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Tolaskar Hardrada
Men of Providence
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:21:00 - [211]
 

Originally by: Dark Waltzer


Also another point 360 doesn't do free updates or free anything you have to pay

ccp is all about free updates



I'm pretty sure I get free updates for my Xbox games whenever I turn it on and load it up...... Not really sure what you're on about.
Also this is a major upset with it only being on the PS3. CCP is losing out on a huge market. What a shame.


Microsoft charges publishers to allow updates to go through. And expansion packs aren't free on Live.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:22:00 - [212]
 

Laughs on you, CCP.

Deciding to cooperate with Sony, after their multiple recent problems with security, while locking out the PC and Xbox communities..

I'll admit that I was gonna buy Dust, because of its EVE connections. But there's no chance in hell I'm getting a new (PS4) console, using it with a company that don't even know how to set up safe networks, and then attaching that to EVE.

But hey, I'm just bitter becuase I think PC > console for shooters, and I happen to prefer the Xbox controls in front of the lady-sized edgy non-comfortable Playstation ones. Or am I? Confused

Tolaskar Hardrada
Men of Providence
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:24:00 - [213]
 

Edited by: Tolaskar Hardrada on 07/06/2011 07:27:34
Edited by: Tolaskar Hardrada on 07/06/2011 07:27:00
Edited by: Tolaskar Hardrada on 07/06/2011 07:26:20
Edited by: Tolaskar Hardrada on 07/06/2011 07:25:44
Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Originally by: Mallikanth
Edited by: Mallikanth on 07/06/2011 07:06:38
Sounds like it could be fun for PS3 owners.
A few q's if I may...

How about different planetary environments - lava, water planets etc?
Different gravity?
How will the Mercs get their jobs?
Will they always work for Capsuleers?
Own any assets of their own?
How will eve players be able to interact with the ground forces, other than just hiring them in the first place(Planetary strikes etc)?

Shame I just bought an Xbox. Laughing



These questions are going to be covered in the future dev blogs leading up to the beta and launch, so stay tuned and make sure to check the DUST website for updates.



Wait....

In either one of the newest dev blogs or in the release statement it was said that Dust 514 players are able to actually join EVE Online corporations and vice versa.

So does that mean a Dust 514 player can create the structures on the planets, and build an empire starting from Dust 514's side of things alongside the mainstream line of thinking of EVE Online player's starting the shindig?

Edit: And instead of double posting I'll just edit and say the person who posted above me is just another "totally not informed on the actual subject matter" nimrod.

PS4 isn't even slated to be officially announced until 2014 at the latest, people, seriously stfu about it...

Finally regarding the whole security mess; PENTAGON.

GiveYourStuff
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:26:00 - [214]
 

Whether on PS3 or XBOX, not interested.
PC instead...


ChromeStriker
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:27:00 - [215]
 

Im Crying inside for lack of xbox Sad may make a habit of just bombing random planets now just to **** off playstation plays

mkint
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:34:00 - [216]
 

Blog formula:

1) New product will be sold to the idiots who've already sold their souls to an irrelevant corporate monster, and said product will thus be irrelevant
2) blame it on the players
3) subtly suggest that the promises of "this can safely be ignored" was a flat out lie, and the new promise is "you will be royally screwed by this"
4) leave breadcrumbs so players who don't abandon the entire CCP franchise altogether can slowly piece together how royally screwed they really are.

While reading this blog I felt no emotion whatsoever. I felt absolutely zero excitement. I didn't really feel any dread either. I just felt that EVE now has an expiration date, and that it's a good thing.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:40:00 - [217]
 

****ING AWESOME

Tolaskar Hardrada
Men of Providence
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:42:00 - [218]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie
****ING AWESOME


THAT'S THE KIND OF ENTHUSIASM CCP WANTS TO SEE OUT OF ALL OF THEIR RECRUITS!!!

