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Narkhana
Gallente
Infinium Trading Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.07 02:51:00 - [31]
 

Yay, I'm glad my subscription money is subsidizing the development of two games (Dust and World of Darkness) that I either cannot play (Xbox FTW) or won't play (vampires are so passe). Yes CCP, I'm very grateful you're not putting my money back into the game I'm paying for, I didn't want it to get better. Thanks.Neutral


RutilusUnus
Posted - 2011.06.07 02:52:00 - [32]
 

The trailer was amazing. I'm hoping that the planet shooting back at the dreadnought wasn't simply for show.

CCP. Make this game great. Take your time in releasing it and DO NOT RUSH IT. If it were to take another year then so be it. This game has the potential to change FPS games.

Super Mommabear
Posted - 2011.06.07 02:52:00 - [33]
 

Are you trying to save PS3 and be like haloLaughing

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.06.07 02:53:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: MotherMoon on 07/06/2011 02:53:35
Originally by: Narkhana
Yay, I'm glad my subscription money is subsidizing the development of two games (Dust and World of Darkness) that I either cannot play (Xbox FTW) or won't play (vampires are so passe). Yes CCP, I'm very grateful you're not putting my money back into the game I'm paying for, I didn't want it to get better. Thanks.Neutral




So it's bull**** that when you buy street fighter o the xbox, your money goes into making megaman legends for the 3DS?

grow up



also let me add I'm glad it's on ps3 simply for the fact they will let you release it in beta.

Hexxx
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.07 02:54:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Khyron Malafactor
Edited by: Khyron Malafactor on 07/06/2011 02:49:21
Why one platform, I can see picking just one of the consoles to keep development costs down. However I cannot see why no PC support?! Especially since it is the platform that made you. Not everyone owns a PC, 360, and PS3 - most only really have one gaming platform to afford. Also with the limited number of PS3 players what happens when the new "hotness" wears off or like someone else stated the PS4 comes out (same would go for 360)? Are we left with ghost planets? This really needs at least a PC version also - hell with the way the young generation cycles shooters I would hit every platform you could stick it on that would work...


I've read about this actually...if you put even below average PC gamers against great console gamers, the console gamers will get completely slaughtered. No, not because of their "l33t" skills, it's a matter of controls. The mouse + keyboard combo is incredibly powerful and provides much better movement and aiming than any console controller. It's the primary reason I play counter-strike instead of Halo (that and 12 year old kids screaming racist insults at each other).

That said, the console market is HUGE. Really huge. Bigger than you think it is huge.

Rusko Jenkins
Posted - 2011.06.07 02:54:00 - [36]
 

ps3 only.. really.. comon cpp, xbox is made by microsoft, a computer company,

u can get it on both consoles im sure...make it happen dammit!


Sordeo Regius
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.07 02:57:00 - [37]
 

PS3 only? 514 won't be on my shopping list. Way to ruin an MMO ccp.

Angle elnA
Posted - 2011.06.07 02:58:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Angle elnA on 07/06/2011 03:03:21

El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.07 02:59:00 - [39]
 

A partnership with Sony, this will end well......

LordSwift
Caldari
The Riot Act
Sacra Cupola
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:00:00 - [40]
 

Well their goes my huge excitement for dust 514 right out the window. Thank you CCP guess il just stick with eve since i wont be buying a ps3 anytime soon.pfft

Roman Truth
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:02:00 - [41]
 

YOU BASTARDS!

That's all I have to say, also I wont be playing Dust 514.

Khyron Malafactor
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:03:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Hexxx
Originally by: Khyron Malafactor
Edited by: Khyron Malafactor on 07/06/2011 02:49:21
Why one platform, I can see picking just one of the consoles to keep development costs down. However I cannot see why no PC support?! Especially since it is the platform that made you. Not everyone owns a PC, 360, and PS3 - most only really have one gaming platform to afford. Also with the limited number of PS3 players what happens when the new "hotness" wears off or like someone else stated the PS4 comes out (same would go for 360)? Are we left with ghost planets? This really needs at least a PC version also - hell with the way the young generation cycles shooters I would hit every platform you could stick it on that would work...


I've read about this actually...if you put even below average PC gamers against great console gamers, the console gamers will get completely slaughtered. No, not because of their "l33t" skills, it's a matter of controls. The mouse + keyboard combo is incredibly powerful and provides much better movement and aiming than any console controller. It's the primary reason I play counter-strike instead of Halo (that and 12 year old kids screaming racist insults at each other).

That said, the console market is HUGE. Really huge. Bigger than you think it is huge.


