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CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:38:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: TERROI2iST

Will there be a clan ladder? and private/custom rooms?


CCP Shadow:

More info about these aspects of DUST 514 will be touched upon in dev blogs at http://www.DUST514.com in the coming months, leading up to beta and launch.

GrayLensman
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:39:00 - [92]
 

CCP's decision to make Dust 514 a PS3 exlusive title is just beyond speechless. I am a loyal CCP customer for over 5 years with 3 accounts. I am sure there are many legitimate (in the Dust 514 game designer minds) reasons for choosing PS3. However, there are many XBOX fans amongst the EVE fan-base who will legitimately remain unconvinced about CCP's decision.

The fact that CCP and NVIDIA have become significant partners in advancing EVE's eye candy (aka PC-based), just plays counter-intuitive to abandoning any console relationship with Microsoft. Meaning, it plays to your advantage to max-out the PC client and leverage Microsoft, and consequently any console partnership and subsequent multi-million member XBOX player base. Of course, this would play against the PS3 console-base too - and that means some will "lose" in the decision.

I certaintly envy the PS3 playerbase amongst the EVE player community, but I will not abandon my XBOX investment. I am truly sorry about this exclusive arrangement - even though as a closet technologist I understand the technical reasons for choosing a single platform. Just give me the opportunity to shoot the bastards in my PC client.

I still wish CCP all the best - I have no idea what I would do without EVE.


Zorkin
Minmatar
ACME INK
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:41:00 - [93]
 

I was interested to see how Dust would be and integrate in with Eve. However, being a PS3 exclusive is IMO a god awful idea and CCP should be flamed for being stupid in making a decision like this. Talk about reducing your window for more players and choosing a system with serious security flaws. I sure as hell will not be purchasing a PS3 for Dust and will despise CCP (Only with Dust) for ruining a potentially great idea of integrating Eve and Dust.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:41:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: AsuraCZ

Hi, I am Eve Player and PS3 owner and have been waiting for Dust for a looooong time :). Any news on the beta? Will the sign-ups be on dust website? Will eve players be preferred? Will I need Playstation Plus to be in beta?


CCP Shadow:

Itís too soon to reveal the beta details but we certainly do want EVE Online players in beta.

Higgs Bison
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:41:00 - [95]
 

How will EVE be affected is Dust is a flop?

Stark Thunder
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:42:00 - [96]
 

Maybe I'm being an idiot but i cant get the trailer from E3 to play on the dust site

CCP Sreegs

Posted - 2011.06.07 03:42:00 - [97]
 

I answered some questions about security here. tl;dr We're not sharing any information with them.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:43:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Kyuss1979

Iím soooo disappointed that this is a PS3 exclusive!!! Why no PC version??? What happens when the PS3 platform ends?? As a current EVE player, i think itís a big mistake on CCPís part to exclude PC users from being able to take control of this aspect of THEIR game universe.

I will say this though, DUST 514 looks absolutely stunning!!!!


CCP Shadow:

Thanks Kyuss. And our goal is really to extend the EVE universe to a whole new group of gamers, and of course weíre hoping a great number of EVE Online players also get in on the action in DUST 514.

Benilopax
Gallente
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:46:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: REGIS_MARK_V

One more question. When will Dust514.com forums go live?


CCP Shadow:

That will tie in with EVE Gate, but I canít provide an ETA on this yet.


My question: What are you doing up at this time of night? Unless you are in Atlanta, or Shanghai...

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:48:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: ysomad2

so will there be a monthly fee? because this game looks uber cool, but Iím not sure if I can afford a monthly fee


CCP Shadow:

There will not be a monthly fee to play DUST 514. The game will be supported by virtual goods sales, but of course you can play the game and buy gear with the currency you earn in-game through your successes in combat.

