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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:59:00 - [181]
 

Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
Quote:
DUST 514 is a persistent setting that your actions influence and shape.


How much of that "Influence" will the DUST player notice? Since they are just ground units they shouldnt care much and only the EVE player can feel/see the influence.


CCP Shadow:

The most compelling aspect of DUST 514 is that your battles are meaningful. You conquer territory working with EVE players, or you can do the same with your fellow DUST 514 mercs.

Johnny Bravuro
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:05:00 - [182]
 

Oh my people people... PS3 exclusive ? want to know why ?


CCP doesn't want US to play the game, we're the PC users already paying for our subscriptions, WE will NOT be able (or willing) to play (and spend money) on 2 games SIMULTANEOUSLY.

CCP wants PS3 players, NEW PLAYERS, WE will support DUST from the outside doing pew-pew here in EVE Online, while PS3 community will get all the pew-pew fun on the planet surface.

The true reason Dust will never show on PC.

Sister Megarea
Sisters of Agony
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:05:00 - [183]
 

Originally by: LordElfa

Oh and CCP spitfire, why not explain why you chose to ignore your PC user base? Try and fit it in between your posted responses to the groupies.


Hell, why should they support the players that pay them hundreds of dollars per year ? After all, we only helped build CCP, continue funding them and keep adding to their coffers, year after year.

Aiming to please one-off purchase only players makes all the sense in the world, because... because... wait a minute...

Yeah CCP Spitfire ? Why did you decide to spit, vomit and kick your customer base in the face ?

I could understand a period of exclusivity - that makes all the business sense in the world. Making it PS3 exclusive ?

You must really, really hate your shareholders (Not to mention your customers)

Neo160
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:11:00 - [184]
 

WHAT!?!

a PS3 exclusive??? what about XBOX 360 PLAYERS!?! what about the fact you had previously stated this would be multi-console?

you just alienated the majority of fps players interested in playing this game, as the 360 houses the vast overiding majority of trigger happy gamers, not the ps3.

Thanks alot CCP, Dust is now DEAD to me, i'm not wasting several hundred dollars to play a pay to win game.

darmwand
Blood Money Dark Angels
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:14:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: Neo160
a PS3 exclusive??? what about XBOX 360 PLAYERS!?! what about the fact you had previously stated this would be multi-console?


Guess that's what you get for buying a console that's locked into its private little interpretation of the Internet...

Max Gades
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:14:00 - [186]
 

Originally by: Neo160
WHAT!?!

a PS3 exclusive??? what about XBOX 360 PLAYERS!?! what about the fact you had previously stated this would be multi-console?

you just alienated the majority of fps players interested in playing this game, as the 360 houses the vast overiding majority of trigger happy gamers, not the ps3.

Thanks alot CCP, Dust is now DEAD to me, i'm not wasting several hundred dollars to play a pay to win game.


funny how it was going to be multi-consule huh?

Internet Knight
The Kobayashi Maru
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:15:00 - [187]
 

I would never buy a PS3. Likewise, I would never buy any game for the PS3.

Lucky for CCP, my sister owns a PS3. Lucky for CCP, I might be able to wring her wrist into buying DUST 514 so I can play it. *giggles*

Players in EVE pay the mercs in DUST 514, right? Is the payment a straight one-to-one payment? I can pay a merc fifty trillions of ISK and they'll be set with the best gear evar for their whole life? Is that how that works? What about sending ISK the other way around... mercs do poorly or fail their contractual obligations or, hey, they even love their EVE master overlords and want to send a magical donation in the count of fifty trillions of ISKs... can that be done too?

Tyme Xandr
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:16:00 - [188]
 

Originally by: Jim Luc
Originally by: LordElfa
So don't play it. I can see the reasons for keeping it strictly console though as it's a closed system and the PS3 does have some interesting cell architecture. It's just more difficult to program for, and most of the ****ty games on the PS3 result from being developed for Xbox & ported over to the PS3.
YARRRR!!



Yeah, because Killzone 3s 2d texture mats for smoke really showed the prowess of that system. Everyone keeps saying PS3 has much higher abilities in graphical processing, but they havent shown that yet.

I think its due to the difficulty in programming for its architecture (especially its severely piped 'cell' (which isnt true cell tech as it is) and the rising cost of video game production. Companies just dont spend enough time with games and it costs them too much.

Im not a PS3 or XBOX or PC fanboy. I love technology and I am just calling it as it is.

Max Gades
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:16:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: darmwand
Originally by: Neo160
a PS3 exclusive??? what about XBOX 360 PLAYERS!?! what about the fact you had previously stated this would be multi-console?


Guess that's what you get for buying a console that's locked into its private little interpretation of the Internet...


so you think that playing on a free server means your safe we already seen what happens on sony.... havent they been hacked a few more times since they been on the news???

