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Ikserak tai
Posted - 2011.06.02 01:40:00 - [91]
 

The Russians are using the principle of war called "mass". They used it to great effect in WWII by massing artillery and armor in unheard of concentrations to defeat the German armies.

Now their ancestors are using the same tactic, and it is apparently working like a charm. If opposing alliances can't match up, they deserve to be tossed into the dustbin of Eve history.

If New Eden indeed comes under the thumb of an autocratic mega-alliance fueled by RMT shenanigans, then so be it. If the devs do not have the cajones to end this nonsense, then it's their effing game and let the cards fall where they may.

Nimbat
Posted - 2011.06.02 01:48:00 - [92]
 

hello i am longtiem palyer looking for russian alliance join, i good skills many kills highsec please send mail so i can join the fun thank you

(Actually, that would be pretty cool.)

Ham Shanker
Posted - 2011.06.02 02:09:00 - [93]
 

Thing is here, you have to look at the wider socio economic situation in Eastern Europe.

Apart from a few wealthy entrepreneurs, the major populace still live in 3rd world style abject poverty.

Most nations have come to realise that one of the best tools in the modern world that will help to improve their economic situation is? yup, the internet.

So whilst a lot of these country's, from Eastern Europe to Africa are investing heavily in telecom's\internet infrastructure, there is little else in the way of investment that'll greatly improve the opportunities, lifestyles and personal wealth of the average Joe.

For instance. I've been skiing a couple of times to Bulgaria. And I kid you not, this country has little to no infrastructure. Very few roads, very poor water and electricity grids etc etc... But! you've guessed it. They all have computers and internet connections. Just about everywhere you go there is someone on a computer farming WOW gold, or ISK. I recall going into a shop once for cigarettes, and in place of a cash register is an old computer, and the girl is farming WOW gold when she's not serving customers.

So it comes as no surprise and is no coincidence when over the past five years especially. The Russians and the old Eastern bloc start making inroads into EVE. As It's providing a nice little income for the majority of them. And why is this? well, my previous point! Their government's are investing heavily in telecom s, but little else.

So, no prospects, no jobs but they've all got fast broadband connections. Or the café's they play in have...lol

Has anyone pondered why the active player count suddenly spiked three or four years back?

Anyway. I'm pretty sure CCP are more than aware of this and are faced with a dilemma. If they went Jihad on it and banned all the botters, macro's and RMTers overnight. I think we'd be looking at active player counts online at any time circa 2005/6. I mean I remember a busy Sunday was like 15, 16,000 players online when I started. A year or two later and it's more than double.

I also think CCP are being very conservative and coy when they release regional figures for active subscribers. I honestly think the balance has swayed more towards Eastern Europe than Western. But as you can imagine, CCP would never publicly admit this as would only serve to drive away yet more casual players.

This current environment cannot last forever, especially as it's only getting worse and will eventually drive EVE into the ground.

I'm afraid the only obvious solution that presents itself currently. Is to ban Eastern European IP's and give them their own server.

Uber Gott
Posted - 2011.06.02 02:50:00 - [94]
 

why dont all the remaining non russian forces band together and pull a last alliance on their asses

5n4keyes
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2011.06.02 02:53:00 - [95]
 

Edited by: 5n4keyes on 02/06/2011 02:53:11
Confirming that Russians dont have UK or US players within there alliances.

O Wai...

Bane Necran
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:09:00 - [96]
 

As long as they're professional Russians i'm ok with them.

Corina's Bodyguard
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:17:00 - [97]
 

I think I know CCP's plan.

1)Let the Russians take over all of null.
2)Ban all the Russians for botting/RMT.
3)Null is open for the taking just like when sov was first introduced.


Seriously though, this war in null has almost zero effect on the rest of the game. If things get bad enough, players will find a way to change what they think is the problem.

PS: I do not believe all Russian players use bots. That would be a moronic assumption.

Naradius
DEATHFUNK
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:23:00 - [98]
 

Edited by: Naradius on 02/06/2011 03:26:41
About time the NC crumbled...if ever there was a case of backdoor probing going on to retain space, the NC alliances opened their backdoors to each other with gay abandon.
I had my fair share of battles with the Russians...a scary bunch - they could always pull numbers, but seemingly without the gayness of the NC.
If I was them, I would want to move away from the Dronelands as well.

P.S. Also hilarious spotting NC cry babies on this thread Very Happy

Stupid McStupidson
Gallente
Hoek Lyne and Sinker
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:26:00 - [99]
 

Look, Boris! Is Moose and Squirrel!

Soma Khan
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:30:00 - [100]
 

delicious nc tears itt. guess losing all that rmt income hurts

Ten Bulls
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:31:00 - [101]
 

One day all the slaves (renters) will stop paying rent.