Did I say recruits...I meant customers >_>

XD j/k

D13Death
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:44:00 - [219]
 

WOW! this suxx
exclusive? r u people dumb?
i was excited about the project.
the thing u guyz said.: it will be multi-platform!
how do u wish to connect players if u r not bringing it out on all consoles.
wow! i had trust in ccp, but now they just wanted the extra pile of cash from sony.
the thing u do now, is force players from eve to buy a ps3 to secure their money and domains in eve itself. its stupid dumb, and this will cost u all players who own an xbox & ps3 wow that is such a dumb move, how many players u know who own a ps3 who play an mmo?? about 0.0001% ?
u told us this would be no competition, u told us that if u already had a console u woudnt have to buy a new one, orbital cannon ?? wth, u realise this entire thing will blow up in ur face.
still a great fan & player of eve, but wow ! this is the biggest disapointment from ccp ever!
NEVER again,tell players that they can ALL, play it.
1 Universe? nope just exclusive
and yes; i was madd :@

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:50:00 - [220]
 

Edited by: Ciar Meara on 07/06/2011 07:59:46


I like it, been looking for a good reason to buy a playstation anyway.
Apart from the gaming it is an nice media platform.

Although the security issues are worrying I'd guess that sony recently invested a huge amount of money to make sure this stuff won't happen again, otherwise they'd be finished.

Cross platform seemed to me to be a pipedream, as far as I know XBOX is very restrictive about this. All things considered PS3 is a logical choice.

I look foward to the interaction of rifles versus dreadnaughts. I love the fact that they are writing chronicles for this also!

QUESTION: Will there be an eve themed ps3 package for sale?

Tolaskar Hardrada
Men of Providence
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:54:00 - [221]
 

Originally by: D13Death
Ima ******!


The 3rd grade would like their spelling and grammar back.

Microsoft turned CCP down, not the other way around. Seriously, you people are starting to make me sound like a CCP fanboy having to point out who is actually at fault.

Daisy Blossom
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:56:00 - [222]
 

Aaaaand the failure to listen to the community grows deeper. I would have purchased, was excited to purchase, but now will not.

Seriously, do you even know your market, CCP?

Ron Bacardi
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:58:00 - [223]
 

Looking forward to it! YARRRR!!

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:02:00 - [224]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Pharon Reichter
So.... why did you do it ? why PS3 only ?


Two reasons: we found the PS3 to be MMO-friendly, but from a game design perspective there's a whole lot of very wonderful things the console brings to the table. While we can't entirely discuss this at this particular time, we'll be speaking more about it during the week during the myriad interviews we are conducting this week at E3.


That comment gives alot of answers, but there's one still out there.

* Dust is a separate release and the EVE-Online players are irrelevant in this case, the game is for new/other players. EVE players might be insulted but it's reasonable to expand like this for a gaming company, so far np.

* We won't answer any question on why PS3 only now, because we will give all answers in interviews instead. This is common practice for CCP, they have released new info to Tentonhammer and similar before they release it to the EVE players. Media > players, that too tho, is somewhat reasonable, albeit insulting again to the EVE playerbase.

* Collaboration with Sony. All the networking issues Sony had is fairly recent, I bet CCP is not very happy about the timing of releasing Dust is Playstation only, but the restriction to this one console must've been in the works for some time. But even tho I really dislike the PS3 (purely based on their ****ty handcontrols tbh), and I been an Xbox player since the release, me/others have to admit it makes sense for CCP to "lock in" on one console. Microsoft demands alot of unreasonable **** as well.

* Restricting to a single console, not even a PC version? This, is really what I can't understand. All of the above is annoying/sad/unfortunate. But this? Is completely unreasonable. Even when the game is restricted to a single console, it could still have a PC version (Halo anyone? Many other games like that). Not wanting PC players to dominate console players in the game? That'd be an issue, since this is all in one world. But on the other hand, PC FPS usually lives alot longer than console FPS.. especially with a RPG element thrown into it.