BlueOrca
Gallente
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:23:00 - [190]
 

So only the Green Goblin's hardware is safe for Dust?
How much do nVidia pay you?

darmwand
Blood Money Dark Angels
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:24:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: Max Gades
havent they been hacked a few more times since they been on the news???


Almost daily, I think - Karma can be a *****.

Don't get me wrong, it's going to be hard to find someone who dislikes Sony more than I do. I just think that, from a technical point of view, a game like Dust is easier to implement on the PS3, where you have a somewhat open network than on the Xbox' closed little ecosystem. Of course I could be wrong, seeing that I'm a PC kind of person and don't know those networks. I'm just saying that *maybe* there are technical reasons for this choice.

Then again, maybe CCP just likes Sony. Who knows.

Habaticus
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:29:00 - [192]
 

Well easy for me - No PC - no play.

Jehanne D'ark
Minmatar
Ghost Tribal Credit Union
Sspectre
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:32:00 - [193]
 

Originally by: darmwand
Originally by: Max Gades
havent they been hacked a few more times since they been on the news???


Almost daily, I think - Karma can be a *****.

Don't get me wrong, it's going to be hard to find someone who dislikes Sony more than I do. I just think that, from a technical point of view, a game like Dust is easier to implement on the PS3, where you have a somewhat open network than on the Xbox' closed little ecosystem. Of course I could be wrong, seeing that I'm a PC kind of person and don't know those networks. I'm just saying that *maybe* there are technical reasons for this choice.

Then again, maybe CCP just likes Sony. Who knows.

CCP and Sony are BFF. They have gatecamps set up around XBox's territory, but gaining sov there is a *****. They announced Dust to recruit new pilots in an attempt to destroy the titan construction facilities before Xbox's Halo-class Titans are launched.

Tolaskar Hardrada
Men of Providence
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:38:00 - [194]
 

Edited by: Tolaskar Hardrada on 07/06/2011 06:39:25
*bangs heads against keyboard repeatedly until his forehead begins to bleed*

If I get banned on my first post here so be it; but are all of you *****ing about how terribad CCP is REALLY THAT ****ING STUPID?

Microsoft said no to Dust 514, they don't want it on their console as they don't want the game to be able to connect the way it is designed too to EVE Online.

I'm like the third person in this topic to have pointed this out but you nimrods apparently are literate enough to ramble on incoherently but illiterate enough to ignore the blatantly obvious answers to your questions.

For any further questions of your idiocy, CCP has made this lovely music video for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

Note; I am likewise disappointed that Dust 514 is not coming out on the Xbox 360, but Micro**** is on the edge of not getting anymore of my own money as is due to their ****ty service. And the issues they cause for MMO developers and publishers isn't anything new. I will gladly save up the money to purchase a PS3 so that I can participate in the Beta release of Dust 514 at the end of the year.

But Unreal Engine 3? Really? Frostbite 2 would have been an astronomical improvement for you to use on so many levels...I can only dream...


Darth Polios
Amarr
Oregon Trail rising
The Methodical Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:40:00 - [195]
 

Wow...... PS3 exclusive that that's really a kick in the face, seems no Dust 514 for me :(

Max Gades
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:41:00 - [196]
 

Originally by: Jehanne D'ark
Originally by: darmwand
Originally by: Max Gades
havent they been hacked a few more times since they been on the news???


Almost daily, I think - Karma can be a *****.

Don't get me wrong, it's going to be hard to find someone who dislikes Sony more than I do. I just think that, from a technical point of view, a game like Dust is easier to implement on the PS3, where you have a somewhat open network than on the Xbox' closed little ecosystem. Of course I could be wrong, seeing that I'm a PC kind of person and don't know those networks. I'm just saying that *maybe* there are technical reasons for this choice.

Then again, maybe CCP just likes Sony. Who knows.

CCP and Sony are BFF. They have gatecamps set up around XBox's territory, but gaining sov there is a *****. They announced Dust to recruit new pilots in an attempt to destroy the titan construction facilities before Xbox's Halo-class Titans are launched.


dont get me wrong but i have to look furter down the road than what a lot of other people are. im not going anywhere near sony untill they stop getting hacked on a regular bases. if it wasnt all over the news do you thing 99% of the questions about peoples info being secure would be what the devs are dealing with for the most part?

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:42:00 - [197]
 

Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 07/06/2011 06:44:52
Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 07/06/2011 06:43:09
Originally by: Tolaskar Hardrada
Edited by: Tolaskar Hardrada on 07/06/2011 06:39:25
*bangs heads against keyboard repeatedly until his forehead begins to bleed*

If I get banned on my first post here so be it; but are all of you *****ing about how terribad CCP is REALLY THAT ****ING STUPID?

