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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2011.06.06 04:44:00 - [31]
 

I think this speaks more for you (Atticus) than anyone else in this thread, getting turned on by cleavage in a computer game.

But hey, if I can win over you by flashing some space barbie skin, I'd do that.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.06 04:52:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Alpheias
I think this speaks more for you (Atticus) than anyone else in this thread, getting turned on by cleavage in a computer game.

But hey, if I can win over you by flashing some space barbie skin, I'd do that.


Like I said...dont take my original comment too literally. My point is that the way character creation is going, immersion is moving more and more away from the original concept of the EVE races. Then again, it may be CCP's intention to re-do the way we view EVE races...I dont know. For now they look more like Earth residents than EVE residents.

No, Im not turned on by computer made cleavage any more than i was by the pleasure hubs..yet CCP removed them due to the game's rating I believe. This may be no different in the long run.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.06.06 04:55:00 - [33]
 

damn you pleasure hubs! I WANT THE PLEASURE HUBS STATION BACK! it was so cool : (

I Love Boobies
Amarr
All Hail Boobies
Posted - 2011.06.06 05:01:00 - [34]
 

There are a lot of boobs in this thread, and not the kind the OP was whining... I mean complaining, oops... I really meant to say discussing. Boobs really bring out the intelligence, or lack of, in a lot of people. Wink

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 05:09:00 - [35]
 

There are lots of people with moderately sized Boobs. Mine are Caldari Boobs, slightly undersized but just as efficient as boobs twice there size and also a bit asymmetrical.

Just like our Glorious Fleet o7

Camron Champagne
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.06.06 05:14:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: I Love Boobies
There are a lot of boobs in this thread, and not the kind the OP was whining... I mean complaining, oops... I really meant to say discussing. Boobs really bring out the intelligence, or lack of, in a lot of people. Wink


Judging by your name your post must a self reflection on the lack of part.

Judging by your picture It's time for you to put the collagen injection syringe down. Your starting to look rather tragic actually.

Ok honey, thanks.

mkint
Posted - 2011.06.06 05:21:00 - [37]
 

just to throw in... imo, video game boobs are distasteful. Not because boobs are distasteful but because the art teams are either so dry, or so profit driven, that they seem to design the boobs first and the body and clothing around them. Whether that's the art team's fault, or the nature of blue balling video game nerds in character creation is debatable. So yes, I do think that the amount of cleavage someone puts into their toon says something about themselves. No, I don't really think everyone should be in a nun's habit. Ideally players would choose to be tasteful and smart. But this is the interwebz.

I Love Boobies
Amarr
All Hail Boobies
Posted - 2011.06.06 05:22:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Camron Champagne


Judging by your name your post must a self reflection on the lack of part.

Judging by your picture It's time for you to put the collagen injection syringe down. Your starting to look rather tragic actually.

Ok honey, thanks.


And you sir... win the prize for the biggest Boob! Congratulations! Enjoy your prize. I know I would if I were you.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.06.06 06:06:00 - [39]
 

LOL


This thread is most funny. Keep it on!

Grey Wind
Posted - 2011.06.06 07:25:00 - [40]
 

Extremists on both sides of feminism are hilarious. But I really find people getting ****ed off over either the presence, or lack, of internet boobies in MMO's. OMG, so we can now look at CG boobies when looking at our characters, and eventually when roaming the stations. I am sure we will all have brain seizures from lack of blood flow since we will all just be big walking erections. Is this seriously something worth complaining over? In reality if someone wants to where a nun **** outfit out in public, they are allowed to do so. Why not extend the same freedoms to the internet? If someone wants to act like an ass and dress like a lady of the night, is it gonna cause serious mental harm to anyone?

On the other hand, people screaming for bigger E-boobs and ****tier costumes are rather pathetic. It's the internet people, it's a CG character you get to move around in a game, do we really have to go completely **** mode and have space nudist colonies before you teenage hormones will be satisfied?

In short, who gives a rats fart if people dress ****ty in game, just avoid them like you do pirates and gate camps, let them have their own lil convents in the game, hopefully they will eventually grow out of it.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.06 07:33:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Grey Wind
Extremists on both sides of feminism are hilarious. But I really find people getting ****ed off over either the presence, or lack, of internet boobies in MMO's. OMG, so we can now look at CG boobies when looking at our characters, and eventually when roaming the stations. I am sure we will all have brain seizures from lack of blood flow since we will all just be big walking erections. Is this seriously something worth complaining over? In reality if someone wants to where a nun **** outfit out in public, they are allowed to do so. Why not extend the same freedoms to the internet? If someone wants to act like an ass and dress like a lady of the night, is it gonna cause serious mental harm to anyone?