The first couple of points I can understand. Annoying maybe, perhaps insulting to us who play EVE, but there's some logic and reasoning behind it (that at least I can buy). However, the final point, I just can't, and I would really love to know why CCP decided against making a PC version of Dust.

Morpheus Mishima
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:04:00 - [225]
 

CCP: You say the battles will be meaningful because of the cooperation with EVE players. Yet you also state that the games will not be dependent of each other? What incentive do we have for buying and playing Dust when its not really necessary or relevant to the game-play of EVE?

Do you realize that at least 70% of the player-base for Dust will be EVE players? Do you also realize the average age of your customers? Do you understand when I say that they are either not familiar with FPS games at all or have been brought up with PC-gaming as their main experience?
Will Dust be playable with a mouse/keyboard on the PS3?

Do you also understand that if this flops and doesn't bring in a lot of new customers for you, you have basically gone back on your old promise not to charge for expansions? Which is what you are doing with this, in all fairness.

Connie Focal
The Red Circle Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:09:00 - [226]
 

Edited by: Connie Focal on 07/06/2011 08:09:14
I think a lot of people may be missing a key word on the announcement.

Quote:
launching exclusively on PlayStation 3


Unless they've then said elsewhere that it will forever be PS3 only, in which case ignore me.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:12:00 - [227]
 

Edited by: Gnulpie on 07/06/2011 08:14:57
Some gameplay questions and how that EVE/DUST-Link will work.

  • Is there a single market for both EVE and DUST players?

  • Can EVE players sell items to DUST players? Can DUST players sell items to EVE players?

  • I read that DUST players will be able to use AURUM for their microtransactions. Are these AUR in any way connected to the EVE-Incarna AUR (besides sharing the same name)? If so, are those AUR tradeable between EVE and DUST?

  • Can we please have some more information on what DUST players can do with/to the EVE Universe? And vice versa?

Thank you!

This has the potential to be extremely awesome. And people screaming here, think. Via DUST our beloved EVE is promoted to quite some more folks, maybe some of them join EVE, so that is already a good side effect right now.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:20:00 - [228]
 

Why are you guys ignoring the fact that we as eve players are going to get new gameplay out of this as well?

It's going to be a lot of fun being a weapons dealer and so on. I can't wait to see what kinda of crazy stuff we can from space to manipulate the Dust game to our benefit.

Medidranda Livoga
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:22:00 - [229]
 

Edited by: Medidranda Livoga on 07/06/2011 08:27:02
Edited by: Medidranda Livoga on 07/06/2011 08:25:30
One thing is for sure: Many people will set up their PS3 with keyboard / mouse combos (hack) and kick the snot out of controller players... Twisted Evil

But honestly, currently PS network is in such state that I would not touch it with a long stick. I wonder if Sony manages to finally secure themselves by 2012?

Xylorn Hasher
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:24:00 - [230]
 

Edited by: Xylorn Hasher on 07/06/2011 08:24:47
I don't understand why are you yapping so much about that Dust will be only for PS3 console.
A brand new PS3 is only 400$ that's far less than my GF is spending for her perfumes (using my money of course ugh).

I'll buy PS3 if Dust will be worth it.
Go to work guys/gals you will earn that 400 bucks easly and stop whinning.

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:24:00 - [231]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie
Edited by: Gnulpie on 07/06/2011 08:14:57
Some gameplay questions and how that EVE/DUST-Link will work.

  • Is there a single market for both EVE and DUST players?

  • Can EVE players sell items to DUST players? Can DUST players sell items to EVE players?

  • I read that DUST players will be able to use AURUM for their microtransactions. Are these AUR in any way connected to the EVE-Incarna AUR (besides sharing the same name)? If so, are those AUR tradeable between EVE and DUST?

  • Can we please have some more information on what DUST players can do with/to the EVE Universe? And vice versa?

Thank you!