Correct, in fact MS tried this with a game called Shadowrun and the PC people ate them alive. Hell they even tried to "gimp" the PC players by making there screen blur when you turned really fast. Also you are correct the console market is huge; however, the PS3 is only a portion of it. Plus there are so many shooters out there and people jump from FPS to FPS like changing underwear. With a day a hot FPS can be dead. I just think it needs a bigger pool to pull from...

Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:04:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Hayaishi on 07/06/2011 03:07:08
Let me be the first in saying

**** YEAH!

Also, everyone who is mad about PS only. It's Microsoft's fault for having such a constrictive business model.

The Xbox live infrastructure is not for "free" stuff like DUST. It's "Pay" or "no game". So CCP went "No thanks!" and moved right along to the next best (and inevitable anyway) thing.

Tu Ko
Predator's Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:04:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Tu Ko on 07/06/2011 03:19:42
Still is collosial waste of every measurable resource. The FPS in every aspect has been done to death. You not going to convince console players who are very used to clicking their machine off after 30 minutes ~ 1 hour to avail themselves to a persistant warfront. Thats like asking skateboarders to ride cross-country. This project proves that CCP doesn't understand what players are going to do with game mechanics.

If the game is based around 30 minute objects great, but this means that the console player base is going to base achievement off K/D ratios and have very little need for cohesive strategy, and the EVE Player (the contractor) is going to have to manipulate the contracts individually to produce an effective battleplan against the enemy. Which means the EVE player in question basically stops playing eve to set all that up.

If the developers go the reverse course where the console player sets his own open ended objectives as corps and alliance do in EVE, then there is going to have to be a workable economy for them to build and improve their empire. If those empires become self sustaining without EVE players giving them resources then what will be console players need of the connection to the EVE universe?

In the end we have this ultra thin margin of dependence and irrelevance. Given CCP inability to move quickly or thoughly in solving exploitive mechanics in Eve why would anyone assume that with divided attentions they'll do better on another game.

In conclusion I would like to throw down the gauntlet on this constant push to run away from EvE- The BETA and run around the conference halls pretending to have bona-fides as the ultimate sci-fi MMO. CCP has yet to really deliever much more than grindable missions and open world PVP. Anything that got more complex FW, POS, Treaties, Exploration has yet to be fully realized and stand as pot marks and not credit to your developer portfolio.

Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:05:00 - [45]
 

I would like to bring one of my Machariels up to a hollow asteroid or derelict space station ect., and dispatch an 'avatar' of mine to explore it. This to me is an ultimate experience. I'm not too bothered about the platform(s) required to do this.

Gaius Secrteus
Special Service
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:07:00 - [46]
 

Great Sony--- so we could look forward to having our personal account information stolen?

Not buying any PS3 crap. You fail again CCP.

Super Mommabear
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:07:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Tu Ko
Still is collosial waste of every measurable resource. The FPS in every aspect has been done to death. You not going to convince console players who are very used to clicking their machine off after 30 minutes ~ 1 hour to avail themselves to a persistant warfront. Thats like asking skateboarders to ride cross-country. This project proves that CCP doesn't understand what players are going to do with game mechanics.

If the game is based around 30 minute objects great, but this means that the console player base is going to base achievement off K/D ratios and have very little need for cohesive strategy, and the EVE Player (the contractor) is going to have to manipulate the contracts individually to produce an effective battleplan against the enemy. Which means the EVE player in question basically stops playing eve to set all that up.

If the developers go the reverse course where the console player sets his own open ended objectives as corps and alliance do in EVE, then there is going to have to be a workable economy for them to build and improve their empire. If those empires become self sustaining without EVE players giving them resources then what will be console players need of the connection to the EVE universe?

In the end we have this ultra thin margin of dependence and irrelevance. Given CCP inability to move quickly or thoughly in solving exploitive mechanics in Eve why would anyone assume that with divided attentions they'll do better on another game.

In conclusion I would like to throw down the gauntlet on this constant push to run away from EvE- The BETA and run around the conference halls pretending to have bona-fides as the ultimate sci-fi MMO. CCP never has yet to really deliever much more than grindable missions and open world PVP. Anything that got more complex FW, POS, Treaties, Exploration has yet to be fully realized and stand as pot marks and not credit to your developer portfolio.


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Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:09:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Tu Ko
Still is collosial waste of every measurable resource. The FPS in every aspect has been done to death. You not going to convince console players who are very used to clicking their machine off after 30 minutes ~ 1 hour to avail themselves to a persistant warfront. Thats like asking skateboarders to ride cross-country. This project proves that CCP doesn't understand what players are going to do with game mechanics.

If the game is based around 30 minute objects great, but this means that the console player base is going to base achievement off K/D ratios and have very little need for cohesive strategy, and the EVE Player (the contractor) is going to have to manipulate the contracts individually to produce an effective battleplan against the enemy. Which means the EVE player in question basically stops playing eve to set all that up.

