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Navetse Sasen
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.08 13:11:00 - [121]
 

About the standings, I personally prefeer this way, as many people do, so corps that want to hire based on standings must find another way to do so.

Primarely because there are people out there who ganks other people based on standings towards one particular corp or faction. When you have members in your corp you still have the way to look how they contribute to corp standings.

What I think it is fair to do if possible is to make the same thing CCP does to certificates, make it possible you hide or show your standings as YOU wish.

Sorry, but I have a corp too, and even so I still like not to HAVE TO show info about me nor I would advocate info MUST be shared around. In EVE wars are a part of the game, and as it is, information is a important issue, and as much of it we can hide, better.

Ihazta Gosh'its
Posted - 2011.06.08 13:34:00 - [122]
 

Edited by: Ihazta Gosh''its on 08/06/2011 14:01:15
Originally by: ISquishWorms
Edited by: ISquishWorms on 08/06/2011 10:13:56
Originally by: Tonto Auri
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "repair.py", line 206, in <module>
File "updateSelf.pyc", line 94, in UpdateSelf_nt
File "updateSelf.pyc", line 21, in ReadUpdateInfo
File "repairTool\repairTools.pyc", line 250, in GetRepairInfo
File "repairTool\repairTools.pyc", line 157, in SafeUrlOpen
urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found: 'http://eveonline.com/patches/repair_info.txt'



For this problem try downloading the newer version of the repair.exe tool from:

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/client_repair/324/repair.exe
CCP advised me to give this a go and it fixed it for me.

You will need to replace the existing repair.exe tool in you eve directory which is probably located in one of the following places:

C:\Program Files\Eve
C:\Program Files(86)\Eve

Hope this helps.


I did try this, and unfortunately for me it did not help.
UPDATE:
Checkdisk & restart, somehow fixed the full install. (CCP can you include a free new computer for me in the next patch?)

Darod Zyree
Gallente
Zyree Holding
Posted - 2011.06.08 13:39:00 - [123]
 

Where is the new confirmed issues list?
- Character bio and channel MOTD editing is still broken

and

please bring back standings (corporations and factions) info on players, we need it back, leave the agents out should still be in improvement on the database.


Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.06.08 13:39:00 - [124]
 

Edited by: Rasz Lin on 08/06/2011 13:49:23
>The buy and sell buttons now have focus on the buy/sell windows.

Great, now fix it so its 100% like it was before - focus in the QUANTITY INPUT BOX, not on the buy/sell button

+ capacitor is still transparent, fix it by TURNING OFF transparency or let us control how transparent we want it to be

+ still no player standings



+ there is something wrong with mouse input, sometimes it ignores single LMB clicks, I find myself having to click again on something every 3-10 minutes. For example just now I had to click again on my Wallet LOAD button again because game ignored my first click (mouse is working fine, it only happens in eve and i play a lot of FPS).
This happens on all buttons in the UI, like warp, cargo, buy, accept

Ravadre
Stimutac
The Black Armada
Posted - 2011.06.08 13:51:00 - [125]
 

Edited by: Ravadre on 08/06/2011 13:56:14
More information that I've came to, while doing some tests on this issue of client crashing while minimalized (1/2 accounts, window/full screen):

  • It does to me only on fullscreen, that means, that when I have 2 windowed clients, and minimalize them - I never had crash. BUT: Even minimalized game client is still rendering the content, which I concluded from: GPU Temp rises to very high levels, I can hover over stacked eve clients on taskbar (windows 7) and it shows me both clients running (as they are both rendered in real time). Ergo, crashes may have been connected to rendering/not rendering some elements maybe?

  • It happened to me when I was using acc gate on mission (pirate invasion). Minimalized on full screen, 1 client only. - This is something new, happened to me only ones, and may indicate, that session change is not the only reason. I think that this is the same sort of crash as others, and not new issue, because after crash, I got this mouse cursor that is very unresponsive for like 20 seconds (like it would be lagged), Probably because something is heavily

  • After clearing cache I made like 20 jumps on full screen, 2 accounts minimalized and no crash, but I'm gonna investigate this further.


Mongo Edwards
Posted - 2011.06.08 13:59:00 - [126]
 

1) Local channels in the Minmatar/Amarr war zone seem to be lagging behind. I.e. I was sitting off gate in Tzvi cloaked up and watched the gate activate, the ship appear, and warp off before the pilot appeared in local.

- Please note it appears to be working fine in other hisec systems.

