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ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Posted - 2011.06.09 02:34:00 - [1]
 

shouldn't there be some paid for corps or members who choose to leave during a war. the war dec alliance pays big money only to have targets flee. there should be some reparations paid to the war dec alliance.

Oskold Das
Posted - 2011.06.09 02:36:00 - [2]
 

Stop targeting hi-sec indy corps and maybe you'll get real targets.

Montevius Williams
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.09 02:39:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
shouldn't there be some paid for corps or members who choose to leave during a war. the war dec alliance pays big money only to have targets flee. there should be some reparations paid to the war dec alliance.


They are a pansy ass for leaving the corp, but no, they should not be penalized for doing so. Its the RISK YOU TAKE FOR WARDECCING.

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2011.06.09 02:47:00 - [4]
 

lol what a muppet Razz

Griefer tears = best tears!

First and last time you will see me mention tears...just for you.

0/10 btw

ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Posted - 2011.06.09 03:23:00 - [5]
 

they reap the rewards of the alliance till the war dec then leave. at the very least they should stay under the war dec for the remainder of the dec or pay a penatly.

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2011.06.09 03:28:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
they reap the rewards of the alliance till the war dec then leave. at the very least they should stay under the war dec for the remainder of the dec or pay a penatly.


You are for real aren't you? War decs are used mainly in high sec,because in low or null there is (in most cases)hardly a need for them. The most common thing they are used for is to grief corps that don't and can't defend themselves. You want to tax them now too? A bit unfair don't you think?

ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Posted - 2011.06.09 03:48:00 - [7]
 

sounds like someone got killed by the orphanage. not all war decs involve the orphanage so are between other alliances. the reprocussions of war decs should be felt by the members. they shouldnt be able to leave alliance and rejoin after a week or two with no reprocussions.

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2011.06.09 03:56:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 09/06/2011 03:58:29

Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
sounds like someone got killed by the orphanage. not all war decs involve the orphanage so are between other alliances. the reprocussions of war decs should be felt by the members. they shouldnt be able to leave alliance and rejoin after a week or two with no reprocussions.


I got killed by no one. Nor will I ever be on those terms. I have two chars well skilled and not connected in any way or form. If war decced I just play the other and earn my isk while the corp deccing me wastes their isk. That or I grab a couple of people to join and give them what they want if the odds aren't too bad.

But for those using it properly I gues it can be annoying yes. Like many things..the whole war dec system could be redone to work right for everyone and to eliminate the chance of being abused.

Mspaine
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.06.09 04:07:00 - [9]
 

U mad that all the smart logistics people leave corp to join a seperate unafiliated corp as soon as they get the wardec notice? ^ ^

Maybe if you were smarter - you could keep us on our toes by doing some recon before you place the wardec - and looking at previous corp history then war-deccing the placeholding corp...

oh wait we'd just form then join a different corp instead ^ ^

ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Posted - 2011.06.09 04:14:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: HeIIfire11
Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 09/06/2011 03:58:29

Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
sounds like someone got killed by the orphanage. not all war decs involve the orphanage so are between other alliances. the reprocussions of war decs should be felt by the members. they shouldnt be able to leave alliance and rejoin after a week or two with no reprocussions.


I got killed by no one. Nor will I ever be on those terms. I have two chars well skilled and not connected in any way or form. If war decced I just play the other and earn my isk while the corp deccing me wastes their isk. That or I grab a couple of people to join and give them what they want if the odds aren't too bad.

But for those using it properly I gues it can be annoying yes. Like many things..the whole war dec system could be redone to work right for everyone and to eliminate the chance of being abused.
so you are a chicken?


Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.06.09 04:16:00 - [11]
 

There shourd be massive penarties for reaving. Something invorving bamboo...

Majuan Shuo
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.09 04:17:00 - [12]
 

come down to 0.0 and ill give you a ****ing wardec.

Xina Tutor
Amarr
Black Arrows
Sev3rance
Posted - 2011.06.09 04:18:00 - [13]
 

oh boo hoo... 1/10

Mspaine
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.06.09 04:19:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
so you are a chicken?




Says an orphanage member who's only capable of killing industrials as they undock in Jita

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HeIIfire11
Posted - 2011.06.09 04:29:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 09/06/2011 03:58:29

Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
sounds like someone got killed by the orphanage. not all war decs involve the orphanage so are between other alliances. the reprocussions of war decs should be felt by the members. they shouldnt be able to leave alliance and rejoin after a week or two with no reprocussions.


I got killed by no one. Nor will I ever be on those terms. I have two chars well skilled and not connected in any way or form. If war decced I just play the other and earn my isk while the corp deccing me wastes their isk. That or I grab a couple of people to join and give them what they want if the odds aren't too bad.

