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OwlManAtt
Gallente
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:09:00 - [121]
 

Will a PSN account be required to play DUST?

Della Monk
Broski Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:10:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Nac MacFeegle
Originally by: Salpun
The only reponse that is needed was reposted from another thread by me on the last page.

CCP Screggs did answer the question himself like 10 posts up but deleated his post after he saw my post.

All acounts will connect directly to CCP servers when money trasanctions are needed.


ANYTHING that involves transfer of personal data to/from Sony needs to be announced publically, NOW. They have proven themselves incapable recently of securing that kind of data.

And by "announcing", I mean by public press release, not something easily buried in a forum.



That's exactly what Sreegs said. IF they were giving our info out, they would tell us. In the absence of such notice, it's safe to assume they aren't. In the presence of the head of security, it's safe to be certain.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:12:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: KoruptDawg

“DUST 514 will support purchases made through both in-game earned currency and real money currency.”

This sounds like the whole “Can-only-get-the-GOOD-stuff-if-you-actually-pay-for-it” deal.


CCP Shadow:

Nope. It won’t work like that, we’re going to have a balanced system. There will be a secondary market with player-to-player trading. A player can buy virtual goods with real world currency, put it on the market, which can be bought by a player with in-game earned currency. This is explained in greater detail in CCP Praetorian’s dev blog here: http://www.dust514.com/en/news/article/1980/beginnings

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2011.06.07 04:13:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: OwlManAtt
Will a PSN account be required to play DUST?


Yes.

Nac MacFeegle
Argyll Manufacturing
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:16:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: CCP Sreegs
Originally by: Nac MacFeegle



And until I see a press release, or a front-page-announced blog entry from someone who matters, I will not be satisified. The clock is ticking, CCP. Do you want the money from the people who are legitimately concerned abot this?


You wound me :(


Sorry Bucky, but until I get public (and I mean PUBLIC) reassurance from the God Emperor of CCP, I'm not going to be satisified. And I don't believe a lot of people will be, either.

Higgs Bison
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:16:00 - [126]
 

Just so this doesn't get buried.

Quote:
How will EVE be affected is Dust is a flop?


Tyme Xandr
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:18:00 - [127]
 

Well, I am in a similar boat as many other people here are in. I am an XBOX360 owner and was very interested and even excited about Dust514, however; I cant justify the purchase of another console just for this game.

I suppose I will have to suffice while spend my days playing Gears of War 3 ...

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:21:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: KoruptDawg

“DUST 514 will support purchases made through both in-game earned currency and real money currency.”

This sounds like the whole “Can-only-get-the-GOOD-stuff-if-you-actually-pay-for-it” deal.


CCP Shadow:

Nope. It won’t work like that, we’re going to have a balanced system. There will be a secondary market with player-to-player trading. A player can buy virtual goods with real world currency, put it on the market, which can be bought by a player with in-game earned currency. This is explained in greater detail in CCP Praetorian’s dev blog here: http://www.dust514.com/en/news/article/1980/beginnings


Come on, the Aurum thing is a joke. You have to buy more than you need and its completely out of balance.

Lets say, on the test server its currently (i believe) 3500 Aurum for one Plex, a piece of cloth costs 1-2 Aurum. If you want one special thing you have to sacrifice a whole plex and have lots of unused Aurums.
Doing a little math, 1 Aurum is worth 114,286 ISK. Hell you can buy a Spaceship or a Skirt.

You cant be serious with all the stuff, you even have a crap taste when it comes to clothes, they look not very cool.


Quote:
How will EVE be affected is Dust is a flop?

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:23:00 - [129]
 

Edited by: MotherMoon on 07/06/2011 04:25:16
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: KoruptDawg

“DUST 514 will support purchases made through both in-game earned currency and real money currency.”

This sounds like the whole “Can-only-get-the-GOOD-stuff-if-you-actually-pay-for-it” deal.


CCP Shadow:

Nope. It won’t work like that, we’re going to have a balanced system. There will be a secondary market with player-to-player trading. A player can buy virtual goods with real world currency, put it on the market, which can be bought by a player with in-game earned currency. This is explained in greater detail in CCP Praetorian’s dev blog here: http://www.dust514.com/en/news/article/1980/beginnings


Come on, the Aurum thing is a joke. You have to buy more than you need and its completely out of balance.

Lets say, on the test server its currently (i believe) 3500 Aurum for one Plex, a piece of cloth costs 1-2 Aurum. If you want one special thing you have to sacrifice a whole plex and have lots of unused Aurums.
Doing a little math, 1 Aurum is worth 114,286 ISK. Hell you can buy a Spaceship or a Skirt.