2) Brackets get turned back on every time I get a session change - really sucks when you are jumping into an already running 60 man engagement.

3) This last one has been an issue since the patch to 1.6 - Auga 8 moon 2 is 140km off its moon and the undock is pointed at it. This means instant warps will decloak you as you are now inside the moon.

I filed a petition about this two days ago and haven't heard anything back yet.

Navetse Sasen
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.08 15:03:00 - [127]
 

Edited by: Navetse Sasen on 08/06/2011 16:19:56
The issue about character standings on info goes aside with the local chat thing. There should be an option to enter or not local chat, as there should be one about showing standings or not.

Local chat join goes without saying that it is just a gankage tool not meant to exist, as serious PvP doesnt need to rely on that. So there is a delay to show players in local when they enter the system ? Great. Could please CCP think about allowing people to not join local chat at all ? It would be even better.

Player standings, well, you can ask for their limited or full API in order to check, if they refuse, simply dont accept them.
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Finally I was able to have my PC "fixed" so I can crash my client everytime I travel minimized. The "must have conditions as mentioned are:
- As already mentioned, fullscreen, but you MUST have at least one other application besides windows services running.
- Graphics card not set to override program requests.
- Not using dual monitor.
- Important: not disabling the windows protection.

The problem was informed by a third part analysis software to be a call for a function over a protected area of the memory, and doing so, intercepted by its process handler. I was already aware of that problem, forgot as I said before, and last time I mentioned, I couldnt reproduce it to get the info about it. It seems CCP either need to change the client to be bound by the protection system (Idk if doing so wont crash the winXP functionality) or advise users to disable that particular protection in Vista or 7.

This protection system was described to be a measure to prevent malicious softwares to use graphics resources as means to open backdoors in your system, by emulating a fullscreen app running embedded (like flash flv), or running stand alone minimized, and then hiding its identity from task bar and task manager (alt tab). The coutermeasure then blocks any app trying to use graphics memory I/O capabilities when embedded or minimized, supposing that no app need such access while not showing. This protection was defeated some time after it was implemented as malware developers found out that the memory protection is flexible enough to be bypassed. EVE as it isnt malware maybe caught at a crossfire by this measure only because it is not developed to "keep quiet" while minimized.

Bellasarius Baxter
Caldari
Zilog Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.08 16:12:00 - [128]
 

Edited by: Bellasarius Baxter on 08/06/2011 16:19:53
I am not sure whether this is an issue, or just me doing something wrong.

Edit: Using the Windows client on Win 7/64 bit.

Whenever I am placing extractor heads on a planet, I get a yield per hour, but after installing the program, the yield is wildly different, in some cases. This is WITHOUT changing the length of the program, or anything, the yield is just much lower when the program is running, than when in edit mode.

Anybody else having the same problem, or have a clue as to what I might be doing wrong ?


Hank Shank
Minmatar
Pan Galactic Corp
Posted - 2011.06.08 16:26:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: Navetse Sasen
EVE as it isnt malware maybe caught at a crossfire by this measure only because it is not developed to "keep quiet" while minimized.

Wow, fantastic troubleshooting. Hope some developers take note of this.

I guess the big question is, "Why did it work prior to 1.6"?

Navetse Sasen
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.08 16:28:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Hank Shank
Originally by: Navetse Sasen
EVE as it isnt malware maybe caught at a crossfire by this measure only because it is not developed to "keep quiet" while minimized.

Wow, fantastic troubleshooting. Hope some developers take note of this.

I guess the big question is, "Why did it work prior to 1.6"?


The extended use of the Carbon Technology.

Ava Stonlai
Posted - 2011.06.08 16:38:00 - [131]
 

The asset window has still reversed the sorting of items at stations. It previously had displayed the most to least per the \/ arrow just like name sort alphabetically A-Z. Items used to sort by the most to least now(UI update I think) it does the opposite.

This is horrible usability wise as looking to see what that last location has in regards to items expands it and jumps the list UP so you have to scroll up to view items AND to then collapse it. Order of operations you've just run all the way down the list and now look in greater detail, expand, as to what you have and the heading(station) jumps up and you have to scroll up to see it.

Cleared cache, cleared settings no fix since UI update.

ISquishWorms
Posted - 2011.06.08 17:15:00 - [132]
 

Edited by: ISquishWorms on 09/06/2011 01:02:38
Market Bug Discovered

Ok a friend of mine was ripped off by 30 million (currently petitioned) by this bug so I thought I would bring CCP's and other players’ attention too it by posting about it here. Hopefully CCP will look into it and fix it promptly as it could cost players millions esp. if they do not check what they are receiving in ISK is correct.

