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Dako Semi
Posted - 2011.06.07 13:58:00 - [301]
 

I wish all winers stop complaining and calling names and such to CCP.
They are doing a great job and working there ass off to get the servers up and running.

just my 0.02 ct.
Dako

Amar Azaph
Posted - 2011.06.07 13:58:00 - [302]
 

Originally by: Noriah Naterau
my gawd man!! You all sound like a *****ing woman!! Fix this!! Look at this!! Quit doing this!! Quit doing that!!

Shut the hell up.... A game like this is gonna have its probs, glitches, and everything else!! If this was WOW you would be charged for the update and all the crap that went along with it!!

CCP... awesome!! Thanks for all your hard work! Keep it up man!! I love this game Very Happy


You work for CCP?

fuel2310
Posted - 2011.06.07 13:59:00 - [303]
 

weeeeeeeeeeeeeee iy works im in the game and online again :p
Laughing

Modeaus
Caldari
KiLL On ConTacT
Posted - 2011.06.07 13:59:00 - [304]
 

Good job CCP! Got the server up with 3 mins to spare! :p

Gainard
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:01:00 - [305]
 

Originally by: cyborgen
Good rule to follow in software development:

Take your best case scenario time estimate and multiply by 2 ;)

... this way you leave yourself a bit of buffer and your clients are happy when your implementation is completed early...

You'd think they would have learnt by now lol


They never saw that Star Trek movie where Scotty gave a similar advice to Gordy... Laughing

Damith d'Estelas
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:02:00 - [306]
 

Originally by: jack morrigan
here we go again. i want a refund of my game time.


OK... let's see now... 14.95 Euros a month is approximately 22 USD a month, which, at 30 days @ 24 hours/day, works out at roughly 3 cents per hour. How would you like to receive your 9 cents refund then...?

Consortium Agent
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:03:00 - [307]
 

Edited by: Consortium Agent on 07/06/2011 14:07:37
I've been telling CCP for years to pad their downtimes during client updates. Setting client expectations is a key part of your business. Running an MMO requires near constant attention to details, one of which is setting client expectations.

I've also recommended a number of books for the powers-that-be at CCP to read. Surely if English is the issue you can get a copy in your own native language - title like CMMI for Development, Winning with Software (or pretty much anything else written by Humphrey) - all of these books describe the same basic principles behind driving a successful software development organization. All of these books talk about setting client expectations and understanding the repercussions of slipped deadlines.

Continuing to release crappy, untested patches full of bugs that are self-evident on the testing servers, followed by a lackluster approach to resolving the issues created by the crappy patch, do not bode well with the Eve community at large. Remember - we're your clients and setting our expectations to be 'CCP is surely going to f*ck this up' and 'yeah, 13:30 my @ss!' isn't in the best interest of CCP, yet you continue to do it every single GD time you patch. 'Oh yeah, it'll only take us a couple of hours to deploy a patch' can't possibly cross the minds of anyone who works there unless they're criminally insane. History demonstrates that CCP never releases a bug free update, never releases even the smallest patch on time or within the deployment window CCP calculates and provides to their clients and never clearly communicates with their primary stakeholders - your players. You're sleeping at CMMI Level 1. These are symptoms of a failed process. So, again I suggest someone over at CCP pull their head out of their #ss and pick up a couple good SEI/CMMI books. I know it will again fall on deaf ears, but it makes me feel better having said it, so nyah! :P

Seriously, love the game - hate the executives forcing developers to release crappy untested patches. We expect this kind of behavior from the likes of Microsoft, not from the likes of CCP.

Oh, and one last note since it's kinda pertinent - releasing Dust514 exclusively for the PS3 (and excluding your entire Eve Online PC/Mac user base) is f*cking ******ed. Seriously. It's the worst decision I've seen CCP make since they tried to fix nullsec and made it worse. I understand why you're doing it, it's much easier to focus on a single platform and take advantage of all of it's strengths while avoiding it's weaknesses... but it's a stupid GD reason and you're alienating hundreds of thousands of Eve Online players all over the world. Just my two cents on that.

Who the hell is running that place these days anyway? Fire his @ss! He's not doing CCP any favors. Clearly.

Edit: Apparently being a ****** is a bad thing for Eve forums. Kinda funny if you think about it - I mean, seriously, how many ******s do you think play Eve Online and would be offended by the word ******? Of all the ******ed things CCP does, this is another of the most ******ed. Good thing we don't have to talk about ******ing the timing on our ships here - we'd be ****ed! :P lol

WCPistolPete
Gallente
MacroIntel
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:04:00 - [308]
 

Edited by: WCPistolPete on 07/06/2011 14:07:21
Originally by: This Suxbad
Yes please have people working on regular downtime issues at 3am their time... sure it work out gloriously. Whiney Tards


The game is usually running 23 hours a day. What the hell do you think CCP does if there's a database crash at 4 AM their time? There is obviously staff in the building. And since it's most likely database staff a simple DT for database maintenance can be done any time of day. I doubt the entire staff rolls out of the building at 11:00 UTC and then returns at 11:30 UTC. However, that might explain the need for extended DTs. The line at the coffee shop was just too long. Cool

-1 troll points to you, sir.

