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Ladrial
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:04:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Ladrial on 05/06/2011 17:06:42
Edited by: Ladrial on 05/06/2011 17:06:11
Edited by: Ladrial on 05/06/2011 17:05:19
I have an out of date PC. I am going to purchase a new one. I want the new pc to be able to run 4+ accounts at the same time, so I can see them all at once and click on any of them with the mouse.

I have been told so many things I should have and need, im now very, very confussed, people have told me i need four monitors, on HD tv, its not possible, I need four graphics cards, I need two crossed all sorts. i7 proccesors, so much im being told i dont understand.

I dont mind paying quite a bit of money for it IF it does what i want it to do!

So what sort of pc would i need proccesor, card, ram etc. And what is the best way to do it four monitors or one?

My local gaming shop have recommended the following:

Power Cool Terminator Case: £40
CIT 850 Watt PSU £40
4GB Corsair 133 Mhz Gaming Ram x4 £36 £124
Graphics Card GTX 480 £180
Mother Board to suit £60
CPU 6 Core 3.2Ghz £150
500GB HD £33.99
DVDRW £15.99
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit £80
£723.98 (plus large hd tv £300/400)

They said get a HD TV large screen and run the game four times windowed on it.

Archbeholder
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:06:00 - [2]
 

there are new amd cpus coming out at the end of the month, i'd wait for them Very Happy

Grom Starscream
Gallente
Whistle While You Warp
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:16:00 - [3]
 

Your local gaming shop would rip you off.

The first person to reply to this thread is trolling you. AMD is so far behind Intel now that it's just silly. AMD's new processors have zero chance to even match Intel's current offerings, let alone Ivy Bridge and Socket 2011 coming out in the next few months.

The easiest way to do what you want will be to have a quad monitor setup, imo. HD Televisions could be used for what you want to do, but monitors will give you a better experience. It's up to you to decide how to mount them, but you will need two graphics cards (in Crossfire if you go with AMD graphics or in SLI if you go with nVidia). There's no single gpu card that offers 4 display outputs, although a couple of the dual gpu on a single pcb setups do. You would get better performance out of 2 discrete GPU's either way.

Moving on ... one thing this system is going to have a lot of is heat. You want a case that can deal with heat. There are a number of options available, and it really depends on your preferences for size and noise. If size is no issue and you want the quietest solution, I would highly recommend the Coolermaster HAF X case, as the large 230mm fans used are exceptional quiet.

You'll want a Sandy Bridge core i7 if you are buying immediately. If I were going to spend the kind of money you're looking at spending, I would wait for Ivy Bridge later this year, but you really can't go wrong with the current Sandy Bridge. You'll want to get a quality motherboard and go with the Core i7 2600k, which can be easily overclocked to 4.5 Ghz without any problems at all. You'll want to go with a Corsair H70 sealed water cooling unit or a high end air cooler if you do overclock.

No reason not to go with 8GB of ram since you're going to run the game 4x

The GTX480 was a really loud and hot card that was quickly surpassed. Anyone recommending you use the 480 is just trying to steal from you basically. You could probably get by with 2 GTX 460's in SLI, but if you don't mind spending $1000 on graphics, two GTX 580's in SLI will allow you to play with everything turned up and all 4 accounts going at once.

But again ... LOL @ waiting for AMD's bullroarer. What a tool. The age of blind fanboyism has long passed. It used to be that AMD and Intel had similar offerings and it was just a matter of finding your price point and going with whichever had the best value at the price point. Now? Intel has squashed AMD like a bug. It's not even a competition anymore.

Sadayiel
Caldari
Inner Conflict
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:30:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ladrial
Edited by: Ladrial on 05/06/2011 17:06:42
Edited by: Ladrial on 05/06/2011 17:06:11
Edited by: Ladrial on 05/06/2011 17:05:19
I have an out of date PC. I am going to purchase a new one. I want the new pc to be able to run 4+ accounts at the same time, so I can see them all at once and click on any of them with the mouse.