This is how to replicate it (well this is what happened to a friend anyway)

1) Docked at station check the top buyers price of an item let’s say for example Tripped Power Circuits at 74,500.15

2) Check to see how many the buyer has set up buy order for say the buyer wants 1500

3) Calculate the return of selling 1500 Tripped Power Circuits at that price 1500 x 74,500.15 = 111,750,225.00 (ignore the tax for this example it is not relevant)

4) Check how many of them you have in your items say you have 2000 of them to sell so that should leave you with 500 after selling

5) Open the Sell Window and keep it open ready to sell but don't sell immediately go make yourself a coffee or something else to pass time

6) In the time it took you to make coffee say someone else sells 300 of them to the same buyer meaning that really he now only has a buy order up for 1100 as someone has sold 300 of them to him

7) Now click to sell on you already open Sell Window what happens?

8) In the case of my friend it removed all of the tripped power circuits from their items hanger and only gave them the ISK for 1100 of them which was 81,950,165.00

The figures used above are just for the example the actual figures involved, when a friend got ripped off for 30 million differ slightly.

I can only guess why this might be happening maybe it is something to do with the Sell Window not being aware that the buyer needs less of the item than when the Sell Window was originally opened.

Either way please fix this CCP promptly.

Dorkus Americanus
The Laugh Factory
Posted - 2011.06.08 17:17:00 - [133]
 

Edited by: Dorkus Americanus on 08/06/2011 17:32:28
Edited by: Dorkus Americanus on 08/06/2011 17:19:46

I am getting continuous crashes just from warping two separate characters, on the same PC, in the same system at the same time, with no auto piloting or jumping involved. Was just trying to warp from station to a gate, and had like 7 crashes from both clients within 10 minutes. Finally made it to the gate, but crashed yet again, lol. I will clear my cache see if that helps, but don't think it will.

Also.. I do not alt Tab. I run the clients in windowed mode, then click the box up in the upper right corner to maximize the window on the desktop, leaving the task bar exposed so I only have to click on the proper task bar button to interact with the character I want.

Edit: Looks like clearing the cache might have actually worked for me. Hasn't crashed again.

Zagdul
Gallente
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.08 17:40:00 - [134]
 

People who are crashing...

In your graphics settings do you have the Resource Cache enabled?

Check out if so respond here if disabling it fixes the problem.

Right now my client crashes with mail and I'm unable to clear the cache. I'm getting a permissions error.

Bellasarius Baxter
Caldari
Zilog Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.08 17:51:00 - [135]
 

Edited by: Bellasarius Baxter on 08/06/2011 17:57:48
Originally by: Zagdul
People who are crashing...

In your graphics settings do you have the Resource Cache enabled?

Check out if so respond here if disabling it fixes the problem.

Right now my client crashes with mail and I'm unable to clear the cache. I'm getting a permissions error.


Sounds like you need to restart the PC, to release any file locks hanging from previous crashes.
Or, if your virus scanner is set to scan all files, setting it to just scan executable files (or "select file types" or some such) might fix the problem.
Edit: Spelling

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.08 18:07:00 - [136]
 

For players having issues with crashes we highly encourage you to install the client update being publish tomorrow, Thursday June 9. A News Post has been put out with information about this patch.

TLWE
Polish Lords' Confederacy
Posted - 2011.06.08 18:37:00 - [137]
 

Looking for advice.

How do I suspend account to maybe continue to play at some later time?
How do I cancel an account?
If I have canceled account can I reactivate it at some time later on?

Thanks for any hints. Been looking for some help in my account management, but I found it utterly lacking in way of information.

Usagi Tsukino
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.08 18:45:00 - [138]
 

Originally by: ISquishWorms
5) Open the Sell Window and keep it open ready to sell but don't sell immediately go make yourself a coffee or something else to pass time

6) In the time it took you to make coffee say someone else buys 300 of them from the same buyer meaning that really he now only has a buy order up for 1100 as someone has sold 300 of them to him

7) Now click to sell on you already open Sell Window what happens?

8) In the case of my friend it removed all of the tripped power circuits from their items hanger and only gave them the ISK for 1100 of them which was 81,950,165.00

...

I can only guess why this might be happening maybe it is something to do with the Sell Window not being aware that the buyer needs less of the item than when the Sell Window was originally opened.

Either way please fix this CCP promptly.

I don't think there is anything to fix there.

