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Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:52:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: Della Monk
Originally by: Oberine Noriepa
Also, to what extent will the PlayStation Vita's role play in all of this?


My money's on a beefed-up version of the various apps that exist for eve. Skills, fittings, equipment, eve gate(ha), in-game chat so that you can actually get console players coordinated when they aren't at their console, etc.

I was thinking this as well, but it's nice to get confirmation. :)

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:55:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: Salpun
Originally by: Gypsy RoseLee
I would never trust Sony with my personal information, you just guaranteed that I'll never play Dust 514. The direction you have taken Eve Online in the last couple years, your disregard for personal privacy and security when deploying the new forums was as bad, if not worse than Sony's recent security breaches.

All three of my paid accounts as of now are canceled. Vote with your wallets people, how else will CCP get the message.



Did you even read the thread. Your info is rarely safe on network-connected systems.
Fixed that one for you.

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:01:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara
Originally by: Salpun
Originally by: Gypsy RoseLee
I would never trust Sony with my personal information, you just guaranteed that I'll never play Dust 514. The direction you have taken Eve Online in the last couple years, your disregard for personal privacy and security when deploying the new forums was as bad, if not worse than Sony's recent security breaches.

All three of my paid accounts as of now are canceled. Vote with your wallets people, how else will CCP get the message.



Did you even read the thread. Your info is rarely safe on network-connected systems.
Fixed that one for you.


Not empty quoting...

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:04:00 - [154]
 

Quiting eve thenLaughing did not think so then your point while relavent leaves everyone with the same amount of risk.

Question for the devs.
Are the markets for Dust and EVE split. From what I have read this is the case but needs to be confirmed. We need a graphicTwisted Evil
Is it same station two markets dealing in diffent items accessable only by one type of player or is it two markets one ISK/One vanity money?

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:06:00 - [155]
 

Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 07/06/2011 05:06:33
Originally by: Salpun
Quiting eve thenLaughing did not think so then your point while relavent leaves everyone with the same amount of risk.

Question for the devs.
Are the markets for Dust and EVE split. From what I have read this is the case but needs to be confirmed. We need a graphicTwisted Evil
Is it same station two markets dealing in diffent items accessable only by one type of player or is it two markets one ISK/One vanity money?

Check out this link, it explains a lot. PlayStation Blog: Introducing Dust 514, a Persistent Shooter from CCP

CCP Sreegs

Posted - 2011.06.07 05:06:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: Gypsy RoseLee
I would never trust Sony with my personal information, you just guaranteed that I'll never play Dust 514. The direction you have taken Eve Online in the last couple years, your disregard for personal privacy and security when deploying the new forums was as bad, if not worse than Sony's recent security breaches.

All three of my paid accounts as of now are canceled. Vote with your wallets people, how else will CCP get the message.


To clarify, as has been stated repeatedly, your personal information was never at risk on the forums.

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:07:00 - [157]
 

Edited by: Naomi Wildfire on 07/06/2011 05:10:47
Quote:
Is it same station two markets dealing in diffent items accessable only by one type of player or is it two markets one ISK/One vanity money?


As you can currently see on Sisi they already have a very basic looking kind of Vanity item shop.

Quote:
Originally by: CCP Sreegs
To clarify, as has been stated repeatedly, your personal information was never at risk on the forums.


Well, the real personal information wasnt on risk, thats true. The real danger was that you could log in with a different char by changing your Char ID in the Cookies (afaik) and that you inject code to modify the page (creating a log in page to gain account data).

If nothing ever was on risk, why was it removed that fast?

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:08:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: ysomad2

iím guessing that it wonít be released this year, given how you just announced it and how massive a project it will be. is it looking like it will be ready sometime next year for release?


CCP Shadow:

Summer 2012.

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:09:00 - [159]
 

Originally by: Oberine Noriepa
Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 07/06/2011 05:06:33
Originally by: Salpun
Quiting eve thenLaughing did not think so then your point while relavent leaves everyone with the same amount of risk.