I have been told so many things I should have and need, im now very, very confussed, people have told me i need four monitors, on HD tv, its not possible, I need four graphics cards, I need two crossed all sorts. i7 proccesors, so much im being told i dont understand.

I dont mind paying quite a bit of money for it IF it does what i want it to do!

So what sort of pc would i need proccesor, card, ram etc. And what is the best way to do it four monitors or one?

My local gaming shop have recommended the following:

Power Cool Terminator Case: £40
CIT 850 Watt PSU £40
4GB Corsair 133 Mhz Gaming Ram x4 £36 £124
Graphics Card GTX 480 £180
Mother Board to suit £60
CPU 6 Core 3.2Ghz £150
500GB HD £33.99
DVDRW £15.99
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit £80
£723.98 (plus large hd tv £300/400)

They said get a HD TV large screen and run the game four times windowed on it.



Any new gaming rig with some of the newer graphic cards and Cpu should do it with ease best solution it's 4x window mode (far easier and cheaper than 4x monitors)

Atm i'm running 2x gtx 260 sli with an AMD phenom 9950 and i can pretty much play with ease play 4x accounts as long i don't keep all res on high.
Also you'll probably should be doing either mission running or minning (can be pvp but it's way more risky) so a good gaming rig from 2 years ago should work.

debbie harrio
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:37:00 - [5]
 



Nvidia cards can only run 2 monitors, so you would need 2 of them.

AMD cards run 3, my new system will be running 2 * 6950 (flashed to 6970) with 2gb Vram on each, so 6 monitors.

and get an intel i5 2500k with a z67 board, extremely overclockable, that will give you an extra vid output also (not gaming quality but good for dotlan and ship toasting).

Cys Root
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:38:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Ladrial
They said get a HD TV large screen and run the game four times windowed on it.


This is a crap idea IMO and will equal 4 instances of EVE running in a windowed 800x600 resolution. Try EVE in 800x600 for a taste, now picture all your clients looking like that.

A 4 monitor setup would be lightyears better and as the poster above suggested, crossfire or SLI is the way to go for this. Personally i'de go for a 42 inch HDTV for my main, and 3x 24 inch LED screens above and on either side of it for my alts Cool

Skydell
Caldari
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:39:00 - [7]
 

Get anything i5 or up, set graphics to minimun you will be fine. Ram is the problem, otherwise you could use an older machine. The new machines, i5 and i7s have 6gigs of Ram and up.

If money is tight, go get a couple of Pentium D's. They run for around $150 refurb and with Motherboards that hold 3GB of Ram they will still be able to manage 2 clients each. From what I saw on duality though after Incarna you will want 800 MB per client.

Admiral Stevenson33
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:40:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Grom Starscream
Your local gaming shop would rip you off.

The first person to reply to this thread is trolling you. AMD is so far behind Intel now that it's just silly. AMD's new processors have zero chance to even match Intel's current offerings, let alone Ivy Bridge and Socket 2011 coming out in the next few months.

The easiest way to do what you want will be to have a quad monitor setup, imo. HD Televisions could be used for what you want to do, but monitors will give you a better experience. It's up to you to decide how to mount them, but you will need two graphics cards (in Crossfire if you go with AMD graphics or in SLI if you go with nVidia). There's no single gpu card that offers 4 display outputs, although a couple of the dual gpu on a single pcb setups do. You would get better performance out of 2 discrete GPU's either way.

Moving on ... one thing this system is going to have a lot of is heat. You want a case that can deal with heat. There are a number of options available, and it really depends on your preferences for size and noise. If size is no issue and you want the quietest solution, I would highly recommend the Coolermaster HAF X case, as the large 230mm fans used are exceptional quiet.