1)Why would you leave the sell window open like that for a long period of them, then not verify that all the items are still for sale at the same price.

2)If you are selling 1500 items, I am fairly certain if one order if for 1300, and a lower order for 1000, you will fill the 1300 first and then the remainder will go towards filling the 1000, even if they are only offering 0.01ISK where as the other guy was offering 75,000.

It's not broken, it's the market. Pay attention.

Cebraio
Posted - 2011.06.08 19:11:00 - [139]
 

Bug: Chribba's channel is empty on this screenshot. No MOTD and no chat text is showing, although there has been text before and the channel was blinking. Scrolling/minimizing or tabbing does not change anything. The window stays empty even when new messages arrive.

Screenshot

Mongo Edwards
Posted - 2011.06.08 19:20:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: Navetse Sasen
Edited by: Navetse Sasen on 08/06/2011 16:19:56
The issue about character standings on info goes aside with the local chat thing. There should be an option to enter or not local chat, as there should be one about showing standings or not.

Local chat join goes without saying that it is just a gankage tool not meant to exist, as serious PvP doesnt need to rely on that. So there is a delay to show players in local when they enter the system ? Great. Could please CCP think about allowing people to not join local chat at all ? It would be even better.

Player standings, well, you can ask for their limited or full API in order to check, if they refuse, simply dont accept them.



If it is a "feature" it needs to be documented so that players who have come to utilize local both for defensive and offensive intel will need to rework their strategies for gaining that knowledge. i.e. if this is implemented and no one tells anyone or you opt out of local you can have a huge blob camping a station and all you will see in local is a handful(if that) of people.

Darin Ahan Parmana
Posted - 2011.06.08 19:34:00 - [141]
 

Character portraits are showing partial black squares instead the background texture. Been happening more and more since the 1.6 release.

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2011.06.08 19:36:00 - [142]
 

Originally by: Cebraio
Bug: Chribba's channel is empty on this screenshot. No MOTD and no chat text is showing, although there has been text before and the channel was blinking. Scrolling/minimizing or tabbing does not change anything. The window stays empty even when new messages arrive.

Screenshot
Clearly I'm being nerfed!! Wink But srsly I hope it gets solved, **** is going down in 'Holy Veldspar' every night!!

Vernn Miller
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.08 20:07:00 - [143]
 

Quote:
During our regularly scheduled downtime at 11:00 UTC, we will be deploying a client update that will resolve the client crash some players have been reporting. We do not anticipate an extended downtime. We strongly suggest that all players, particularly those experiencing client crashes, to install this client update.
Well that`s quite nice, but how about compensation for the week long ***gotry?

Alexandar Pavlovic
Posted - 2011.06.08 20:27:00 - [144]
 

Edited by: Alexandar Pavlovic on 08/06/2011 20:27:52
Edited by: Alexandar Pavlovic on 08/06/2011 20:27:37
Anyone experiencing lack of "warp tunel" effect?
Everything were o.k. before 1.6 patch #3. After 1.6.1 still having problem.
Any solution for this problem?

Dark Shadowstar
Posted - 2011.06.08 20:55:00 - [145]
 

Edited by: Dark Shadowstar on 08/06/2011 20:55:49
Can you change the ship image when it appears after undock? It is so close now that i chipped my tooth on it as it undocked.
Please give old settings

Jared Tobin
Bloodstone Industries
B.S.I.
Posted - 2011.06.08 21:16:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Navetse Sasen
About the standings, I personally prefeer this way, as many people do, so corps that want to hire based on standings must find another way to do so.

Primarely because there are people out there who ganks other people based on standings towards one particular corp or faction. When you have members in your corp you still have the way to look how they contribute to corp standings.

What I think it is fair to do if possible is to make the same thing CCP does to certificates, make it possible you hide or show your standings as YOU wish.

Sorry, but I have a corp too, and even so I still like not to HAVE TO show info about me nor I would advocate info MUST be shared around. In EVE wars are a part of the game, and as it is, information is a important issue, and as much of it we can hide, better.


I see, respect, and partially understand your logic in wishing to hide all information, but in your case of having a corporation, do you not think that, as a CEO, YOU (of all people) should at least be able to see your own members' standings... especially to form and review a composite standing?

Currently, CEOs cannot see their own members' factional standings, hence we cannot make/view a composite list. That, I feel, is something vital for CEOs. It's only logical, even if all standings are not PUBLIC, that if you've hired a pilot "into your corporate fold", you should be allowed to at least see your corporation's standings in a composite list, as before, even through the CEO Interface.