Question for the devs.
Are the markets for Dust and EVE split. From what I have read this is the case but needs to be confirmed. We need a graphicTwisted Evil
Is it same station two markets dealing in diffent items accessable only by one type of player or is it two markets one ISK/One vanity money?

Check out this link, it explains a lot. PlayStation Blog: Introducing Dust 514, a Persistent Shooter from CCP

not clear enoughLaughing Until the Economy dev blog promised comes out on Dust the fear mongering will continueTwisted Evil

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:09:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: Adrance

I like the look of the game but the EVE Online interaction just brings up a lot of questions.

The main one being, what incentives to players have if they donít play EVE? I see a lot of benefits to Dust 514 if you operate in the EVE universe but why will players pick up this FPS over others that are out or coming out (especially with all the new announcements from E3)?


CCP Shadow:

Adrance, the people that DUST 514 will most appeal to are those who want something different from the latest FPS title that they play for a few months, perhaps through a DLC map pack, and move on. DUST 514 is a persistent setting that your actions influence and shape. Thatís really what DUST offers that differs from whatís currently out there.

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:14:00 - [161]
 

Quote:
DUST 514 is a persistent setting that your actions influence and shape.


How much of that "Influence" will the DUST player notice? Since they are just ground units they shouldnt care much and only the EVE player can feel/see the influence.

CCP Sreegs

Posted - 2011.06.07 05:16:00 - [162]
 

Edited by: CCP Sreegs on 07/06/2011 05:18:21
Edited by: CCP Sreegs on 07/06/2011 05:17:49
Edited by: CCP Sreegs on 07/06/2011 05:16:26
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
Edited by: Naomi Wildfire on 07/06/2011 05:10:47
Quote:
Is it same station two markets dealing in diffent items accessable only by one type of player or is it two markets one ISK/One vanity money?


As you can currently see on Sisi they already have a very basic looking kind of Vanity item shop.

Quote:
Originally by: CCP Sreegs
To clarify, as has been stated repeatedly, your personal information was never at risk on the forums.


Well, the real personal information wasnt on risk, thats true. The real danger was that you could log in with a different char by changing your Char ID in the Cookies (afaik) and that you inject code to modify the page (creating a log in page to gain account data).

If nothing ever was on risk, why was it removed that fast?


Because it was broken? The code injection only allowed for a limited HTML subset. The theorycrafting about iframed login pages was erroneous as it was not possible. I'll see if I can dig up my dev blog on the subject that explains exactly this.

:edit: Here it is

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:16:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
Quote:
Is it same station two markets dealing in diffent items accessable only by one type of player or is it two markets one ISK/One vanity money?


As you can currently see on Sisi they already have a very basic looking kind of Vanity item shop.


True but will there be two vanity shops or one. Thats the question. Will both types of items be seeable but becouse of the built in locks the EVE player cannot buy a plasma rocket.


The whole issue is combat power bought by $$ and how that $$ ripples in the current EVE economy.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:22:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: Nergil

Really? No monthly fee? That just sold me and I almost looked right past this game. The ripple effect between the two games sounds very very cool.


CCP Shadow:

Really.

And yes, the ability to influence the setting is what makes this game unique.

Harune Sasen
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:22:00 - [165]
 

Brilliant idea to choose Sony as a partner, excuse my sarcasm. How many people have dropeed sony products due of the continuous hacks ? Personally i would not touch such company at all, so bye bye dust514, you were a great idea but unfortunatley it is doomed to be a stillborn.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:22:00 - [166]
 

Originally by: Da_xavier

This game looks amazing and i love the idea of the game effecting EVE online and vice versa. It gives the game dynamic and depth. Please say there is gonna be a clan option and i dont mean option and i dont mean were you just put tags on i mean actual Clan management were we can invite members and have wars. That would bring alot of interest and players to your game. I cant wait to play when it releases.


CCP Shadow:

Corporations are an important aspect of DUST 514, and there is far more depth to the system than simply Ďinvite to Claní tools. Corps are a core aspect of the social gameplay that DUST 514 and EVE Online both offer.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:24:00 - [167]
 

Originally by: Adrance

I like the look of the game but the EVE Online interaction just brings up a lot of questions.