You'll want a Sandy Bridge core i7 if you are buying immediately. If I were going to spend the kind of money you're looking at spending, I would wait for Ivy Bridge later this year, but you really can't go wrong with the current Sandy Bridge. You'll want to get a quality motherboard and go with the Core i7 2600k, which can be easily overclocked to 4.5 Ghz without any problems at all. You'll want to go with a Corsair H70 sealed water cooling unit or a high end air cooler if you do overclock.

No reason not to go with 8GB of ram since you're going to run the game 4x

The GTX480 was a really loud and hot card that was quickly surpassed. Anyone recommending you use the 480 is just trying to steal from you basically. You could probably get by with 2 GTX 460's in SLI, but if you don't mind spending $1000 on graphics, two GTX 580's in SLI will allow you to play with everything turned up and all 4 accounts going at once.

But again ... LOL @ waiting for AMD's bullroarer. What a tool. The age of blind fanboyism has long passed. It used to be that AMD and Intel had similar offerings and it was just a matter of finding your price point and going with whichever had the best value at the price point. Now? Intel has squashed AMD like a bug. It's not even a competition anymore.


This pretty much.

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:42:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Xindi Kraid on 05/06/2011 17:47:36
Originally by: Grom Starscream
There's no single gpu card that offers 4 display outputs
WRONG.
Radeon HD 5000 and 6000 series cards support up to 6 monitors. HD 5770s generally come with 2 DVI and 2 display port ports, enough to run 4 monitors. As for the wanting 2 GPUs, that's also false. The high end cards by both Nvidia and AMD(Ati) usually beat a pair of lower priced cards both in performance and cost. No point in doing a crossfire or Sli unless you already have top of the line cards. As an added bonus, running in Crossfire and SlI precludes the use of the ports on the second card. You can't use any ports on th additional AMD cards and Nvidia Surround is a 3 monitor setup, so you have wasted everything beyond the first port on the second card in an Sli setup.

Using a large HDTV could work as well, but you will have to run each client windowed, and I would personally recommend just getting multiple smaller monitors.

As for buying a Sandy Bridge i7, while it is the most powerful Intel chip at the moment (for the desktop market at least), it's not a necessity at all. For running EvE an i5 is just fine. You can also get buy with a quad core CPU, but if you are willing to spend a little extra on a 6 core processor then go for it. You are probably going to want 6-8GB of RAM if you are going to be running multiple clients along with other programs.

TravisWB
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:46:00 - [10]
 

I can run 3 clients at the same time on the same screen in windowed mode on a 8 year old pc.

You just need a decent multicore processor, a gob of memory and a powerful video card, prefereably two video cards.

And a large monitor or hd tv, 37".

Eve is not really a gamers pc type of game but it does put a strain on memory and video memory, so you need as much of that as you can afford.

A good sized solid state drive would also be nice.

To run 4 accounts you really should consider 2 screens, as large as you can afford.

Painpill
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:57:00 - [11]
 

Alot of ppl here are correct in their assements, but there is an easy way to run them, but it does tend to get a little small, and it is run 1 GPU high end ofc 400 series or whatever Radeon is running, dump 2 24" monitors on your desk flip them 90 degrees most monitor support this, manual size your clients to fill top and bottom equaly on both screens, allthough its not advised in pvp as you cant see **** Laughing

Ladrial
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:59:00 - [12]
 

Thankyou all for your replies. These do confuse me again though so many different opinions. But I understand more keep suggestions coming!

Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.05 18:02:00 - [13]
 

Personally I wouldn't run 4 accs "all visible at the same time" on anything less than 4 monitors - unless Im getting something wrong you'd have to have smaller windowed EVEs splattered across your screens, which would be rather impractical. And unpretty. YARRRR!!

mia mia
Caldari
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.05 18:11:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Ladrial
Power Cool Terminator Case: £40
CIT 850 Watt PSU £40
4GB Corsair 133 Mhz Gaming Ram x4 £36 £124
Graphics Card GTX 480 £180
Mother Board to suit £60
CPU 6 Core 3.2Ghz £150
500GB HD £33.99
DVDRW £15.99
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit £80
£723.98 (plus large hd tv £300/400)


You will easily be able to run 4+ accounts with that rig. It crushes mine, and I don't have any issues. The number of monitors really depends on your screen real estate. 2x 24" monitors will be more than enough unless you want to run some insane full screen action on 4x monitors. If that's the case, you'll need to get creative

Simetraz
Posted - 2011.06.05 18:28:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Simetraz on 05/06/2011 18:39:45
Do your research and keep an open mind.
A top end computer can break the bank, but you don't need it.
Decide on how much you are willing to spend and see how much you can get for that.
IT has been awhile sense I have let any company build a computer cause you will compromise and pay more then need be.
Not saying there aren't any good ones out there, I just stopped bothering to look.

AMD and INTEL battle will always be going on.
Run the numbers with both of them.
Only put INTEL / NVIDIA together and AMD / ATI together.
People will scream at me for that but just trust me you will be a lot happier in the long run.

SO far all the people I know who are running 4 plus accounts on one computer use ASUS or GIGABIT motherboards.
8 gig min ram 16 preferred.
quad core or better.

Obvious thing but you will have to run a 64 bit OS

I suggest 2 screens.
Personal preference seems to be the rule here, mine are 2048 by 1152 24 inch.

Watch the power requirements of the video cards and the CPU.
Check how well the Video Cards handle heat.
Don't overclock or should I say if you are not comfortable enough to build your own computer then don't let someone else overclock it.
Don't get cheap on the CPU heat sink.

Use one video card for each monitor and use SLI or Crossfire as appropriate.
The means getting the right motherboard to support them.

Research Research Research is the name of the game.
If you do it correctly you will love your computer.
IF you do it wrong you will hate it.







Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.06.05 18:39:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Grom Starscream
AMD is so far behind Intel now that it's just silly.

completely irrelevant - CPU is usually not the bottleneck when running EVE.

I'd suggest to decide between Intel/AMD based on the sockets and buy a mid-range CPU for the socket you expect to be supported the longest.

Buy a decent motherboard.

Creepy Goat
Collateral.
Posted - 2011.06.05 19:00:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Creepy Goat on 05/06/2011 19:04:11

MSI P67A-GD53 B3 and the Intel Sandybridge i5-2500k. Scales exceptionally well and can easily reach 4.5-4.9Ghz with that motherboard. Best price/performance (heck it outclasses the 1156 i7s that cost twice-three times as much) and I highly doubt you'd need to upgrade for another 2 years. At most you'd just switch up to the i7-2600k if you really needed to.

e: RE your GPU, I run 2x 6870s and they scale exceptionally well. I mean the second card runs about 75-80% performance increase. Even running 4 clients at max settings i doubt your fps would drop lower than 40-50.

Jeune
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.05 19:05:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Jeune on 05/06/2011 19:12:01
My last rig could run 4 accounts in window fine while watching blu-ray on another monitor fullscreen. The specs included:

Asus P5Q-E
Intel Q9550 @ 3.6 GHz
8GB Ram
Radeon 5870 1GB
Auzentech X-Fi Forte
Windows 7 Pro
2x 24" 1080p LCD's

The current rig (i7-2600k @ 4.9GHz w/HT, 16 GB RAM) can handle more, but if you build a rig that has similar performance to C2Q or better.... you should be fine.

I'd plan for at least 1GB or ram per client loaded. Currently they don't use that much, but a little wiggle room is nice. I'd start with 6GB minimum for 4 clients, that way Windows and background tasks also have room to play, but 4GB may serve you.

With 4 accounts I'd recommend a quad core processor. Hyper-threading has proven useful if I'm doing other stuff with clients running (like watching a Blu-Ray, etc.) but it's not really necessary.

