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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Federal Defense Operations
Posted - 2011.06.12 03:06:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Marcus Gideon on 12/06/2011 03:33:09
I'm sure everyone out there has been to a fast food place lately. And you've noticed how what used to be called a medium drink, is now a small. So when you make the mistake of ordering a large drink, expecting something you could hold with one hand, instead you are served a gallon of soda.

Meanwhile, here in the sci fi land of spaceships...

If you wanted to shop for an armor repper for your battleship, you'd look for a large or heavy.

If you wanted to get a capacitor battery for your cruiser, you'd look for a medium.

If you wanted a pulse laser turret for your frigate, you'd look for a small... or would you?


Turns out quite a few turrets are off scale. In that "medium" fits on frigates, "heavy" fits on cruisers, and battleship sizes are anyone's guess.


Is there a particular reason why almost every other module fits the small/medium/large scale, but we still have several modules that clash?


I'd like to see a simple naming convention "fix".

Frigates = small/light
Cruisers = medium
Battleships = large/heavy


I'm sure there are some synonyms we can toss in for good measure. But this way there won't be as much confusion over what fits on which ship.

Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.12 04:22:00 - [2]
 

Actually, they fit because the ships have powergrid/cpu to fit them. They are in fact designed for each class as per their names, but usually the smaller they are, the more pointless they are to fit. The only way to change it, is to restrict module sizes to ship classes they are intended to fit. Unfortunately that would also severely nerf some well liked fits, and make even more ships entirely useless.

Aamrr
Posted - 2011.06.13 11:33:00 - [3]
 

I'm reasonably certain that Medium Beam Lasers were not designed for cruisers. Rolling Eyes

This is a contributing factor to eve's learning curve, so you can expect people to defend it like rabid dogs in the name of "Not dumbing things down." As such, I wouldn't expect any luck with this otherwise reasonable petition.

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.06.13 13:19:00 - [4]
 

If you take away the ability to fit an Extra Large shield booster on my Maelstrom I will thump you.Wink

In all due seriousness, the names are more like guidelines. I see them as a way for new players to quickly identify modules that should work with the ship they've chosen, nothing more.

Nariya Kentaya
Coalition Of Gentlemen.
Posted - 2011.06.13 16:18:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: De'Veldrin
If you take away the ability to fit an Extra Large shield booster on my Maelstrom I will thump you.Wink

In all due seriousness, the names are more like guidelines. I see them as a way for new players to quickly identify modules that should work with the ship they've chosen, nothing more.


exactly, i mean, just because the sign says no diving in the shallow end, does taht mean if i try some wall will pop up with "can't let you do that!" written on it? i don't think so, if i wann put something over or udersized on my death-cruiser or lol-frig, i will.

Rented
Posted - 2011.06.13 19:22:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Rented on 13/06/2011 19:37:53
The amount of reading comprehension failure contained within most of the above replies is astounding.

He's talking about how strange it is that small pulse lasers are actually named 'Medium Pulse Laser I', while for every other module in the game 'Medium' means medium. Beam lasers are oddly-named the same way. There's also the same thing where medium blasters/lasers are named 'Heavy' but several large things are also named 'Heavy'. He's proposing more consistency in naming things in accordance to their size and it has nothing to do with fitting ships with oversized or undersized anything.

Seriously... can you people read? /facepalm

Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.13 23:02:00 - [7]
 

Figured he was talking about fitting requirements and module sizes. When you look on the market, you are looking under the appropriate tab, whether it's got a weapon called Heavy in it or not. Just a minor misunderstanding, but I see your point. I suppose I probably even wondered about it myself at one time.

P.S X-Large Shield Booster is intended for a BS; there just happens to be two sizes is all.. They have Capital Shield Boosters for anything larger. Razz

Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Federal Defense Operations
Posted - 2011.06.20 17:50:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Marcus Gideon on 20/06/2011 17:52:06
Originally by: Rented
He's talking about how strange it is that small pulse lasers are actually named 'Medium Pulse Laser I', while for every other module in the game 'Medium' means medium. Beam lasers are oddly-named the same way. There's also the same thing where medium blasters/lasers are named 'Heavy' but several large things are also named 'Heavy'. He's proposing more consistency in naming things in accordance to their size and it has nothing to do with fitting ships with oversized or undersized anything.

this^

I wasn't talking about restricting anything. If you feel like "convincing" a BS scale MWD onto your Interceptor, go for it!

All I'm saying is, when you search the Market for a small beam laser for your frigate, what comes up is Medium Beam Laser I.

And when you see something linked in a Contract for instance, you don't have the Market categories staring you in the face telling you what scale it's typically meant for.

So again, not talking about restricting anything. Just talking about making a Medium Beam Laser, and a Medium Armor Repairer, both Cruiser scale.


 

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