This has the potential to be extremely awesome. And people screaming here, think. Via DUST our beloved EVE is promoted to quite some more folks, maybe some of them join EVE, so that is already a good side effect right now.


There will be two separate markets; as for the rest of the questions, they will be answered in the future DUST 514 dev blogs on the official website.

Xeldrak
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:25:00 - [232]
 

Edited by: Xeldrak on 07/06/2011 08:30:14
Quite a disappointment for me too.

I'm a big FPS-Fan, was really exited about Dust and want to play it. But a Shooter on a Console? No way...I want my mouse+Keyboard..

Sad day for me - but hey: MW3, BF3 - here I come...

CCP: There goes your money...

sg1jack
Caldari
The Omega Particle
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:26:00 - [233]
 

So Eve online is a pc game, your captive audience for Dust are pc gamers, yet you thought it would be a good idea to make it exclusive to PS3?

Jesus guys what you been smoking? is a badly trained chimp making decisions in CCP?

Poor show going exclusive as I would have bought it being an Eve player.

Tolaskar Hardrada
Men of Providence
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:28:00 - [234]
 

Originally by: Medidranda Livoga
Edited by: Medidranda Livoga on 07/06/2011 08:25:30
One thing is for sure: Many people will set up their PS3 with keyboard / mouse combos (hack) and kick the snot out of controller players... Twisted Evil

But honestly, currently PS network is in such state that I would not touch it with a long stick. I wonder if Sony manages to finally secure themselves by 2012.


You can buy a keyboard/mouse to use on the PS3. We used to sell them all the time at GameCrazy and they worked perfectly fine.

Though I have yet to be beaten by a mouse/keyboard user versus my controller (long time ago when Shadowrun was all the rage). Guess we'll see :P

fruitloaf
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:37:00 - [235]
 

id like to think that ccp will get dust on the xbox as i for one play the xbox when i take a break from eve i feel that sony do this alot with games making them exclusive so with that thought ccp will you answer the question as to why an exclusive with sony?

Dennie Fleetfoot
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:42:00 - [236]
 

After a decade of Xbox gaming, Xbox Live subscriptions and so on, it is just not even conceivable that I would leave that established ecosystem to play just one game. I don't care how good it might be or what benefits (if any at all) it might bring me as a capsuleer.

Also Sony have just proved themselves to the laughing stock of Internet security. Do you honestly think I'll trust them with so much as my email address, never mind my debit card details.

Dust has just gone from one of my most anticipated games of 2012 (after Mass Effect 3) to dead duck.

When you wake up after seeing the lacklustre sales on the console with the smallest userbase and decide to bring it to format I can play it on without buying new equipment (PC, I'm perfectly willing to concede that there may be technical reasons why it can't come to Xbox), then my interest will be re-kindled.

Till then, this game and all the great work that CCP have done on it is dead to me. Crying or Very sad

Aineko Macx
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:43:00 - [237]
 

How are you dealing with around-the-world network latency?
Or won't it matter because players are gonna play with blunt tools like joypads?

Balthizarr
Minmatar
Eve Engineering Logistics
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:45:00 - [238]
 

Edited by: Balthizarr on 07/06/2011 08:54:00
So much for me playing dust then. I've owned both consoles and hated the PS3 so sold it. Won't be buying another not even to play dust (a game i've been really looking forwards to owning), especially after sony being hacked and giving away peoples bank and supposed secure details!!!!! Evil or Very Mad

Clever move CCP Alienating us 360 owners by going exclusively with Sony!!!! Evil or Very Mad

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:48:00 - [239]
 

Originally by: fruitloaf
id like to think that ccp will get dust on the xbox as i for one play the xbox when i take a break from eve i feel that sony do this alot with games making them exclusive so with that thought ccp will you answer the question as to why an exclusive with sony?


Please let me refer you to an earlier post by CCP Fallout.

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.07 08:49:00 - [240]
 

I don't think it is a wise decisision to ignore the core of your playerbase with a PS3 only version of your game.


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