But for those using it properly I gues it can be annoying yes. Like many things..the whole war dec system could be redone to work right for everyone and to eliminate the chance of being abused.
so you are a chicken?




Call it what you want really. I could say the same about you..or do you dec corps when the odds are against you? I see it really simple,I don't waste my time with people looking for cheap and easy kills. And I have set myself up to be immune to griefers in a hostile game. You call it chicken..I call it smart.

Just keep walking and look for those easy targets.Wink

ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Posted - 2011.06.09 05:42:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Majuan Shuo
come down to 0.0 and ill give you a ****ing wardec.



lol i doubt you will show me anything with your 55 kills and 56 losses. adults are talking back to your room son.

ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Posted - 2011.06.09 05:50:00 - [17]
 

so member of x corp in xx alliance says you are a noob that only camps jita. you war dec said xx alliance. corp x leaves right after war dec. that isnt right. there are reprocussions to actions in eve, that is one area that needs more. dont agree with me fine, dont like war decs fine, but if you dont see that logic you are dumb.

Jeff Severasse
Posted - 2011.06.09 06:10:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
so member of x corp in xx alliance says you are a noob that only camps jita. you war dec said xx alliance. corp x leaves right after war dec. that isnt right. there are reprocussions to actions in eve, that is one area that needs more. dont agree with me fine, dont like war decs fine, but if you dont see that logic you are dumb.


While I see your logic...once they leave you could just war-dec the individual corp now and then take the extra...what 50mil out of their lonesome hide now. And hey now its only 2mil isk so now you can war them for 25x longer!!!

ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Posted - 2011.06.09 06:15:00 - [19]
 

not if you are in a alliance. war dec a corp with alliance would cost alot. not to mention you already spent money to war dec that corp in the alliance you shouldnt have to pay again to do.


i am not even saying that the payment should go to the war dec alliance, let it go to starving babys in minmatar space, i dont care just make them pay to get out.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.06.09 06:16:00 - [20]
 

Wardec fees are not "big money". 50M ISK a week should be easy enough to cover by selling the POS modules you're picking up after bashing the POS.

And it's spelt "repercussions" but the word you're looking for is "penalty". Repercussions are unintended side effects.

Jeff Severasse
Posted - 2011.06.09 06:17:00 - [21]
 

Well I tried :)

Mspaine
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.06.09 06:28:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Mspaine on 09/06/2011 06:34:51
Edited by: Mspaine on 09/06/2011 06:28:15
Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
so member of x corp in xx alliance says you are a noob that only camps jita. you war dec said xx alliance. corp x leaves right after war dec. that isnt right. there are reprocussions to actions in eve, that is one area that needs more. dont agree with me fine, dont like war decs fine, but if you dont see that logic you are dumb.


Maybe you are dumb for not reading properly. Or do you need glasses?

Our Logistics pilots leave corp. IE - the people that do the JF runs to empire, and the ones that purely run around empire in freighters making a profit of hauling crap from A to B so it can be jumped out to 0.0

Everyone else hasnt moved an inch.

I still think you're ****y becuase the "easy" targets, the ones which have no gunslots on their ships to fight back - arnt stupid enough to stick around and let you interfere with their daily tasks.

You're more than welcome to come out to 0.0 where the rest of us are and get pewpew's - Heck you dont even need a wardec for that!

But again - you're *****ing because what you want - the easy freighter/Jf kills - the ones you're so eagerly camping Jita 4-4 for. Arnt stupid enough to stay in corp for the duration of the wardec to give you easy kills.

Refer again to grow some balls.

P.S you're tears are delicious. Rolling Eyes

p.p.s - No corps have left our alliance for the wardec. Only INDIVIDUAL logistic pilots. QQ moar.

p.p.p.s - You're QQing when you're Wardeccing 0.0 alliances - which you know - live out in 0.0. The only people running around highsec are the logistcs guy's - or newbies skilling up in prep for coming out. Perhaps you'd find some more of our pilots if you diddnt soley camp Jita.

Cosmo Raata
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2011.06.09 06:45:00 - [23]
 

Not a bad idea, but to add to the annoying game mechanics meant to protect carebears.....CCP needs to force people out of the noob corps already. 3 months, then kick them into a corp pool of some sort that can be war decced or they can go join a corp and play eve the way its supposed to be played.

Thalis Malu
Posted - 2011.06.09 07:02:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Cosmo Raata
Not a bad idea, but to add to the annoying game mechanics meant to protect carebears.....CCP needs to force people out of the noob corps already. 3 months, then kick them into a corp pool of some sort that can be war decced or they can go join a corp and play eve the way its supposed to be played.