You cant be serious with all the stuff, you even have a crap taste when it comes to clothes, they look not very cool.


Quote:
How will EVE be affected is Dust is a flop?




um the whole secondary market is based on what you just posted. The fact is you can A buy my one aurum item off the market for 300,000isk. Or you can buy 3500 aurm and get it bulk discount.
Edited by: MotherMoon on 07/06/2011 04:24:03
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
Originally by: Higgs Bison
How will EVE be affected is Dust is a flop?


Why do you ignore this question btw, it is very important.


becuase it's been answered 1000 times?


also I'll ask again. Are the 4 races going to apparent in dust 514

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2011.06.07 04:25:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Higgs Bison
How will EVE be affected is Dust is a flop?


The games don't require each other to work.

Dan Brimstone
Order of Dendera
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:27:00 - [131]
 

I'm probably one of the few that doesn't really mind it being on PS3, although I am a little ****ed that I have to buy another freaking game console. My biggest problem is the PS3 controller, it really isn't that great for FPS's, the offset control stick on the left side is a real pain in the butt.

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:28:00 - [132]
 

All 5 races are identified on the site. As they are using a CQ like interface as the main hub for the 514ers. Race will be very apparent I would think. We might even see them out in the stations which will populate some areas nicely.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:30:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Sekoku

I’m asking this completely honest: I don’t care about the MMO universe, what is the hook or appeal for me a non-MMO shooter fan? Yes, I know of the link. No, I don’t care. What is there to appeal to me with games like Call of Duty or Battlefield or other shooters (some sci-fi, most not) coming out?


CCP Shadow:

The most compelling aspect of DUST 514 is that your battles are meaningful. You conquer territory working with EVE players, or you can do the same with your fellow DUST 514 mercs. DUST 514 is a persistent world, something that other titles out there just don’t offer.

Aachor
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:30:00 - [134]
 

Looks good CCP! Despite all the naysayers saying "nay", it's been my experience that EVE is one of the highest quality MMO's available. I expect and look forward to the same from DUST 514. Very Happy I am especially looking forward to the integration of the two games.

One question: will EVE players have the opportunity to produce goods/weapons/equips used by DUST players?

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:31:00 - [135]
 

Wish you guys got some more exposure out there. You definitely need to have a dedicated conference to show what this game is all about. Visuals definitely need to be improved and optimized.

Will there be a PC version?

You guys have my full support on this one. :)

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:33:00 - [136]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Higgs Bison
How will EVE be affected is Dust is a flop?


The games don't require each other to work.


Wasn't there a statement that they should do the sovereignty conflicts for us, which would be a pretty essential role.

Sassums
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:33:00 - [137]
 

Not happy it will only be on the PS3.

Just what I want is to give them my information for it to be hacked like last time.

Bane Loppknow
Pel Industries
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:33:00 - [138]
 

As disappointed as I am with the ps3 exclusivity, I'm still looking forward to DUST. I'd like to see, at some point, mercs being able to storm capital ships, forcibly ejecting the capsuleers, and turning it over to a waiting ally. Could open up whole new avenues of gameplay in both games. Capsuleers flying boarding frigates, etc.

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:37:00 - [139]
 

Also, to what extent will the PlayStation Vita's role play in all of this?

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:38:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: Bane Loppknow
As disappointed as I am with the ps3 exclusivity, I'm still looking forward to DUST. I'd like to see, at some point, mercs being able to storm capital ships, forcibly ejecting the capsuleers, and turning it over to a waiting ally. Could open up whole new avenues of gameplay in both games. Capsuleers flying boarding frigates, etc.


Well, how exactly do you wanna board a ship by force. You'd need to break through its hull and hey, as long as my armor is intact and i can rep against that you cant to ****.

If i want to play a shooter, i turn off eve and start one. I dont want to play eve and be forced to be tied to FPS stuff.

DavidJayder
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:38:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Bane Loppknow
As disappointed as I am with the ps3 exclusivity, I'm still looking forward to DUST. I'd like to see, at some point, mercs being able to storm capital ships, forcibly ejecting the capsuleers, and turning it over to a waiting ally. Could open up whole new avenues of gameplay in both games. Capsuleers flying boarding frigates, etc.


Just gonna say. Boarding and taking ships is the worst idea ever. CCP should never actually do that.

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:39:00 - [142]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Higgs Bison
How will EVE be affected is Dust is a flop?


The games don't require each other to work.
That may be technically true at some level. But then what is so compelling about the EVE - Dust 514 relationship? All marketing materials blur the line between both IPs to such an extent that it seems absurd that CCP believes there is no interdependency.