Then what use is all that space, why defend space they cant use ?

DRF will die the death of a thousand cuts.

Asuka Smith
Gallente
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:34:00 - [102]
 

I dunno if anyone has been to Geminate or Great Wildlands lately, but it's basically a lone macro raven in EVERY system all day every day, and I bet they aren't being run by americans, or icelanders, or even chinese people.

They are being run by russians.

Thelitos
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:53:00 - [103]
 

Ha.
I should join the Russians, being one of them myself but playing with Westerners.
Didn't know we were so powerful over there in null-sec... hehe.

Black Omne
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
Sev3rance
Posted - 2011.06.02 04:02:00 - [104]
 

easy solution, just like China, give the Russians their own server. problem solved.

Fore Khaos
Posted - 2011.06.02 04:04:00 - [105]
 

Funny, I thought the whole point of EVE was to get absurdly rich and powerful to the point where no one could stop you from taking over the whole galaxy.

Oh wait, no that's not it. It's a "sandbox". And the Russians just backed a dumptruck up to itLaughing

Jojo Jackson
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.02 04:57:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: Jojo Jackson on 02/06/2011 05:03:21
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
Yeah NC used to be unstoppable.

Everything changes.

Russian alliances are now unstoppable.

Everything changes.


I hope this will happen:
- PL, Ex-BoB and all the other Mercs the Rusians hired to invade the north did it for the money AND becouse they hate the NC (for whatever reason)
- after the NC is no more the job is done and the contracts between the Rusians and all the Mercs is fullfit
- the Mercs get borred when they have no targets anymore
- Ex-NC is borred too without 0.0 too
- the both, the Mercs and Ex-NC start to search new targets and see this big red east with lots of easy targets ;)

They don't do it to invade this regions, just to get some fun and fights.

To say it clearly. The Rusians ALONE don't have the expirience and manpower to defend this super big block (east+north). I bet just PL alone might be able to destroy the Red Block (not with manpower but combat expirence) if they chose to.

Why I would love to this this happen?
The reds don't speek english and if they do, they refuse to. That's the only reason ;).

PS: I'm in no 00 aliance with any char. I just love T2 ships and don't want to see the Rusian control the resuce market for to long.

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.06.02 08:39:00 - [107]
 

I dont care who owns 0.0, I do care about language, I cant stand monkeys speaking Klingon in local. There should be a server side detection procedure - as soon as someone speaks russian in local he is moved to the Chinese server.

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2011.06.02 08:47:00 - [108]
 

No worries, once PL burns the north, CCP will patch/ nerf to insure none of the North use the same tactics to get it back.

Been working that way since as long as I have been playing.

Azztoroid
Shipwreck cove
Posted - 2011.06.02 08:48:00 - [109]
 

What i read is something like this.....Russians are bad, botts are Russian, eve are Russian, Iceland is Russian and soon the world will be Russian.....

Im pretty sure that by stacking them against us will show that "the unrussian world have more botts per accounts than the Russians have.....

Tom Sasaki
Posted - 2011.06.02 09:48:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: Tom Sasaki on 02/06/2011 09:53:04
Originally by: LHA Tarawa
Originally by: Hermann Fegelein
Looks like someone got ganked by a different group of people Rolling Eyes



Northern coalition spent years making mass profits by building supercaps and selling at a huge profit while at the same time blowing up the super cap assembly arraies of everyone else to maintain their monopoly of the market.

Now all those super caps they sold at huge profit margin are being used to come and invade their space.

Word I hear is that on Monday the russions put most of the NC's super cap assembly array stations into reinforced. Tuesday was a massive call to arms to protect them, for without them, there is no chance of rebuilding their super cap fleet to counter the invasion...

Word is, NC mustered 30 super caps to the Russian's 130+.

NC, as it has existed for half-a-decade, ceased to exist yesterday.... or so I hear tell.

Now it is a scramble to make nice with the new Russian masters of EVE.
So NCdot, Ev0ke, Pandemic Legion, Merciless, & Raiden are suddenly russian?

During those fights there were approx 40 russian pilots all of them in subcapitals, the rest of the force fighting the NC were a mix of mostly western european & american players(and ofc some lovely aussies).

Edit: Forgot Ev0ke

Digital Messiah
Gallente
N7 Corporation
PandaMonium.
Posted - 2011.06.02 10:09:00 - [111]
 

Thread was TL;DR, I vote for black Reagan. Who will fly into nc and russian controlled space in a jovian super cap owning all and instantly setting up pos's. This is of course to stop the communist ways of RMT which was started under fair work fair isk, and share the isk programs. aka the... common botter Neutral.