Microsoft said no to Dust 514, they don't want it on their console as they don't want the game to be able to connect the way it is designed too to EVE Online.

I'm like the third person in this topic to have pointed this out but you nimrods apparently are literate enough to ramble on incoherently but illiterate enough to ignore the blatantly obvious answers to your questions.

For any further questions of your idiocy, CCP has made this lovely music video for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

Note; I am likewise disappointed that Dust 514 is not coming out on the Xbox 360, but Micro**** is on the edge of not getting anymore of my own money as is due to their ****ty service. And the issues they cause for MMO developers and publishers isn't anything new. I will gladly save up the money to purchase a PS3 so that I can participate in the Beta release of Dust 514 at the end of the year.

But Unreal Engine 3? Really? Frostbite 2 would have been an astronomical improvement for you to use on so many levels...I can only dream...



Frostbite 2.0 certainly is a great engine, but Unreal Engine 3 is no slouch either. The engine's effectiveness relies on how much effort the developer puts forth. I have confidence that CCP will deliver on that front.

And yeah, no Dust on the Xbox 360 is very much tied to how closed Xbox Live is when it comes to this sort of thing. There's a reason why you don't see (m)any MMOs on that system.

(PC version. Make one. Razz)

Max Gades
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:44:00 - [198]
 

Originally by: Tolaskar Hardrada
Edited by: Tolaskar Hardrada on 07/06/2011 06:39:25
*bangs heads against keyboard repeatedly until his forehead begins to bleed*

If I get banned on my first post here so be it; but are all of you *****ing about how terribad CCP is REALLY THAT ****ING STUPID?

Microsoft said no to Dust 514, they don't want it on their console as they don't want the game to be able to connect the way it is designed too to EVE Online.

I'm like the third person in this topic to have pointed this out but you nimrods apparently are literate enough to ramble on incoherently but illiterate enough to ignore the blatantly obvious answers to your questions.

For any further questions of your idiocy, CCP has made this lovely music video for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

Note; I am likewise disappointed that Dust 514 is not coming out on the Xbox 360, but Micro**** is on the edge of not getting anymore of my own money as is due to their ****ty service. And the issues they cause for MMO developers and publishers isn't anything new. I will gladly save up the money to purchase a PS3 so that I can participate in the Beta release of Dust 514 at the end of the year.

But Unreal Engine 3? Really? Frostbite 2 would have been an astronomical improvement for you to use on so many levels...I can only dream...




its not the fact that its not on xbox as much as sony's recent breach of secruity and people personal info being taken... thats really what im seeing, yeah im not interest sololy because of sonys lack of secruity plus having to spend more money on a new game system all together...

darmwand
Blood Money Dark Angels
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:44:00 - [199]
 

Originally by: Max Gades
dont get me wrong but i have to look furter down the road than what a lot of other people are. im not going anywhere near sony untill they stop getting hacked on a regular bases. if it wasnt all over the news do you thing 99% of the questions about peoples info being secure would be what the devs are dealing with for the most part?


Who would have anticipated that aggroing pretty much the entire hacker community could have negative side effects? Smile

Tolaskar Hardrada
Men of Providence
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:47:00 - [200]
 

Originally by: Oberine Noriepa

Frostbite 2.0 certainly is a great engine, but Unreal Engine 3 is no slouch either. The engine's effectiveness relies on how much the effort the developer puts forth. I have confidence that CCP will deliver on that front.

And yeah, no Dust on the Xbox 360 is very much tied to how closed Xbox Live is when it comes to this sort of thing. There's a reason why you don't see (m)any MMOs on that system.

(PC version. Make one. Razz)


Indeed UE3 is a good engine. It's just that 99% of the games that use it look exactly the same and the first footage we were given of Dust 514 wasn't much better. Not that Dust looking like a BF3 carbon copy is any better.

The new alpha footage is very much a step up from the pre-alpha footage released back in the day. I have high hopes for Dust, though I would hope we'll be getting a lot of personal customization with the AEGIS or have options for far more and a greater diversity of armor styles.

el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:52:00 - [201]
 

I own no consoles and hence never had any interest in Dust when it was announced two-ish years ago that it would be console only. That said, I still shake my head in disappointment at the exclusivity announcement. Development planning, decisions, and quality - both inside and outside of EVE - continue on a downslope it seems.

I just wasted a solid two minutes typing this. I'm an idiot.

Tolaskar Hardrada
Men of Providence
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:53:00 - [202]
 

Edited by: Tolaskar Hardrada on 07/06/2011 06:53:59
Originally by: Max Gades

its not the fact that its not on xbox as much as sony's recent breach of secruity and people personal info being taken... thats really what im seeing, yeah im not interest sololy because of sonys lack of secruity plus having to spend more money on a new game system all together...