On the other hand, people screaming for bigger E-boobs and ****tier costumes are rather pathetic. It's the internet people, it's a CG character you get to move around in a game, do we really have to go completely **** mode and have space nudist colonies before you teenage hormones will be satisfied?

In short, who gives a rats fart if people dress ****ty in game, just avoid them like you do pirates and gate camps, let them have their own lil convents in the game, hopefully they will eventually grow out of it.


The question remains though, is this appropriate for EVE?

Somal Thunder
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.06 07:55:00 - [42]
 

This is a game for adults, not kids, if you're under 13 you're not even allowed to play it. Leave the cleavage alone and stop hating, pitch.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:02:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Somal Thunder
This is a game for adults, not kids, if you're under 13 you're not even allowed to play it. Leave the cleavage alone and stop hating, pitch.


Then why were pleasure hubs removed if this is a game for "adults?"

baltec1
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:06:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Originally by: Somal Thunder
This is a game for adults, not kids, if you're under 13 you're not even allowed to play it. Leave the cleavage alone and stop hating, pitch.


Then why were pleasure hubs removed if this is a game for "adults?"


Because the womans rights mob got involved or something.

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:08:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Somal Thunder
This is a game for adults, not kids, if you're under 13 you're not even allowed to play it. Leave the cleavage alone and stop hating, pitch.

In Ontario it is legal for women to walk around bare chested after the Gwen Jacob court ruling that the act of being topless is not in itself a sexual act or indecent. Pixalated Women and Pictures of Women on the other hand get a 18+ Rating and is considered obscene.

Canada can be a F*cked up place sometimes. Confused

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:14:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Somal Thunder
This is a game for adults, not kids, if you're under 13 you're not even allowed to play it. Leave the cleavage alone and stop hating, pitch.

In Ontario it is legal for women to walk around bare chested after the Gwen Jacob court ruling that the act of being topless is not in itself a sexual act or indecent. Pixalated Women and Pictures of Women on the other hand get a 18+ Rating and is considered obscene.

Canada can be a F*cked up place sometimes. Confused



The act of walking around topless may not be a sexual act or indecent but it does provoke arousal does it not? And that is what makes it indecent.
That is where the issue lies. Otherwise all topless mags are just periodicals, and men buy them for the stories.
A smart lawyer would argue that, that would could be construed as an "assault" on men.

Yes, judges can be very stupid. They practice law but dont know how to apply it to real life.

Khorian
Gallente
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:17:00 - [47]
 

What I learned from this thread:
If a woman gets abused because she was dressed sexy, its her fault. Right? Right guys? What are you, some kind of taliban?!
Cultural victory for the extremists.

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:19:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 06/06/2011 08:26:04
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
I was about to post a comment in another thread when I saw this:

http://image.eveonline.com/Character/191118935_256.jpg
Let me guess..this is an Amarrian Nun, right?
Image changed to URL. Zymurgist

She's a Deitis (like me), you can tell from the eyes and chin .. (I think) Wink

Anyway, do you ever go to the beach? And how is that less tempting than whatever people make their characters look in Incarna (except the thick make-up)? Who cares even if people walk around naked? After all it's your thoughts that cause you to be distracted, not the thing(s) itself.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:22:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Khorian
What I learned from this thread:
If a woman gets abused because she was dressed sexy, its her fault. Right? Right guys? What are you, some kind of taliban?!
Cultural victory for the extremists.


Actually your observation was from just a few posts. This thread is about the level of nudity the character creator allows in EVE now and how it may change/remove traditional views of the EVE races as well as contribute to a WIS scenario where everyone looks like Barbie just came in from the local beach, instead of the EVE universe.

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:26:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 06/06/2011 08:26:29
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

The act of walking around topless may not be a sexual act or indecent but it does provoke arousal does it not? And that is what makes it indecent.

Rolling Eyes Yes I saw this cute guy working on his lawn without a top and in short shorts and I was very aroused. I saw a girl whering a heavy winter coat so I could just see her face, it was cute, aroused.

T*ts are not a sex organ, if everything that makes us aroused was treated as such we should all throw on the Burka's
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

That is where the issue lies. Otherwise all topless mags are just periodicals, and men buy them for the stories.