Fly safely. If you can't fly safely you'll always have self-destruct. Very Happy

e: spelling correction

Coolmer
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:06:00 - [309]
 

Originally by: Noriah Naterau
my gawd man!! You all sound like a *****ing woman!! Fix this!! Look at this!! Quit doing this!! Quit doing that!!

Shut the hell up.... A game like this is gonna have its probs, glitches, and everything else!! If this was WOW you would be charged for the update and all the crap that went along with it!!

CCP... awesome!! Thanks for all your hard work! Keep it up man!! I love this game Very Happy


i see u like to play female characters, so u know all about female population ... nice
CCP is doing that wrong in the last few years, patch after patch, glitch after glitch, bug after bug, extended downtime, and name it ....
it is time to reconsider about CCP politics and get rid (like u say) woman thinking, when they stop production in direction of COSMO EVE: World of Barbie then in eve again will be logic and all will make sense ...

Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:06:00 - [310]
 

Undocked - nothing happened woo, its fixed ty CCP! Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy

Jumped through first gate - graphics drivers crash and client stops responding Rolling Eyes

gg CCP, you got me

ISquishWorms
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:06:00 - [311]
 

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "repair.py", line 206, in <module>
File "updateSelf.pyc", line 94, in UpdateSelf_nt
File "updateSelf.pyc", line 21, in ReadUpdateInfo
File "repairTool\repairTools.pyc", line 250, in GetRepairInfo
File "repairTool\repairTools.pyc", line 157, in SafeUrlOpen
urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found: 'http://eveonline.com/patches/repair_info.txt'

Patch won't install and repair.exe not working see above log. Any ideas on why and how to fix this?

LeftNut Alpha
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:11:00 - [312]
 

Crashed to desktop twice in less than 10 minutes...what was fixed?

Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:11:00 - [313]
 

LMAO... a few jumps and meeeh!!

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 6/7/2011 9:07:58 AM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Gaming
Description:
Faulting application name: ExeFile.exe, version: 6.44.26.2931, time stamp: 0x4dda9d38
Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000021e9
Faulting process id: 0xa9c
Faulting application start time: 0x01cc251ab6d3d285
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe
Faulting module path: unknown
Report Id: 8b7edf93-910f-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-06-07T14:07:58.000000000Z" />
<EventRecordID>34882</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Gaming</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>ExeFile.exe</Data>
<Data>6.44.26.2931</Data>
<Data>4dda9d38</Data>
<Data>unknown</Data>
<Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
<Data>00000000</Data>
<Data>c0000005</Data>
<Data>000021e9</Data>
<Data>a9c</Data>
<Data>01cc251ab6d3d285</Data>
<Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe</Data>
<Data>unknown</Data>
<Data>8b7edf93-910f-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

Simanti
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:15:00 - [314]
 

Originally by: Damith d'Estelas
Originally by: jack morrigan
here we go again. i want a refund of my game time.


OK... let's see now... 14.95 Euros a month is approximately 22 USD a month, which, at 30 days @ 24 hours/day, works out at roughly 3 cents per hour. How would you like to receive your 9 cents refund then...?


You note the post was about "game time" not "available time". I suggest that you, along with everyone else on Eve, does not play 24X7. If you are mostly asleep during DT (which most US players ARE), then you lose nothing of your available "game time". If however you play 7 hours a week, and unscheduled DT occurs during that time then a loss of two hours equates to a big percentage of your "game time", even if it is only a small proportion of your theoretical "available time".

Maybe additional DT should be split across different times so we all get a fair share of inturruption to our "available" time. If any of the DT's in the last year had occured between 02:00 and 08:00 eve I would have lost a total of no "game time" even though "available time" would have been reduced by 25% - I suggest for you such a setup would have caused a much bigger loss!

If we are to continue to have unscheduled DT then please can we either a) spread the pain around by using different times or b) add any unscheduled DT to our accounts each month so those of us who get DT in our prime times don't get a disproportionate hit.

Other than that keep up the excelent work on the greatest game in the universe, and I won't now have to mow the lawn until the next unscheduled DT..

Vera Coen
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:20:00 - [315]
 

The sun is no longer an issue with the capacitor; however, the cap, shields, and armor are still difficult to see. Please make them brighter or give an option to do so. I am having to rely on audio alerts in PvP as I cannot judge the values with a glance anymore.

Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:22:00 - [316]
 

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 6/7/2011 9:21:14 AM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Gaming
Description:
Faulting application name: ExeFile.exe, version: 6.44.26.2931, time stamp: 0x4dda9d38
Faulting module name: _trinity_deploy.dll, version: 6.45.26.7202, time stamp: 0x4debd6f5
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x001b8ec1
Faulting process id: 0x768
Faulting application start time: 0x01cc251d9826a2e3
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll
Report Id: 65da1bad-9111-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-06-07T14:21:14.000000000Z" />
<EventRecordID>34884</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Gaming</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>ExeFile.exe</Data>
<Data>6.44.26.2931</Data>
<Data>4dda9d38</Data>
<Data>_trinity_deploy.dll</Data>
<Data>6.45.26.7202</Data>
<Data>4debd6f5</Data>
<Data>c0000005</Data>
<Data>001b8ec1</Data>
<Data>768</Data>
<Data>01cc251d9826a2e3</Data>
<Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe</Data>
<Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll</Data>
<Data>65da1bad-9111-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

fillin77
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:26:00 - [317]
 

My update patch is freezing up.

Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:28:00 - [318]
 

Originally by: Capsuleer Newton
Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 6/7/2011 9:21:14 AM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Gaming
Description:
Faulting application name: ExeFile.exe, version: 6.44.26.2931, time stamp: 0x4dda9d38
Faulting module name: _trinity_deploy.dll, version: 6.45.26.7202, time stamp: 0x4debd6f5
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x001b8ec1
Faulting process id: 0x768
Faulting application start time: 0x01cc251d9826a2e3
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll
Report Id: 65da1bad-9111-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-06-07T14:21:14.000000000Z" />
<EventRecordID>34884</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Gaming</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>ExeFile.exe</Data>
<Data>6.44.26.2931</Data>
<Data>4dda9d38</Data>
<Data>_trinity_deploy.dll</Data>
<Data>6.45.26.7202</Data>
<Data>4debd6f5</Data>
<Data>c0000005</Data>
<Data>001b8ec1</Data>
<Data>768</Data>
<Data>01cc251d9826a2e3</Data>
<Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe</Data>
<Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll</Data>
<Data>65da1bad-9111-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 6/7/2011 9:25:48 AM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Gaming
Description:
Faulting application name: ExeFile.exe, version: 6.44.26.2931, time stamp: 0x4dda9d38
Faulting module name: _trinity_deploy.dll, version: 6.45.26.7202, time stamp: 0x4debd6f5
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x001b8ec1
Faulting process id: 0x1a00
Faulting application start time: 0x01cc251d3bf47833
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll
Report Id: 092cc8b2-9112-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-06-07T14:25:48.000000000Z" />
<EventRecordID>34886</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Gaming</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>ExeFile.exe</Data>
<Data>6.44.26.2931</Data>
<Data>4dda9d38</Data>
<Data>_trinity_deploy.dll</Data>
<Data>6.45.26.7202</Data>
<Data>4debd6f5</Data>
<Data>c0000005</Data>
<Data>001b8ec1</Data>
<Data>1a00</Data>
<Data>01cc251d3bf47833</Data>
<Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe</Data>
<Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll</Data>
<Data>092cc8b2-9112-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

kala Alar
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:30:00 - [319]
 

Edited by: kala Alar on 07/06/2011 14:30:41
game is still crashing when running two clients Rolling Eyes

Kieth Lemon
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:37:00 - [320]
 

Game is still crashing when jumping gates running 2 clients. this sux. 10 days of not being able to use my second account.... i think i want a refund of my second accounts subscription. im paying for a product i cant use. unplayable.
Ccp your gonna lose my 2 accounts as a cutomer if this isnt fixed asap. 10 freaking days man grrrrrrrrMad

Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:39:00 - [321]
 

Originally by: kala Alar
Edited by: kala Alar on 07/06/2011 14:30:41
game is still crashing when running two clients Rolling Eyes

NOPE, not just 2 or more clients, just one running but minimized and it crashed...
Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 6/7/2011 9:35:38 AM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Gaming
Description:
Faulting application name: ExeFile.exe, version: 6.44.26.2931, time stamp: 0x4dda9d38
Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0xbff1b6e1
Faulting process id: 0xbc0
Faulting application start time: 0x01cc251e8201d5a2
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe
Faulting module path: unknown
Report Id: 68d5e0f0-9113-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-06-07T14:35:38.000000000Z" />
<EventRecordID>34888</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Gaming</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>ExeFile.exe</Data>
<Data>6.44.26.2931</Data>
<Data>4dda9d38</Data>
<Data>unknown</Data>
<Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
<Data>00000000</Data>
<Data>c0000005</Data>
<Data>bff1b6e1</Data>
<Data>bc0</Data>
<Data>01cc251e8201d5a2</Data>
<Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe</Data>
<Data>unknown</Data>
<Data>68d5e0f0-9113-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