What is the risk to the EVE IP should players find that the number of available Dust mercenaries is limited or non-existent after the console title is released?

What if the **** that Dust mercs is supposed to attack doesn't have enough value to EVE players and potential points of conflict go uncontested?

Lastly, at what point will both application and database layers be upgraded to handle the data and relationship between the two gaming platforms? How will CCP ensure that these additional bits and parts do not impact the PC side of things?

Gypsy RoseLee
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:39:00 - [143]
 

I would never trust Sony with my personal information, you just guaranteed that I'll never play Dust 514. The direction you have taken Eve Online in the last couple years, your disregard for personal privacy and security when deploying the new forums was as bad, if not worse than Sony's recent security breaches.

All three of my paid accounts as of now are canceled. Vote with your wallets people, how else will CCP get the message.

Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:41:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: Gypsy RoseLee
All three of my paid accounts as of now are canceled. Vote with your wallets people, how else will CCP get the message.


Can I have your stuff?

Ophelia Crotchmore
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:41:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: ysomad2

so will there be a monthly fee? because this game looks uber cool, but I’m not sure if I can afford a monthly fee


CCP Shadow:

There will not be a monthly fee to play DUST 514. The game will be supported by virtual goods sales, but of course you can play the game and buy gear with the currency you earn in-game through your successes in combat.


No monthly fee = AWESOME Very Happy
Looking forward to Dust.


I've seen lots of people saying Sony's security is why they wont get Dust and it seems that they would prefer it on xbox live but - it makes no sense when you think about it.

Microsoft has not been able to make any versions of Windows, Internet Explorer or Office completely secure after many versions/patches/years.
Why assume Microsoft made Xbox Live 100% secure even when they not be able to do it with any other product ever?
Live could have been hacked 100 times and you just haven't been told.

PSN security will be just as good or better then Xbox Live's since Sony toughened it up.


To more important issues:
Will Dust support Keyboard/Mouse on PS3?

Max Gades
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:44:00 - [146]
 

Edited by: Max Gades on 07/06/2011 04:45:20
The airnt currently comment in CCP Fallouts reply to my eailer post gives me no reassurance at all what so ever... another question though the PNS account or what ever for dust on sony will that require any of the same information that we already have in order to pay eve? if the answer is yes then yeah we just made full circle

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:46:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Gypsy RoseLee
I would never trust Sony with my personal information, you just guaranteed that I'll never play Dust 514. The direction you have taken Eve Online in the last couple years, your disregard for personal privacy and security when deploying the new forums was as bad, if not worse than Sony's recent security breaches.

All three of my paid accounts as of now are canceled. Vote with your wallets people, how else will CCP get the message.



Did you even read the thread. Your info is safe.

Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:47:00 - [148]
 

Stuff I want to know:

-How "real time" are we talking?
Can i fire from orbit as we've seen in 2 vids now, and how easy is it to assplode ships in orbit?

-How many items are going to be Aurum-ONLY purchases vs player made?

-How much ISK is going to be injected into the game or will it require eve player donations for incentive?

-How are teams decided? How are matches created? What if no planets are contested in eve?

-On that note, is this for Sov, for wars, for FW, for the destruction of PI mods only?

-Can I, as the person that probably installed the anti-dread gun on the planet, use it on my own? What is the range on such a weapon, dmg, tracking, etc.
Assumption: bombardment requires Dust dudes to place beacon to blow up crap on surface, and specific ship in orbit will be required to blow up **** in orbit from the surface, thus the dust-benefits-eve end of the spectrum.

-What's to stop me from flooding a 64 player map with people I know filling both sides and just letting the planet get crushed?

-Can I, as a lone wolf, join ANY battle going on, or am I required to have an interest in the fight (I.E. be in a corp that is either attacking or defending?)

-Will Dust have mouse and keyboard support? (Def a necessity for peeps like me that hate console FPS's but are still excited bout Dust).

Della Monk
Broski Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:47:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Oberine Noriepa
Also, to what extent will the PlayStation Vita's role play in all of this?


My money's on a beefed-up version of the various apps that exist for eve. Skills, fittings, equipment, eve gate(ha), in-game chat so that you can actually get console players coordinated when they aren't at their console, etc.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:51:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Della Monk
Originally by: Oberine Noriepa
Also, to what extent will the PlayStation Vita's role play in all of this?


My money's on a beefed-up version of the various apps that exist for eve. Skills, fittings, equipment, eve gate(ha), in-game chat so that you can actually get console players coordinated when they aren't at their console, etc.



well.. considering the Vita can run PS3 games... It might just be a mobile version of dust to be honest.


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