Yes and Pedicure weekly is also bought for the stories by foot fetishest. If people wanna wack off all the power to them.
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

A smart lawyer would argue that, that would could be construed as an "assault" on men.

I see you are not Lawyer, good to know. Topless of etheir sex should be banned or allowed make up your mind and stop worrying bout what people ********** too.
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

Yes, judges can be very stupid. They practice law but dont know how to apply it to real life.

Well at least they got it right in Ontario when it pertains to Womens bodies.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:26:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 06/06/2011 08:22:49
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Let me guess..this is an Amarrian Nun, right?

She's a Deitis (like me), you can tell from the eyes and chin .. (I think) Wink

Anyway, do you ever go to the beach? Who cares even if people walk around naked? After all it's your thoughts that cause you to be distracted, not the thing(s) itself.



Again, a lot of you are missing the point. I dont care if you walk around naked in real life or otherwise. What I'm saying is does this belong in EVE or does it change the view of Eve races too much?

Many of you are making this personal.

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:30:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 06/06/2011 08:30:35
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Again, a lot of you are missing the point. I dont care if you walk around naked in real life or otherwise. What I'm saying is does this belong in EVE or does it change the view of Eve races too much?

Many of you are making this personal.

"Change the view of Eve races", not really. We may all have our backgrounds but capsuleers seem to have no bounds with their ancestry. Amarr can mission for Gallente Navy and kill Amarr, corps are all made up by all races and bloodlines ..

Imo if you want to RP a nun it's not something racial, CCP should just provide the means to look like one if you so desire. Burkhas in the AUR shop, perhaps? ;)

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:34:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 06/06/2011 08:36:00
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 06/06/2011 08:26:29
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

The act of walking around topless may not be a sexual act or indecent but it does provoke arousal does it not? And that is what makes it indecent.

Rolling Eyes Yes I saw this cute guy working on his lawn without a top and in short shorts and I was very aroused. I saw a girl whering a heavy winter coat so I could just see her face, it was cute, aroused.

T*ts are not a sex organ, if everything that makes us aroused was treated as such we should all throw on the Burka's
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

That is where the issue lies. Otherwise all topless mags are just periodicals, and men buy them for the stories.

Yes and Pedicure weekly is also bought for the stories by foot fetishest. If people wanna wack off all the power to them.
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

A smart lawyer would argue that, that would could be construed as an "assault" on men.

I see you are not Lawyer, good to know. Topless of etheir sex should be banned or allowed make up your mind and stop worrying bout what people ********** too.
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

Yes, judges can be very stupid. They practice law but dont know how to apply it to real life.

Well at least they got it right in Ontario when it pertains to Womens bodies.



Yes, go on and change eons of traditional belief just becuase it suits you. We now live in an age where "up" is the new "down," "left" is the new "right" and the new morality is nothing more than the old immorality....all in the name of personal rights and politcal correctness.

And if you disagree, then you are Taliban. Talk about going from one extreme to another.Rolling Eyes

Years from now history books will look at this era as the intellectual dark ages where people just made rules up as they went along, in the face of opposing facts contributing to the collapse of society as a whole.

..and yes, I have practiced law that is how I know most anything can be argued with a little twist of logic.

Now please stay on topic.

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:39:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 06/06/2011 08:48:06
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
he new morality is nothing more than the old immorality....all in the name of personal rights and politcal correctness.

And if you disagree, then you are Taliban. Talk about going from one extreme to another.


In the end it's just a matter of perception, how you (or we) look at things; it's a cultural thing and not science.
Look at tribes in the Amazone where women all walk around topless. It's perfectly normal and not considered arousing at all. It's how you look at that that makes it moral or immoral, not the thing itself.

Who knows how people will look at it thousands of years from now?

Even if Amarr will frown upon it that doesn't mean capsuleers will, not even the Amarr ones. RP wise they may make it impossible to dock at Amarr stations with "too much cleavage" (good luck programming), which still doesn't mean Gallente will mind if you walk around naked or even have sex in stations.

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:41:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 06/06/2011 08:41:16
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
traditional belief

Damn women who want to own property and have there bodies subject to the same laws as Men.
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

morality vs personal rights

Freedom everytime.
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

And if you disagree, then you are Taliban. Talk about going from one extreme to another.Rolling Eyes

Cover your mouth it might be considered a place to stick a C*ck
Originally by: Atticus Fynch

Years from now history books will look at this era as the intellectual dark ages where people just made rules up as they went along, in the face of opposing facts contributing to the collapse of society as a whole.