Max Gades
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:49:00 - [101]
 

Edited by: Max Gades on 07/06/2011 03:53:25
why am i going to buy a game thats with a company that cant keep its online server safe from hacking or keep it up and online? second is the dust 514 server going to be just like the sony online server? supposably unhackable? thanks i like keeping my personal information as my own. so answer the question of secruirty for dust514 and i might consider having second thoughs of no bother waisting money for another game system just to play it exclusivly... answer that please?

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:50:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: barter9

You said it all in your opening statement. This is the kind of shooter game Iíve wanted to play for a long, long time. Star Wars Battlefront had the basic idea and if you go back there have been different versions of the same thing, be they turn based, flight sim or FPS.

One thing I would like (and therefore, like to know) is the option to pilot vehicles either as an individual or as part of a crew. This could be jets, starfighters, command platforms, artillery, tanks, assault vehicles, etc. They could be run solo or with friends as part of a team who share in the spoils of their successful employ. Think this sort of thing will happen or are we looking a little more exclusively at the merc. grunts in this story.

Another question this brings to mind is the connection between your pay as a mercenary and the equipment you can buy from this virtual economy. Will there be a crossover between your digital wallet and the real world cash you put into the game (say a 10 : 1 ratio or something like that)?

Keep moving forward, this is one game that is high on my radar!


CCP Shadow:

About vehicles ó all Iíll say is that every vehicle you saw in the Pale Red Dot trailer was piloted by a player.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:52:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: ysomad2

in the trailer you showed, i couldnít tell if the gun was shooting bullets or if it was an energy weapon. the muzzle flash looked blueish, but the ďbulletsĒ flying through the air looked like actual bullets


CCP Shadow:

Thatís a hybrid weapon that fires plasma bolts, something which should be quite familiar to capsuleers in EVE Online. Particularly if youíve been on the receiving end.

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:54:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Naomi Wildfire on 07/06/2011 03:57:53
Boooring

Quote:
weíre hoping a great number of EVE Online players also get in on the action in DUST 514.


Well, its PS3 exclusive which is a pretty clear statement against EVE Players.

I once was kinda excited about that but thats long ago, the footage doesnt look that special and i dont think it will be very successfull. To be honest, i think it will affect EVE in a negative way.

Versuvius Marii
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:55:00 - [105]
 

CCP, maker of game that crashes every single week and adds more bugs than they fix.
Sony, creator of PSN - access credit card details here, that is if you can get online.

Match made in heaven? Twisted Evil

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:56:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Lord Luz
well dust went from a must have to a pass for me. sorry ccp but you lost my $60. i hope your ps3 exclusive deal was a good one

Well, if by 'good' you mean sony weren't '****s' about restrictions like MS, then yes.

MS doesn't allow any game to communicate outside of the XBL network, so if they were to make it for xbox it wouldn't actually be connected to TQ.

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2011.06.07 03:57:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Benilopax


My question: What are you doing up at this time of night? Unless you are in Atlanta, or Shanghai...


Shadow is in Shanghai :)

Max Gades
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:57:00 - [108]
 

Edited by: Max Gades on 07/06/2011 04:01:46
Edited by: Max Gades on 07/06/2011 03:59:48
BUMPS FOR THIS Versuvius Marii <-VERY WELL PUT.

notice how every post of secruity that been brought us has been ignored.....

and agreed $60 less from may pocket. but more like $400+ if i was to even bother to play dust because i'd have to get a ps3 and there isnt a point because ps4 is what next year?

oh and another question CCP is the EVE players accounts going to be in any RELATION CONNECTED TO THE PLAYSTATION NETWORK?

OwlManAtt
Gallente
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:58:00 - [109]
 

It's extremely disappointing to hear that DUST will be a Playstation exclusive. I'm not interested in doing business with a company as astoundingly bad at protecting their customers as they have proven to be.

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:59:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Higgs Bison
How will EVE be affected is Dust is a flop?


Why do you ignore this question btw, it is very important.

Nac MacFeegle
Argyll Manufacturing
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:59:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Salpun
Originally by: Nac MacFeegle
This message is for Mr. Pťtursson directly.