Now you maybe asking yourself what will come next?! Titan doomsday devices in highsec! Well fear not, cast your vote today for BLACK REAGAN!

Rico Minali
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.02 10:17:00 - [112]
 

Hmmm, Eve, interwebz spaceships and intrigue.... Think Ill do some fighting.

Vaju Katru
Posted - 2011.06.02 10:23:00 - [113]
 

OMG US carebear players suck balls, and want CCP help to avoid failure, more news at 11.

Azhpol
Gallente
Casa Del Wombat
Posted - 2011.06.02 10:28:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Altina Akiga
Enough is enough, I've had it with these mother****ing **************** on this mother****ing server.

Embarassed
Wow, I don't think I know any swearwords that long.... wtf did you say there Shocked

Vaju Katru
Posted - 2011.06.02 10:35:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Ham Shanker


(...)
I'm afraid the only obvious solution that presents itself currently. Is to ban Eastern European IP's and give them their own server.



I can't win, OMG ban them all, help me CCP!

Pathetic.

Neamus
Posted - 2011.06.02 10:51:00 - [116]
 

Lol, look at all this crap.

High sec just gets better and better all the time.

Ozmodan
Minmatar
Massively Mob
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:04:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Hermann Fegelein
Edited by: Hermann Fegelein on 01/06/2011 17:26:07
Looks like someone got ganked by a different group of people Rolling Eyes

I'm shocked at the amount of people who are *****ing because an ethnic minority is starting to grow larger.

Most Russians who play EVE don't RMT. In fact most RMT people reside in the US and UK.

The reason why Russian players are becoming the most powerful in EVE is because they spend more time playing the game than whining about it.



Zoom way to completely miss the point of the thread. Nice to be blissfully ignorant of things.

It does not matter what ethic group the alliance is comprised of, the problem is they exist because of massive botting which last time I looked is illegal according to game rules. Let's be specific here, they don't play they bot!

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:04:00 - [118]
 

I was there (LV) when the russians were pushed back to 1 station in cache, they used game mechanics in their favor and pushed us all back!

Considering, according to official CCP statistics, russians make up only 5-10% of the player base, it only proves one thing, that russians rock while the rest of u sux! While all those US/EU players either carebear their heart out in empire (cause their folks are too elitist to recruit them) or too busy backstabbing each other over crumbles, the russians are reaping the benefits of cooperation in a game that rewards group efford over all else.

I'm not russian or pro-russian or anything (although they have the best vodka and women imo), but lets say ur an isolated group and succeed against odds, would you want to get nerfed or artificially stopped just because the enemy cant get their act together and form up a strong enough opposition. Besides stop panicing, there aint enough russian players to populate all those regions anyway..

Just my 2 cents on this matter...




Tom Sasaki
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:10:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Kunming
I was there (LV) when the russians were pushed back to 1 station in cache, they used game mechanics in their favor and pushed us all back!

Considering, according to official CCP statistics, russians make up only 5-10% of the player base, it only proves one thing, that russians rock while the rest of u sux! While all those US/EU players either carebear their heart out in empire (cause their folks are too elitist to recruit them) or too busy backstabbing each other over crumbles, the russians are reaping the benefits of cooperation in a game that rewards group efford over all else.

I'm not russian or pro-russian or anything (although they have the best vodka and women imo), but lets say ur an isolated group and succeed against odds, would you want to get nerfed or artificially stopped just because the enemy cant get their act together and form up a strong enough opposition. Besides stop panicing, there aint enough russian players to populate all those regions anyway..

Just my 2 cents on this matter...
Or the russians have the brains to actually temporary ally with the enemies of their enemy.

If you go through evekill for the last month you will notice the majority of the pilots that has been killing NC the last month belong to "western" alliances.

Shirley Temple
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:13:00 - [120]
 

There seems to be a simple flaw in your argument. You seem to be getting RMT'ing and Macro/botting all mixed up. Surely (Don't call me Shirley) if the "Russians" were RMT'ing then they wouldn't have all the ISK to buy up the universes supply of super caps?

The good news is that if Super Caps are the flavor of the month at the moment then you can rest assured that CCP will wield the nerf hammer at some point.

As an ex-NC grunt, there were several reasons the NC got into trouble. These range from the fact it got too fat with members only interested in making ISK, The BFF's started ignoring requests for help from each other, and players weren't motivated.

All the big power blocks have suffered from this at some point or other, The NC just got hit by a tsunami of bad luck all at the sametime.

Eve is a harsh mistress, and like a typical woman changes her mind at a whim. Change is inevitable!

Todays DRF will be tomorrows ASCN, well maybe not tomorrow, but I have it on good authority that the war will be over by Christmas Very Happy


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