The main one being, what incentives to players have if they donít play EVE? I see a lot of benefits to Dust 514 if you operate in the EVE universe but why will players pick up this FPS over others that are out or coming out (especially with all the new announcements from E3)?


CCP Shadow:

Adrance, the people that DUST 514 will most appeal to are those who want something different from the latest FPS title that they play for a few months, perhaps through a DLC map pack, and move on. DUST 514 is a persistent setting that your actions influence and shape. Thatís really what DUST offers that differs from whatís currently out there.

Mercy Crow
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:28:00 - [168]
 

I know its been said before but i just gotta say it again...

As an PC player and Eve online paying customer im more then slightly disappointed at the decision to make Dust an PS3 exclusive and i dont care about your joint venture marketing deals its PLAIN STUPID as it prevents alot of people the thrill of an EVE based FPS game with EVE universe impact.
Another reason its stupid is because any and all consoles are simply inferior to a gaming PC (which can be upgraded even rebuilt indefinite) the only thing a console delivers is a steady enviroment for developers for a one time sale deal with a never updating game.

Callic Veratar
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:28:00 - [169]
 

The presentation I've heard so far describes what I'd imagine as nullsec Dust 514. Will there be an equivalent and equally engaging highsec equivalent? I'd like my Dust characters to be active in my current corp.

LordElfa
Gallente
Golden Lyon Warriors
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:35:00 - [170]
 

The fact that CCP has made an FPS of all things to interact with a PC only MMO and did not bring it to the PC as well as consoles is so dumb it borders on ******ation.

Unless this comes to PC, I won't play it. I'm a PC gamer, that's why I play games like EVE and to ignore and cut out a large percentage of your player base is ignorant and cruel.

Bala Dara
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:40:00 - [171]
 

I just can't see why CCP would do this. I feel that Dust 514 shouldn't be on a single console. I was looking forward to Dust being open. But it's insane to buy a ps3 or for that matter any other console just to be able to play Dust. I mean the only thing that Sony has on it's ps3 is a blu-ray player. But that aside the big thing is there network isn't secure. And they have proven time and again that it isn't. I don't feel that I would be safe using there network. I'm not even if someone was to give me a ps3 going to use it. It's not worth the risk.

LordElfa
Gallente
Golden Lyon Warriors
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:42:00 - [172]
 

Edited by: LordElfa on 07/06/2011 05:42:23
Hell, even if I owned a PS3 I wouldn't play this for the sheer fact that this game being done for a console when it interacts with a PC MMO is just stupid.

CCP AND Sony can shove this game where the sun don't shine.

Yes, I mean Iceland of course.

Namielus
Caldari
Namielus Holdings
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:42:00 - [173]
 

Hi,

CCP I have been an eve subscriber for the past 6 years and this announcement end the term of my account with you. I work in the development world so I understand all the factors that simply cannot be know and just how difficult it is to bring vision to reality. My intention isn't not to threaten you into 'changing your ways' because I know you've been painstakingly looking at.

It has been lots of fun over the years but on the eve of incarna and dust I'm done waiting and I need to choose a different way to spend my time.

Namielus

Jim Luc
Caldari
Rule of Five
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:43:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: LordElfa
The fact that CCP has made an FPS of all things to interact with a PC only MMO and did not bring it to the PC as well as consoles is so dumb it borders on ******ation.

Unless this comes to PC, I won't play it. I'm a PC gamer, that's why I play games like EVE and to ignore and cut out a large percentage of your player base is ignorant and cruel.


So don't play it. I can see the reasons for keeping it strictly console though as it's a closed system and the PS3 does have some interesting cell architecture. It's just more difficult to program for, and most of the ****ty games on the PS3 result from being developed for Xbox & ported over to the PS3.

I am an Xbox fanboy at heart though so it's a little disappointing. I can see the reasons, but nonetheless I'm disappointed.