I am not debating you, fore I can see and respect your personal desire in not wanting your information public to the entire 'Verse. However, if I'm hanging around in Caldari sovereignty space (for example), as a Caldari pilot (which we all can see in our info), perhaps with headquarters, offices, and even POS's possibly IN Caldari space, it doesn't take a rocket scientist (no pun intended) to assume you "most likely" have a corporational (if not personal) Caldari State faction standing in the positive. [shrugs]


Again, to each their own opinion on the "public standings"... stand. My concern stems from the fact that, as a CEO, the logic of not being able to access any of MY OWN CORPORATE MEMBERS' faction standings fails me if such information is hidden from the eyes of the corporation's own CEO. ("Blind leading the blind," is coming to mind as a quote from the past...)

With respectful intent,
Jared Tobin

ISquishWorms
Posted - 2011.06.08 21:23:00 - [147]
 

Edited by: ISquishWorms on 08/06/2011 21:26:53
Originally by: Usagi Tsukino


2)If you are selling 1500 items, I am fairly certain if one order if for 1300, and a lower order for 1000, you will fill the 1300 first and then the remainder will go towards filling the 1000, even if they are only offering 0.01ISK where as the other guy was offering 75,000.

It's not broken, it's the market. Pay attention.


The Sell Window was open for a while because they had to go afk to deal with some rl issues it happens. Not all of us are tied to our computers for the entire duration that we are logged in.

Ok if this is how it works I retract my statement about there being a bug and apologise. Not being someone who really dabbles in the market I did not realise that it would automatically fill the rest of the buy orders. I had thought it would just fill the buy order of the highest buyer and then leave my corp mate with any excess of that item.

However the part I do not understand then is if this is how it is supposed to work how come there is only one market transaction in the wallet for the buyer who wanted less of the item than my friend had? Something still seems a miss here. Should it not also include the transactions for the other buyers that it filled automatically, if as you are saying that is in fact what it did?

If this is not how it works, then there certainly is an issue here that needs looking at as soon as possible. I am sure and hope the logs will explain all as I said there is a petition currently open on this.

Jared Tobin
Bloodstone Industries
B.S.I.
Posted - 2011.06.08 21:41:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Cebraio
Bug: Chribba's channel is empty on this screenshot. No MOTD and no chat text is showing, although there has been text before and the channel was blinking. Scrolling/minimizing or tabbing does not change anything. The window stays empty even when new messages arrive.

Screenshot


YES!! CONFIRMED!

THAT is exactly what I'm experiencing when I posted earlier (Post #109):

"THE BIG KICKER: I set up a public channel over 1.5 years ago. It wasn't until June 6 or 7th that the window would take up 30-50 seconds of frozen time, then load up a blank chat window. I see no MOTD nor any text, however, everyone else says it's fine and they see what I type. I appear not to have any rights to change anything (which I thought changing the MOTD would reset something)... Nope, I have no rights, even though I creat4ed it and I had a fellow named operator of the list try to adjust things - also resulting with the same problem. So, I have filed a petition, but this honestly makes no sense. Something is going on since it takes 30-50 seconds just to join the channel or load the channel..."

Thank you for providing the screen capture.

Markarian Aurelius
Caldari
Bureau of Interstellar Exploration
Posted - 2011.06.08 21:42:00 - [149]
 

For some reason since the 1.6.1 patch I cannot see or hear my hybrid turrets, even when fully zoomed into my ship. I *can* however see and hear other people's rails and blasters, but never my own. I have been using 250mm Prototype I Gauss Guns. My other ships turrets, like autocannons, work normally. I've reset both my graphics and sound settings, reinstalled both sets of drivers for each, and have cleared my cache. I've even tried running a repair and a full install of Eve when repair did not resolve the issue.

Any idea on how to fix this?

Leah Solo
Posted - 2011.06.08 22:19:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Jared Tobin
Edited by: Jared Tobin on 08/06/2011 09:21:41
ORDER OF THINGS: Default ordering direction of columns is enforced. In fact, no amount of clearing/resetting cache will fix this. It's like my old bug report of "Window Amnesia" only now it's Window Content Amnesia". And I, too, set columns newest-to-oldest, but they never remain.



Uh, so glad I'm not the only one with this. Also clearing setting won't help either.

I got that bug with the initiall 1.6 patch, and it never got fixed..as reported here.

Please PLEASE fix this..annoying as hell and rly hard to keep track of things when overview constantly keeps sorting icons!


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