Sir, I believe that PS3 exclusivity is the biggest mistake that you could have made, especially in light of the problems that Sony has had lately with their online platform. Also, I have an XBox 360, and was looking forward to taking part in the defence (or other activities) of my planetary interests. Bluntly, there is no way in hell I am purchasing a PS3 to do this.

All I want now, in light of this disappointing announcement, is a guarantee, BOTH personal and as an executive of CCP, that my EVE Online account information will NOT be shared, in any way shape or form, with Sony or its affiliates. I have absolutely NO trust in their information security, and I will NOT trust them to have access to my personal information. Without this guarantee, I will cancel my accounts and INSIST on ALL of my information to be completely and irreversably purged from ALL datastores that CCP has.

Edited by: CCP Sreegs on 07/06/2011 02:50:37

Originally by: Bloodthirsty Reaver
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Originally by: Token Afrodude
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Originally by: Nac MacFeegle
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Despite the fail exclusivity... I want a post from CCP High Command committing that their EVE Online user data will not be shared in any way, shape, or form with Sony. They CANNOT be trusted with this data, and if I cannot get this guarantee, I will be insisting on a complete purge of my accounts from CCP's systems. With lawyers, if necessary.
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This.
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Agreed

Anyone else noticing that CCP hasn't posted anything at all about this? Almost depressing.
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I can't follow every thread on the subject but I will say this. Today we're not sharing any information with them. If we did we'd be obligated to tell you so in our privacy agreements or other legal agreements, especially if this data changes national boundaries.

:edit: and by information I mean your personal data of course.



The security head at CCP has already posted on the matter.



And until I see a press release, or a front-page-announced blog entry from someone who matters, I will not be satisified. The clock is ticking, CCP. Do you want the money from the people who are legitimately concerned abot this?

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:59:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Hublebubble

Looks impressive, and I have been following since FF 2009. <3

I demand you put the EVE Future Vision on the Dust website.

My question:
1)Will Dust use the new EVE-gate forums (Which are currently being worked on)? I want to be able to talk on official forums about dust!

2) Will there be a Dustelopedia or will it share the evelopedia?

4)Player Skills
In EVE, skills were obtained over time through the training queue. Will something similar exist in Dust, or will skill progression occur from battles and experience?

Thank you for answering our questions, from your NO. 1 fansite ;)


CCP Shadow:

Hey Hublebubble,

Iíll take a stab at what I can here.

DUST 514 will be tied in with EVE Gate further down the road.

DUST 514 on EVElopedia Ė I honestly donít have the answer on that just yet. Itís something thatís still being discussed.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:01:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: DICard

Ive been a Eve player for a little over a year, and i must say the game continues to get better and better. Dust 514 looks to be a truly amazing game. Have you guys ever considered having Dust players controlled by one Eve player to board another Eve players ship to fight over control of the ship because that would just be down right AMAZING!!!(and give a new definition to piracy)


CCP Shadow:

Ideas of this nature were discussed at the past EVE Online Fanfest in Reykjavik. Needless to say, we loved what we heard, but at this time ship boarding is not what weíre focused on. DUST 514 is focused on planetary combat.


CCP Sreegs

Posted - 2011.06.07 04:02:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Max Gades
Edited by: Max Gades on 07/06/2011 03:53:25
why am i going to buy a game thats with a company that cant keep its online server safe from hacking or keep it up and online? second is the dust 514 server going to be just like the sony online server? supposably unhackable? thanks i like keeping my personal information as my own. so answer the question of secruirty for dust514 and i might consider having second thoughs of no bother waisting money for another game system just to play it exclusivly... answer that please?


There is no such thing as completely unhackable, there are merely degrees of hackability. Anyone telling you otherwise is blowing rays of sunshine in your eye. That's merely an academic statement. We will speak more about the interaction between EVE and Dust in the near future as it becomes more final.

As I stated here http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1523611&page=3#88 we aren't currently planning on pushing any of your EVE related information to Sony.

