKZ the3rd
Caldari
Wraith.Wing
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:32:00 - [384]
 

Originally by: Jormungandr Bastanold
I'll do a tracert that works. Just tell me how.


tracert 87.237.38.200

put that into a command prompt

Luna's insight
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:32:00 - [385]
 

Any official word on why some cannot log into the servers? my friends are logged in running missions. Kinda Erked as to the fact the servers are supposedly up yet i still cannot log in.

Turrell 1
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:32:00 - [386]
 

Originally by: CCP Guard
Dear friends.

Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation.

Your data was not compromised and we are back in action.

Please go here for more details.

We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space.

Update:
Tranquility is back offline. Please see this news post for more information and we will keep you updated as soon as possible.

Update @ 01:15 UTC:
Tranquility is now dieing. An update has been published to this news post.


Fixed...

Zleon Leigh
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:32:00 - [387]
 

Since CCP decided to crowd us all in here to muffle the different aspects even though many of us had started threads long before this one...
DDOS - Do your part!

Hopefully you (EVE players) took the 6 hour downtime to let the virus checker complete its background scan of your system. No? Didn't do that?

Don't be a Zombie!!! Run Anti-virus and Trojan checking programs (and anything else legit) now and make sure you are not part of the DDOS problem. But- be very careful of where you get these programs - remember the recent Apple lesson.

Don't think it's you? - a friend found *3* Trojans on his comp today - after scanning clean yesterday.

Ethan Blacknova
Gallente
Perkele Mining Corporation
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:33:00 - [388]
 

Originally by: Turrell 1
Originally by: CCP Guard
Dear friends.

Our services were subjected to a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) at 17:00 UTC. We took everything down for the sake of caution while we conducted a full investigation.

Your data was not compromised and we are back in action.

Please go here for more details.

We thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy drifting back into space.

Update:
Tranquility is back offline. Please see this news post for more information and we will keep you updated as soon as possible.

Update @ 01:15 UTC:
Tranquility is now dying. An update has been published to this news post.


Fixed...


Fixed.

Saatori
Bears Holdings
Brave Bears' Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:33:00 - [389]
 

DDoS -> cluster shutdown
LOL and WTF?!

Maybe: truth

Gregor Tagent
Gallente
N7 Corporation
Project Unconquerable
Posted - 2011.06.15 02:33:00 - [390]
 

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\quigglebert>
C:\Users\quigglebert>tracert 87.237.38.200

Tracing route to 200.38.237.87.rev.ccp.cc [87.237.38.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.0.1]
2 31 ms 24 ms 24 ms bm0.eabse-dhcp.isp.sky.com [90.212.58.126]
3 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 10.245.166.33
4 27 ms 25 ms 26 ms te0-6-0-7.er11.thlon.ov.easynet.net [89.200.134.
223]
5 ldn-s2-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net [195.66.224.54] reports: Destination net
unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Users\quigglebert>


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