If the developers go the reverse course where the console player sets his own open ended objectives as corps and alliance do in EVE, then there is going to have to be a workable economy for them to build and improve their empire. If those empires become self sustaining without EVE players giving them resources then what will be console players need of the connection to the EVE universe?

In the end we have this ultra thin margin of dependence and irrelevance. Given CCP inability to move quickly or thoughly in solving exploitive mechanics in Eve why would anyone assume that with divided attentions they'll do better on another game.

In conclusion I would like to throw down the gauntlet on this constant push to run away from EvE- The BETA and run around the conference halls pretending to have bona-fides as the ultimate sci-fi MMO. CCP never has yet to really deliever much more than grindable missions and open world PVP. Anything that got more complex FW, POS, Treaties, Exploration has yet to be fully realized and stand as pot marks and not credit to your developer portfolio.


CCP dare to be bold. And with their first break into the console market, They're being very bold indeed. And they will do great.

Pharon Reichter
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:12:00 - [49]
 

Make a bridge between mmos and fps mmos - CHECK
Make a bridge between PC games and CONSOLE GAMES - CHECK
Compleetly **** it up by making it exclusivley available for ONE console - CHECK
Proffit ?

Now srsly how ****ed up can that be ? bridge between pc and consoles and only make it for ONE console ?

Also on the train that wont be playing , also was excited but not going to change my console for it.

- 1 dust player.

El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:12:00 - [50]
 

Everyone needs to understand that CCP in no way was trying to market DUST to those who already play EVE Online. They are trying to get another revenue stream. If they succeed they'll be heralded as genius, if they fail.....

Problem I see is Sony has one of the worst names in the MMO market and thus I have to question why they would partner with them.

The fact the X360 has outsold the Playstation 3 and the Playstation 3 has falling sales compared to the Playstation 2 over the same time period from release makes Sony and the PS3 a curious choice.

Let's hope this isn't a prelude to CCP selling EVE Online to SOE, because that would be a death knell for the game.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:13:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Airwalkinman17

This came out of left field!
It looks like it has a ton of potential.
canít wait to hear/see/read more



CCP Shadow:
There will be plenty more info coming your way in the coming months.

Ordo Akin
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:14:00 - [52]
 

Well cant believe they sold to sony. Xbox has far many more FPS players. Wont have me playing Dusk now.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:14:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: BrooksIsHere

You mentioned PSV support, can you give us any more details? Would this also only be for DUST or could we be looking at also interacting with EVE-Online through the PSV?


CCP Shadow:

At present, those plans are DUST 514-only, but itís still a bit too soon for us to reveal anything concrete with what will be possible.

Pharon Reichter
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:14:00 - [54]
 

So.... why did you do it ? why PS3 only ?

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:15:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: k0wb0y-b33b0p

Will there be a beta before it ships? If so, can you guarantee that Iíll be a part of it? This looks hot.


CCP Shadow:

Weíre not announcing the specifics quite yet, but yes there will be a beta.

Sydney Cartone
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:17:00 - [56]
 

Gratz on the announcement date and the collaboration with Sony. Of course you get the usual whining from the Eve wheenies with whatever decision you make.

I suppose the security issue will be uppermost in everyone's minds, but frankly, I'm not that worried. I expect you'll be taking a
a close look at that. It will be interesting to see how you have decided to integrate the two games - no small fete - to do it well I imagine.






Flesh Slurper
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:17:00 - [57]
 

If only it was on the PC then I would definitely buy it. I personally can't stand playing games on a console.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:18:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Kyuss1979

I will say this though, DUST 514 looks absolutely stunning!!!!


CCP Shadow:

Thanks Kyuss. And our goal is really to extend the EVE universe to a whole new group of gamers, and of course weíre hoping a great number of EVE Online players also get in on the action in DUST 514.

El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:18:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Sydney Cartone
Gratz on the announcement date and the collaboration with Sony. Of course you get the usual whining from the Eve wheenies with whatever decision you make.

I suppose the security issue will be uppermost in everyone's minds, but frankly, I'm not that worried. I expect you'll be taking a
a close look at that. It will be interesting to see how you have decided to integrate the two games - no small fete - to do it well I imagine.








You mean like CCPs close overlook of security on the new forums they shoved out then recalled....

Super Mommabear
Posted - 2011.06.07 03:19:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: k0wb0y-b33b0p

Will there be a beta before it ships? If so, can you guarantee that Iíll be a part of it? This looks hot.


CCP Shadow:

Weíre not announcing the specifics quite yet, but yes there will be a beta.


Where are these quotes coming from, I cant find them Shocked


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