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:02:00 - [115]
 

Edited by: Salpun on 07/06/2011 04:11:26
Edited by: Salpun on 07/06/2011 04:04:28
The only reponse that is needed was reposted from another thread by me on the last page.

CCP Sceegs did answer the question himself like 10 posts up but deleated his post after he saw my post.

All acounts will connect directly to CCP servers when money trasanctions are needed.

:edit: Sceegs beats me to the punchShocked
Thanks for the responses and keep up the good work.

CCP Sreegs

Posted - 2011.06.07 04:04:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Max Gades
Edited by: Max Gades on 07/06/2011 04:01:46
Edited by: Max Gades on 07/06/2011 03:59:48
BUMPS FOR THIS Versuvius Marii <-VERY WELL PUT.

notice how every post of secruity that been brought us has been ignored.....

and agreed $60 less from may pocket. but more like $400+ if i was to even bother to play dust because i'd have to get a ps3 and there isnt a point because ps4 is what next year?

oh and another question CCP is the EVE players accounts going to be in any RELATION CONNECTED TO THE PLAYSTATION NETWORK?


I've actually responded to every security-related question I've seen so I'm not sure what you mean about being ignored. The answer to your question may now be found linked thrice in this thread and again NOW

CCP Sreegs

Posted - 2011.06.07 04:06:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Nac MacFeegle



And until I see a press release, or a front-page-announced blog entry from someone who matters, I will not be satisified. The clock is ticking, CCP. Do you want the money from the people who are legitimately concerned abot this?


You wound me :(

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:06:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: DICard

Ive been a Eve player for a little over a year, and i must say the game continues to get better and better. Dust 514 looks to be a truly amazing game. Have you guys ever considered having Dust players controlled by one Eve player to board another Eve players ship to fight over control of the ship because that would just be down right AMAZING!!!(and give a new definition to piracy)


CCP Shadow:

Ideas of this nature were discussed at the past EVE Online Fanfest in Reykjavik. Needless to say, we loved what we heard, but at this time ship boarding is not what weíre focused on. DUST 514 is focused on planetary combat.



Ship boarding would kill the EVE many players joined for, i dont want to care about FPS when i only want to play with Spaceships. Its already bad enough to force EVE Players to rely on a Console FPS game.


Quote:
How will EVE be affected is Dust is a flop?

Stop ignoring it.
Please, everyone ask this question so it doesnt get ignored any further!

Nac MacFeegle
Argyll Manufacturing
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:07:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Salpun
The only reponse that is needed was reposted from another thread by me on the last page.

CCP Screggs did answer the question himself like 10 posts up but deleated his post after he saw my post.

All acounts will connect directly to CCP servers when money trasanctions are needed.


ANYTHING that involves transfer of personal data to/from Sony needs to be announced publically, NOW. They have proven themselves incapable recently of securing that kind of data.

And by "announcing", I mean by public press release, not something easily buried in a forum.

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.07 04:07:00 - [120]
 

Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara on 07/06/2011 04:51:37
As I type this post, the dust514.com site is still trying to load in to my browser. Console kiddies won't stand for such sluggish performance. Razz Rolling Eyes

I loved playing SOE's Planetside on my PC eight years ago. Thankfully, that account information is now inaccurate and out-of-date. What steps are CCP and Sony taking to ensure better user account security than what was in-place at Sony earlier this year? What steps is CCP Games taking to ensure that its existing user base isn't subject to the effects of concentrated 'revenge' attacks on its infrastructure?

And are you guys joking when it comes to introducing the existing EVE Gate interface to the wider gaming public? That kluge of a social networking site is embarrassing on so many different levels. Do yourselves justice and bring in some external usability and information architecture professionals (not to mention Internet security specialists) to work w/your internal team on that thing before opening the console user floodgates.

EDIT: What is CCP Games doing to ensure that the rampant meta-gaming, i.e., hacking, that takes place against 3rd-party hosted forums and other Internet-based assets will not migrate over to the CCP-hosted EVE Gate systems?


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