Gainard
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:40:00 - [322]
 

Two clients running (win XP) no problem.

phoenix0269
Gallente
Degrees of Freedom
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:45:00 - [323]
 

well still cant center or get locator tabs on bm during scanning and still 1 clock locking and still no launcher/turret sounds good patch

Navetse Sasen
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:52:00 - [324]
 

Not all problems the eve exe file shows are problems with the eve exe file.

Developers usually embedd errors in codes to avoid causing worse problems when one problem with YOUR computer prevents it from working properly. This happens often because:
- Another application uses resources EVE use and dont have the courtesy to ask for it first (seems a joke, but avoiding tech talk, that is exactly what happens).
- Your machine doesnt have resources for EVE, or for "double EVE". One step is to open the Task Manager and at the performance tab look how much of your CPU and Memory is used when running one, and then two instances of EVE.
- Remeber that EVE uses tons of services and processes that arent in EVE exe, and when EVE calls one of them and THESE processes or services result in error, the error will most likely be attributed to EVE exe, not the faulty or otherwise broken process called.

I am now running 4 EVEs and testing theses issues, and it seems most problems are solved. When I try run 5, it get laggy, but still working. When I open a 6th EVE, it crashes, because my PC CANT HANDLE that much. So if you have problems running more than one instance of EVE, make sure your PC can handle that much. Minimal or Recommended hardware are based on only one instance of EVE running.

Although the carbon thingy really made EVE a little more heavy, I still running 4 instances the same way I used to run before. And my distribution missions done by the 4 at the same time never resulted in crashes.

Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.07 14:56:00 - [325]
 

> if this helps <

All my crashes since 1.6 Patch, aside from 1:
Conditions:
1]Client that crashed was minimized;
2]I was autopiloting several jumps;
3]Crash always occurs right after jumping;

One oddball, my toons [2 clients] were orbiting each other within 2500m of a gate, and both clients hanged simultaneously, maybe affected by someone jumping.. >.<

Megalift
Omni Tech Engineering
Needless Friends
Posted - 2011.06.07 15:02:00 - [326]
 

Corp Wallet is still broke! Please fix it.

You made it so the Division colume can be sorted alphanumericaly forward or reverse, or you can sort by isk amount. Thats very cool, cept you cant sort it like it was, by division number. I like the way it was and would like to sort by division number.

Navetse Sasen
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.07 15:03:00 - [327]
 

When jumping, you are actually changing the session you have in one "instance" of a solar system to another. You have an option to observe the session changes, doing it can be helpful. The simultaneous change coupled with any Internet issue you have, or if your Internet cant handle it properly, will result in a crash.

fillin77
Posted - 2011.06.07 15:08:00 - [328]
 

When i start the client and it gives me the update patch it starts to run it then freezes and i cant update it????

Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.07 15:12:00 - [329]
 

Edited by: Capsuleer Newton on 07/06/2011 15:23:12
Originally by: Navetse Sasen
When jumping, you are actually changing the session you have in one "instance" of a solar system to another. You have an option to observe the session changes, doing it can be helpful. The simultaneous change coupled with any Internet issue you have, or if your Internet cant handle it properly, will result in a crash.


:) i have i7 860, 5770 ATI card, 8GB RAM, 1000 GB Drive, Win 7 64 Home Premium, Comcast [ISP], hardwired to my router, can easily stream Netflix to 2 PCs and still play Eve without skipping a bit, both clients barely utilizes 10% of the CPU, and on average i can't even use more than 20% of my CPU in normal use and just below 50% of my RAM, so i don't really think that's an issue on my internet connection or my system :))

Furthermore, if it was the case, why won't it crash when i warp to 0 [manual]? even with 2 clients, as long as i warp to 0, i don't seem to crash, maybe i just don't linger that long near gates to get the client crash...

WCPistolPete
Gallente
MacroIntel
Posted - 2011.06.07 15:13:00 - [330]
 

Originally by: Simanti
If you are mostly asleep during DT (which most US players ARE


You ASSume way too much here.

11:00-11:30 UTC = 7-7:30 AM Eastern Daylight. East Coast, Central and hell even Mountain and Pacific guys (and girls) will be awake depending upon work/family/party schedules. If it's a day off meant/reserved for playing EVE then it's a big loss. I work a flexible schedule but still get up early enough every day to get at least an hour of time on the server before DT.

-1 troll points to you, sir.


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