I think having Sony as a partner will help the Eve universe quite a bit, and Sony really needs something exclusive like this. I'm sure CCP will get a very helpful boost regarding knowledge of advertising, infrastructure, etc.

Chances are I'm betting most of us will go out & buy a PS3 just to have our leg in Dust. You already have 4 alts and a $6000 gaming rig, what's a $300 blu-ray player?
YARRRR!!

Levaria
Gallente
Incertae Sedis
Atlas.
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:46:00 - [175]
 

I'm a PS3 owner and to say the least I am surprised, I was expecting it to be for at least the 360 as well. Granted perhaps another reason they went with the PS3 is that one can hook up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the console if I am not mistaken (either via USB and or bluetooth).

Was really hoping it was also for PC but at least I have my Playstation 3.

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:46:00 - [176]
 

Originally by: Salpun

Question for the devs.
Are the markets for Dust and EVE split. From what I have read this is the case but needs to be confirmed. We need a graphicTwisted Evil
Is it same station two markets dealing in diffent items accessable only by one type of player or is it two markets one ISK/One vanity money?


Yes, the markets are split. Some additional information on the EVE/DUST economy can be found in this dev blog.


LordElfa
Gallente
Golden Lyon Warriors
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:52:00 - [177]
 

Edited by: LordElfa on 07/06/2011 05:55:04
Originally by: Jim Luc
Originally by: LordElfa
The fact that CCP has made an FPS of all things to interact with a PC only MMO and did not bring it to the PC as well as consoles is so dumb it borders on ******ation.

Unless this comes to PC, I won't play it. I'm a PC gamer, that's why I play games like EVE and to ignore and cut out a large percentage of your player base is ignorant and cruel.


So don't play it.


I can't play it troll, I don't have a PS3, weren't you paying attention?

Oh and CCP spitfire, why not explain why you chose to ignore your PC user base? Try and fit it in between your posted responses to the groupies.

darmwand
Blood Money Dark Angels
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:55:00 - [178]
 

Originally by: Callic Veratar
The presentation I've heard so far describes what I'd imagine as nullsec Dust 514. Will there be an equivalent and equally engaging highsec equivalent? I'd like my Dust characters to be active in my current corp.


Yes, but if you attack someone you will get concorded. You *can* however walk around, look at things and gather various kinds of flowers. Very Happy

Damian Voidwalker
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:58:00 - [179]
 

I think the PS3 was a good choice and probably the only one available to CCP Microsoft has been a pain when it comes to allowing games played on the Xbox 360 access to servers not owned and operated by them. how many games can you get on a Xbox and play with a PS3 owner? the ONLY game to my knowledge that is cross platform between a PlayStation and an Xbox is Final Fantasy XI and it is PS2 and Xbox 360.... in short Microsoft wont let them link their EVE Online server with the Xbox 360.. Sony said yes so it goes to the PS3. i own a PS3 and at one time owned a Xbox 360 and personally i would choose a PlayStation over a Xbox any day. yes Sony just got hacked... IT COULD HAPPEN TO MICROSOFT TOO! as a matter of fact it happens all the time just in more localized ways i myself have had my Xbox Live acct hacked into and had $149.99 charged to my bank acct and do you know what Microsoft said? well we will give you $60 back no prob but the rest you have to jump through hoops to get.. i still have not heard the end of that and it happened in March! and yet Sony gets hacked and they say "sorry let us fix it here is free identity theft protection here is some free games here is a bunch of stuff were so sorry" at least they did something

Sister Megarea
Sisters of Agony
Posted - 2011.06.07 05:59:00 - [180]
 

PS3 exclusive - You can count me as another long term Eve player who was going to support CCP by buying the game and at least trying it - But putting it on consoles only ? Like they said on ARSTechnica: go change your diapers.

You can also count me in the players who will wholeheartedly focus on griefing the console babies to make their lives absolutely miserable.

PS3 "FPS" players: (There's no such thing as a real First Person Shooter on a console - Only push button mazes) PRAY - Really, really hard, that CCP takes pity on you and doesn't allow orbital bombardment.


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