So far the 5870 has been OK for multiple clients plus other stuff like movies. The only time I've run into issues is if I use both monitors for EVE which allows for large window sizes. Also running another game full-screen (like Battlefield: Bad Company 2 @ max settings) is... sub-optimal. I tried that as a test and it screws the experience for both games.... duh.

If you play with sound on a dedicated sound card may help a little. It offloads only few percent off the CPU, but the bigger advantage is that a dedicated sound card can handle more channels (not to be confused with speaker channels) than integrated solutions. My personal experience with Eve is that using a dedicated card for sound allows more clients to run simultaneously without running into issues.

Good luck in your build.

~ Jeune

Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.05 19:17:00 - [19]
 

Figured I'd have a look at the possibility of 2 windows split left and right on Win7. It works, but you end up with 2 1024x1001 windows that overlap in the center. Kind of annoying.. 960 wide is half of course. My Monitor is a 1920x1080.

Short of buying a 27" Dell 2560xwhatever for $999 I'd say it's impractical to split 2 clients on one Monitor, which leaves one monitor per client as your best option, or one Full Window on a primary and Secondary, and split screen on a third. Personally that's too much real estate for me, with a whole lot of seperated details.

I've cycled windows to run more than one account before, just stacked and edges showing slightly smaller than my screen Res. That was okay for what I was doing, (joint mining Op in the early days), but wouldn't work for PvP at all.

The split screen would, but it's way too much data and overlapping makes it so the overview isn't visible on left, when the right is active. EVE's awesome window clutter also becomes massively pronounced, which is what makes it really bad.

Back to your PC.. That's really pricy for what you're getting. I'd say they're charging some nice premiums. Hexacore AMD is not worth buying; go with Intel. As previously mentioned in this thread, AMD is so far behind they're lapping at Intels coat-tails for attention. Fact is AMD relies on Intel for core architecture licencing, and Intel only gives them access to limited architecture while forcing them to be creative to avoid patent violations. AMD will never be better.

Good parts of your PC:

Windows 7 - Go with Pro for the little extra. I like Green, but something about Home versions is distasteful. I don't think they really release all that is actually missing.

Actually, that's it. I'd change the rest. 480 is overpriced last Gen, I'm sure you meant 1333 RAM, your chassis is completely unknown, motherboard to suit does not qualify, 500GB HDD means it's either Samsung, Seagate, or Hitachi, DVDRW is rather vague, CIT PSU is also unknown, HDTV is rather silly.

Try another PC shop, and make sure you know what you want before you go in there, or better yet, build it yourself. PC stores are notorious for taking advantage of the ignorant. They rank right up their with Trading Card stores and Pawn shops.

I'll get back to you on this, but you might want to check out these:

http://www.evga.com
http://www.falcon-nw.com/
http://www.ncix.com
http://www.newegg.com
http://www.petrastechshop.com/

Just to give you an idea of what's good, where to get it, and whatnot. The first link there is a good forum with lots of helpful advice when you need it.

T'Laar Bok
Posted - 2011.06.05 19:34:00 - [20]
 

Just a FYI

Eve on lowest setting can run on those cheap USB -> HDMI adapters without a problem. They're handy if your graphics card dies while you're waiting for a new one to arrive.


ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.05 19:40:00 - [21]
 

What you need is to WAIT!

All the common wisdom running EVE is going to either fly out of the window with Incarna or stay about the same if CCP makes CQ optional.

Wait till end of month then we“ll see how this thread should be continued.

Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.05 19:43:00 - [22]
 

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-091-LG Three of these would be nice at that price Smile

Chronos Chi
Posted - 2011.06.05 20:02:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Chronos Chi on 05/06/2011 20:10:49
I buy all my stuff from overclockers.co.uk but I'm UK based they have excellent daily deals so sign up for their newsletter. If your not UK based then I'm sure there is a substitute company in your country but personally I would go for:

Graphics:
2 x EVGA GTX480

MoBO:
1 x EVGA P67 FTW w/ EVGauge and ECP V4

CPU:
1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor

RAM:
2 x G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit

OS SSD (Boot drive and EvE):
1 x OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" SATA-3 Solid State Hard Drive

Backup / Storage HDD:
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache

Monitor:
4 x Asus VH242H 24" Widescreen LCD Multimedia Monitor

or for an extra £20 each you can get the LED version

4 x Asus VE247H 24" Widescreen LED Multimedia Monitor

If money is no object I would seriously consider upgrading those graphics cards to the following:

2 x EVGA GeForce GTX 580 3072MB

Those cards are total overkill for EvE but if you enjoy playing the latest games with out any issues then those are the ones for you especially as you will be playing across 4 monitors.

Again if money is no object I would seriously consider getting 120Hz 3D LCD monitors as those cards are 3D enabled and it wont be long before EvE heads in that direction seeing how CCP and nVidia are partners now.

And finally....

PSU:
1 x Zalman ZM1000-HP Plus Heatpipe Cooled 1000W Modular Power Supply

Everyone will think your mad spending £160+ on a PSU but if you buy a cheap S****Y one it wont be the that the goes pop it will be the £1000+ kit that is connected to it that does. What would you rather replace an expensive PSU or your entire rig Question
People are gonna shout at me for spec'ing you this setup but if you enjoy gaming, as there are other things to play apart from EvE, then you really want to future proof well for at least 6 months Laughing

Hope this helps.

Look me up in game if you need any other advice.


Chronos

p.s. I dont work for EVGA but there RMA and customer service is second to none, I recently RMA'd a 4 year old graphics card and they sent me a brand new Geforce GTX580 for my troubles.

EDIT:

Forgot to mention you're gonna need a big case as 480's and 580's are long cards

Aircooled or liquid cooled:

1 x Cooler Master HAF X Gaming Tower Case

or

1 x Silverstone RV02 Raven 2 Case

:)

shults
Minmatar
Shults Corporation of miners.
Posted - 2011.06.05 20:15:00 - [24]
 

Well i can comfortably run 6 accounts on one pc one monitor and all on max graphics no lag so it depends rearly what your pc is like then again i used same setup when i was on a old nvidia 8800 gts 512 and on windows xp and the same full graphics no lag so it depends if your pc literate and know how to squeeze everything out of your setup.

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2011.06.05 20:16:00 - [25]
 

Now that you can re-size your clients to any size you could easily get away with 2 monitors. Grab two 24 or 25 inch wide screens and fit 2 windowed clients on each.

It just depends how important your in game viewing area is but by using lower resolution then resizing you can easily fit them on 2 monitors.

Hastrin
Posted - 2011.06.05 20:21:00 - [26]
 

its kinda working backwards this. say how much youre willing to spend on a pc and then try to get as much power in there as you can. as for what you need:

anything mainstream will do. so any gpu around the 150-200$ mark, any sandy bridge cpu, 4gb of ram, decent psu. eve is easy enough to run

as for screens. i work with 2 24" screens. this is something any modern gpu will be able to run. more screens is nice but will cost a lot of money

oh, and 850 watts is way overkill. even with a gtx480 that sucks power like a small country

Mr M
Posted - 2011.06.05 20:32:00 - [27]
 

I would try with two vertical 1920x1080 monitors (so you have a 2160x1920 work space). Run Eve windowed 2x2.

Leianna
Carebear Mafia
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.06.05 20:35:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Grom Starscream
Your local gaming shop would rip you off.

The first person to reply to this thread is trolling you. AMD is so far behind Intel now that it's just silly. AMD's new processors have zero chance to even match Intel's current offerings, let alone Ivy Bridge and Socket 2011 coming out in the next few months.