Not everyone plays, or enjoys playing, the way you do.

Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.09 07:46:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Mars Theran on 09/06/2011 07:50:11
Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
*snip*


lol i doubt you will show me anything with your 55 kills and 56 losses. adults are talking back to your room son.


^^this is what's wrong with EVE. Taken beyond PvP to the point of bullying and harrassing people for playing the game differently, or protecting their own interests in a system where loss has real meaning.

EVE War Dec PvP boils down to this for the most part: Wardeccing party has 12 members specifically trained for PvP roles, fit for those roles, and gank-linked/boosted accordingly. Non-wardeccing party has 3 members trained for whatever they do, (maybe PvP), and maybe gang-boosted. Non-wardeccing party can fight, (and not be chicken as you say it), but they will lose ships, ISK, and the rest.

You expect and want them to fight, and when they do not you bash them, call them cowards and hang about wherever they hole up harrassing them under the auspices of a wardec.

If your prey has the intelligence to avoid a conflict they obviously cannot win and ignore your initial harrassment attempting to get them to fight, then you should respect that and move on. Here, you even harrass non-wardecced parties, proving you really are just bullying people randomly to pump up your rather inflated ego.

Your kills are not the result of skills, so you have no business feeling superior to anyone. Your kills are simply the result of focused aggression, numbers in your favor, and choosing only fights you can win with all your stacking bonuses and benefits, and a bit of practice winning. That's it.

Cosmo Raata
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2011.06.09 07:58:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Thalis Malu
Originally by: Cosmo Raata
Not a bad idea, but to add to the annoying game mechanics meant to protect carebears.....CCP needs to force people out of the noob corps already. 3 months, then kick them into a corp pool of some sort that can be war decced or they can go join a corp and play eve the way its supposed to be played.



Not everyone plays, or enjoys playing, the way you do.


And? Those that sit in noob corps and play alone aren't playing the game right anyways. If they want security they should go play WoW, where all little carebears are in a constant state of protection. Eve is a mans game, CCP needs to give the new players a chance and then teach them to walk. Besides, you realize that almost 99% of small 5-10 man corps almost never get decced anyways. Its a social game, be social or play some tetris.

Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery
Monocle Overlords
Posted - 2011.06.09 08:01:00 - [27]
 

Griefer tears are the best tears.

ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Posted - 2011.06.09 08:04:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Mars Theran
Edited by: Mars Theran on 09/06/2011 07:50:11
Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
*snip*


lol i doubt you will show me anything with your 55 kills and 56 losses. adults are talking back to your room son.


^^this is what's wrong with EVE. Taken beyond PvP to the point of bullying and harrassing people for playing the game differently, or protecting their own interests in a system where loss has real meaning.

EVE War Dec PvP boils down to this for the most part: Wardeccing party has 12 members specifically trained for PvP roles, fit for those roles, and gank-linked/boosted accordingly. Non-wardeccing party has 3 members trained for whatever they do, (maybe PvP), and maybe gang-boosted. Non-wardeccing party can fight, (and not be chicken as you say it), but they will lose ships, ISK, and the rest.

You expect and want them to fight, and when they do not you bash them, call them cowards and hang about wherever they hole up harrassing them under the auspices of a wardec.

If your prey has the intelligence to avoid a conflict they obviously cannot win and ignore your initial harrassment attempting to get them to fight, then you should respect that and move on. Here, you even harrass non-wardecced parties, proving you really are just bullying people randomly to pump up your rather inflated ego.

Your kills are not the result of skills, so you have no business feeling superior to anyone. Your kills are simply the result of focused aggression, numbers in your favor, and choosing only fights you can win with all your stacking bonuses and benefits, and a bit of practice winning. That's it.



k let me get this straight. i make a post about a idea. a guy comes into my post talking about he will show me a f-ing war dec and i am what the problem with eve. dude you are a moron. this is exactly why war decs should have reprocussions. he runs his mouth. he gets war dec. judging by your alliance you shouldnt be talking.

ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Posted - 2011.06.09 08:06:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Jasdemi
Griefer tears are the best tears.[/quote

says the alt in a noob corp. please show us on the doll where the mean griefer touched you.

Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery
Monocle Overlords
Posted - 2011.06.09 08:12:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: ThereAreNoBugsInEve
Originally by: Jasdemi
Griefer tears are the best tears.[/quote

says the alt in a noob corp. please show us on the doll where the mean griefer touched you.

I'm not an alt. I left the Red Frog Freight corp temporally, because some carebear griefer declared war on freighter pilots.

You sir are an alt, because you have NO balls to post such bull**** with your main.


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