Very, very bad week RL + Sister Megarea's last post (showing a complete and utter lack of basic knowledge regarding the topic) with the comments from others set me off. I can only handle so much whining from perceived adults.

That being said I didn't actually know about the PSN hack until more than a few days ago, only having a Xbox 360 sorta creates a bubble around me. But the posting regarding the issue seems to be coming from Xbox 360 or PC-exclusive gamers. Plus anyone with even a tidbit of technical knowledge shouldn't be too surprised that someone cracked the PSN. If the same can be done to the Pentagon or Government (U.S.A), what do you expect a simple corporation to do?

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:56:00 - [203]
 

I still can't really understand why MicroSoft didn't want DUST on their platform...

Max Gades
Posted - 2011.06.07 06:57:00 - [204]
 

Originally by: Tolaskar Hardrada
Edited by: Tolaskar Hardrada on 07/06/2011 06:53:59
Originally by: Max Gades

its not the fact that its not on xbox as much as sony's recent breach of secruity and people personal info being taken... thats really what im seeing, yeah im not interest sololy because of sonys lack of secruity plus having to spend more money on a new game system all together...


Very, very bad week RL + Sister Megarea's last post (showing a complete and utter lack of basic knowledge regarding the topic) with the comments from others set me off. I can only handle so much whining from perceived adults.

That being said I didn't actually know about the PSN hack until more than a few days ago, only having a Xbox 360 sorta creates a bubble around me. But the posting regarding the issue seems to be coming from Xbox 360 or PC-exclusive gamers. Plus anyone with even a tidbit of technical knowledge shouldn't be too surprised that someone cracked the PSN. If the same can be done to the Pentagon or Government (U.S.A), what do you expect a simple corporation to do?


yeah i know but im more aware because i've already seen first hand what someones personal info in someone else hand can do. i get it every other day when i talk to my parents because hey someone got their personal info... I'm not fully against it but im sure as hell not fully with it as far as going PS3 only...

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:02:00 - [205]
 

Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
I still can't really understand why MicroSoft didn't want DUST on their platform...

I don't think it's necessarily that Microsoft simply didn't want it on the Xbox 360, but rather the fact that Xbox Live offers no flexibility when it comes to the interactivity between Dust 514 and EVE Online. In order for CCP to be able to match the vision they've set for New Eden, they require the freedom to do it.

Mallikanth
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:06:00 - [206]
 

Edited by: Mallikanth on 07/06/2011 07:06:38
Sounds like it could be fun for PS3 owners.
A few q's if I may...

How about different planetary environments - lava, water planets etc?
Different gravity?
How will the Mercs get their jobs?
Will they always work for Capsuleers?
Own any assets of their own?
How will eve players be able to interact with the ground forces, other than just hiring them in the first place(Planetary strikes etc)?

Shame I just bought an Xbox. Laughing




Kasidis
Gallente
Nexus.6
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:09:00 - [207]
 

So much emo rage. I don't know why people are so butthurt over the fact that it is a PS3 exclusive. I am a PS3 owner and there are plenty of xbox and pc games I wish were on PS3. Xbox doesn't have the capability to do this sort of thing and it is a very dated console. Microsoft doesn't do this kind of stuff anyway. As for the people wanting it on pc, they said 2 years ago that it wouldn't so go away. If you are quitting eve because of this, well nobody cares tbh. CCP is gaining more subs than loosing so go right ahead. CCP specifically said they wanted to gain new console player not existing eve players. Go ahead and complain all you want, it's going to happen anyway. You don't HAVE to play it anyway.

Dark Waltzer
APEX ARDENT COALITION
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:12:00 - [208]
 



Also another point 360 doesn't do free updates or free anything you have to pay

ccp is all about free updates



I'm pretty sure I get free updates for my Xbox games whenever I turn it on and load it up...... Not really sure what you're on about.
Also this is a major upset with it only being on the PS3. CCP is losing out on a huge market. What a shame.

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:12:00 - [209]
 

Originally by: Mallikanth
Edited by: Mallikanth on 07/06/2011 07:06:38
Sounds like it could be fun for PS3 owners.
A few q's if I may...

How about different planetary environments - lava, water planets etc?
Different gravity?
How will the Mercs get their jobs?
Will they always work for Capsuleers?
Own any assets of their own?
How will eve players be able to interact with the ground forces, other than just hiring them in the first place(Planetary strikes etc)?

Shame I just bought an Xbox. Laughing



These questions are going to be covered in the future dev blogs leading up to the beta and launch, so stay tuned and make sure to check the DUST website for updates.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.06.07 07:16:00 - [210]
 

Wanted to see the DUST video, then noticed it's hosted on a overclocked Commodore Vic 20.


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