The easiest way to do what you want will be to have a quad monitor setup, imo. HD Televisions could be used for what you want to do, but monitors will give you a better experience. It's up to you to decide how to mount them, but you will need two graphics cards (in Crossfire if you go with AMD graphics or in SLI if you go with nVidia). There's no single gpu card that offers 4 display outputs, although a couple of the dual gpu on a single pcb setups do. You would get better performance out of 2 discrete GPU's either way.

Moving on ... one thing this system is going to have a lot of is heat. You want a case that can deal with heat. There are a number of options available, and it really depends on your preferences for size and noise. If size is no issue and you want the quietest solution, I would highly recommend the Coolermaster HAF X case, as the large 230mm fans used are exceptional quiet.

You'll want a Sandy Bridge core i7 if you are buying immediately. If I were going to spend the kind of money you're looking at spending, I would wait for Ivy Bridge later this year, but you really can't go wrong with the current Sandy Bridge. You'll want to get a quality motherboard and go with the Core i7 2600k, which can be easily overclocked to 4.5 Ghz without any problems at all. You'll want to go with a Corsair H70 sealed water cooling unit or a high end air cooler if you do overclock.

No reason not to go with 8GB of ram since you're going to run the game 4x

The GTX480 was a really loud and hot card that was quickly surpassed. Anyone recommending you use the 480 is just trying to steal from you basically. You could probably get by with 2 GTX 460's in SLI, but if you don't mind spending $1000 on graphics, two GTX 580's in SLI will allow you to play with everything turned up and all 4 accounts going at once.

But again ... LOL @ waiting for AMD's bullroarer. What a tool. The age of blind fanboyism has long passed. It used to be that AMD and Intel had similar offerings and it was just a matter of finding your price point and going with whichever had the best value at the price point. Now? Intel has squashed AMD like a bug. It's not even a competition anymore.


I agree with a couple points here. The i7 2600 or 2600K if you want to OC, are a decent price to performance. A solid motherboard is a must. Ideally, go with the best motherboard and CPU you can afford, if you have trouble putting together funds for the full 'dream build', at least your CPU and board will be up there, and you can fit the other remaining pieces in as time goes on (more RAM, better HDD's / SSD's, higher vid card(s) etc..)

However, Grom, time will tell. Current info is that the bulldozer flagship CPU will match the i7 2600, but at a better pricepoint. Time will tell though, and so far, AMD has always seemed to make the lesser high end chip. Still, when dealing with the performance levels these CPUs run at, AMD performs just as well during gameplay as intel, but for a far better price.
Also, whoever gave you your info on no single GPU card being 4 screen capable is incorrect. There are plenty of cards avalable that can run 3 or more, single card, single GPU. Heck, theres even a 6-screen version HD5870 2GB GDDR5 vid card available for half the cost you are quoting above.

One last point for the OP: Grom mentions gaming shops ripping you off, but if you have a local PC shop that offers custom builds (in the off chance you are local to me, send me a message ingame and let me know where you are from, I may be able to help you out) they can most likely help you with the finer details of designing a machine, building it for you, etc..

Captain Megadeath
Posted - 2011.06.05 20:48:00 - [29]
 

E8400 @ 4Ghz (H2o)
MSI 570GTX
1 Dell 27" monitor

6 accounts @ 1680x1050 @ high shaders/textures/LoD/HDR/shadows

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Troezar
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.05 20:54:00 - [30]
 

Chronos Chi is on the right lines but I would recommend an i5 2500k(you don't need the hyperthreading of an i7) an MSI GD65 motherboard, crossfire 6870 graphics or maybe a 6970 if you wanted a single card. RAM go for 1600MHz XMS3 2 x 4GB is only £65 atm. A decent 850W PSU like Antec or Corsair.

Join the OCUK forums for some advice, they are a good choice to buy from too www.overclockers.co.uk not always the cheapest but decent advice/customer support.

Do not buy from a local shop, that spec they gave you is poor and overpriced for what it is.

As also suggested research the demands of the incoming changes to EVE you may want to up the spec to 2 x 6950 gpu's ;)


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