Speculative stick to the facts.
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
..and yes, I have practiced law that is how I know most anything can be argued with a little twist of logic.

Have being passed tense, reason why is obvious.

Takseen
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:41:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Atticus Fynch

Again, a lot of you are missing the point. I dont care if you walk around naked in real life or otherwise. What I'm saying is does this belong in EVE or does it change the view of Eve races too much?
Many of you are making this personal.


I don't think the old eve portraits were all dressed like nuns, if that's what you mean. In fact I remember one in particular that was angled and posed in such a way that you couldn't tell if she was wearing a top at all:)
As for whether visible cleavage "belongs" in Eve, I can't think why not. Certainly the Gallente with their emphasis on personal freedoms and body mods should be all in favour of it. There's nothing to suggest the Minmatar would be particularly bothered by it either. The only ones that *might* have a problem with partial nudity are the Amarrians, being Space Catholics and all.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:49:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 06/06/2011 08:40:55
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
he new morality is nothing more than the old immorality....all in the name of personal rights and politcal correctness.

And if you disagree, then you are Taliban. Talk about going from one extreme to another.


In the end it's just a matter of perception, how you (or we) look at things; it's a cultural thing and not science.
Look at tribes in the Amazone where women all walk around topless. It's perfectly normal and not considered arousing at all. It's how you look at that that makes it moral or immoral, not the thing itself.

Who knows how people will look at it thousands of years from now?

Even if Amarr will frown upon it that doesn't mean capsuleers will.



Your argument is valid as cultures do determine social rules, however that doesnt mean they can be transfered from one culture to another successfully. What makes things "moral" or "immoral" without getting relgion involved, is basically --whatever works for that society.

If a behaviour or belief doesnt work, it eventualy becomes taboo, eventually taking a religious tone.

Hence, all the "taboos" that we have today have been in place because somewhere, sometime in the past it was determined it was not good for society.

Problem is we werent there to see this, so we folow this cycle of experimenting and changing old rules often to our own detriment.

This is basically the reason why societies and empires rise and fall on a regular basis....historically speaking.

ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:54:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Anyway, do you ever go to the beach? Who cares even if people walk around naked? After all it's your thoughts that cause you to be distracted, not the thing(s) itself.



Again, a lot of you are missing the point. I dont care if you walk around naked in real life or otherwise. What I'm saying is does this belong in EVE or does it change the view of Eve races too much?

Many of you are making this personal.
Boobie Haters Untie! YARRRR!!

Apart from the hilarious man-shaming misandrists in this thread, I think your post actually has merit.
I think it very much belongs in EVE.

We supposedly belong to a caste of god-like immortals, unbound from all laws but the ones Concord enforces. That of course should include all kinds of sexual hangups of the different races.

So yeah, boobies belong very much in EVE!
Glorious FF with inbuilt micro-antigrav devices(sure is enough space in there Wink ) to little mousebite ironing boards. The immortals shall have all the boobs that damn well please them.

Alas CCP´s Icelanidc mores have robed us of the truly epic "designs", so we are making due with what the PC feministas allow us to have. Crying or Very sad

BTW, would we have the same discussion about glistening chiseled man pecks and abs on gratuitous display? Foot for thought. Neutral

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:57:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: ivar R'dhak
BTW, would we have the same discussion about glistening chiseled man pecks and abs on gratuitous display? Foot for thought. Neutral

It would be a very different discussion. Laughing

Alpheias
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.06 08:57:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Originally by: Alpheias
I think this speaks more for you (Atticus) than anyone else in this thread, getting turned on by cleavage in a computer game.

But hey, if I can win over you by flashing some space barbie skin, I'd do that.


Like I said...dont take my original comment too literally. My point is that the way character creation is going, immersion is moving more and more away from the original concept of the EVE races. Then again, it may be CCP's intention to re-do the way we view EVE races...I dont know. For now they look more like Earth residents than EVE residents.

No, Im not turned on by computer made cleavage any more than i was by the pleasure hubs..yet CCP removed them due to the game's rating I believe. This may be no different in the long run.


But worthwhile enough to make a ****post about the moral decay and collapse in all players playing space barbie, so we all know just how much it really bothers you.

(and the races in the game are descendents of the human colonists that went through the wormhole prior to its collapse so it would be rather odd if they didn't look human-ish)


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